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MakingGains, my dear colleague, I am a very long, long VRNG stock holder, why don't you just let go and let the market, or the thieves, or the crystal ball take over your continuous rant over this stock, now called Forms Holdings (fh), just leave it alone just for a while, it will do you good, it will do us good, it will do good for all concerned. Just stay on the sidelines and enjoy the view. I am in over $250K, nothing you can do, nothing I can do, all we can do is watch how thieves work in the middle of the night and learn how they do it. GOOD LUCK TO ALL VRNG'S LONG, DO NOT FORGET HOPE AND SPRING ARE ETERNAL.
spooky, we all will have learned a a very expensive lesson. in the hole over $250K, my shares have shrunk and hoping for a miracle to take place, somehow. But if this donkey would go to half of that I would be very happy. GLTA LONG, lest have a good outlook and bring the good spirits in. Spooky, will it ever get to around $7-8?
tste9, thank you for your response, where there is life there is hope. let's hope together and see what happens, like the Calypsonian song, Where the money went? the reply is "Down the Road". GLTA LONGS, any news from LANG, is he still involved?
ipnoob, do you think we will get to $4 anytime soon?
Rainmaker80, I have been in since July or August of 2012, thank you for your detailed information as to where the company is going, right now I am in for 250K and hoping it goes up somewhere 8 to 12 if it does, I will sell then. It has been an invaluable experience, an exhilarating ride, but have gotten a bit older as well. Thank you again, good luck to all long's, would be nice to find out what is LANG up to these days? good morning to some and good night to others, good luck to all.
MakingGains, I am past my elbows, $250,000.00 in, and they have the balls to ask for a raise? Not good, not good. LOOKS LIKE LANG IS LONG GONE!!!!!
spookytrades, you were right all along, they have been weeding out good people and keeping it all for themselves, Giovinco, what is your take in all this? please let's hear from you also. No wonder I never heard about my LONG with LANG, I still wonder where he is?
Rainmaker80, I agree with you this has to stop, and NOW. Red Angus, JJS, are you still in or out? what is your take on all this? your two cents worth in this matter, please.
Joebabe, I am beginning to see the light, they are dishing themselves quite a salary dish, we are in the slaughter house and no escape hatch. We need to start a directive group to fight this salary b.s.
ash111, thank you for your kind response, I will maintain my position at this time and look to some forward development, again thank you and look forward to being part of the forum, have a great day.
TechKim, new with SPEX, small investment, 20,000 old shares, in at .031, missed sale at .63, now 1052 new shares, will get up and go again?, thank you for your candid response.
Flounder55, Thank you for your candid response, AHOY, blow strong winds until the sails and mast blow away along with the ship, sink to the bottomless depth of the ocean, never to be found, along with all the mischievous actions of the "PEARLMAN'S DYNASTY". You are right, yes I am under, your No.1 solution would happen if it just would get to 7 or 8, how long would this take?, solution No.2, may ride the ocean, with a captain that get's sea sick and can't handle the steering wheel, Lord have mercy!!! GLTA LONGS.
Rainmaker80, thank you for all your help, all I can add to that is "OLD TOO SOON, SMART TOO LATE" are the "Pearlman's in the funeral business" this procession is at snail pace, hoping for an Epiphany for directions to take at this time. GLTA.
Joebabe, I never said I would not sell for less than $100 in any of my posts, therefore it will be appreciated not to quote something I did not post I am still holding on to my shares. Regarding LONG WITH LANG, is not longer the case, no one knows where he is or what he is up to. As you saw on my post that is what the sad reality is with VRNG, and I will take what I posted today, then again the wind may change and I may wait for the $100. GLTA Longs with a clang, put it in your pocket.
Rainmaker80, good morning Rain, just wondering where are we going just like everyone else. I would take $7 to $9, in a good day when the elevator was going up, but being realistic $5 to $6 any day. When can either of those wishes may become reality and how long of a wait for them to be realized? thank you for your open and just answer. GLTA. looking forward to your response.
ipnoob, I guess between the shorts and the manipulators we up a creek without a paddle, we can not expect any help from the SEC to look into the harm ZTE, Google and others have caused us, only if a company in need of our patents and would like to interfere with a competitor could buy us out? at what price? GLTA LONGS
Giovinco, good morning, thank you for your posts, they are enlightening and obtainable in the sense of the pps being above $5, if we settle with DTV and come to an agreement with HUAWEI to license our patents I can visualize the pps getting close between $8 to even perhaps $11/12. I have been long since 2012, and I have not lost hope that the BOD are going to put all their efforts into bringing back VRNG to a healthy Company with other source of income besides the portfolio of patents that "WE" as stockholders own. GLTA
VRNG'S LONG. Have a wonderful day.
Red Angus, thank you for your words of wisdom and encouragement, you know how long I have been around, I am 1000% in agreement with you, there is no way I would sell my 22,500 shares at this time. I have them for sale at $16 and change. They are going to stay at that price for a while, in the mean time I have hope, a quality not very many have now a days in this forum. You all watch an see how thing are going to change. Best of luck and good health to all VRNG'S LONG.
subslover, first of all happy new year, been away, do you know why the drop from .097 to .052 something going on, no comments at all regarding the drop, do you know? GLTA
MakingGains, if it is possible and does not affects you in any way, can you disclose what was your pps at entry level. Thank you in advance.
MakingGains, if it is possible and does not affects you in any way, can you disclose what was your pps at entry level. Thank you in advance.
arper, Rain, Spooky, Red Angus, JJS, and all longs, I have been in this stock in and out since 2012, made some good trades and reinvested it back into VRNG, at the moment I have 22,500 shares, from my 225,000 before the R/S, in over a quarter of a mill. I have my share for sale $5.00 over my cost @ $17.50, if it sells I will play it accordingly. Let's hope that longs hang on to recoup at least their investment. Problem I see is that perhaps there are not many long as deep as I am, and that the new longs are in where is trading now, if that is the case I will surely find out come FEB 2nd., wont we? good luck to all longs.
Spookytrades, Rainmaker80, JJS, Red Angus, If this IP amalgamation of Patents holders comes together in Europe and the European Union rules that the patents held by VRNG, and other patent holders are valid and being violated in Europe, is there the possibility that, ZTE, GOOGLE and others could be made to recognize these patents and make violators pay a fee for the use of them and bring us income from Europe. I have only had coffee this morning. Thank you for your kind response.
Rainmaker80, you have brought us a fountain of information regarding VRNG, its value, its perhaps undefined future, but most of all you have brought us back "HOPE" to all longs with VRNG. I personally thank you for that. Thank YOU, GLTA, VRNG'S LONG, still wondering where is LANG in all this rearranging of the structure of VRNG.
Flounder55, I'll take a stab, at your question, No, NO and NOOOO., the BOD knew what was going on all along, and for them to take the decisions they did with OUR COMPANY???, NO WAY DO THEY DESERVE any raises, instead they should be cutting those salaries until such time they bring back the value of this company per share of at least $10 to $20., GLTA, AGAIN IT IS IN MY MIND AND DRIVING ME CRAZZZY, WHERE IS LANG????
Rainmaker80, thank you for the information you are providing us during these trying times. How do you see this company's pps going forward, near term, 3-6 months, 7-12 months. I don't mind if you take a peak at a crystal ball, besides reality. GLTA LONGS, WHERE IS LANG????
Red Angus, JSS, are you guys still in? I am holding my shares from 225,000 before reverse split to 22,500 after reverse in at 378K, I don't see this new company going to $16.80 for me to break even. I will be happy if this gets to $8 to $10? does anyone sees VRNG going up that much?
MakingGains, you got it right, from here on out look for the opportunities and take advantage every time you can.
Rainmaker80, I am not bashing Cliff, its the overall situation, I guess i should hold on to what I have. I really don't have an idea where the pps is going, I would like to recover some of what I have in this, I got myself in and I am going to try to recoup some for rainier days. GLTA. STILL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE IS "LANG" WHAT IS HE UP TO THESE DAYS.
Rainmaker80, Spookie, that is nothing to where some of us are, I am in $250K, do we have a hope to get to $10 and I'll be gone with my tail between my legs, you all are right MANAGEMENT IS ONLY LOOKING AFTER THEMSELVES!!!!
bh2614, I agree with you 1M percent, is a matter of fact I posted that our attorney went is busting the Judges "Chops" and since he was being paid with shares he did not give "SH!!!!", he was out to make a name for himself and not looking out for VRNG, also I do not know why did they wait so long to ask the SCOTUS for them to look at our request. Quite, right it means nothing at this stage, does it???
JJS, thank you for your candid response, have not heard from Red Angus in a while, perhaps we will be in touch in the future. What a lesson!!! Thanks again.
Rainmaker80, thank you also, you are correct I am not going anywhere. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE REST OF THE STORY AS PAUL HARVEY WOULD HAVE ENDED HIS RADIO SHOW, BUT WE MAY HEAR IT FROM SOMEONE ELSE (WHERE IS LANG?).
JJS, thank you again, Rainmaker, asked me to post your response from yesterday, here it goes Rainmaker.
Rainmaker80, a very good answer to "123456" he has everything going backwards, I for one am not going to sell at this time and it would be insane to do so. We have waited for a long time, I am going to wait until we have the rest of the STORY. I am not SELLING, NOR BUYING. Every one should do what is best for themselves. Again my friends GLTA, WHERE IS LANG?
JJS, thank you for your response, it brings a ray of hope, I also believe that management would not cut such a deal. We have been patient for a long time, how much longer? I ask that question to all lets hear from all, thank you again JJS.
JJS, thank you for your response, it brings a ray of hope, I also believe that management would not cut such a deal. We have been patient for a long time, how much longer? I ask that question to all lets hear from all, thank you again JJS.
JJS, my apologies did not thank you for your last response, thank you for that. It looks that we have come to the end of the line. As I mentioned on my previous post, worse than the VALENTINE'S DAY MASSACRE IN CHICAGO A LONG TIME AGO". Can you elaborate a bit on the results? thank you in advance for your kind response.
Captart7, good for you,I am out of dry powder. This is worse than the February 14th massacre in Chicago with Al Capone at the command the difference are the VRNG'S management, we want to hear from them now.
pragmaticjoe, I am with you 1.2 billion percent, which is the amount due to all shareholders, this is a class action suit for all VRNG'S long, by the way where the hell is LANG in all of this???