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Unlikely-I Agree
NASDAQ had a computer problem today.
The NASDAQ was down for a while today due to electronic data problems.
Any electronic glitch is possible today.
Bill Has To Pass Senate & Obama Sign
In order for any plan to dismantle FnF to be put into effect, a bill will have to pass Senate and then be signed by the President.
There are numerous ways they could effect a change. It is all a waiting game right now.
Fact-Obama In My Home Town Today
Obama was in my home town today speaking at the University. I do hear he likes chicken wings. I do know he was here because the traffic was halted on the Interstate near the University.
Other than that fact, I do not know of anything else he said or did today.
Obama In My Home Town/Congress At Beach
Obama is in my home town giving a PR speech at the University. I do not believe FnF was mentioned in his agenda. I would guess education and Student Loans were a priority topic. As well, Obama may be cooling off in the North and enjoying some food at his favorite restaurant.
Congress has a total of 5 weeks of recess. All of August and the first week of September.
I check often during the day for news articles, changes in the stock charts and even rumors. But I do not expect much to happen with FnF until Congress is out of recess.
Everyone relax, enjoy summer and check in to see what is happening.
Can't Wait For Power Hour
Obama urges action to bring Dodd-Frank into effect
Barack Obama urged the top US financial regulators to speed up the implementation of regulations associated with the 2010 Wall Street reform bill, which have stalled amid disagreements between agencies and intense lobbying by big banks.
The US president delivered his message to Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve, the heads of the Securities and Exchange Commission and Commodity Futures Trading Commission, along with other regulators, a day after returning from his summer holiday. Jack Lew, the Treasury secretary, also attended the gathering at the White House.
“The president commended the regulators for their work but stressed the need to expeditiously finish implementing the critical remaining portions of Wall Street reform to ensure we are able to prevent the type of financial harm that led to the Great Recession from ever happening again,” the White House said after the meeting.
Mr Obama’s meeting on financial regulation comes just ahead of next month’s five-year anniversary of the collapse of Lehman Brothers and AIG which triggered a financial crisis and a deep recession, as well as a huge bailout of financial institutions by the US government.
The Dodd-Frank law, named after the Democratic architects of the bill in Congress, was crafted in an attempt to address the regulatory shortcomings exposed by the crisis. Yet amid efforts to reshape the law from big banks, US regulators have failed to agree on certain key aspects of its implementation, raising concerns among Dodd-Frank supporters that it would not be able to function properly in the event of another crisis. One of the main provisions that languished is the so-called Volcker rule, which seeks to ban risky proprietary trading by financial institutions.
Detractors of Dodd-Frank, especially Republicans in Congress, mocked Mr Obama’s efforts to nudge regulators towards completing their work.
“Dodd-Frank is a complex piece of legislation that is harmful to our floundering economy and in dire need of repeal,” said Jeb Hensarling, chairman of the Financial Services Committee in the House of Representatives and a Texas Republican. “A meeting between the president and an army of regulators will not strengthen America’s economy. What’s needed to give Americans the healthier economy they deserve is greater personal financial opportunity, prudent capital and liquidity standards, greater transparency and market discipline,” Mr Hensarling added.
The White House meeting on Dodd-Frank came as Mr Obama is choosing a replacement for Mr Bernanke at the helm of the Fed, with Larry Summers, the former Treasury secretary, and Janet Yellen, the Fed vice-chair, regarded as the top contenders. The candidates’ views on financial regulation has emerged as a key topic in the race for the Fed chair, especially since Mr Summers has been criticised by members of Mr Obama’s own Democratic party for advocating for lighter regulation on financial services groups, particularly during the late 1990s.
The slow progress of rulemaking regarding Dodd-Frank has caused even some supporters of the bill to demand more aggressive measures to restrain Wall Street banks. This has included two separate bipartisan efforts in the Senate to impose tougher capital requirements on banks dubbed “too big to fail” and to restore aspects of the Depression-era Glass-Steagall law that forced commercial and investment banking to remain separate but was repealed in the late 1990s. Obama administration officials have consistently said that full implementation of Dodd-Frank needed to occur rather than tougher new legislation.
According to the White House’s account of Monday’s meeting with regulators, Mr Obama also discussed his recent proposals to reform housing finance and gradually wind down Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two government-owned mortgage giants. Mr Obama and the regulators also discussed how budget cuts were hampering financial regulatory agencies. The director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was created by the Dodd-Frank bill, and the acting director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which regulates Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, were also present, along with the head of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Comptroller of the Currency, and the head of the National Credit Union Administration.
Buy On Bad News Sell On Good News
This may be the time to buy.
+1 BigBenWallace
I have said the same thing for the last two and a half weeks.
Parking Lot For Fannie is $1.50-$1.89
FnF has been hanging in a 39 cent parking lot for the last 2.5 months. It has moved out for a day or two or three, but tends to move back again.
If Fannie holds above $1.89, IMO it is on the way to $10.
Just my real lousy opinion.
Congress Didn't Do Much Before Leaving for Recess, But They Totally Took Care of Commemorative Coins
At this rate we will find out what happens to FnF in about 2018.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/congress-didn-t-do-much-before-leaving-for-recess-but-they-totally-took-care-of-commemorative-coins-20130805
The 112th Congress was one of the least productive Congresses ever. The current, 113th Congress is now off for a five-week summer break, and it's not doing much better. Twenty-two bills have been passed and sent to the White House since this Congress convened in January—less than the 28 bills the 112th Congress passed by this time last session. Since January, the Senate has passed about 63 bills, and the House has passed about 210. The bills that have made it into law have largely been small: There's been no big new jobs program, no actual repeal of Obamacare, no immigration reform through both chambers.
But there's at least one thing that Congress has been able to come together and take action on: the regulation of commemorative coins.
On April 24, the House took up H.R. 1071, with the remarkably unwieldy title of "To specify the size of the precious-metal blanks that will be used in the production of the National Baseball Hall of Fame commemorative coins."
Why take this on? Well, here's the House Republican Conference with the background:
On Oct. 26, 2011, the House passed H.R. 2527, the National Baseball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coin Act, by a recorded vote of 416–3 (Roll Call #812); it was signed into law by the president on Aug. 3, 2012. The law directs the secretary of the Treasury to mint commemorative coins in honor of the 75th anniversary of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. The law also calls for the design to be domed, with a convex and concave side, a first for the U.S. Mint.
The mint found that when the center of the coin is pushed out, the edges of the coin draw in, which results in a final coin that has a diameter a few thousandths of an inch smaller than that which is specified in the law. To meet the sizing requirements in the law, the mint would have to order custom coin blanks rather than use the standard coin blank. Seeing as this would bring a large added cost, the Mint has requested that the law be changed so they can continue to use the standard coin blank.
So, if Congress didn't get this new bill passed, there would have been a veritable coin disaster. But, luckily for us all, Congress stepped up.
The House passed the bill by voice vote in April. Then, the Senate passed the bill without amendment by unanimous consent. But would the president sign? Sure, why not! This bill to fix an error on the National Baseball Hall of Fame commemorative coins became public law on May, 17, 2013.
But even on coins, there is more work to be done. On May 7, H.R. 1849 was introduced in the House. The bill is the Collectible Coin Protection Act, originally sponsored by Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas. But the bill didn't really get moving until it morphed into H.R. 2754, sponsored by Rep. G.K. Butterfield, D-N.C., with the same name. Bipartisanship in action!
But what exactly does the Collectible Coin Protection Act do? The bill is a change to 1973's Hobby Protection Act, which made it illegal to create or import any commemorative coins that weren't marked with the word "COPY." The new law would also make it illegal to sell non-COPY coins, or support or assist anyone who violates the Hobby Protection Act.
This bill passed the House just before recess began, on July 30. It now falls on the Senate to protect our commemorative coins from knock-offs.
Take that, congressional pessimists. You think Congress can't get anything done? Well, just look at this National Baseball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coin GIF, courtesy of Congress and the United States Mint:
Freddie Mac Is Aggressively Hiring
Can you believe it? FnF is going to be shut down and Freddie is hiring.
http://www.freddiemac.com/careers/
http://investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2013/8/18/ugwllScreen_Shot_2013-08-18_at_8.47.52_PM.png
Dissolving Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac may hurt borrowers
http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/la-fi-harney-20130818,0,635900.story
WASHINGTON — You may have seen two sets of news reports recently that didn't quite add up: First, President Obama called for the liquidation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the country's largest providers of funds for home mortgages. Then, Fannie Mae announced its sixth straight quarterly profit and said it was sending $10.2 billion in dividends to the Treasury. Freddie Mac also reported a hefty profit — $5 billion over the previous three months — and said it is providing $4.4 billion in dividends to the government.
Both companies also summarized what they've been doing for home buyers and owners since their takeover by the federal government in September 2008. Given the president's call for them to disappear, it's worth taking a quick look.
Since January 2009, Fannie says it has provided funding for 3.1 million home purchases and 11.4 million refinancings of existing home loans. It has also helped 1.3 million borrowers who were behind on their payments and heading for foreclosure with loan modifications, workouts and other forms of assistance.
Putting borrowers into higher-rate mortgages still occurs, U.S. says
New group being formed to advocate for homeowners' interests New group being formed to advocate for homeowners' interests
Real estate benefits could be cut as part of tax reform measures Real estate benefits could be cut as part of tax reform measures
It has already paid back $95 billion of the $116 billion in taxpayer funds the government lent it, and could pay the rest next year. It expects to be profitable for the "foreseeable future," the result of the high credit quality of the new loans it's making and because of declining losses on its existing mortgages.
Meanwhile, Freddie Mac has financed 1.8 million home purchases, 7.2 million refinancings and 872,000 loan modifications or workouts. As of next month it will have paid back $41 billion of the $71 billion in assistance extended by the government. Its 2.8% rate of serious delinquencies is far below the mortgage industry average of 6.4%.
Both companies also provide significant financial support for rental apartment construction.
Wait a minute. Didn't both companies go off the rails in the years immediately preceding the housing bust, investing in subprime and other loans that contributed to the severity of the housing bust?
No question. But here's the point: The president and congressional critics want to dismantle Fannie and Freddie, but what's to replace them? That's a thorny political thicket. Not only is there no consensus on how to do it but also little discussion of the potential costs for home buyers and owners. What would capital punishment for Fannie and Freddie mean to consumers?
Start with higher mortgage interest rates. Without the federal guarantees supplied by Fannie and Freddie, the costs of mortgages are virtually certain to rise. Economists at Moody's Analytics estimate that dumping the companies and switching to a plan advocated by Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and Mark R. Warner (D-Va.) would increase the interest rate for the average mortgage borrower by one-half to three-quarters of a percentage point.
The Corker-Warner plan would usher in a mortgage marketplace heavily dominated by big banks and their Wall Street partners. There would be no direct federal guarantee on mortgage securities, which Fannie and Freddie currently provide. The primary risks would be assumed by lenders and investors. There would instead be a federal backstop insurance arrangement in which investors could be covered in the event of catastrophic losses caused by an economic meltdown. The plan would be modeled after the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., with participating lenders paying for insurance coverage.
On the House side, a competing bill sponsored by the chairman of the Financial Services Committee, Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas), would provide no federal backing whatsoever for the vast majority of new mortgages — the Federal Housing Administration would survive but with heavy new restrictions. With not even a backup guarantee of federal insurance in the event of another mortgage crisis, banks would require higher interest rates from borrowers to protect themselves and might also be hesitant to commit money for long terms at fixed rates, putting the widespread availability of 30-year mortgages in doubt. They'd most likely prefer shorter term, adjustable rate loans, which shift more of the interest rate risk to the borrower.
The take-away on all this: Fannie and Freddie have had their problems, but they're now pulling in big bucks for the Treasury and still funding the bulk of American home loans under tight federal oversight. What replaces them matters — especially the retention of some form of federal guarantee to keep rates affordable. Dumping them precipitously in favor of a totally privatized mortgage market might sound attractive, but it would mean you'd almost certainly pay more when you need a home loan.
Can housing market survive without Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?
http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2013/08/can_housing_market_survive_wit.html
In a crowded high school gymnasium in Phoenix, President Obama renewed his call this month to phase out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-backed lending giants that needed a $187 billion bailout five years ago.
“For too long, these companies were allowed to make huge profits buying mortgages,” Obama said of Fannie and Freddie, “knowing that if their bets went bad, taxpayers would be left holding the bag. … Private capital should take a bigger role in the mortgage market.”
Fannie and Freddie, along with the Federal Housing Administration, back about 90 percent of the home mortgages in the country. Shifting a burden that size to the private sector could redefine the American dream of homeownership and cause a ripple effect through the economy, housing market watchers say.
Fannie and Freddie are publicly traded companies that buy mortgages from banks and lending institutions and resell them to investors with a federally backed guarantee that the loans will be repaid. When the economy is good, the companies, known as government-sponsored entities or GSEs, make money. When the bottom falls out of the housing industry as it did in 2008, the government insures against their losses, lowering investors’ risks.
Buying the mortgages frees up the banks’ resources to offer new loans.
Together, Fannie and Freddie were taken over by the government during the George W. Bush administration and received $187 billion in bailout money in 2008. They have been paying it back, with interest. Two days after Obama’s speech, Fannie reported a $10 billion second-quarter profit and anticipates it will have paid back $105 billion by the end of the third quarter. Freddie Mac turned a $5 billion profit in the past quarter.
The fear remains, however, that taxpayers are still at risk in another crisis, and most parties agree that ending the government’s dominant role in the mortgage market is an important move.
“It’s a very good idea,” said Ron Shapiro, director of the Center for Real Estate Studies at Rutgers University’s School of Business. “Clearly, it’s an idea the marketplace has had for some time. You don’t want to be in this business if you can find someone else willing to take the risk.”
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• Obama wants to shutter Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
But he emphasized the move should be made slowly, and with caution.
Fannie and Freddie hold between $9 trillion and $10 trillion in mortgages. Getting private investors to carry that load will take time.
“I don’t think there’s enough private capital out there today to take care of what government agencies are supposed to do,” said Shapiro. “And investors are still a little leery. It’s only been a few years since the economic crisis. It’s a great concept, but finding who in the private sector will want to take those risks may be a challenge.”
Matt Krause, senior director at Integra Realty Resources in Whippany, the largest independent real estate valuation and consulting firm in North America, believes there is enough private capital out there to carry the load.
“A lot of the pension funds and life insurance companies have been sitting on the sidelines,” he said. “They may see an upside in the housing market and they may see it as a good place to put their money.”
As outlined in the Obama administration plan, the government won’t step back completely from guaranteeing the loans will be paid, but will let the private sector absorb most of the risk. When that money evaporates from the market, the government will step in, meaning taxpayers could still be on the hook, but their risk is significantly reduced.
“You need some sort of a federal guarantee to make this market work,” said E. Robert Levy, executive director of the Mortgage Bankers Association of New Jersey. The primary goal, he said, should not be about protecting the taxpayers as much as determining the nation’s priorities.
“There has to be a change. The question is, how do we do it and how will it affect the overall objective of providing home ownership in the United States. How important is it to continue the flow of financing for people who otherwise wouldn’t be able to purchase a home? It’s a difficult issue to address, but if there isn’t a big discussion, then you’re making a big mistake.”
Levy said that without a federal guarantee, the risk to investors goes up, which in turn would lead to higher costs for a mortgage, fewer people applying and being accepted, and a drop in home ownership. He added that looking at the issue solely through the eyes of taxpayers is understandable, but it misses the bigger picture.
Clearly, it's an idea the marketplace has had for some time." Ron Shapiro
“My concern is we don’t oversimplify where we’re going,” he said.
The White House proposal mirrors a bipartisan bill sponsored by Sens. Mark Warner (D-Va.) and Bob Corker (R-Tenn) that outlines a five-year transition period for phasing out Fannie and Freddie and replacing them with a system that relies more heavily on the private sector, but still allows the government to step in if private capital becomes exhausted.
Rep. Scott Garrett (R-5th Dist.), chairman of the Financial Services Subcommittee on Capital Markets and Government-Sponsored Enterprises, has been in the forefront calling for the government to wind down Fannie and Freddie, but says he can’t support the Senate version of the bill.
“Not as long as they continue to expose the taxpayer to another potential tens-of-billion-dollar bailout,” he said.
“Their bill continues having taxpayers bear the risk, and we want to end that,” he said. “They say they are providing additional layers of protection, but ultimately if those layers are not adequate, you will get to the bottom layer, which is the taxpayer.”
Garrett said his measure in the House provides a mechanism for government involvement during extreme downturns, but it would be accomplished through reforms to the FHA.
Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), a member of the Senate banking committee along with Warner and Corker, said, “The question isn’t just what happens to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but what system replaces them. I think we’re seeing a growing bipartisan consensus that there needs to be some kind of government role going forward in order to maintain access and affordability, but that we can’t have a situation where private market actors have incentives to take large risks where they keep the upside and stick taxpayers with the downside.”
Julia Gordon, director of housing finance and policy at the Center for American Progress, said the Dodd-Frank Act, which gives the government more oversight of the industry, is key in turning more of the responsibility over to the private sector and protecting the consumer.
“Dodd-Frank makes it less likely that the mortgage industry can go off the deep end,” she said.
“Where the president is is where the majority of the stakeholders in the industry are,” she added. “What matters to me is that the (Dodd-Frank) safeguards are in place to serve a broad market so both the rich and the poor can buy a home. It’s critical to keep an eye out so that everyone is being served equally.”
If Fannie and Freddie are dissolved, what happens to their office space?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/if-fannie-and-freddie-are-dissolved-what-happens-to-their-office-space/2013/08/16/688b2cd4-0454-11e3-a07f-49ddc7417125_story.html
President Obama and members of Congress from both parties are working to close Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which for the District and Fairfax County could mean the dissolution of two major corporate campuses and employers in an already flat office market.
Members of the House and Senate have begun working on bills that would replace the organizations with different frameworks for backing up traditional mortgages. Neither proposal is close to becoming law, and a winding down of either organization could take years.
But in Washington, which long enjoyed unhindered growth in federal facilities, fueling the commercial real estate market, the prospect of losing the two agencies has already begun registering for owners of office buildings and development projects.
Freddie Mac’s headquarters are in 800,000 square feet of offices on a 38-acre campus on Jones Branch Drive in Tysons Corner that was developed in partnership with former McLean developer WestGroup. Should they begin to empty in coming years, it could further darken a bleak outlook.
“We sure as hell don’t want another million square feet dumped into the marketplace,” said Thomas Fleury, executive vice president of Cityline Partners, a subsidiary DLJ Real Estate Capital Partners that is planning more than 10 million square feet of development for Tysons Corner.
Fleury helped develop the campus for WestGroup. He said the Freddie Mac buildings are made with marble and cased, textured, pre-cast concrete hauled in from Colorado. “Those buildings are timeless. They are as good today as the day we built them,” he said.
Though the offices are not particularly close to a Silver Line station, they would make an attractive landing spot for corporate users. “Any one of those buildings would be a world-class corporate headquarters building. Collectively they would make up an entire university, for crying out loud,” Fleury said.
Spokesmen for both agencies said that executives had not yet begun contemplating a departure from their existing headquarters. “We expect the transition from today’s housing finance system to the future system will be a multi-year process,” Fannie Mae spokesman Andrew Wilson said in an e-mail. “In the meantime, we remain focused on helping people buy, refinance or rent a home.”
For years, the government itself could be relied upon to fill vacant office space. But those deals have been harder to come by as federal spending slows. Multiple Tysons Corner properties, including one of Cityline’s, was recently passed over by the General Services Administration when it chose to move the National Science Foundation’s headquarters to southern Alexandria.
A writer for thetysonscorner.com, a blog about the area, called for the Freddie Mac campus to be re-zoned for mixed-use development, saying “instead of leaving the Freddie Mac property to deteriorate or hoping for a new corporate tenant, Fairfax County needs to plan their next steps and leverage future changes to the benefit of Tysons and the county.”
Fannie Mae has 7,000 employees, about 65 percent of which are located in the Washington area, the majority of those at its corporate headquarters at 3900 Wisconsin Ave. NW.
Matt Pacinelli, senior vice president of leasing at District-based developer Penzance Cos., said “there have been discussions about them contracting out of there or whether they need that space or are too full and may need to move elsewhere.”
“The campus doesn’t seem to reflect the intent of the organization at this point,” he said.
In the meantime Pacinelli said both Fannie and Freddie are making short-term real estate decisions, such as lease extensions, without knowing how long the organizations are likely to be around. “How do you manage a corporate goal that’s unclear with the immediate decisions that have to be made?” he said. “Fortunately, they are the government and they are in a market where many landlords would be happy to have them.”
Any comments on ARTH?
After Hours Bid/Ask Means Nothing
I pointed out the fact that after hours amounts are meaningless. I also pointed out the fact that tomorrow will be volatile due to flipping and profit taking.
Only news is the Fairholme article.
The article does not state whether Fairholme will buy preferred or common shares. It only state Fairholme may increase its holdings in FnF.
Fairholme Fund "May" Increase Bet
"May" does not mean definitely. Be careful. No one can sue someone for not doing something they "may" do.
Play based on all variables. I have posted before, decide on your comfortable level of risk and stay in that limit.
$1.34/3bid $1.75/200ask on Schwab
The bid is $1.34 and ask $1.75 on Schwab.
One day earlier this week the after hours amounts were:
.90 bid $1.89 ask. FNMA opened about the same amount as the close the next day.
The after hours amounts do not mean a thing. OTC does not trade after hours. At EOD there may have been a bid hanging out at .90 and an ask hanging out at $1.89. Those amounts could have been put out earlier in the day.
There are plenty of shorts from the day the stock dropped to $1.03. .90 is wishful thinking for them.
The ask of $1.75 is a good indication that flippers and profit takers are waiting. There is nothing wrong with flipping and taking profit, but it will cause a volatile pps.
Make your plan before emotions take over tomorrow.
Be Realistic. Could Drop AM For Profit Taking.
Not everyone is in here long. Many are day traders. But IMO $25 by October 31, 2013 or sooner.
Shorts could try to drive pps down tomorrow to take cover. I see tomorrow pps as volatile.
Commons Eliminated May Receive BV
If commons are in a merger, commons may be entitled to book value of $65.00 pps. A profitable company cannot eliminate common shares without paying something out in the reorganization.
Please Read This Chart
This is a monthly chart.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2013/8/13/spvhcScreen_Shot_2013-08-13_at_7.56.46_PM.png
Why does the 100MA indicate the shares of FNMA should be worth $18.47?
What exactly moves the price of this stock? It does not appear to be entirely based on volume.
IMO Will Not Drop Below $1.03
The $1.47 could be an MM trap.
Dissolution is Legal Term For Ending A Corp Forever.
I have not seen the term "dissolution" used yet.
I agree "wind down" can mean many things.
I Hear Angels! Along4zRide Is Positive Now!
Wow! Along4zRide welcome to America. Corker is just doing his job putting the issues on the table. The final out come for FnF will be what it is meant to be.
In the meantime, we can only assess the situation day by day and play accordingly.
Buflo
$1.75 is possible on Monday.
Watt Install After Bernanke Speech
There is a reason Watt is not going to be installed until after the Bernanke speech. Watt is a golden politician. I do not think Congress wants him involved in a mess. Sooo, Watt will have to bring FnF out of a mess. How does that all start? The Bernanke speech could be significant. Someone has to punt the ball to Watt. It could be Bernanke.
No risk, no reward. Pick your level of comfortable risk and stick with your plan.
I Agree. The Pieces Must Come Together.
This is all tangled and does get confusing.
Darn, too late to buy wine on the East Coast.
I will think about this over a cup of tea.
I already follow you, FollowNoOne.
IMO Pop will happen in a dark period.
That is what I think we are all being set up 4.
BTW, my cousin did not tell me that.
Government Cannot Advocate An Investment (Other than Government Bonds and T-Bills)
Government cannot in any shape, form or manner encourage a person to invest in a particular stock. IMO US is doing it's best to avoid speaking highly of FnF. In fact Congress accuses FnF of being a poorly managed corporation. Not true, we all know.
Obama gave a public address several months ago and spoke openly and positively about the potential 3 D printer companies have to improve our economy. He was admonished for this statement. 3 D printer companies were all moving up in pps before his speech. Since his speech, the stocks are going sideways. Hmmm?
Do your own DD. Make an informed decision of how much you want to risk. No risk, no reward, but decide for yourself on your own comfortable level of risk.
No I Do Not Think Uplist Will Happen Soon
But normal uplist happens over night. One day the stock is on OTC, the next it is on Big Boards. Sometimes the stock keeps the same ticker symbol, sometimes it changes.
There is plenty of room to believe that there are positive events coming. Congress has spent plenty of time talking about ending FnF and it has not happened.
Congress is in recess when Obama gives a wonderfully orchestrated speech. Is he really serious?
Uplist Will Happen With No Prior News
Since common stockholders have no right to news under c-ship, uplist will happen with no prior news.
How Do Stockholders Know When Uplist Planned?
The board tells the stockholders. But FNMA common stockholders are not informed under conservator rules.
How A Stock Gets Uplisted...
It ends one day on the OTC and opens the next morning on NYSE.
Is it riskier to hold overnight on the weekend (Friday to Monday) than holding overnight during the week?
Buflo
Big Fish Having Little Fish Shares 4 Lunch
Pleezee Pay Off National Debt Then FNMA Free!
Could the hedge funds, Buffet and Nadar pleeze pay off the National Debt?
Then US will set FNMA free.
The national debt is actually a fraction of the $16 trillion. $16 trillion includes all future estimated outflows for every living US person, including social security, medicare, Government pension payments, etc. It also includes payment for all FDIC insured accounts, assuming all accounts would be defaulted on by banks. This will never reasonably happen. The actual cash deficit due now is more like $3-6 trillion. (This is all from one of Bernanke's live speeches. Even Bernanke does not know the exact cash deficit.)
Could the hedge funds pleezee pay the cash deficit off so Obama could leave FNMA alone?
1.50 to 1.89 is 39 cent parking lot
This stock has been in the 39 cent parking lot way too long. Anyone who flips stocks could have made a fortune in the 39 cent parking lot.
I also think if this stock holds above 1.89, it will go to "Da Moon."
Buflo
Correct! I was not thinking that far back.