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I think my facts outweigh your option in this case. :D
50m O/S at .0009 is a $45,000 market cap.
You really think they'll dilute an additional 500% of the company before PPG sends them the first check?
Let's do some math...
They need 600k a year to operate.
That means they have to sell 1m dollars with of shares every year with CD with the 60% discount.
They would have to double the O/S every-time they need 600k at a 1m dollar market cap. With the price falling about 50% every time.
It will take a long time for them to print 50m shares...
I figure they are going from 8m to 16m O/S by early next year to fund the company. It would take another year to get to 32m O/S...given the company stays at about 1m market cap.
HCTI might sit at 32m O/S in 1.5 years or 64m O/S in about 2.5 years if they burn at the consistent rate they have been.
It took HCTI more than 5 years to burn 1.6 billion shares and the stock never hit trips before the R/S.
I'm gonna bet HCTI gets to that 20m revenue stream before they go over a 16m O/S. With 16m O/S....20m revenue is worth several dollars per share.
I'm just going to repost this if anyone says "trips after rs" again.
The company isn't diluting anything. Their lenders are. The company cannot sell shares directly into the open market. No OTC stock can. SEC rules.
Nobody enjoys having angry shareholders but until significant revenues start coming in they're stuck with CD to finance the company.
If you don't think PPG is selling their NIPU products then don't invest. Time will tell. If PPG is really starting to generate revenue for HCTI this is gonna blow up so hard...just a matter of time.
There is so much potential here. It's just a matter of getting out of this CD and onto profitability. The SP will fly when this happens.
Lol u realize even at 15m o/s the market cap would be at 150k dollars at 1 cent? Do you realize how cheap that is? 150k dollar market cap for a company that has products in 8k stores. That's ridiculous.
Yea I am more confident than ever. Some here will think I'm an idiot but an idiot is an idiot until they're not.
I feel the same. Trying to stay positive. I dont think we'll be at this bottom for long. I added more. Holding 671k shares now.
Great summary. Don't think the consultant is gonna be left without a chance to sell his container of shares.
There must be something to the story they have yet to release. Possibly revenue projections, milestone payment made...who knows.
Been looking at all the big chemical companies product catalogs and it appears alot of them have NEW products added based on Polysiloxane http://www.paintdocs.com/docs/webPDF.jsp?SITEID=SWPROTECT&doctype=MSDS&lang=E&prodno=B80V800
I'm gonna keep looking but It's possible this product was developed based off Figovsky's work.
We have not been told about the specifics of what sort of product was developed.
It's in one of his patents too. BOOM.
https://www.google.com/patents/US7820779
Check this out. Figovsky mentions polysiloxane in one of his newsletters!
http://www.nanotechindustriesinc.com/pdf/AK_Aufsatz_Figovsky_PU_E_04-2013.pdf
I FOUND THE PPG PRODUCT HAHA. SPEC SHEET DATE IS AUGUST 5th 2016.
They didn't get anything from the PPG name as you can tell from the trading. The consultant still has a shipping container full of shares he can't unload. So unless HCTI has a better story than a F500 name then we might as well pack up our bags cuz it's game over.
They could have released that PR a long time ago where we actually had liquidity. Right now the dollar volume is completely dead.
They are the WORST scammers...ever.
More CD because they STILL don't have significant revenue.
Before the EPA award they have released alot of fluff news about comex and orders coming in. I believe they have a great product but just had no idea how to navigate around the F500 companies. I believe they jumped the gun without realizing just how long it would take before Comex/PPG would put their products on the shelf.
"Sure we'll test your product and if we like it we'll do a pilot program."
HCTI management probably never dealt with F500 companies before. They probably thought they would spend a couple weeks in a lab before Comex realized how amazing it was and money would fly in.
Wrong. Post EPA award alot of things appeared to have changed. They took on a consultant and after YEARS of testing they finally got to patent development and commercialization agreements...they may actually be finally putting a new or reformulated product on store shelves. (Still to be verified of course).
I really do think they ran the printing press into overdrive because they saw the finish line ahead and needed the consultant to push the company over it.
If they actually are doing what they say (remember EPA and IF turned out to be legit) then there is a chance for this story to end with making MANY shareholders into millionaires.
I have asked about other products in the PPG catalog. Many of them have been reformulated this year. They are giving me the same line about some of these reformulated products. This is the type of information that PPG is not willing to disclose. It is proprietary information as far as they are concerned.
You can interpret the "no comment" statement however you want at this point. PPG could be keeping their mouth shut for various reasons. If there was absolutely no connection they would deny the claims otherwise people will just keep asking. It's a classic zero acknowledgment yet no denial line when you did something you might be ashamed of doing. I am sure PPG doesn't want to make all these reformulations but new legislation is forcing them to do it.
PPG has alot to lose by calling it too soon with HCTI. HCTI on the other hand have nothing to lose. PPG has developed the product with HCTI for years before finally committing to commercializing it. PPG management could be instructing IR to keep quiet about many of the reformulations they are currently doing until the market has accepted them fully.
I am sure HCTI is way more eager to make the announcement when the nda is expired. It may take further time before PPG feels comfortable in doing so. It doesn't mean the partnership isn't real. It just means it's unverifiable at this point.
Why doesn't HCTI just start throwing around a bunch of F500 names then? They could unload all the shares they want. Why did they wait years to release a name? That makes no sense given they have some credibility with the EPA and Industrial Finishes.
That's what I was thinking. Anything around 7 cents would be consultant prices. If we lose then he also loses. He's the biggest insider as far as i'm concerned. If he is confident enough to buy those warrants than maybe us gullible investors have a shot :p
Everything I have stated are facts. I never denied that we are/have been being diluted. The facts are that the consultant owns a huge chunk of the O/S along with warrants. I keep asking you why he would funnel the money back into HCTI if the company was upon imminent doom.
The only thing you have added to the discussion was the obvious from the past convertible debt and reverse split. Nothing more.
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I got the same. They neither acknowledge nor deny the press release.
They are obviously aware of hcti but are not willing to disclose anything about them through their own shareholder channels.
I think it took some talented convincing of PPG to allow HCTI to release their name. Looks like they don't want any shareholders to know who may be behind their products.
I believe if PPG really had no association with that press release they would most likely call out HCTI and deny any involvement.
Dark accusations and speculation. None have supporting documentation except gut feeling and dark hate towards the company obviously. Possibility as a result of a large loss. You keep talking around the fact the consultant is invested with conspiracy theories. It's a futile attempt to discuss the facts here.
Did you forget about the 160k IF order?
Getting the PU right IS their priority. That is why I say don't even bother stressing about the NTI merger.
Index funds doesn't make any money. It doesn't even keep up with inflation. You lose money every time with index funds. It's just a place to park your money till something worthwhile comes along.
Minus the CD HCTI has followed a good business plan.
Need I remind you ALL pink sheets use CD? This one at least has REAL business.
This is mainly why I think HCTI is not going to screw us in the long term. They need to be publicly traded as a finance vehicle in order to accelerate their development. The PU is not the only thing they want to get developed. This is a 20-30 year nano technology cycle. They are thinking WAY down the line.
Thats the longest paragraph ever haha.
I agree the NTI merger shouldn't do anything to the price in theory if done right but as a pink sheet it would kill it. If this was on NYSE like PPG that might be a plausible scenario but only if NTI has alot of value to add into HCTI.
Like I said earlier HCTI needs to get to a point where there PU is a major success and they have a solid revenue stream. Only then can an NTI merger work. It's like merging in a new suite of undeveloped drugs with huge potential.
Our P/E would go from 15 or 20 pre merger to 100+ for a number of years as the products are developed. That kind of merger can't work as a pink sheet. This only works on big boards. Thats where shareholders would pay up for future earnings like that.
Haha the PPG association is so big that nobody believes it coming out of HCTI's mouth. I think this one will need more than the word of HCTI even though I agree there is no reason given they have the EPA and IF already behind them.
When it hits it will be like hanging out with Doc Brown hitting 88mph.
Ain't gonna happen anytime soon. Nobody should be stressing over nothing. The merger will mess up the consultant and he won't be letting that happen anytime soon.
Heh. or they are just reformulating their PU just like they have reformulated most of their products this year to comply with new regulations.
heh. unless they just modified their existing product line and stuck a "new" sticker on it. What has always been selling will continue to sell advertising or not.
I mentioned the consultant because he is the captain of this ship and is a crucial part of understanding the NTI merger. He took the money from HCTI and gave it right back to them in exchange for warrants with a cost basis of 7 cents. I keep saying that but it seems that isn't getting through. This is important so remember it.
Okay. Now tell me how the captain will unload 8m shares at the current valuation before an NTI merger?? Unless the company is valued at a much higher valuation then the captain of the ship will sink his own boat with those warrants hitting the open market. He will have wasted all his time and money over this.
The consultant is not stupid. Giving the company a ton of cash for warrants doesn't make sense unless he was invested. Try to spin it any other way but that IS the story in the financials.
You keep saying the consultant will screw shareholders but fail to give a detailed response as to how he will dump that many shares without losing his ass.
I am still waiting.
You're looking at this at the worst case scenario which will probably not happen. They aren't going to do the NTI merger unless it adds value to the company. This is an option for the long term goals for the company. Polyurethane is NOT the only trick they have.
Right now HCTI has only the NIPU side of the business. Merging NTI in would open up a full spectrum of technologies to shareholders. Who knows what those technologies are actually worth down the line.
If HCTI's polyurethane ends up being widely accepted and displaces a good part of the PU market that adds soo much credibility to NTI's other technologies.
Lets say the market cap of HCTI gets to 500m 3-5 years from now and they decide to do the NTI merger to bring their other technologies to the market. They already have established relations with F500 companies and have a massive revenue stream. How does this NOT end up looking like a bio stock developing a hot new drug????
You're wrong though. We keep telling you how it's just not possible to do it at the current valuation without drowning their biggest lender which by the way owns a huge chunk of the O/S and holds a ton of warrants and "makes decisions on behalf of the company".
PPG's has gone through and reformulated many products in it's catalog this year. It's really hard to point to any one specific product because soo many have changed this year. It could be one specific product or it could have been a whole category of them. I would be surprised if they released a brand new product label at least initially. People will buy what they have always bought. A product with a new label requires alot of advertising and training to get people to pick up something different off a shelf.
haha yeah I knew that. What can I say I like my numbers round :D
It's crazy to twist these warrants into a crazy cash out option story. That just simply is not the case unless the stock is at a much higher valuation. Exercising these warrants at current valuation and doing the NTI merger is like running out onto a busy highway.
Tell me how 8 million shares at a 7 cent cost basis is going to get unloaded for a fat profit? It would nearly double the O/S and tank the price. Those warrants were never meant to be exercised at this current valuation.
This is 2 or 3 years down the line. Nanotechnology development. This could be much bigger than just PU.
And im sorry nothing sustained from any objections you had from your speculation around the NTI merger clause.
Great summary. He has 8 million of those warrants with a 7 cent cost basis. He's gonna lose his ass trying to dump them right now. An NTI merger would destroy him along with everyone else. That is not happening anytime soon.
I can see this NTI merger happening at much higher valuations where the products of HCTI are saturating the market place. An NTI merger would add a significant amount of value to the HCTI portfolio knowing their PU had alot of successes.
I beleive the NTI merger clause is both for protection as well as a long term plan to continue developing additional products after their PU products have been developed has saturated the market.
Yes. Really. The consultant could just pocket the money but he buys warrants for a 7 cent break even price. So far you have only convinced me further the consultant is invested here.
Nobody can dispute the legitimacy of their business deals so we're moving onto speculating over a protective clauses in the financials to try get a couple cheap shares from longs. Old CD ain't exercising at these prices so gotta shake the trees to get some cheapies.
That clause has been in the financials for a very long time. Nobody has bashed it till now. CD and protection clauses are the only stains left to complain about.