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No, you should not.
Correct, permitting and construction may take longer than you think.
My guess is no more than 5 sites before the end of the year. I would love to be proven wrong though.
Patiently waiting for numbers from the first processor.
I didn't have one at the time, I had just watched it on TV.
Here's a link though http://www.cnbc.com/id/34844931
Cool interview, anyone else see it?
High Hopes for California - CNBC after the break.
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Looks real good. In and watching this one now... thanks for posting.
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Plastic 2 Oil Application
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Nice run up yesterday. I don't have too much of this but I'd like to get more.
Nice opportunity coming soon, IMO.
His name is my name, too.
Whenever I go out, people always shout...
I like this:
"... process enables the drives to [usually] recover 100% of data stored on the media."
lol...tapes... some of his work must have been completely useless - by Z's definition at least...
I've enjoyed watching all the MM's show up.
No word on how much they get for each barrel. There is no way they are getting WTI minus $3 though.
Quoting Envion web site:
The Envion Oil Generator™ yields low-sulfur oil which is 99% sediment free – dramatically reducing refining costs. Similar to crude oil extracted from the earth, Envion's oil output can be converted into commercial fuels (gasoline, kerosene, jet fuel, and diesel) through additive treatment.
Quoting email:
synthetic medium grade refined oil that is 99% sediment free
Hasn't JBI said their fuel does not require treatment? It is already gasoline grade?
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* You will need to provide financial information regarding your net worth; liquid assets, previous business and management experience, and answer some general questions. The application process should take between five and ten minutes.
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* Once you have completed the application, be sure to print out a copy for your records.
* If we decide to proceed to a Final Application, you must be prepared to provide proof of liquid assets and net worth at first personal meeting. Liquid Assets must exceed $250,000, and Net Worth must exceed $1,000,000 exclusive of homestead. Requirements vary by market and by size of development agreement. Also you will need to consent to a credit and criminal background check.
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Ready? Let's get started!
Communication from Envion:
Thank you for your call and your interest in the EOG. Much appreciated! At this time, we are focused on working with the US local county government’s to bring these platforms to as close to where waste plastics are currently collected and processed. We project that commercial “licensing” solutions should be available within 30 days(1st Quarter of 2010). However we are taking names of business prospects – with serious intent NOW. If you would like to be on this list, please let us know your full name, the company you represent, your title and your contact info (direct telephone numbers, email and company address/ website) and we will make sure to contact you when commercial avenues are available at the soonest.
In the interim, let me give you an initial cost outlay. The cost of one Envion Oil Generator unit which processes 10K tons of plastics per year is USD$7M which includes the $200K maintenance charge for the first year. Thereafter, for the life cycle of the unit up to 19 years, there is a $200K yearly maintenance fee plus a share on the oil revenues (TBD). Each ton of plastic produces a range of between 3-6 barrels of synthetic medium grade refined oil that is 99% sediment free (quality of oil depends on the plastic feedstock). The plastic feedstock the EOG accepts are the following: www.envion.com/evp_typesofplastic.html
Total Cost: $18.00/ton of plastic waste
Total Cost per barrel: $3.59 - $5.98
Total Cost per gallon: $0.09 - $0.14
Electricity Cost: $15.00/ton of plastic waste
Electricity Cost per barrel: $2.93 - $4.88
Electricity Cost per gallon: $0.07 - $0.12
Range based upon 3-6 barrels per ton of plastic waste.
All numbers are approximate and improve based upon higher efficiency/conversion ratios.
Continuous runs result in scale economies eventually.
Electricity cost could improve, as we assumed $0.05/kWh.
Electricity represents 82% of total production cost, therefore with 18% attributed to labor.
NOTE: We urge you to work with waste management entities and integrate with their existing infrastructure so that up front investment costs will be mitigated and ROI will be lesser.
To give you an idea of the plastics conversion process, please see the video links below..
http://www.gizmag.com/envion-plastic-waste-to-oil-generator/12902/
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/maryland/091609_company_recycles_plastic_into_oil
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/16/plastic.trash.into.oil/
For more information on Envion.. pls go to our FAQ section as well as the attachment provided.
http://www.envion.com/cor_industryfactsheet.html
If you have further questions, just give me a call and will be glad to assist you.
When will we get all JBI's numbers?
To my knowledge there was never a set date for this to be completed. They are collecting CV/Resumes from interested shareholders. I believe the JBI board has to be completed before any up-list, and the time table given for up-list was A.S.A.P.
So along with upgrading Chem. plant, finishing 3rd party validation/releasing information for those looking into JV's, retro-fitting P2O ship, PAK-IT informercials...
It hasn't been said enough that it is an exciting time to be a shareholder.
which is cheap and recyclable, read the ibox and wonderful information provided here for you.
Your analogy doesn't apply.
A Car driving consumer pays for the gas to run their car.
JBI doesn't pay for the plastic that runs the processor. Hence, P2O operators don't pay anything to "fuel" their processor - They just need the plastic that is given to them for free.
YES, I do remember! I received a call from the friend I recommended JBI to AND his advisor, the one who told him it was "a shot in the dark".
Needless to say I wanted to call him an idiot, but he was very humble, which made it hard for me to continue to want to castrate him. He wanted to know more about the company, and I got him to admit he did 0 (ZERO) DD when he first looked at JBI.
The advisor and my friend are now JBI shareholders.
As has been posted here before, John is asking those interested in being considered for a position on the BOD to provide a CV/Resume.
It would be very foolish of him to base his decision on anything other than experience. I would imagine that if their are no shareholders that meet his criteria he will look outside the shareholder pool. However, I'm willing to bet that there are more than competent shareholders sending in their CV/Resumes right now.
Edit: Al Sousa has Florida on lock-down, it is OUT to anyone else.
He must be one of the "great operators" John is referencing in your first quote.
It was more of just sharing thoughts out loud. Please, if you don't want to read my posts or add to the conversation in a constructive manner, add me to your ignore list.
More than comfortable in my role as a shareholder and such topics should not make anyone uncomfortable. I'm not sure why you would bring that up. I know JB doesn't think the plastic refuse supply is endless. It is under-utilized today, but with new technology it won't stay that way.
Those would be interesting numbers to have. I'm willing to bet the value of turning it back into oil will be more than the value to turn it into other products, but won't know for sure before I see data.
Adding to domestic oil production, or recovery in this case, imo has to be more valuable.
Would love to see some numbers about the other processes though.
John has stated he won't let a market be created for plastic refuse, but I don't know how much control he has over stopping it. As this type of technology progresses I bet we have more companies attempting P2O.
If we are able to get a massive amount of processors running and this turns into the monster we all hope it does, I bet other people will start throwing tons of cash into R&D of the technology after seeing JBI's monster revenues.
Edit:
Also at some point we should hope the plastic supply gets locked up, 70-90%? To me it's a guessing game to say when demand creates a market for the refuse plastic.
Unfair... he is the estimate prophet.
Watch for my 4.90x100 buys at the end of the day ;) Paint it up!