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I was just looking for something concrete that would confirm that is the case is all. Contrary to popular belief I am not on here everyday nor do I read every message. So might have just missed that.
Was under the impression, wrongly so possibly, that was not something official, but more just thoughts by board members.
The "seems to be an agreement...sure this is the case" throws me off
Sorry double posted.
Not enough eyes outside of this board looking at this.
More eyes will turn this way when public knowledge.
Volume is what this stocks needs is all.
Small tight float, lots of longs holding, catalysts ahead for positive news and important dates yet to be announced yet.
Next 2 items on list for movement that can be accounted for with high degree of certainty on timeline:
up- LL settlement which I would think should be in or around end of May as that is when they both agreed to postpone case till.
up or down MSFT IPR decision due June 3rd probable outcomes 2 offer the stock to go down 1 offers up. debatable as to what the probabilities of the
those 3 outcomes are
101 could be anytime so no idea when that will show up
and eventual Trial Date vs ATVI still TBA
It is. Not exactlky what I am looking for, but will put me in the right area of board..thanks.
Is there possibly a link to that somewhere that can be provided?
SO lets say I have 100,000 shares.
So by today price thats $44 000 almost. 43,688 actually.
If for some reason I needed that $44k,
I could just sell my shares and get that money , but oh yeah less than 10k shares traded today so the demand is really high right now.
SO at 10k a day that would take 10 days. WHen I sell, with such high demand the price won't drop at all if I need to sell, because nothing but positive stuff happens. Or maybe I could have bought MAIN at $17 a share a year ago, let it go up to $40 plus dollars and get paid .205 a month in dividends for the last year as well, sell easily at any time since it is not as high demand as WDDD and take that money and buy in today at .43 or last week in the .30's or last month in the .30's. or in January in the .30's, or december in the high 20/s to 30's, or Sept, Oct and Nov in the 20's. I mean I could have just collected the dividends and bought WDDD almost 1 share for every share of MAIN I owned I get for free from dividends during Sept, Oct, and Nov. but none of that makes sense at all as this is a $10 dollar stock right now.
Taking jabs at me, poorly, very poorly, as this is going to be settled anyday now, no chances for anything but positive stuff to happen to WDDD.
this is a 10 dollar stock right now. They going to be giving out dividends like 1-2 dollars for sure as soon as ATVI settles next week before 101 decision or an actual trial date. I mean why would ATVI put in so much effort, time, and money to drag this out any longer. Its a no brainer. Nothing but positive stuff happening.
MSFT, oh yeah they will also go quietly being as neither of these 2 companies has nearly the resources that Linden Labs has. Ohm and the IPR process, that is a slam dunk WDDD dismissal, for sure! I mean the first PTAB trip didn't have any issues with 501 patent at all, and the PTAB being a death squad for patents is something that is not a real thing put out there by many people well more knowledgeable than me. Nor does it matter that was much more prevalent during Obama and Biden m and Biden now being in charge vs Trump...there is no difference at all..None what so ever, so yeah sink every dollar you have into this right now, probably should refinance your house and use that money as well.
Unfortunately, that is not how it works here.
I don't care, I still post when I feel the need.
I get amused usually, not annoyed that my posts get some people all riled up in that I have yet to post anything that is not plausible, possible, or even more than likely to happen than not.
My track record speaks for itself unless you get very selective and then like our moderator you can pick and choose what you want to take jabs at me with. Never mentions, I 100% think this is a winner in the long run.
But timelines are important and that is what I tend to focus on, because there are way too many places to make money in the market right now if WDDD is not moving there is no reason to commit more money here till it does.
Yes a settlement can happen, and as we saw Linden labs was rather unexpected. SO if you don't own shares, you could miss the boat, but if over committed you are missing the boat everywhere else and you can add shares here with profits from everywhere else. Do yourselves a favor and go back and look at how many times you could have bought in over the last 2 years for less than you can buy in under right now. And right now..oh yeah you have settlemnt in agreement in place being worked out, and still not crazy price to buy in what that on the table. too funny
SO good luck to all...no matter how you play this, just don't be the one left holding the bag if it all goes sideways.
Possibly a mixed bag of the 3 outcomes from last message.
Would be the 4th possible outcome. That was the easy quick version, the more drawn out version does include an appeal to CAFC possibly as well.
As we have all seen the court system can get very convoluted at times.
See other posts, but still a concern till decision is reached which is due by June 3rd
MSFT IPR case will have 1 of 3 outcomes.
MSFT wants them to say it has already been decided and they simply invalidate, WDDD wants them to say already been decided and wants it dismissed. The other option is the IPR is granted and the Inter Party review happens, which mean a trip to the PTAB
If 1 happens, case in Tx is dismissed, if 2 happens the case moves forward and if 3 happens then the case is stayed pending the IPR.
The 1st and 3rd outcomes may or may not effect the ATVI case depending on what claims WDDD narrowed it down to and if any of them includes the 501 [patent.
Please someone correct me if I am wrong.
IPR case was filed 12/03/20 so no way the schedule was set with IPR suit already decided being as the schedule was releases 12/20/20 I believe. . Sorry.
http://patentarcade.com/2020/12/microsoft-in-legal-battle-with-worlds-inc-over-alleged-patent-infringement-in-minecraft.html
I would look at the dates on that schedule.
That was created before they even did IPR stuff.
IPR decision due by June 3rd. So yes the schedule is set up for the case contingent upon this moving forward pending IPR decision. The Judge in TX has nothing to do with IPR decision Just like Casper had nothing to do with IPR case vs BUngie.
I am not actively trading, I have the share count I am happy with at that price. If the price drops significantly, will add, but if it doesn't, no biggie.
Those pacer documents are older, just did not get posted if I am not mistaken. IPR decision is due by June 3rd, have not seen anything on that as of yet...
The 2 best things about a settlement..1 is cash, first and foremost, but very close to that is the additional layer of validity that gets added.
WDDD has court case wins, 2 at PTAB, 1 at CAFC, Marksman hearing, a few more smaller ones against ATVI early on, so this is one more win and this carries with it financial reward.
AND THAT LOOKS GOOD TO A JURY!
ATVI tying up small WDDD in court for years, using Bungee as RPI and keeping WDDD from being able to monetize their patents.
The facts remain though, as can be seen by history. No volume means this bleeds down and no matter how exciting the news is, till volume goes up and stays up, the PPS doesn't, MSFT being denied IPR case, now that will move this up...details of the settlement being great, that will move this up, and ATVI settlment or at the very least an actual trial date...
that will move this up, as that sets the clock....then there is no more guesstimating. Then there is real pressure on ATVI.
As to talking this down or trying to keep the PPS down, I have zero influence on any of that. That is all volume related. My hostory here is very long, as long as the other old timers, I went from blind pumped in the beginning to a more realistic and more balanced view over the years as every time this looked to explode, it stalled out.
I have never once said this is not a winner. I know this will make a lot of people a lot of money. Me included. I hope we all make lots of money, I think this is one of the very best boards out there. I really do. Lots of varying opinions and strategies, lot sof mutual respect among long time posters. A few bad apples, not a lot of pure bashers, and TONS OF LEGITMATE information..
I value the information I have gotten from this vboard over the years, and do my best to share the information I gather and offer a view more grounded than just pie in the sky.
WHat I will say is I won't be the one left holding the bag if things go sideways. And anybody who has played around in IP stocks, have seen plnety of bag holders at one point or another, or have been one. Including me.
100% agree...I did not see Linden Labs settlement.
I am happy to admit when I am wrong, but to be fair
settlment any day now has been weekly for a few years now.
I'm stoked honestly.
The big pay day though..that is ATVI that is what everyone's waiting for.
100% agree this could be one of those 1 in a lifetime trades.
I know a lot of people here think so.
I own shares for just that reason.
I am happy with current share count, but if MSFT gets that IPR I will buy more because it will get cheap.
I'm excited, I did not see Linden in settlement talks at all.
I don't see ATVI doing anything anytime soon, and will be very happy if I am wrong.
VERY
I am looking forward to hearing what gets worked out...
It is exciting news for sure.
This is a turning point , at least I hope so.
Which is why this won't sustain or pop hard without a PR or actual settlement numbers.
Just because I did not sit and hold does not mean I am a trader. I moved out with a profit when risk went up, bought back in and locked in profits when risk went back down. I own shares, and I do see a good possibility of being able to buy more at a lower price in the near future.
So call me what you will, I am more than happy with what I have done here, and look forward to that ATVI trial date being posted.
No worries, I have a nice position, and if MSFT gets their IPR will add more. Short term this will move up, but not sure it will sustain it for very long without a PR in regards to settlement with Linden.
It is good news though, nobody knows just how good though as of yet
The other really nice part if a settlement happens is that the concern that the ATVI trial date might have been set up after the conclusion of the LL case is no longer lingering. So adds pressure to ATVI and possibly shortens time line.
I see that, but its all good I have shares, and still await the larger payday in ATVI
That is unexpected.
I will wait to see how much,
Here is a link to Second life estimates apn what they make annually these days
https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2017/03/second-life-marketplace-linden-lab-revenue.html#:~:text=So%20flash%20forward%20to%202017,million%20from%20Second%20Life%20content.
I see things are much the same still.
Nothing has changed except we have lower volumes which means this bleeds down. There is no settlement coming any day soon...
Linden Labs Jan 2022 trial,
<SFT IPR decision due by June 3rd
ATVI- Just running through the court calendar with no actual trial date posted yet, and that is looking to be November at the earliest if it even gets in before the end of 2021.
ATVI won't be offering a settlement before 101 decision for sure, and more than likely not any time before the actual trial date gets posted and tehy are at court house steps.
A legit delay happened, no biggie, NOTHING HAS CHANGED really over the last 2 month.
This is the second wave below .40 by the way...just saying...
and if IPR goes MSFT way or it has to go back tp PTAB again, will see sub .35's for sure if not back down in the .20's possibly.
If you noticed I never said sell anything. Just that the price would drop down to add. Getting larger blocks is not easily done, so having a solid position in place is a good idea.
Will get down in .30's again. Go back look at posts. Said would get there at least 2 more times. Thats 1.
We will not see any sustained growth that will hold till a settlement, positive IPR in MSFT case, or an actual court date from Casper.
Timeline is still uncertain while there is so many places to make really good returns on solid stocks with little risk knowing this price won't jump till one of those things happen.
And the likelihood of a negative ruling on the 501 patent is rather substantial.
And there is no need to chase this at all which is what you will do till we have a set timeline. Once that timeline firms up and its less than a year, then you buy as needed, not just wait for the bleed or dips.
As far as to the why, goes back to some people just see what they want to see and ignore all the other possibilities.
It is OTC land, thin volume, VERY THIN, so this doesn't trade like it should. It is what it is...
I don't expect any news till June, and I expect bad news which will drive price down. Which I will buy...
MSFT case is really the next thing of real note.
That is an IPR ruling on 501 patent which they will lose.
either outright tossed, or we start the IPR/PTAB process. is my honest opinion.
I still haven't seen anything yet about narrowing of claims by WDDD
I assume they did not include anything from the 501 patent.
Till new documents come out, or a ruling of some sort we will see slow bleed with some pockets of buying as tax returns come in and the upcoming $1400 stimulus check. That will be an opportunity to get out before June if you want.
I have dry powder, but I fully expect to be able to buy in the .30's again if I am right.
All of you talking about unconstitutional of ptab should read closer. The ptab is not the issue, the issue is the appointment clause. So the issue is the judges who rule have not been appointed by president and confirmed. So do they have the authority, if goes against then odds are the ptab would be restructured, judges taken out, and new judges would then be appointed by Biden. That would be very bad for patent holders who are not big tech.
I sti think this will drop below .40 at some point before we move up to stay. MMs will walk this down if no buyers. Weak hands will sell so there wi be some decent size blocks available will be there to scoop up. That's my opinion. People keep pushing settlement any day. Or if wddd gets the discovery they want, or bungie just going to pony up money without actually having to do so at this time. Till 101 decision is decided, and bringing in Linden labs info did not help, an actual court date to begin trial, or that IPR ruling due in June for MSFT, there are too many uncertainties on timeliness for the money sitting on sidings to jump in when there are so many places to make money knowing the price on this won't jump above .70 and stay there till those things are settled.
Oh will tell you right now. If no settlement, ATVI actually goes to trial and loses. I will be selling out completely. Cash in ... and then once they appeal..and price falls back down, will buy in again. :)
The timeline is getting quite messy with MSFT, Linden, and still no court date. Casper could easily justify getting this in this winter or
Waiting till after Linden suit. Uncertainty gets reflected in pps...
True. But knowing the time frame. You could have bought, sold re bought..all long term gains as this has been years in process
It has been a very unusual set of circumstances. I would like to think she will schedule this in Oct-Nov, but not her fault this has gone this long. Whitey Bulger trial is part, that was an extra year delay unrelated to this actual case. :(
The rest was just PTAB, CAFC, and the PTAB again which was 5 years basically. Just that newest thing on pacer from ATVI directly bringing in Linden Labs, has me scared she might push it out past that.
If WDDD adds the 501 patent claims for some reason, god only knows why they would do that though would make no sense at all, in the narrowing of claims, then June is a HUGE deal with MSFT awaiting IPR ruling.
I'm with Long Term here...did my research on Casper when she was selected, she is by the book, crosses all the T's dots the I's , she is far from cavalier about her rulings.
No idea. Just simply going by posted calendars.
Try not to guess as why things are changed, but looking at old calendar vs new one, simply saying those things still pending and how the calendar is spaced, and more importantly overall track record in my mind puts Oct as best case scenario. We can agree to disagree of course.
Based on current knowledge possible court date for Jury Trial
Sept-Jan. If that works for you.
I just think it will Be Nov-Jan myself. That new pacer posting though and ATVI bringing the Linden case into this one does muddy the waters so to speak as the trial date on that one is Jan 2022.
Maybe someone more legal minded would be able to answer this one though.
WIth Jan 2022 court date looming. Is Casper more inclined to get this one in well before that to avoid WDDD being in 2 trials at the same time, does that matter, or possibly would she push this to after that trial date?
Putting some links for myself to go through...just wanted to group them all together here for easy reference.
This one does really goo job highlighting 2021 BUsiness Outlook. Breaks down what is coming up this year.
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/02/10/2172785/0/en/ObsEva-Provides-Business-Outlook-for-2021.html
Breaks down Linzagolix ( Yselty UF) trials and what it actually does.
https://endometriosisnews.com/obe2109/
This one talks about competitors and possible safety issues.
https://www.evaluate.com/vantage/articles/news/trial-results/obseva-shows-why-red-flags-are-worth-heeding
The actual clinical trials data https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03992846
SOme of the peer reviewed and cited articles related to linzagolix
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32505383/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32100275/
https://journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Abstract/2020/05001/Linzagolix_for_Endometriosis_Associated_Pain_.82.aspx
https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(19)31540-7/abstract
MOst recent as of 02/21 FDA approval info- need to further investigate what else I can find here ( focus) https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/comment/loa-obseva-yselty-endometriosis/
Info on market size of endometriosis
https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/endometriosis-treatment-market-to-grow-15x-by-2030-2021-02-19#:~:text=Rising%20prevalence%20of%20gynecological%20disorders,US%24%204%20Bn%20by%202030.
https://www.futurewiseresearch.com/healthcare-market-research/Endometriosis-Treatment-Market/8911
Looking at possibly getting in...
anything I should know.the cliff notes version.
Also Clay trader videos, if not mistaken from another stock I was in at 1 point, usually the price goes down right after he posts?
Starting to do some research though on this
I will give you that. :)
Just not likely looking at the schedule and the timeframe this is moving along.
Opposition to Dispositive motions/Daubert motions due September 10, 2021. Reply briefs in support of Dispositive motions/Daubert motions due September 24, 2021. Hearing on dispositive motions/Daubert hearing TBD. Final Election deadlines and Final Pretrial Conference TBD.
Updated schedule moved that up though, to Dispositive Motions and Daubert Motions by 6/17/21.
Opposition to Dispositive Motions and Daubert Motions by 7/15/21.
Reply Briefs in Support of Dispositive and Daubert Motions by 7/29/21. (Hourihan, Lisa) (Entered: 01/07/2021)
so 7-29 is last actual date. But there is still a possible hearing and final pre trial conference, which would not be done before end of Sept.
That is why Mid Sept won't happen as per calendar.