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where does it say that XXII is having dinner with bonnie herzog?
is that really true? how do you know that? i mean, is this game that manipulated?
glad its just a paper loss at this point, but this is really painful to watch
market valuation is 130 million at these levels
I just keep thinking of the WF report and that returns me to sanity
yeah--i dont get it. What was that large block traded yesterday? I would say maybe there is bad news around the corner, but I just don't believe that. Scratching my head on this price action.
sounds like he sold somebody the right to "put" him the stock at $2.50. So yes, below $2.50 he will be put the stock. So if he got paid say .10 for that his effective cost would be $2.40.
I did something similar last month--I sold the January 2 puts and got paid .50
at the time I was thinking I would never get put the stock, but who knows..if stock is below 2 I will get put stock and my cost will be $1.50 so I'm good with that
oh---the tobacco talk call? yes--we know that..its old news..
you said "wells fargo tobacco conference" BIG difference....anyway...this stock is an enigma...
what day is the wells fargo tobacco conference? and where is it?
thanks
I don't think not being super excited about the bell ringing is "bashing" as you say...I'm starting to sense that people on this board have their entire net worth in this stock, so any questioning whatsoever is met with condemnation..this is an interesting company with tremendous potential..hopefully , as was just posted, there is real revenue coming in the next 12 months that will start to reflect in the stock price...
lol
I know..I mean, it can't hurt, but those on this board seem to think its some big event
what does sound like a big event is that supposedly Bonnie Herzog is taking XXII around that day to meet with institutions....is that true? if so, thats an event..
if I didn't hear that call and read the WF report twice I'd be devastated, but I have to assume a year from now this stock is a double from here.
and forget the bell ringing..we all know this thing will tank on that event lol ;)
It would be nice to see clearly defined revenue estimates put out by a major firm. The WF call was great , but we still dont have actual revenue projections
im full on board with your sentiment on this company, but be fair..you would have said the exact same thing 6 months ago...if I would have told you back in March we would have all these great announcements and the stock would be at $2.50 you would have said thats impossible...
I stopped reading that report after this inane comment:
"At some point though, won't society come to its senses and stop allowing our family members to become addicted to a harmful product?"
you mean like alcohol, fast food, and soda?
seriously we need to stop giving credibility to these random articles
gotcha thanks
thank god I dont do this for a living lol
hmm..you sure? Market capitalization is # of shares outstanding x the stock price. So with XXII --the stock is $2.50 x 60,000,000 shares outstanding gives us a market cap of $150 million
If I read this correctly they think they can generate a billion in revenue from red sun, a billion from asia, a billion from x-22 and a billion from the magic brand....I could be wrong, please clarify
I listened to the call and reread the WF report. The current stock price is valuing XXII to be worth 150 million dollars. The revenue potential is 4 billion. This stock will be an absolute monster in the next 12 months. I almost wish it was private so I wouldn't be tempted to trade it as future spikes are sure to come.
you're reading it wrong
there is no recomendation either way
question about that....Red Sun...they are rolling out to 1000 stores next month....if each store sells 10 packs a day or 300 packs a month at $5 per pack that $18,000 for the year per store...multiply that by 1000 stores and thats 18 million in revenue.....are those numbers right?
okay..so now we are banking on "subliminal messages"???lolol..I'm half joking, but that is funny. regardless, this is a great company and if they deliver we are looking at a great future here...
not gonna lie, I haven't seen the report, but if no buy recommendation thats really really disappointing
I don't get it, how can she not say "buy" after being on that call?
wow-thats pretty big news...
so i don't have to deal with the hell of being rerouted on their 800# does anybody have a direct line?
thanks
Please clarify
Did Wells Fargo issue a report?
Or you're just referring to some synopsis some guy put out in a newsletter?
BIG difference
Her answer was the same templated answer she responds with to many questions about individual stocks. Strictly legal protocol. No offense , but would anyone really think she would be like "this company sounds amazing" lol
agreed, but I do wish he quantified expected revenue for 2015
the way I'm looking at this is that we can buy a company today with a 150 Million dollar market cap that has the potential to do a billion in sales in a few years
Honestly, after hearing that call yesterday, I'm not worried about this investment. I mean, if it goes to $1.50 will I be upset? yes, but that call did a lot for me--this is a real business with tremendous upside potential in the next couple of years.
can you in a general way explain what the reason is? thanks
listening to call again
an executive decision must be made going forward that Henry leads the call. He just gets the message across so much more effectively than Joe does
forget about the stock price for a moment...lets pretend its not even public....did they say WHEN revenues will hit?
true
i need to listen to call again, but did they quantify when revenues will hit? and did anybody ask them revenue projections for the next 12-24 months?
That was such a great call yesterday
does anybody have a link to the call so i can listen again?
thanks
i know i know...easy....i thought there were going to be questions from other WALL ST analysts that were on the call..in the Q & A...
question---i thought there were going to be wall street analysts on that call..thought i saw that somewhere
anybody short this stock is out of their mind.
just bought another 10,000 shares
this is really exciting
OMG--did you guys just hear that Red Sun possible market!?!???
yeah..stock price weirdness aside..I finally feel like I know what this company does and its pretty damn exciting
he does, but calls like this are marketing opportunities. Henry should be speaking.
I'm hoping we hear questions from analysts, not just these individual investors
".I think Joe would be a good speaker to an audience of customers/smokers.."
lololol
that was good
Henry is clearly the more articulate speaker and should be the main messenger.
60 million shares outstanding
160 million market cap
My takeaway is that from a business standpoint this is extremely compelling.
Price target is hard to quantify, maybe some of the analysts in Q & A will ask more specifics on estimates
Joe sounds like such a good ole boy lol
love him!