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The reason the promoter is a relevant topic of discussion is that he is a "moderater" of a Board about BEHL. He has a certain "authority" among the members and the Guests that visit the site and read his postings. This effects sales of stock in BEHL. In effect he is a "public "figure here .
He claims LOUDLY not to have any affiliation with BEHL. But is equally clear he wont rerveal any info on himself or how he comes by all his information on the company.
Now as the moderater and someone who HAS provided info on the company to others , info they could have used to purchase or sell shares, he should be under scrutiny. A lawyer for example, is licensed by the state bar after proving qualifications that he/she went to law school and passed the bar. This allows clients to at least vette the lawyer as minimally qualified by the state to take councel from.
In this case we have a moderater who does give out info despite his loud denials , and NO ONE IS ALLOWED to question or vette him. He expects everyone to just accept his info on pure faith.
That is where the problem lies. Who is this "expert, how does he come by his info, is he qualified to give info, what is his real background etc. Those are some of the questions not answered.
I dont believe he claimed to not own any shares. I know the claim to not have any direct affiliation . I do believe he owns A LOT of shares. That does not make him "officially" with the company any more than I am as a large share owner.
I do agree that something isnt right with his claims. Originally he was here and got banned. He claimed at the time he was in a major auto accident and was laid up for months with broken arms and legs. Fairly major injuries so it took 3 to 4 months to heal. During that time he was "bored" so he took up the playground moderater spot to keep "busy" while at home convelescing. After that he stayed on for his own reasons that he never publically stated.
I have no reason to doubt his story although at times I do question a lot he says. Even so, why is he still there all day???? Where does he get his inside info?? Why did he say "we" to me when discussing the events around the hiring of "Michael Burton" and the decisions that BEHL made . He DEFINATLY said "WE", that I will never forget, as it lead to me questioning who he really was from that point forward. I also noted that when I challenged him on the "inside info" and what he said he got very angry and pushed back hard. He was very uncomfortable with the whole discussion and where it was going. He uses anger to stop any questioning of his story and authority.
Hey , welcome here . Are you married yet?
What is this about documents ?. I am not sure what you are all posting about . ? What is the "allegation?"
I love the "open and honest forum".
I left that place because of all the secrecy, and I have a secret and use of the chat room to hide info. They play the game of giving out info to "select few who they deem acceptable to manipulate with bits of info held as bait to control". It is the LEAST open and honest forum around. If anyone questions the party line set by Phakum or Capt. America they get cut down and censored.
They sure notice what is being posted over here and comment on it a lot. It must bother them a lot. They dont like anyone questioning their "party line" and call questioners "bashers'.
No "sources" matter. The only info that matters is DIRECTLY from the company and what we actually see. So far the company isnt saying much of anything and not showing any work or actual progress that is verifiable.
I am still holding my cash until I SEE some verifiable product.
Great lyrics.
Another Monkee great, "another pleasant day in lala land, stock price dropping everywhere, rows of shares to buy at this great price, only I cant sell them later".
Or how about, Monkee see , Monkee do. Whatever the great promoter says, we all follow and do. lalalalalalalalala
Here is todays challenge for the munchkins in lala land.
I have some cash ready to purchase stock . The BEHL price is .0001, so as you all put it, it is the bargain of a lifetime.
If you can give me ONE TANGIBLE piece of evidence there is actually a real company doing real business and having a real product, I will purchase more stock. In other words, put YOUR money (or mine) where your posts are and SHOW ME SOMETHING REAL, instead of just "promises and hopes".
I dont want any more Dusty Springfield , "Wishin and hopin'.
So Phakum, CAN YOU PRODUCE OR NOT??? Wheres the beef??
Old news.
What about NOW? Where is the CEO hiding??? What about the BOARD??
I am so tired of hearing about all the good things to come when the CEO is still hiding sight unseen, unheard and incommunicado.
It is hard to take this seriously when he hides out from public view when this is a PUBLIC COMPANY.
I really hate it when the promoter claims he is in hiding because of the way the company was supposedly damaged by "evil people like Shen and Berry and posters here" so the Ceo of course has to stay hidden and protected from US EVIL DOERS> . If he cant handle the heat , how can he run a company????
Sorry but that excuse is pitiful!! Its like he only communicates with the world through the posting of Phakum. Very interesting indeed. Reminds me of a Star trek episode (original series) where the "NAZIS" running the planet used a "figurehead' Fuhrer who was behind glass and drugged , while the real power was with a general who used the figurehead guy to convince the followers this was a legitamate government. The general was the real power and was corrupt. I am not alleging anyone is corrupt, but the analagy of an unseen CEO hidden from public view and a "general " or is it colonel doing the talking for him is interesting .
Sell them to Winken, Blinken and Nod , INC. Purveyors of fine inflated shares. The shares are like the German money prior to Hitler when it took a wheelbarrow of money to buy a loaf of bread. 15 billion BEHL shares will buy 2 loaves of bread . Load up the wheelbarrow on those shares boys and girls.
Now that I am being quoted over on the dark side of lala land , I will repeat what I said. I will continue to hold my BEHL shares as selling at this price is ludicrous. If and that is a BIG if this company ever has a VERIFIABLE product and production , I will purchase more. But I wont purchase on the whims of words from a pumper or posters who claim to have inside info.
Apparantly waste to electricity is the big pumped idea now in lala-ville. Of course that produces "waste gas" as an offshoot of the chemical reactions. Perhaps over in the lala landfill they can bottle it for an "energy drink". The first toxic waste energy drink that is good for you (if you are a silicon based creature like in Star Trek).
Maybe we could get a DIVIDEND on the sale of this new gas based energy drink . 10% of the shares in BEHL would be the NEW DIVIDEND. What a concept.!!!
OOPS that has been tried already with BNPD. Where did you say my dividend shares are Phakum?? Did I miss something? Didnt you PROMISE a dividend????? Maybe it blew out of the landfill with the exhaust gasses.
The latest discussion coming from paranoia-ville is that posting here is "trying to destroy BEHL'". Simply by posting questions to their propaganda and asking for PROOF of their claims of upcoming sucess is by their definition "trying to destroy" BEHL.
First of all , I wish I were that powerful . I wish I could destroy a company just by talking about it. WOW. (narcicistic)
Second, I dont see how ANY post board can destroy a company. If that were true, every company in the world would fail as there is ALWAYS criticism and critiquing and questioning of ALL companies.
If ANY company cant succeed with detracters, then it has no chance of making it. BEHL is not having "problems"(a gentle term indeed), because of criticism from me or ANYONE here. That is typical thinking of people who want to blame someone for their or their companies failure. BEHLs success or failure will be decided ONLY by its OWN actions. So far those actions have not been stellar.
In addition to the "carrot" of tomorrow , they are using a clear "us vs. them" mentality to hold their share buyers in line to buy more shares.
They refer to anyone here or anyone who questions the "party line' that all is well at BEHL , with various epithets and other derogatory terms. If one questions anything about BEHL they must be a basher and of course evil. This restricts the chances of honest dialogue and real questioning of the company and whether it is a good investment.
They also claim to have DD that only they can get . Yet there is no company adress, phone , or web site or ANY EVIDENCE BEHL is operational. Yet somehow they have DD that "proves"BEHL is open and moving ahead. If anyone dare question the DD that only they have, that person must only be a basher . It is a setup that is typical of scams trying to lure people to spend their money on "promises" of wealth to come.
From another BEHL board, the following were found:
1."It is due to the MMs that the price per share is down still."
This is always the excuse, it is the MMs or someone else other than the company itself. They always look to blame someone else.
2. "BEHL will resume operations at any moment. Or at least by late May."
I thought they were claiming it is in operation according to them over there . Mike Burton is running it NOW.
Again it is always GOING TO HAPPEN. They keep changing the story.
3. "This is a once in a lifetime oportunity to buy shares in BEHL"
This is my favorite. I heard that same line when it was at .0022 . Now it is .0001. So how did that work out ?
Its always a "once in a lifetime oportunity" when someone is doing a con job to gullible people. This line is often the true sign of a scam.
Its interesting you mentioned the "speed dial" on fisher from Phleasum. At one point I talked to Angela about Fishers staying on to ":consult' at BEHL. She told me he was planning on consulting . I quoted that over in lala land and Phleasum immediatly called Fisher in Arizona when nobody else could find him. He then claimed Fisher was only "thinking ' about helping if needed. He was generally claiming Fisher was 'out of the loop'and didnt want that challenged.
Its amazing how if anyone questions anything or challenges him he can get to anyone immediatly by phone and challenge back. He is either lying or VERY HIGHLY CONNECTED IN THE COMPANY>
You could also call him , PHAKUM.
For those who still own shares in this like me, I have the following. I own MANY millions shares. I pretty much have figured it was a loss already, but just didnt sell as there is no point at this price.
However the beauty of this situation is that I still hold the shares and if on some fluke it ever goes up , even a little , I make money . If it happens to even hit a quarter penny I get rich.
In effect I cant lose now. I already took a loss in my mind on it so I can only stay this way or win later. So hang on if you own shares and wait. maybe lightning will strike twice here.
Like Janis Joplin sang, "freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose".
And of course "it aint over until the fat lady sings'. I havnt heard the fat lady yet, Only Phleasum . And he cant sing, just RANT.
There are several of his lies in those statements of his.
He told me he originally had a company that was going to be a VAR with BEHL and had constant contact with DENNIS FISHER about this.
When he gave me the "truth" about the new company he kept saying WE in the explanation of the decisions made. Such as "we had to move in this direction" . He did not use the word "they" about the company. He was VERY specific about WE making management decisions. he includeed HIMSELF with management.
When I questioned him on that he went back into his shell and claimed to not be directly affiliated with BEHL. I dont believe a word he says. He contradicts himself constantly. He has WAY too much INSIDE info to not be directly involved.
Change his name from Phlawson to --Phlease-um. Mr. I. Phleasum.
or is it Colonel Phleasum.
I stopped talking to Phaeton and the other pumpers long ago. They are as truthful on BEHL as a defense lawyer. Whenever Phaetons keyboard turns out letters , he is lying.
There is NO legitamate information on BEHL. It is all coming from pumpers like him/or him who continue to spew out vague, hopeful information to keep suckers buying more.
Dump is correct. Dont you see it now-----They are turning shares into ENERGY. Trash to energy. 15 billion shares of trash into hot air (or thin air). Great scam !!
Wishful non-thinking.
And you know this HOW????????
1. I have heard that line about "things are going to happen , buy shares now. Its another lie used over and over and over and over------------
2. How can ANYONE do any DD when there is no phone, no website , no real information , no real CEO, no Board, NO NOTHING!!!
Any DD is made up or from the LaLa promoter which only HE knows!
What exactly will raise the price? A few vague PRs and hopes and dreams and a Promoter in LaLa land wont.
I would love to see this go up with all the millions of shares I own. I just am realistic enough now to know it is not real likely. "we wont be fooled again"
I am waiting for someone, ANYONE to tell me exactly HOW this will go up???? All I hear are vague promises.
That is really funny in a sad way. I asked the promoter back in November if he would recommend purchasing more BEHL OR BNPD at that time . He recommended buying BEHL only AND THEN GETTING THE SUPPOSED DIVIDEND SHARES OF BNPD FREE.
Well we all know what happeneed with the dividend. So as usual the promoter was WRONG . I was wrong in listening.
Was it deliberate wrong info , or just he doesnt get it right ever??? That is an interesting question.
There is a rumor that Alex Padilla is Roger Pawsons son or son in law. He is another old name asssociated with BEHL and other scams.
I still wonder if Pawson just resurrected the name Mike Burton from his past dealings with the Mike BURTON in Florida (and the car race team). ,He resurrects scams /shells, why not an old name he did business with in the past. (and irritated the poor guy).
I see NO PROOF at all this new guy exists.
What kind of Public company has a CEO who has never been seen or actually heard from verbally , only through PRs and NO WORKING PHONE. This is why we cant discuss the current team . There is none. It is all smoke and mirrors and illusion.
I have A LOT of shares, many millions. So this still matters to me . I would love to see it do some real work.
BUT I am not counting on it . I see no evidence of any actual activity. It is totally depressing to see all the shares I own be worthless. I see little hope of recouping any of it.
BEHL as I knew it is dead. What is left is like the garbage they claim to be using to make energy. Trash .
How about the BRIDGE business.
How many bridges to NOWHERE can be sold with 15 billion shares.
BINGO!!!!!!
It would be nice if someone or some officials could uncover the "mystery man" promoter. It may answer a lot of questions on past and present BEHL dealings . He has remained hidden in plain view for too long. Yet he provides "information " on BEHL to all the posters in Lala land. Where does he get his information, and what connection to the company does he have?
And it continues now.
Question: What has;
1. No working phone
2. No physical headquaters or address
3. No actual on going business , just a "plan"
4. A fictitious CEO with a name resurected from the past
5. A share marketing Dept. headquartered at a Phantasy
Land lead by a Pumper who is a mystery man or woman
6. 15 billion shares of DREAMS that will never come true
7. A current price per share of a LUSTY .0001
8. Ended a lot of dreams of wealth for many naive people
Answer: BEHL / B yebye E thics , H ello L osers
Odd doesnt even begin to capture him.
If he lost his shirt , he deserved it. He was pumping BEHL along with Phaetown and and the others over in Phantasy land. He helped the Promoter scam a lot of the naive followers there, so what goes around comes around if he lost a lot.
Think about it. Pawson needed a new puppet after Dennis imploded.
He needed a name. Isnt it interesting that he had done business with a Mike Burton in Florida years earlier. Florida is where BEHL is incorporated. So he re-cycles the name Mike Burton to be the new puppet, er CEO. He re-cycles business plans with all his pink scams , why not re-use a name? It works for him.
The second part of the genius move by Pawson is he has the Mike Burton puppet live in Europe with 2 different countries involved. No real way to track him down this way. The promoter just laughs at all attempts to find the ellusive Burton in the US because of course, "he aint here". Good luck finding him in Europe you suckers.
Phaeton knew all this . He was laughing at attempts to find Burton in the US making all kinds of jokes about it. This is something most of you dont know . He was enjoying it and having fun watching. It became a sport for him. He knew all along Burton was never here(or existed). He KNEW BEFORE IT WAS EVER ANNOUNCED>
HOW??? HOW???? That is the question. FIGURE IT OUT!!!!!
He ran back to Arizona because guess who hangs out there?????/
Answer: ROGER PAWSON
From day one Pawson has been the bankroller for BEHl and Dennis was always beholden to him. When the preverbial crap hit the fan, guess where he went??? Back to DEEP POCKETS DADDY PAWSON.
That is why Pawson could then set up the new deal with "MIKE BURTON", or who ever the puppet is now.
If you want the address for BEHL , just use Pawsons house. Scottsdale, Arizona.
Funny you say that.
I stupidly asked his opinion (I did admit to 'hero worship'inthe past) just prior to the supposed BNPD dividend. I asked him if it was a good idea to purchase more BEHL shares so that I would get more"dividend'. He of course told me that although I shouldnt get opinions on purchases from posters on the Playground, HE agreed it was a good time to buy more shares in BEHL. He never wavered or gave any inkling of any danger. He was promoting the dividend heavily back at that point. So stupidly I listaened and bought more. Shortly after that he suddenly stopped his daily 'countdownto the Dividend' and a couple days later it all fell apart.
I believe he HAD to know there was trouble coming while he was counting down and pushing the dividend , which by logical extension would cause all the playground posters like me to purchase more BEHL shares. His psychological ploy worked well on us all. I would love to see how many shares of BEHL were purchased by playground posters during that period . One could make a case Phaeton was at least partly responsible for a lot of those purchases of what would become worthless shares WITH NO DIVIDEND. He is good isnt he!!!!!I should hire him to sell swamp land in the North Pole.
Live and learn Mr. JT Stocksup. I remember you too. You were always questioning and THE 2 Captain Americas, and sadly me , were always pushing you back . You were right back then. I knew it but stupidly let them use me. You dared say the emporer has No clothes on BEHl. You saw the scam it was becoming.
But what do I know, I am just a dumb Florida girl.
Dennis Fisher/BEHL , and particularly the 2 chief pumpers over in phantasy land. I stupidly acted as a virtual chief leutenant for those 2 Captain Americas. Whenever someone would question their version of the facts on BEHL I would stupidly chime in to back them as a united front. This tended to quell any opposition and keep the questioners down. WE only allowed one version of the truth there,the ALL IS WELL AT BEHL truth. "JUST BE PATIENT and GOOD THINGS WILL OCCUR."
Well we all now know that was a crock of lies. We did that until the week just before the supposed dividend from BNPD was supposed to occur. Suddenly all hell broke loose and everyone quit at BEHL so the truth was obvious, WE WERE LIED TO.
I never allowed myself to question due to blind loyalty and my own hope they were correct. Meanwhile I ignored all the warning signs that were obvious. Just like now , nothing that we are hearing or seeing shows any sign this company has anything going for it. It is built on LIES and more LIES by the PUMPERS. Only this time I dont beieve a word they say.
Fool me once shame on you , fool my twice shame on me. This girl Aint beeing fooled no more.
Pawson. Dennis Fisher wanted to hand BEHL over to Angela. Pawson vetoed it and pushed for a new deal with BURTON. Who actually "found" Burton Or CREATED HIM (he may be an alias of fake) I cant say. It WAS NOT dennis Fishers idea initially , I can definatly say that. So it appears Pawson came up with Burton and pushed this deal.
I spent several days researching Pawson back in December. I was LOUDLY told to stop by certain parties as it could damage BEHL. With that I was then allowed into the "inner sactum " to shut me up on Pawson and his horrible dealings in the past.
I will not cross lines and repeat what i was told in confidence and by whom to shut me up and stop the rearch but I was getting too close for comfort and they needed to shut me down . The result was a sort of "bribe'. I was given inside info in exchange for shutting up.
It is that experience and how dirty I felt for giving in like that that caused me to question those in Phantasy Land . They then turned on me after 2 years of extreme loyalty to them on my part. That is why I left and see just how full of it they are. They are clearly telling stories and using private chat rooms and other propaganda to buy loyalty and control their naive fellow posters over there. Very sad and sick.
When did this become a court?. If it were , BEHL would be in Contempt of Shareholders.
I really dont care what you believe. I know what happened and verified it with 2 other people who are "insiders" . They seconded what Angela said from Fishers point of view. So this verification is enough for me.
It is now April 14. Almost 4 months from when Burton took over. There is no real headquarters, no website, no working phones and NO DIRCT WORD from Burton. We have NEVER heard his voice . He was supposed to be interviewed at the Phaetonville Phantsay Land but , GEE IT NEVER HAPPENED, what a surprise. He clearly is the MISSING MYSTERY Man. MAYBE HE WENT MIA in Khesanh, Vietnam with Khesanhs Brain.
For a public company all I see is a company hiding behind a curtain in the Land of Ozz/Phaetonville.
I got it DIRECTLY from Angela who was there. She had no reason to lie to me. We had several long talks about the whole mess. She gave me word for word who said what . There were 3 people involved, Angela , Pawson and Fisher. Pawson ended up calling the shots. This is not hearsay as it came from one of the 3 people directly there.