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and oh my gosh BRATT...
...dont get me started on Calstates! What a mess! Okerlund is, yes, one of the reasons we are most likely in this mess today...
You don't want to know the PPS when I first bought in...I was lucky to have been in the right place a while later and got a nice chunk down in the trip 0's...so that makes up for a little of the sting...
The shame is that I do believe IMO that we should be someplace around 0.75¢ PPS. Yeah, you read that correctly....we need dedicated corporate communications from TSB, we need things that were going to be completed months ago to be wrapped up. At this point, if all the PR is truthful, and the Florida case has no bearing on operations....we are incredibly undervalued and sitting here for no good reason?
I mean what seems to be the hold up? Right? Ticker change was to be months ago! Now filings are messed up again...I mean??? Whhhatt??
No it is not!
This is Top Shelf Brands, LLC - liquor importing and wholesale/retail. Top Shelf is not involved in marijuana products, infusions, or drinks in any way shape or form.
Well I do hope that is the case. I am for us winning, but I want that to be a transparent reality, with both sides of whatever is happening to be open and honest. Let's just answer the questions! I'm not saying anything convoluted is going on at all...but I'm also saying things are not being expedited in the order they said they would, some large mistakes have been made, and there is an awful lot of misinformation, non-information, and lack of information. Enough to raise some red flags!
Worth pointing out —
this list is old and a lot of these items need to be revisited... and a lot of the commentary on there is opinion based...
...and 2 out of 7 isn't rousing the most confidence in me either:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/research/service-provider/Sonfield-&-Sonfield-Attorneys-at-Law?id=1791&b=n&filterOn=3
Then there is this:
http://www.law360.com/articles/412712/houston-atty-sued-over-role-in-60m-reverse-merger
"Digerati says Sonfield also forged a stock certificate for 1,000 Series A preferred shares and issued them to Phillip W. Johnston, an alias used by Sonfield “to receive extra compensation in stock transactions he arranges.”
Actually it can...
TEMN 5MM from Rivernorth LLC?
http://www.rivernorth.com/news/ Where is the news?
http://rivernorthequity.com/ Or is it these people? They have not heard of TEMN (_or were unwilling to discuss the validity of) or had not when I contacted them after this came out:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/top-shelf-brands-holdings-corp-secures-5-million-from-river-north-equity-llc-2014-04-09
Next we have the mystery websites:
http://drinktopshelf.com/ is the main one that has yet to be finished...months ago it was claimed that it would be.
Then someone came across another website with a countdown on it that supposedly has nothing to do with us but it does? I can't seem to find it, but it's out there....you tube video of 'our first national ad' and all...
Then on 4-/17- we had this:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/top-shelf-brands-holdings-corp-announces-the-upcoming-launch-of-its-new-investor-relations-website-2014-04-17
And that was supposed to come from these people: http://www.equisolve.com/ir-websites
Yet they had no relationship with TEMN when I contacted them, and this site has never materialised.
Even if it was done or something why would they claim ignorance? Why?
Then we had some print ads come out just last week or so:
https://flipflashpages.uniflip.com/3/45230/332698/pub/html5.html
Where it claims TEMN is a NASDAQ company. This is a horrible misrepresentation. Many claimed it was nothing or well they could be technically...NO, you are either listed on the DAQ' or not...there is no halfway...
Then just yesterday we had another 'PR' or story come out that mentioned a "recent raising of 400K in capital" and "with a market cap of 9.19 million."
First off the market cap valuation is different everywhere you look...sheesh....
Then what is with 400K investment that there is no news about? I may have missed it but what?
Next the bottle issue:
So they released this PR:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/top-shelf-brands-holdings-corp-announces-an-agreement-with-abac-glass-co-ltd-of-a-revolutionary-bottle-design-for-the-highly-anticipated-herbal-infused-tequila-2014-04-15
http://www.abacglass.com/ is their website....
...and as best I can tell they also have not been in contact with TEMN? They did not respond to my inquiry in english and their website is outdated as of 2010. IMO, now, IMO I think it looks rather stock image...but who knows...
Finally...I'm not anyone with an agenda. I have no agenda but wealth, and let me tell you I will nit pik about these things. OK, it's only adding up half way... I have no relationship to Klein or Huffman or Pierce, other than having owned TEMN since it was Cal States! Yes, BEFORE HUFF/KLEIN. And yes I got screwed then too... I really just don't want to see other people screwed....again...or for the first time.
Now, I'm not going to go as far as Abe or Sun, but seriously there are lots of questions and or mistakes being made/raised. the TEMN on the Nasdaq thing alone is a huge red flag to me. Mistake or not, it's a pretty big mistake... anyway...I hope we do get very wealthy off of this...
It could be anything, but there seems to be so many 'why' questions lately...again.... PPS is awful considering all the supposedly positive news floating about. To many people brushing off major red flags and faffing about with slogans and such. The DD says this thing is a shaky POS that some parties are trying to tank before it takes off running. Why?
5MM credit facility that no one really knows about, followed by yesterday's news of a 400K seed investment that no one knows anything about? Why?
People say the management is making some poor choices, and major misrepresentations are happening in print items and news articles. Yet sales are happening and inventory is being sold and advisors are being compensated and all we have seen so far is some false advertising and a rendering of a bottle design (a poor one at that, too IMO). Looks hardly 'top shelf.' Well it might in a perfume store, because thats what it is, a stock image of a perfume bottle with Besado photoshopped on it IMO. Why?
Then we have mystery websites. We also have a half finished corporate website. We were supposed to have an investors website like three months ago and that was I guess vapor. Next we the "are we or aren't we" reporting issue with the SEC, and the chill on new deposits and issuance... Why?
But by all means let's sit around and piddle about energy drinks that are not in our gameplan and marijuana stocks that are not even in our business model or sector between now and an obscure court case thats supposed to pan out sometime in August perhaps but just maybe not and could conceivably last for quite a while...yet this case has no bearing on the operations of the company supposedly even though we all know IMO that PPS will do jack squat until then because no one is for sure about anything!
Meanwhile we see lower lows and less and less volume. Why? Either this train is on one track or the other.....right? You can not land with a bad approach!
Reel it in...
There will be no beverage crossovers between Level 5 and TSB. Please only post relevant information and not conjecture. Also everyone loves to overlook the issues and questions. Lower lows... why?
"With projections based on ordering trends, the recent raising of 400K in capital, and several successes at tastings and other events, TEMN has posted revenue projections for the next several years, marked by gross revenue climbing considerably in four short years. Meanwhile, percentage-based product costs are expected to trend downward after year three, following production stabilization, which would create larger profit margins. Per-unit sales projections begin at 25,000 bottles per month with inventory turning over up to 6 times per year, meaning initial investments will be recouped fairly quickly for a budding company."
400K in capital?
Posted revenue projections?
Where is all this then?
Doubt it....LOL
Well thats cute, but please explain the NASDAQ status as claimed in the PUBLISHED advertisement?
I'm not angry, nor am I emotional...I'm honestly excited that so much seems to be going correct here, but time and again...even under Mr. Pierces management, things are not always what they seem. For instance we have a number of half finished websites, some with like branding and some without...some with countdown clocks and some without. We were told about a credit facility of 5MM, and the issuing fund has no mention of it on their website and when you call has never heard of Top Shelf, we now have print advertisements that show TEMN as a NASDAQ ticker.
???????????????????????????????
If we are waiting for a ticker change then why would it show we are on the DAQ' with the ticker TEMN???
Whhhhat??? I mean this is a huge mistake if it is a mistake, or an outright lie? I mean is is not?
Anyway, I am hoping that perhaps what we are waiting for is an up-listing or something to that effect? Or....what do you suppose?
Having been an owner since 2008, I think I can say that I have every right to be skeptical. Time and time again TEMN has been a toy to wrest pocket change out of various unsuspecting people for quite a while.
While I remain positive, it's important to note that, in reality, not very much has happened that can be proven. Things are starting to look better, but there are tons of questions.
Now publishing an advertisement that states you are listed on the DAQ' when you are not and have not released any PR to the effect that that is a goal or an achivement that has already taken place - it's false advertising.
Just be careful! And honestly, I've only seen you on here for the bast 60 days or so...it's great to be excited and optomistic, but it's also a reality that TEMN has been a major shiteshow for a while.
Let's hope we end up in Bel Air with a fleet of Rolls Royces! I'm all for uplisting to the DAQ' but I'm not for false advertising!!
Yeah I saw that too, makes me very nervous. If that has been published, it's an outright lie and makes me even more nervous.
Has anyone even talked to RiverNorth to see if it's legit? There is nothing on their website at all...
Don't worry, you'll be able to pick up more than .004's....
Shes starting to shimmy
Oh, this is the low price.....
....you don't say....
Hopefully, the last jaunt though May really hasn't made much of a pop...
YES, and once again PER NEVADA LAW they will have to be converted at some point....
9 MM RESTRICTED SHARES
"TEMN (OTC.PK) 9,000,000 restricted shares compensation on June 16 2014 for marketing/awareness services ending July 22 2014"
Also, shares are not preferred, they are restricted - 9MM RESTRICTED shares. Shares that are issued in payment of services must later be converted according to Nevada law...
So it's not as if they can dump them tomorrow or something....
All in all this seems like a plus for us, but I would totally be buying in this range....RIGHT NOW....it's not going to stay here long....may come back to here in a month or two, but it's not going to stay here....
Look at the makers...they have crazy 1.10 set...something is starting to play here, and it smells like they may have gotten the ticker going...
It does not seems so, but it's not exactly on the level..
Well first a chill would have to be lifted, yes, but these shares at some point would also have to be converted, so I guess it all depends on how that is approached and when.
Who runs TomorrowsBluechips?
A man by the name of Lou Levenstein.
Does anyone know more about him? Google says he's based out of Boca down in FL, but for the most part it looks as if he just barks about marijuana stocks...yet at any rate hes now a (somewhat) major shareholder.
9MM shares? Good lord!
OI VEH!
WHAT IS UP WITH THIS MESS????
Are we dead in the water here? The crickets are getting louder!
And what do you think will happen here?
Well then what seems to be the hold up?
TEMN now has less market cap than it's supposed 5MM credit line, now down to 4.7MM...
Well yes you have...
If just one of your trends would play out I would be more inclined to be happy about TEMN...lol
.0025 bid....
This thing is DOA!
It should be before or on Friday...or they have to refile I believe?
Here's to a better Wednesday
Show me where TEXX has debt? Show me why TEXX has only gone up the entire time TEMN has only gone down....
Why?
They should, either way it's a warning or a great way to buy cheap shares. All the things that AP could do to make this a sure bet....are not happening.
TICKER CHANGE FIRST, REMOVE CHILLS. Then build your business. What is this oddness with random mystery websites, no info on float, a court case that supposedly does not matter even though it apparently does yet no one knows....WHY IS TEXX price going up if it's going to be merged into TEMN??
We need definitive action of chills and ticker change. It's been WAY overdue, and the tanking PPS (at some point you will be a fool to buy if it keeps falling) is not only indicative of that, it shows that people do not have confidence in 'forward looking statements' from this group.
.0005 within 2 weeks if we see no ticker change, and I'll bet at that time this whole company slides back into TEXX (trading .01) currently...
....just like last time...
I have a feeling we are seeing AP build up debt in TEMN then he will transfer assets to TEXX (clean balance sheet) then tank TEMN (along with us and the debt)...I'm not sure, but this is a scenario we have had happen to us before...
Just be careful! I do not see this doing a 180 or a 360 tomorrow. Not unless we get ticker change...