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So, based on 8k another 1.6 m preferred stocks that have now been amended with rights and privileges including the option for holders to convert into common stock at any time? More dilution?
Long term, maybe but heading down soon for a little...
Basically the amount ppl are willing to pay for the option to buy a share at $4 later, sometime in the next 5 years
Basically the amount ppl are willing to pay for the option to buy a share at $4 later, sometime in the next 5 years
Is this a new offering or the same thing? Not sure what it means.
Yes. If you do TA, look at the chart the last couple weeks, it was only natural... But even setting that aside....Since they increased the number of shares, one would expect the share price to drop by a similar percentage to what they added/ are adding. Based on the filing with sabby/mintz, we should be about halfway through the offering...Though sigma said they expect it to be done the 21st. Barring news today I expect this to go lower but maybe not too too much. If they can bounce off low 3s/ upper 2s should settle down... Though depending on how shares trickle in, what retail does once the D's are gone, and with the weekend/ trading holiday coming up, it could still break lower and get hairy. Still a good company long term though, imo... I'm not there yet, but I'll be a buyer soon I'm sure. GLTA.
Thanks.
I don't think it will go down forever. This move was to be expected even without the uplisting based on the chart alone... Or the split alone... It'll bottom out and stabilize before too long. Silver is right in that on news it will move quick, but that doesn't mean one should overpay in the meantime. No need to talk of delisting already... Still a long way to go before that. Must be sub 1.00, or less than 5million for 30 days, and even then a co. has 180 days to get back over the hump. I think this co. Has potential but no sense paying more than you have to if you can help it.
Personally I'm waiting on the technicals to shore up before making an entry. Or, re-entry, I should say.
I still haven't bought back yet. It doesn't act like it's searchable but if you type in sglb anyway in the ticker box it comes up.
I have e trade...It's tradeable and last price 3.35
Considering what they just diluted I'm not sure even 20 percent is really a discount... Still watching and waiting here.
PS....We are at the equivalent of high, and now mid ones. For the record ;)
I put a little test order at an unfillable limit price and it allowed it. Canceled it after, but it should be tradeable on e trade. Again though I sold all my shares awhile ago in the 3's so maybe it's different when you already have a position. I didn't buy back pre split because I figured it'd dip even with an uplist due to dilution and retail trading delays and also I had the same problem as you last time they split
... Hoping to snag some in the coming days.
It also shows 200 shares traded today?
I will buy back soon but since etrade is phenomenally slow at anything relating to stock changes I would rather miss a little than end up locked into shares unable to access the ticker while the price dwindled. The insider buys are good... though I fear a certain someone's activity though may falsely obscure the true, that is to say natural value. If I miss this first run will get in on the subsequent correction. Not worried long term, and truly glta! Still long at heart just trying to be smart with my trades. Hopefully etrade will do better on a Nasdaq stock than with the last split lol that was maddening
Um no that's for losses. I banked profits this last time around and have had settled cash waiting in the wings for eons.
Will they be on Nasdaq tomorrow?
We hit the low 2's i called for a week ago, still not sure whether we'll see high ones. I hope we don't so as not to interfere with any uplist attempt... I do hope to buy in again in the not too distant future but will wait til r/s is complete. No sense in having my shares cut in half and frozen while brokerage changes info over again like the last time. Being forced to watch value disappear and unable to do anything was the worst. I think there will be plenty of less risky buying opportunities to come before it's all said and done
"KMey"--having a hard time finding you on "that other site" but had a question if you're available. Also, this assessment [I'm replying to] still stand?
And this last conference call in November he said he did not know when if ever we were going to be working with Materialise in any meaningful way and that no further work had been done yet,(one of many reasons why i sold at the time before they tanked to .7's-.8's) sooo.....
So is this s1/ Reverse Split definitely happening, since there were no dates? How will one know it is happening? Still on sidelines...
I'm not talking about making their announcements. I was referring to Mark's too-rosy anticipation on the timeline of things that has hurt the share price repeatedly. I'm just saying if he's misjudged again and they're uplisting in anticipation of contracts, they are dependent on the big boys lining up with that timeline, or else the nasdaq investors will eat them alive if contracts again fail to materialize within a pretty narrow window.
Don't get me wrong... I think this ultimately will be a great thing. But personally I'm waiting til the dust settles because the last R/S was miserable and it will be at least a few days to a week before we hear anything about nasdaq at the earliest if they just submitted the application this week. Could even be a month from now, who knows.
Yeah but if the announcement timeline is slower than they "anticipate" (as it has been basically EVERY TIME) there is literally nothing to support the share price and NASDAQ investors will eat it alive. Again we are left to the mercy of the big boys (GE, HON) to confirm things, and I feel 100% certain GE does not care about Sigma's share price (since they prefer to buy their supply chain anyway). For all the talk of 3rd party--my undertanding is that ISO standard compliance doesn't have to be a separate company. Separate departments generally suffice- you just have to have your quality independent from production. Idk what other standards the board has referred to to emphasize "third party" and "independence" but I'm not so sure it means what everyone seems to think it means...
7-8?
I thought it was illegal to withhold material events/info....
It sounds like trying to fill the vacuum left by Morris Tech getting gobbled up by GE to me. Which is good for them, but I really hope Mark isn't still barking up that tree too.... he should take a page from Ron Swanson.... not half @s $ing two things but whole @s $ing one thing. That detour with contract printing/arete, not focusing on finishing/selling their software suite enough (til Ron Fisher helped), is part of what got them into their current mess (along with many other poor decisions). I still don't understand when all this is taking place.... are they definitely actually uplisting or is just the S-1 definite? and when?
How do you have an offering February ___ 2017? When is this happening? I still don't get it :(
LOL!
I don't understand any of this. My money is on the sidelines [as noted previously] but I've been watching for something like this.... are they uplisting right now? Is it better to get in the common stock tm, or after the dust settles, or the warrant stock, or after on NASDAQ? [I can't figure out the math because there are all these blanks? What are the prices? What's more bang for your buck?] would love to hear the pro and contrarian long voices because it's clear as mud atm.
I do offer a caveat in that big news would change everything.... but that's been the case from the beginning, lol. Barring something from left field in the coming weeks, the technicals suggest we're headed lower. I mean, volume alone should tell you something. I'm fairly certain we'll be back in low 2's before long, possibly high 1's, and if they go radio silent for months again, or have another CC like the last one, who knows where it will end up.
Idk, man.....I've been mostly in this since 2013, had a core long position that went wayyy up (to .27, or $27 today's prices), banked a little at the top, had a bad stop loss trigger on the correction and bought back too soon.... watching the rest whittle away slowly- so slowly you almost didn't even notice it.... good news would hit, lots of sunny posts and FOMO..... and somehow the price would go even lower.... I saw "no reason" for a lot of the moves it's made, but such is the OTC. I used to be very skeptical of alan, but had I listened to him years ago he'd have saved me much in the way of kicking myself for all the lost profits and coulda-woulda-shoulda's, and I know a lot of you here could say the same. Personally, I got mad and formulated a new technical strategy last summer/fall (not just with sigma, for all stocks), salvaged what little I had in SGLB after that godawful CC, started listening to Alan, had a very merry Christmas, and waited with discipline for my targets + confirmation in this last run, didn't get greedy, and finally made some decent $ again for the first time in awhile. Again, I believe in the technology, but even Cola suggested 2018 before the big time.... if you can justify the wait, I applaud you and wish you well. I check for Sigma news daily and am sure I'll be back again before it's all said and done. GLTA, I mean it!
Sidenote- those who say "if you wait for institutions- you'll miss the boat" have said the same thing for years.... at $20 (.20) and $12 (.12) and in the 6's last fall.... it really defies credulity, since EVEN IF something came out tomorrow re: GE or whoever.... right now, no one knows who we are, and wouldn't right away,even if some announcement broke...[remember that 3-4 day interval way back in April 2013 between sigma's announcement and GE's confirmation of involvement?] and don't think for a minute that the moment such real news hit, we wouldn't all be buying hand over fist before "the rest of the world" (or investment community) even had us on their radar. Most institutions can't buy OTC, so you'd have a run, uplist, run in which to make bank. So maybe you make 10x your money instead of 8.... poor you.... but you're also not going to lose the half or 3/4 of your principal you could've put elsewhere and compounded in the meantime. And even if you waited POST-institutional involvement.... you'd still make money, as Joe-schmo retail investor caught wind even later in the game.
Call it what you will, but I have a baby and a good ol' American hospital bill to consider.... I can't afford to be so "imaginative" with real money. This last run made us a nice chunk of change though, and I am sure there will be more runs in the future- even if I do expect a short term correction. I refuse to let FOMO get in the way of rational sense, and strategy. Will jump back in when news or my targets hit.
Ultimately, maybe, though I think we will hit low 2's/high 1's before they do. If and when they do finally get large contracts/proven revenue, it is probable- especially if they can uplist over the coming year, but as alan and others have mentioned barring some dramatic development this month-- they will have to do something in the near future to keep the lights on/ manage that IP loan, even with these new contracts, because the revenue trickle is so slow (400k between now and 2018 via DARPA.... up to 6m over 7 years via the unnamed OEM....etc) and they will have to pay all these new employees/board members somehow. The IP loan is what i find most worrisome, because that is everything,the whole company- and if Mark's projections on timing were too sunny- (as they have been for the last 3 years)- it will get worse before it gets much, much better. I believe in the technology-Sigma, or whoever ends up with the IP will most likely be a winner.... I am just less certain about the short term execution and business moves here and now. Still watching and waiting on the sidelines.... hopeful for the company, just not willing to bet just yet. Technical indicators alone suggest correction in the next week. (Yes, I know OTC indicators are less accurate- but traders do use them, even here- esp. on short time frames.)
It's against TOU to use names ;) Just ah.... re-read the posts from yesterday.
That would be pretty sweet!
For the record.... I seem to remember a certain paid poster coming around when he needed to UNload shares.... not prior to loading. But perhaps my memory is faulty.... lol [thinking of that first "big run" summer-ish 2013...]
Interesting to note....ASCM is gone, as is the volume. I wonder if the co. really was selling At-the-Market....I suspect if it breaks 3.00 will go lower in a hurry. Back on the sidelines but watching closely for re-entry. I hate flipping but can't afford to just keep throwing money at this (as I did in past years) since we have more responsibilities now but still a long-believer at any rate. Made 3x investment at this run, so when targets or news hits shall return. GLTA!
Alan you rock.... [Saw your earlier advice....sold all but my watching share at $3.70-- tried for $4 for a bit, but settled at 3.70 when the intraday technicals went way south--thank goodness!] I think you are spot on (2 or lower) and now that we know it's "up to" 6m over 7 years not nearly so attractive to speculators. Will buy in again when the price is right. Thanks!
Apparently they won a contract to manage Sandia in Dec. Was in wallstreet journal but I can't copy link