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That's what I'm saying. The closer that Titan comes to FDA the value starts to rise exponentially and other suiters will be knocking with huge offers. Medtronic would be wise to close this deal before then.
One question that I have not been able to figure out is....are the patents we see approved every week open for Medtronic to use or was it only the patents and IP that was approved at the time of the agreement? Would Medtronic need another agreement or a buyout to have access to these current patents?
Its in the Medtronic agreement. It has been posted on this board before. Titan is not permitted to negotiate or "talk to" any other companies other than Medtronic while the agreement is in place.
No other big players like J&J are involved with Titan at this point because the Medtronic agreement they have executed specifically says that Titan can not talk to other companies about their product. Now why would a company like Titan sign something that makes it impossible to promote their product to other players out there? IMO, they must know what the end game is with Medtronic.
The longer Medtronic waits to buy out Titan, the closer Titan gets to FDA and they become exponentially more valuable on the open market. There is risk for Medtronic buying a pre-FDA company but possibly equal risk in letting Titan get to FDA and being bought out by a competitor.
You do realize that Mc cannot release any info without Medtronic giving the Ok, don't you??
Does Medtronic have access and full rights to only the IP at the time the deal was signed or do they also have access to the patents that continue to be granted to Titan Medical?
5-7 Billion IMO
I wanted to buy some more so badly today when it was climbing. I kept myself from hitting the button though. Too many times I get excited on a rise like this and tell myself its finally happening and I have to hurry up and get more only for the stock to come back down the following week. I hope I'm wrong and this climb continues but a 20% climb on no news with not major volume still has me skeptical. We shall see.
Honeycomb when can we expect to see all of the tax lose harvesting you and Magnus have been constantly talking about? Thanks.
Exactly. Facts just get in the way of Sports fear mongering.
Exactly and we know you are not a new investor...you are a past investor that sold and you know TMDI was never $75/share regardless of what the chart shows.
But you know that Titan never actually went up to $75/share yet you keep using this talking point.
There must be a reason why this heavily redacted super secretive agreement was sent to the Mergers and acquisitions attorneys at Medtronic.
The longer that this continues and Titan continues to make progress toward FDA the more valuable they become (much more valuable) to other companies that want entry into this space quickly. Could easily create a bidding war. This is something Medtronic has to consider when timing a buyout.
Lol this guy been saying Titan will drop to .40 for months now. Keep telling yourself that.
We get it already why do you have to keep posting the same crap. Tax loss harvesting blah blah blah. You are wasting your time with this garbage but I suspect you don't have anything better to do with your time. End of 2019 you said this would go for 3.7 billon now year saying 120 million if they are lucky LOL you have been exposed on this site. Sit back and watch the share price every day for the next 2 months and hope for that drop to .50 that you've been predicting. Just please stop trying to push everyone else to sell their shares to help you out.
Why even try to have an intelligent conversation with this guy? Don't you see what he is up to? It's pointless. His only goal is to scare people into selling right now.
Honeycomb.77 is that you?? It just occurred to me lol. Same fear mongering with tax-loss selling and the 10 million is already baked in and this will drop to .40 soon. Same talking points.
Just frustrating I feel like when Medtronic came knocking because their robot Hugo was a big fail that Titan had the upper hand. They should have said sure you can have everything we have for 2 billion take it or leave it. Where else would Medtronic have gone? Titan could have said walk away and we will sell to one of your competitors but we are not going to play games for the next 18 months helping you guys out.
Titan should have had a buyout requirement at the end of milestones in their agreement with Medtronic I know Titan was hurting for money at the time but Medtronic was totally screwed with Hugo and needed Titan's IP. Where else were they getting game chaining IP from that could save their robotics program>? I really hope Titan agreed to the 30 million and the milestones to play this out the way Medtronic wanted but also have a huge payday agreed to with them for saving their robotic platform. Also, again, why would Medtronic want to redesign their Hugo system with Titan IP and then part ways and let Titan go sell thet same IP to another competitor? Doesn't make any sense.
Am I mistaken or wasn't it already reported as to who bought the 18 million raise? Some financial investment group I thought. Maybe I am wrong. Thought they had big Medtronic investments as well.
These scenarios you laid out work out great for Titan but no so much for Medtronic. Why would Medtronic want that info leaked and then Intuitive coming in and trying to outbid them? This is why in the Agreement Medtronic has all the say on what info and what PR's can be released and when. It is also why we prob won't hear much until we have to.
You think Jasminder has stayed at Titan for this long because of loyalty lol? He know better than anyone that they have the goods with their IP Portfolio. The guy could walk tomorrow and land an amazing position anywhere he wants. #clueless.
E is for Einstein correct?
If Mc has inside knowledge of a possible buyout deal with Medtronic than he can not buy shares on the open market at this time do you not understand that?
Oh of course.
Love all the redactions in that document. The naysayers haven't provided a valid reason for them.
Just curious why do you keep saying "we" in your posts?
I'm not understanding this licensing route that you keep mentioning. Why would Medtronic allow them to sell the same IP they are incorporating into their robot to other competitors and even if they didn't care why would all the other competitors want to share the same IP and features as one another? You would think Medtronic or one of these other companies would buy them out to prevent this.
What % of yes vote do they need for it to pass?
I just don't see Medtronic finishing up with Titans IP and then allowing Titan to then sell or license that same IP out to another competitor to Medtronic. Why not just buy them out and lock it up at that point? Especially for a company like Medtronic that has the cash to throw around. Who knows though.
They won't answer that question because they can't. They also haven't answered my question about why all of the redactions in the Medtronic Agreement.
Apples to oranges...stop comparing the two. Titan was in different place then and had hundreds of million so shares and was doing it to get off the OTC. Most thought this was a good idea at the time and didn't know a raise would be needed and Titan milestones would be delayed.
Can anyone shed some light on all of the redactions in the agreement with Medtronic? If this was just Medtronic taking some IP that they want from Titan for a few bucks why the secrecy with the redactions and milestones? It seems to line up with what is actually happening right now in either of them wanting the public to know and run up the SP IMO.
Correct me if I'm wrong but any new patents that Titan is granted are not open for Medtronic to use. They would need an new agreement for these?
I will start off by saying I am against the RS but don't forget a reverse split will only really hurt if they do one and then do a raise for more funds and don't support SP. Now if you forget their past history and believe things are different now with Medtronic involved and If they are truly funded and do a reverse split and then drop some big news than the stock takes off and is now above $5 so more institution buys can come in. Instead of 100 million shares at buyout there are now 20 million so the buyout SP is now 5 times higher. Its all relevant again assuming they support the price after the split and don't need more funding. That is the million dollar, or 2 billion dollar, question
Wouldn't the holder of the 18 million shares vote no to a R/S? Why would they want that after just investing such a huge chunk?
Cant figure this out. You would think whoever bought the 18 million is not inept and wouldn't just fork over that kind of cash to a dwindling startup company with a checkered past for no reason. You would think they were given some info on what the next 12 months look like. I seriously doubt they would be ok with the fact they are down about 8 million in the last 6 weeks. Doesn't make any sense to me someone please explain.
Also, someone asked earlier about all of the redactions in the Medtronic agreement. Why would the 2 companies need to hide that info from the public? Thanks.