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LET GO??
THAT'S FUNNY!!!
As I stated many times I signed an independent contractors agreement and e-mailed it directly to Clayton who e-mailed the blanks to me.
Two months later I still didn't have a signed contract back from the company.
If they are too busy to take care of every day personnel business I would like to ask this question.
WHAT DO THEY DO ALL DAY?
No sales force 8 months after the pr that the company was putting a sales force together.
Three months after announcing negotiations with a 1000 unit day care facility the deal is still not closed.
The divy screw up was 6 million shares. The float mysteriously goes from 9 million to 26 million. The company dilutes the stock in the neighborhood of 11 million shares.
btw what happened to the Rear Admiral's Pentagon appointment?? It was originally scheduled for September then pushed back to November. Question is now DID IT EVER HAPPEN?? PROBABLY NOT!!!
THE ONLY PERSONS QUALIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE QUESTIONED HERE IS A LYING, DILUTING, PIG OF A CEO
YOU WONDER WHY THE STOCK IS TRADING SUB PENNY. WELL I GOT NEWS FOR ALL SHAREHOLDERS:
TRIP ZERO'S ARE NEXT....0009,0008,0007,0006,0005 OR LOWER
PROVE ME WRONG CLAYTON
I don't think I am bashing. I am just stating facts and asking questions.
As a shareholder I deserve answers to some of the points I have raised as do the shareholders who are stuck since some bought in between .02 and .10
CLAYTON NEEDS TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AS TO WHY THINGS JUST DON'T ADD UP WITH THIS COMPANY!!
IMHO the patent PR was big time fluff. What are they going to patent? Cameras that they are buying from China?? I've also searched the US Patent site for the same names you mentioned and a big fat ZERO!!!!!
Applications are entered into the data base as soon as they are received.
MORE EXPLAINING THAT CLAYTON NEEDS TO DO!!!
He won't be selling. He will be running a sales force. IMHO he is nowhere near qualified.
There was never any doubt that SNV could be a real business. All they have to do is get off their duffs and sell it.
I posted some potential revenues a few months ago based on minimal selling by a qualified sales force.
Unfortuantely, it's difficult to find a qualified sales force when the guy running sales is a former used car salesman.
So Basically we can conclude how much dilution actually occured recently.
Claimed Float was 9 million shares
Admitted Divy Error 6 million shares
Claimed Float Now 26 million shares
Dilution 11 million shares
Most of this dilution had to have occured between .008 and .01 which means he raised somewhere between $88,000 and $110,000 in capital for the company.
Wouldn't it have been much easier to tap into the $20 million line of credit to keep his credibility.
I was not offered any shares to join the sales force but I can't speak for the other people who joined.
SMART MAN.....UDHC is my last pinky holding ever!!!!
I just hope clayton redeems himself for all those that bought in between .02 and .10
I would buy a few hundred thousand or even a million if clayton would pr some follow ups. For example:
1. Tell the truth about the divvy screw up (it's very obvious he knows exactly what's up with it) This would allow him to explain why the float went from 9 million to over 26 million.
2. Update the status of the Bright Beginnings deal. If it's even still on the table.
3. Explain why it has taken 8 months to get a sales force put together
4. Tell the truth about the $20 million line of credit that was originally from the stores (it's obvious due to the credit markets that it was not transferred to SNV for the same amount)
5. Explain why he diluted the stock recently rather than use the line of credit he claims is available.
6. Update the status of the patents applied for
7. Release some info on Bob Beverly's status with the company
8. Just be honest and tell the world the reason he bought SNV is because he was one of the original investors and he got a lot of his friends to buy in and now he is trying to salvage his reputation with them.
9. Tell us what the Rear Admiral has been up to. The Admiral might not even be around anymore since the 2 million shares clayton gave him are worth about $10,000. Oh by the way were those shares restricted or were they free trading.
10. Were any shares given to Mike Adler and the rest of the crew and were they restricted or free trading. maybe this could explain some of the float difference. Cause the divvy screw up was apparently only responsible for about 6 million.
CLAYTON HAS LOTS TO EXPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bright Beginnings is supposedly the 1000 unit chain they have been working on
If he wanted to start with just the states he mentioned then he should have stuck to that from day one and told me Florida wasn't in the plans until after they got those states covered first.
What I find funniest is the PR was put out April 29 and here we are eight months later without a single sale. Not only did he call Boston a state but the PR was put out with the New Name but the Old Symbol. WOW I USED TO BELIEVE THIS GUY?? SHAME ON ME!!!!
Here is that PR:
Apr 29, 2008 09:02 ET
Ulysses Diversified Holdings Corp. to Accelerate Its SecureNetView Subsidiary Growth Plans and Revenues
JACKSONVILLE, NY--(Marketwire - April 29, 2008) - Ulysses Diversified Holdings Corp. (PINKSHEETS: UHCR) today announced that it will immediately accelerate its growth plans and revenues for its SecureNetView subsidiary through the licensing of its systems and technology.
Management will select qualified applicants to become Master Licensees in ten major eastern States, to start the applicants will need to demonstrate the financial resources, personal and time in business and either be in the security field and/or an electronic monitoring type operation.
The company has identified the first ten eastern States to start; they will be New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Boston, Connecticut, Maryland, Virginia, Delaware and Rhode Island.
SecureNetView has chosen these starting States as they are within Ulysses Diversified Holdings base of operations area. The Company will immediately embark on an aggressive marketing campaign in these States through trade publications, trade associations and marketing professionals to locate and sign up the new licensees immediately.
The Company's projections on average are One Million Dollars per year per State to SecureNetView in revenues in addition to existing current revenues.
Thank you for confirming everything I have said.
It will be a very easy sell once everything is in place. If it ever gets in place. Hopefully it will.
No that is not right. I have no desires to have Mike's job. Besides every sales job I have ever had I have always made more money than the Vice President of Sales for the company. Commissioned sales is the only way to make a living.
They never got back to me because the guy running sales is no more than a used car salesman.
He is a BS artist just like Clayton. Birds of a feather flock together.
They have an incredible opportunity to make Kinderview something HUGE. Now they just need to get off their duffs and create some sales.
Ask them what is holding up the 1000 unit day care company. That deal should have been closed three months ago. If they haven't announced anything about it yet it's because they probably lost it. Clayton will say something like "we didn't want to put all our eggs in one basket". That is TOTAL BS. It's better to have all your eggs in one basket for a short period of time than to have NO EGGS AT ALL!!!!
THESE GUYS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE SALES SO NO SALES WILL EVER HAPPEN UNTIL SOME SERIOUS CHANGES ARE MADE WITH THE GUY RUNNING SALES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well if that were the case Mike Adler wouldn't have been in constant communication with me up until a few days ago.
And if they didn't want me it's their loss. As I stated before I had business lined up and ready to go. Even though they were sitting around doing very little I was already making calls to the 11,000 leads I have for the State of Florida.
I am a self starter and didn't really need any training. Now I have to call these people back and tell them I can't deliver. Egg on the company's face not mine.
I hope you've had the opportunity to chat with Mike Adler. If you have you will see what I am saying.
Incorrect....I NEVER WAS AN EMPLOYEE
I WAS SENT AN INDEPENDENDENT CONTRACTORS CONTRACT
I SIGNED IT AND E-MAILED IT TO THE COMPANY
THE COMPANY NEVER SENT ME A SIGNED COPY BACK
THE COMPANY ASKED ME TO STOP POSTING HERE. I ASKED TO BE BANNED SO I COULD NOT POST.
NOTHING EVER MATERIALIZED FROM THE GUY IN CHARGE OF SALES. IMHO WITH HIM RUNNING SALES NO SALES WILL EVER HAPPEN
I AM NOT BASHING THE COMPANY I AM TELLING IT THE WAY THINGS HAPPENED
I STILL OWN SHARES SO I'D RATHER SEE IT GO UP THAN DOWN
BUT WITH THE LACK OF CREDIBILITY ON THE PART OF THE CEO, THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, THE LACK OF FOLLOW UP ON PAST PR'S AND THE LACK OF SALES THE UPSIDE POTENTIAL I SPOKE OF IN THE PAST IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WAITING TO BAIL OUT BETWEEN .02 AND .06
SO ANY FUTURE RUNS WILL BE STALLED BY THOSE TRYING TO PRESERVE WHATEVER CAPITAL THEY CAN POSSIBLY PRESERVE!!!!
COME ON CLAYTON DO SOMETHING AND PROVE ME WRONG!!!
I would not buy any UDHC knowing what we have seen here since May.
I do not believe in averaging down at all. If I buy a stock that drops more than 25% I either sell and take my loss or just put it on the back burner and let it ride until I either break even or it goes down more. Once I have a 50% loss I sell no matter what.
He may have never stopped it but it never got started. There are at least 3 other posters that read this board who were part of the original 25. I wish some of you would step forward and set the record straight.
First, no I won't post my resume here. I have over 20 years of sales experience in multiple industries so I was quite qualified.
I live in Florida, born in Cali
As for clayton I will just wait for things to materialize with UDHC.
Lies are something I do not expect from anyone calling themselves a ceo. But apparently they do it at all levels now. So this ceo now has to prove his worth to me.
to buy 13,700,000 shares would cost $109,600 at the current ask. Sorry I would never put that kind of money into a pink sheet stock.
Besides don't you have to control 51% of the AS? That would be 51,000,000 shares NO THANKS
the only way to own more than clayton would be to buy up the entire float IMHO
I would rather take $109,600 and go to Santa Anita.
your assesment is pretty accurate
SOMETHING IS JUST NOT ADDING UP HERE
I wish I could put my finger on it. What was it you said? Oh scam or idiot ceo......hmmm it's got to be one or the other.
THE QUESTION NOW IS WHICH ONE IS IT.
By looking at past pr's one can come to the conclusion that both are appropriate.
So I guess we could come to A third conclusion that "UDHC is a scam being run by an idiot"
DOES THAT SEEM A LITTLE TOO HARSH??
I have stated many times that the ceo is a nice guy and an honorable man but I have also stated many times that something here just does not add up.
I guess I'll just keep going in circles until Clayton proves otherwise because at this point in time he is the only person that can.
I guess I have to agree with you there. Many of these pinkies announce revenues that do not exist.
No bitterness here. If I had lost money or was down (like many here) due to the lies of the ceo I might be bitter. I'm not even bitter about being strung along about a potential sales job that never materialized.
I do feel bad for those that bought in for the potential moass, the eyeglass stores business plan and the stories told by the ceo.
Many shareholders here have good reason to be bitter. I am not one of them, fortunately for me.
Clayton can redeem himself a number of ways:
1. by being more transparent
2. by following up on past pr's that were never followed thru on
3. by proving the doubters wrong by announcing some real SNV revenues
ok it must not work properly with Firefox. I tried it with Internet Explorer and it works fine.
Looks like the tech guys need to address that
Somebody better shovel the snow so the store can open
The outside camera reminds me of why I moved to Florida
those seem not to be working properly either
is it me or is no image showing up except for two small thumbnails of the inside and outside cameras??
what savings? Sales force is 100% commission. He hasn't saved any money but he did lose potential sales. I had business lined up and ready to go.
maybe no money to pay for it??
or maybe shut down by State of NY after Capt Jim's complaint??
but Berlin finally being finalized should push it way past that 0046 mark it was never able to break thru previously
from where the pps is now that is a 10 bagger
LLEG will be an easy 10 bagger from here once it happens maybe more
this good news certainly is not reflected in the current pps
I never thought I would see such a bargain
I don't own any to sell but have been waiting to see if this will ever materialize into a real utility company. I guess it's not looking good??
No I never told any lies the ceo told all the lies and I just relayed his lies........ooops for me
as for mr samplescave he knows he is not allowed to respond to my messages and i am not allowed to respond to his per matt
Did the Berlin deal ever get closed?
Did Ellicotville ever get settled?
I guess we can only speculate as to whether I was ever hired or not but for now that is a moot point.
I won't bash and I won't pump I'll just call it like I see it like a good umpire.
I understand the reason Clayton bought SNV is because he was one of the original investors who also got a lot of his friends to buy in. He is trying to make up to them for the bad investment he got them into.
My question is this: If SNV was such a bad investment then what makes it a good investment now??
Apparently Clayton had a lot of his own money tied up in SNV so he stands to lose more than anyone here.
THAT IS WHY HIS LACK OF TRANSPARENCY BOTHERS ME!!!
I might have misposted on that. The number of cameras was somewhere near 12,000 but they were not in the SNV warehouse. They were actually in the manufacturers warehouse but SNV could get as many as they needed within a few days.
With all due respect I am not bashing. I am just telling it like it is. Some is speculation but that is all we have since we have a non transparent ceo.
A little communication goes a long way. I guess he is just moody since some weeks he takes all calls but then disappears for a month and takes no calls at times.
since you seem to be the only shareholder he talks to now ask clayton if that credit line is still $20 million
I'll bet my shares to your shares it isn't anywhere near that now
If it was and he had faith in the product and service he would have bought a lot of cameras so the sales force could have got the job done
AGAIN SOMETHING IS JUST NOT ADDING UP HERE!!!
as I said there was a training call and nothing else after that
nothing ever materialized by the guy running sales so if there are no trained sales reps how will any sales ever materialize?
Well said......Communication is key
What I find funny is how from one side of his mouth he says he is trying to build a successful business to make shareholders money. Then from the other side of his mouth he tells those who are unhappy with the current pps to sell and move on.
As has been the case for the past few months something just does not add up here.