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It has plenty to do with both Black and HNSS. Black was a major player there, with Cohn. Cohn now has a "Joint venture" with his old friend Black's company HNSS.
Posts noting connections between major players within HNSS (the CEO) and other companies/people associated with HNSS are on topic.
I would appreciate if you would leave Kanahele's posts on the board. They are very clearly ON TOPIC, and it just makes the mods look horribly biased to keep deleting them.
This doesn't have to be a medical product.
This could be anything from a small pad with a high resistance fluid inside to be used as an electronics heat sink, to a new type of food packaging.
This is my point. No company would dilute BELOW the Bid price. That's just throwing away money. It would also occur at a faster rate. As we have seen, whenever large buys hit the tape the price moves back up the point where volume stops.
This is manipulation.
Thanks Punk. One more question, which is on topic:
IF the company were dumping shares, that would be a consistent flow at the BID price, correct? Not dumping at prices lower than the bid as we have seen here.
Thanks. It just seems silly because there still shouldn't be large blocks to buy back in with at the lower price. Basically, they not only are betting that people will get scared and sell out, they are also betting that the number of shares that are sold down there will be large enough for them to get their order through with all the others rushing in for the low price.
Can someone help me understand how a flipper takes the price down to buy low? I'm not trying to be a troll, I would just like to understand it better.
I'm new here.
I picked up this company a few weeks ago and from what I read I wish I had got it sooner
No you don't. You just got in at the bottom.
Every wonder if along with the traders/flippers the shorts call and badger the TA's too?
This along with the previous piece you posted about the TA being part of the short problem are making me curious. How would the TA be a part of that problem?
The TA is self-gagged by their own admission. Their policy is to not provide information regarding the share structure of any of their clients.
HNSS is 'purposely' using them because the company chooses their own TA.
I'm not spinning anything, I've been in a long position since Q3 2010. I flip occasionally, but only because it makes more sense than just letting a position remain static.
I have HUGE problems with some of the one-sided pov's that show up here and how the mods make very blatant efforts to wipe out any and all other opinions. It makes it seem like a couple people have more at stake than their investment.
Why would someone want to mislead investors by implying the Company has the TA gagged when it is not true?
Why would the company purposely use a self-gagged TA?
I look for this to change over the next quarter if the disclosure comes out with good information.
He has a point.
How is that not relevant when the company has issued PRs about acquisitions and forecasts about the revenues being generated? It sounds like the same song and dance.
I'll take another 310K at this price. If nothing else, it will flip easily.
Interesting. I'd like to see some of those notes, without names of course.
Fat-fingered 10 million?
I know a small group of investors on the board who own around 100 million shares
Thank you for yet another copy/paste of the ibox
How are those bags you're all holding?
Feeling heavier after years of carrying them around?
CNBC Health Care Article
Seems like things are setting up well for low-cost producers.
I stole that thought from Josey's orignal post on the subject.
As much as I'd like them to buy the float up, Housh has a point in that the MM's will just destroy the price anyway
If they use that money to buy back shares, the market manipulation can destroy that 500M infusion and take the HNS fund down before it gets its feet wet. By using it to make sound investments in outside, exchange traded companies, a lot of the risk is mitigated and the can use small pps gains/dividend payments to increase the fund assets at an escalating pace.
It's a very good long term move, but unfortunately a lot of folks around here are more concerned with 'now'.
The disclosure will be a good read when it is released because it will answer a LOT of questions and shed light on what is happening behind the curtain.
Tomorrow is Friday, Friday
The moving averages have proven to be very misleading in the past. IMO this should not be treated as a momentum play until after the disclosure.
This sounds like you were just impatient and got played by the market. 'Oh no, my order isn't executing immediately, I must lower my price!'
not when i sold. how can you say that is a lie? where you there when i sold? maybe you sold on a higher volume day, such as the days news came out, but when i sold, i had to hit the bid at lower and lower prices
This is a lie. I have sold 200k+ share blocks three times in the past 8 weeks, and each time they executed flawlessly between the bid and the ask.
And with the small amount of shares i had, it was extremely hard to sell my shares, so i can only imagine what it would take for those with 1mil shares or more
But the disclosure will bring in new investors, hopefully.
I'm content to let the board die until the uplisting.
Hidey is right.
In the meantime, just be happy that you got your shares at a discount from the price you were willing to pay.
What do you think, Punk?
Am I cgoing ompletely in the wrong direction, with that line of reasoning?
I don't mean they are suckers.
I just think it is more likely HNSS is trying to use this as a second chance to buy the float back themselves. Rather than issue another PR about a buyback, play it off on a third party.
The problem is that nobody is taking them up on the offer. (that we know of)
Maybe I'm not communicating my thoughts well enough.
I'm still stumped as to why they aren't simply buying retail. If we move past .01 on 1MM per day for 10 days, I would be surpised.
I'm just throwing this out there:
I don't think US News intends to buy shares. I believe that HNSS either created US News themselves, or just threw them some money/shares to create a "Joint Venture" so they could try and stir up some volume. I'm not saying it is Bad that they did it, just that it isn't working the way they wanted/expected.
Punk153 said: US CORP is NITE on the Bid $0.0072. IMO
Is there any data we could look at to try and proove or disproove this? I can see that it would be, because NITE usually isn't top of the bid unless they are pressing downward, just looking for some more info.
That makes perfect sense. Hopefully, after the disclosure we will see a more accurate valuation.
THanks, Olanda!
FYI, Without a translation this is off-topic spam
hopelijk niet cynisch....., de verwachtingen van beleegers zijn altijd hoog gespannen, de bookwaarde kan wel groeien maar onderwaardering speelt ook parten vooral als er weinig beleggers het aandeel kennen zoals thans het geval is, huidige waarde moet toch ook groter zijn dan 0,0069 dus eerder tegen 0,0115
Don't forget that they have also been awarded a contract for $493,500 worth of product deliverable in 2011.
Your posts always make me laugh.
I did something similar about 6 weeks back. I sold a huge portion just to free up the funds, then when it tanked down to the 4's I picked up a MUCH larger position. I sold a lot of it in the mid-high 7's the past 2 weeks, and have picked up some more today.
I'm riding a position that is twice as large now, but with only 70% of the initial investment.
Hey Scrags,
What do you make of the information in the message that frans posted? They seem to be eager to get their hands on any shares they can.
Two trading days left until the disclosure and fins due.
This isn't true. They will become current DURRING the second quarter, not necessarily the first few days, or even the first week.