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That's all I want right now. The answer to that one question....Oh...and my thermos and that's all I want. From someone who knows.
They put out a big PR about it...so it must have been a big deal to them. Everyone here was excited...people going by and asking the workers...big discussion on if they had leased 1 floor or 2 floors...remember the real estate company was supposed to be in the other offices?
Someone please answer this one question.
Why can't they put out a PR as to why they have not moved into the new offices? Simple. The only thing we have heard....is that someone said....that Tim said...that someone told him it was permits.
They put out the original PR that they would be in around March 31st. 3 months ago. They put out the PR....not me.
What is the big deal about just telling us there is a problem?
Tim has had many questions on this. It's no big trade secret. It's not earth shattering news. Just follow up on the original PR that was put out in March. Is that such a big deal? If they can't even follow up on there own timetable and their own PR.....that worries me.
What happened to all the people here that were stopping by the office and checking? Can't someone just swing by the office and see if anyone is there?
I'll overlook coding....etc....for just the simple answer to this one question.
You call and ask Tim...surley he asks them what's going on....and no one can answer that one simple question?
re-al-i-ty, n. 1.the quality or fact of being real.
2. a person or thing that is real.
I guess ignoring someone and not even listening to anyone elses views or opinions is good. Wait...I'll need to look up the word for someone who will only listen to the positive and not even look at the other side.
I guess listening to and weighing both sides is wrong.
Granted...his style sucks. But he does make valid points.
FRESNO STATE WINS!!!!!!
Fresno State wins college world series. Thanks for the support Tiger, Briguy....well..someone had to root for Georgia.
ROFLMAO!!!!
Briguy31...I could not have said it better!!
Rocketman and Islandtime...
How do you "know" they are working their butts off trying to bring a product to market. When I make a comment....I get my butt chewed if I don't add "IMHO" or cite a source for my comments.. What source do you refer to that you "know" Ted is working his butt off?
Blindly supporting a stock...making comments like they have "pulled a rabbit out of the hat many times" and totally ignoring that the SEC investigation is on-going. Trying to make excuses for the money and stock awards they are receiving....with absolutely no proof to us...the shareholders...they have done anything to earn the above is no different than some of the dissenting views here.
Show me one tangible shred of evidence that things are progressing and I'll shut up. I see tons of money going out...but nothing coming in. They can't even move into a new office building in almost 3 months
Show me where it says that the stock that is being sold is going back into the company????? Show me where anyone has said they are using it for day to day operations and not to cover the lease on their new Mercedes. It works both ways gentleman. If a dissenting view requires proof...so does the statements you are making.
You can see all insider info. here.
http://www.form4oracle.com/company?cik=0001335002&ticker=EXBX.PK
Form 4 filed last night.
1. Name and Address of Reporting Person* Copeland Scott R
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(Last) (First) (Middle)
2121 SAGE ROAD
SUITE 200
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(Street)HOUSTON TX 77056
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(City) (State) (Zip)
2. Issuer Name and Ticker or Trading Symbol
Exobox Technologies Corp. [ EXBX ] 5. Relationship of Reporting Person(s) to Issuer
(Check all applicable)X Director X 10% Owner
X Officer (give title below) Other (specify below)
Executive Vice President
3. Date of Earliest Transaction (Month/Day/Year)
06/19/2008
4. If Amendment, Date of Original Filed (Month/Day/Year)
6. Individual or Joint/Group Filing (Check Applicable Line) X Form filed by One Reporting Person
Form filed by More than One Reporting Person
Table I - Non-Derivative Securities Acquired, Disposed of, or Beneficially Owned
1. Title of Security (Instr. 3) 2. Transaction Date (Month/Day/Year) 2A. Deemed Execution Date, if any (Month/Day/Year) 3. Transaction Code (Instr. 8) 4. Securities Acquired (A) or Disposed Of (D) (Instr. 3, 4 and 5) 5. Amount of Securities Beneficially Owned Following Reported Transaction(s) (Instr. 3 and 4) 6. Ownership Form: Direct (D) or Indirect (I) (Instr. 4) 7. Nature of Indirect Beneficial Ownership (Instr. 4)
Code V Amount (A) or (D) Price
Common Stock 06/19/2008 S 33,879 D $0.24 80,452,054 D
Table II - Derivative Securities Acquired, Disposed of, or Beneficially Owned
Tim's reply to the 211.
I had asked about the conditions put on the application from FINRA.
Mark,
I had received that post and sent it on to the company for review! Last I heard the 15c211 is open.
Regards
Tim Lee
Brief reply from Tim.
Hello Mark,
I believe the serious positive occurrences happening he was talking about, would be that Ted Ernst had settled in and had been working for a couple of weeks as Chief Tech Officer!
Regards
Tim Lee
Investor Relations
Exobox Technologies Corp.
541 832 2888
1 800 460 8887
tslee@gotsky.com
I hope everyone here tonight,
can see.....that we are all real people. Although we talk in cyberspace...and no faces can be put to names....we are real people....investing our real, hard earned money. Some, more than they should. Some...just pocket money. None the less....we are all in this together.
Please, post only what you know......and if not...seek out the real answers.
I will call Tim tomorrow and report back as to what I find out.
The whole thing boils down to....all we want to know is what is going on....and what we can expect.
GLTA.
Sorry Kei,
I'm sorry I used you as an example. I know that was a very tough time for you. I'm glad you are still monitoring the board. I wish you all the luck in the world.
Well said Seeker.
Especially about we all have different trust...etc.
Just because we question....and try to do it in a constructive manor....does not mean we don't "still believe".
Just let us know what is going on Mr. Dillon. We still believe.
Let me try to explain my position.
First, I've been around penny stocks and message boards for a few years. I've seen the worst...and I've seen a few...very few...that were on the up and up.
There are people that read these message boards and make their stock buying decisions totally based on what they read here. With all due respect, KEI...is a good example. She has stated that she took money out of her parents bank account and bought this stock based solely on what people post here. She also went on to say she was very, very worried that she had lost her parents money. I can only imagine....knowing very little about japanese honor and respect toward their parents...and what she said that...her post was very straight forward and sad. If it was me....that would be a big burden on my shoulders if I was a pumper.
We are all big kids here. It's our money and our decision....with no one to blame but ourselves.
However, when someone asks a question...or doubts some statements that are made here......and are chastised for same....that bothers me. Kei is heavily invested in this stock for no other reason than what the positive posters have said here. I don't think that everyone here doesn't have their doubts. Come on people....we are all looking for the one...big...."get rich quick" stock. We wouldn't be here if that wasn't the case.
But please....don't just blindly follow what the EXBX people are saying. All stocks are a risk. Penny stocks being like 1000 times as risky. We have a chance to make a fortune. More realistically....we have a chance of losing all our money. Just think of people like Kei before you blindly support this stock....when there are questions that need to be answered. If management cared about us....the shareholders...they would have informed us of what is going on.
I'm not a basher. I'm not a pumper.
Island...Thornton...think before you post. There are real people....with real money investing based on your posts. Damn...thats got to be a load on your shoulders.
EXBX has kept us informed....up until the last couple months.
Be careful.
Let's not forget that management made a big deal about taking no salary's...etc. And now....it looks like that might not be the case.
If it looks too good to be true....it usually is.
Doodle...I don't have the premium
service so can't respond privately. I will do as you suggested. Thanks.
Thanks Shawn.
I have the quote from Eagle.
Now someone give me the phone number for Tim. We can get to the bottom of this. I'm still looking for the 2nd person that quoted the same call with Tim as Eagle did.
As I said Thornton...
I wasn't sure if it was you or not. So climb down off of your high horse. Also...you know as well as I do that the quote you posted is not the one I am talking about.
2 people talked to Tim...Eagle for sure and one other. I cannot find either post. Coincidence?????
I'll call Tim tomorrow.
Someone give me the phone number. If someone can find the original post that Eagle made concerning what Tim said...let me now. I can't find it. I will call Tim...read him Eagle's post....and ask him what he meant by it.
I can't find either post and I went clear back to late May. Let's see what Tim has to say...but I need the original post to ask him if that is what he said. A little help here.
Islandtime....I think the person who should call Tim,
since Eagle seems to not be around right now....should be the other person that reported the identical conversation with Tim. I have searched back through the posts...and can't find who said that. Since Thornton's posts were deleted due to IHUB jail...I think he was the one that reported it. Correct me if I am wrong Thornton. Thornton...if you were the one that reported you talked to Tim and what he said....and it was the same he told Eagle...call him and find out why things didn't come true as you reported.
IMHO about Eagle....
Strictly my opinion. Some here have asked "what happened to Eagle." I have known Eagle for quite some time. When he is involved with a stock he believes in....he is usually very, very positive. Not a pumper....but very, very encouraging. My opinion as to why he hasn't posted? He did apologize for becoming a little too over-zealous for his comments a few days ago about what Tim said. I am sure he was also embarassed about coming out so strongly, and then nothing happened. Brings up too many memories of other stocks. Unlike the other poster that posted the same info has not said a word or apologized.
Why have neither of you called Tim and asked for an explanation of what he said? I could call or write...but only the 2 individuals he spoke to can shed light on what was said and why it was said and then nothing happened. The 2 of you posted some info. that something was going to happen within 24 hours. And nothing happened. If it was me...I would be very upset with Tim for giving me this info. If I remember correctly one frequent poster here ever hinted that Tim would never give out the info that was reported.
I have said before...I still think this stock has a chance...however, to blindly support it...with no questions asked....there seems to be a problem.
Geezzz...at a nickle a post...I earned my money.
This PR generated a lot of talk on this board. Am I the only one that remembers?
A lot of people here said that "the SEC case" must be behind us. Then everyone started talking about it like it was a fact....becuase of the following PR. We can only move to a "higher exchange" if the SEC shadow has been lifted.
EXBX releases the 10Q on April 30th admitting that the SEC case is still on going. ISLANDTIME...another "red flag". They knew this was still on-going. Yet they release a PR on March 31st.
I am still dialed in on the end result of this stock. Soooo...no "if you don't like it...why don't you sell" responses. However, I am also not just "blindly," as some here are....supporting everything that has happened lately. You say...."Hey, they report...file all kinds of forms...etc." Yet...they give us no info...no updates.
This release is almost 3 months old...with no "follow-up".
Press Release Source: Exobox Technologies Corp.
Exobox Continues Its Efforts to Become Quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board(R) as Authorized Market Maker Files Form 211 with FINRA
Monday March 31, 10:00 am ET
HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--On Friday, March 28, 2008, an authorized market maker filed a Form 211 with the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA), formerly the NASD, to initiate quotations of Exobox Technologies Corp. (Pink Sheets:EXBX - News) common stock on the OTC Bulletin Board®.
OK...I lied. One more thing.
What has it been? 2 weeks since Tim talked to Eagle and he posted "Big things coming tomorrow". I also believe Thornton (correct me if wrong, or another member) called and talked to Tim with the exact same message. Absolutlely nothing has been put out by EXBX.
I have been involved in pennies for years also. You say there have been no red flags???? That is a big one in my opinion. I have seen that happen on many pennies. Big things tomorrow...next week....next month....always with no explanation as to what happened or more importantly didn't happen. I don't see how anyone here can deny that false info was put out by Tim. Eagle or Thornton would not make up the phone call to Tim.
If this isn't a red flag to you...It sure is to me.
I'm going to say one thing..
Then I will shut up.
Islandtime...you say....people are getting down because things are not progressing as fast as "some of us" want.
Dead wrong. I am getting down because of one thing...and one thing only. "Things are not progressing as the TEAM told us they would." Not becuase it's going as fast as "I" would like.
Move into the new offices March 31st. Coding starting. (we have no proof it is). The PR about moving to another exchange when the team knows full well the SEC thing is not behind us. (as per the April 30th 10Q).
Not one of those things has anything to do with how fast "I" wish they would move. For probably the 20th time...these were deadlines and dates set by EXBX...not me. They have not been met....and more importantly...we have been given no explanation. If they put out a PR....then miss the due date..by many months on some...then give us absolutely no explanation.....That is what I am upset about.
Sorry...that was a very long "one thing".
You say you are not pumping??? Probably the same as "I am not bashing".
YES....YES...FS 6 UNC 1
Bring on Georgia!
FRESNO STATE 6 UNC 1....Bottom of the 8th
3 more outs...then the Bulldogs VS. the Bulldogs.
Amen Braden!
Raven Moon is a good example. I had 500,000 shares a couple of years ago...now I have less than 1 share due to R/S.
An R/S does not have to be announced ahead of time. You go to bed at night owning 100,000 shares....they do a 1 for 100 R/S and you wake up with 1,000 shares. Of course the price goes up 100 times also...at least for the first couple of hours of trading then it's down, down ..down.
OK...Tiger,
You promised to root for my bulldogs. Don't let me down.
Go Fresno State.
Gin728...if you have been monitoring this board
for a long time....why was your name/alias just created today?
How were you doing that if you just joined today????
Fresno State plays the LSU/NC winner.
Wanna bet a couple thousand shares of EXBX Tiger?
As a UC Davis Aggie.....
I have to say "Go Fresno State Bulldogs...if we're talking about the same thing!.
Pottersfield...please don't include
me in your rants and ravings. I don't agree with your posts either. There is a way to do things and a way not to do things. It's not so much the content but the way you present it. I'm not very good at that myself and have had my butt chewed on occasion. I guess my question to you would be that your name/alias was only made up a week ago and you act like you have been around for years. Have you posted here in the past under a different name?
Good luck to you.
Thank you ag729.
I appreciate that.
The IHUB trades show normal trades.
click on the link at the very bottom of post and put in EXBX.
Now it doesn't show it. If you notice it starts at trade number 12.
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=trades&cb=1204564071&symbol=NO^EXBX&java_vm=sun&java_vm_ver=1.6.0_03&fp=9.0.115
I am sure Ted was hired to oversee the coding. In the PR that said they would move into the new offices on March 31st also said they could then hire the coders. Alot of people here have assumed and speculated that coding has started. It may have started after April 31st...but with no expenses it couldn't have started prior to that as a lot assumed.
There's an old saying that goes something like this "When a person asks a question there are probably 10 other people that want to ask the same question". Judging from the PM's I've recieved that's true and all have been positive.
I'm not bashing. Just asking some hard questions.
The following are directly from the 10Q. I take back my correction of may vs. will.
"We will need to raise additional funds to fund product development."
(No "may" there.)
"We anticipate that we will need additional capital in excess of $5,000,000 to continue to fund and expand our"
(no "may" there)
"The Company had no research and development expenses for the three and nine months ended April 30, 2008 and 2007"
(If they have no expenses through April 30th. How could coding have started).
." As of April 30, 2008, the Company had working capital of $1,208,638. As of April 30, 2007, the Company's working capital deficit was $2,356,186. During the period from July 31, 2007 through April 30, 2008, the Company's working capital increased by $4,953,579."
(if the working captal increased to 4.9 million and they have 1.2 million left...where did the 3.7 million go?)
"Additional capital may dilute current stockholders."
(there's a "may".)
I stand corrected..
on the 1.5 million vs. 1.6 million. Also the "may" vs. will.
As I stated...another poster made the comment about the 6.3 million shares to Ted and asked if it was true.
Posted by "ifitlookstoogood": "On May 16th. 2008 a total of 6,397,137 shares @$.27 per share were redirected; it has not been disclosed yet, To Ted Ernst as compensation to join EXBX."
Like I said...I asked if this was correct.
And before you guys chew my butt off..
I'm old...so I don't have much of one left. If you guys chew on me too much...I won't be able to sit down.
I am not questioning what they are doing...I am questioning a PR that was put out and said they would move (approx) March 31st. Let's not forget that we are all part owners of this company and management owes us explanations...when they don't live up to the PR's they put out. Especially when it has been 2 and a half months...since they put out the PR with absolutely no explanation. Another reason I bought this stock was because of all the PR's and 8k's that were putting out. They seemed on the up and up. The PR's have ceased. With no explanation as to why. Just speculation.
I'm sorry I don't see a silver lining in every PR...or the lack of PR's. "Fool me once...shame on you"..etc. etc...
I definately earned my nickle on each of these posts.
Asking tough questions. Not being as enthusiastic as some. Being a little skeptical. And not just going along with what management says....should not label you as a basher. Having differing opinions adds to the DD. All I have asked is why aren't we in the new offices and do we know for a FACT...if coding has started.
Some say permits are the problem. That came from Tim...the same individual that told 2 members big things were coming a week ago.
I understand about the "safe harbor". However...there were things in there (which I might add has not generated much discussion)that I have not seen in other 10Q's.
They come right out and say that they will need to authorize more shares to keep going. One of the big reasons I bought this stock was because of the low O/S. (ah-oh...do I dare use the dreaded word "dilution"? They say right in there that additional funds are needed for coding.
Also they had over 4 million....now down to 1.5 million in cash. Where did the rest go. Again (for imagunna)...IMHO..is it correct that Ted was paid in excess of 6 million shares as another poster said. That's over 1.5 million dollars. Hundreds of thousands for an advertising company which we haven't heard another word from. (let's not forget the contract was for 6 months). refer to a previous post of mine that contains the disclaimer and amount we paid).
I haven't been in as long as some here. I bought about a year ago. ON THE ADVICE OF THREE GENTLEMAN (and I use the term loosely) that post here. I was told at that time that big things were coming last October. Excuse me if it's now 9 months later...and we can't even move into new offices...and the share price is half of what it was then.
Management owes us an explanation as to why they are 10 weeks late moving...and if coding has started. The 10q says nothing was spent on developement cost...and it also says more money is needed to start coding. (refer to 10Q imagunna).
So...ag729...bashers stating false things...yes...people who differ in opinion no.
By the way...i'm in ag too...if that is what your name suggests.
Sorry guys. There are a lot of questions left unanswered. I was led down the garden path by another CEO with great promises and lost 6 figures. I'm not gonna let it happen again.
Sorry...RR....just can't stop the elipsises.