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Sorry I'm new. I had minor stroke a few years ago when I was like 34. (I went to school for business, but it's been 15 years since I've read some business definitions.) Thanks for the help. I got excited about remembering some of the stuff I went to college for. (I was thinking that the revenues were profits. Sorry.)
Sorry I'm new. I had minor stroke a few years ago when I was like 34. (I went to school for business, but it's been 15 years since I've read some business definitions.) Thanks for the help. I got excited about remembering some of the stuff I went to college for. (I was thinking that the revenues were profits. Sorry.)
A P/E Of 1 is like crazy talk around here. (no offense.LOL) (IT'S GOING TO TRADE AT A P/E OF OVER 10!!!!!!!) BECAUSE. The market is trading around a P/E of 10. (Pennies seem to follow the market up.) (With room to grow and it being a spec stock, it could trade around a P/E 30 for awhile when and if the market fully recovers.
I think it's just a matter of some investors seeing some more numbers in the books.(By the end of this summer, the stock should running right to (About)P/E of ten.(maybe more if they get some good housing numbers.)
I think Billy's the man that can do it.
Their advertisements look incredible compared to some companies.
Will they be able to use the stores from AMSZ in FL to advertise for the Organic Plant Health stuff? (FL is a huge market.)I also heard something on (IHUB) about them getting into CA.
I think a P/E of (ten) for the earnings of 2,000,000 is .133 cents a share with them planning 30 to like 40 more stores this could blow close to .50 cents share maybe higher.
I'll go back and figure it out again. I took .0034 and times it by 150,000,000 to figure out what it is trading at.(510,000) is what they shares are worth. So right now it's trading at like a .25 P/E
20,000,000.00 million dollars for the P/E of ten should be like .1333 cents a share.
I'm sorta asking for help in figuring this.
Is .1333 cents a share right for the P/E of ten?
The stock might start running before the snow melts. I'll bet they have some new stores waiting to open in the spring?
I'm not an expert , but penny stocks usually follow the market up, once the market get's going. (Somethings with no news (on pennies) at all. They will just go up with the market. (The BIG people will make some money on the bread and butter stocks) and then put some on speculation stocks.
AMSZ (Organic Plant Health) has numbers and a huge market to grow into. It could trade at A HUGE P/E FOR AWHILE because of the expected growth. (market) (I think everybody should call Cramer on CNBC to have it put on the show. It's a large cap and they could maybe put it on there. (At least the staff could research it for the future.) If they put the company on the show it will help the whole planet. Mad money can only lose if they don't put it on the show. (Everybody like call the number. i think it is(1-800-CNBC.)to have a stock put on the show. I forget for sure.
With the economy sorta getting better and them making money with organics when the Economy was bad is way cool. For everybody. AMSZ is helping the planet and like everybody.(atmosphere) Huge
I think Billy's radio show is going to help big time.
Why would anybody sell AMSZ? It's like a way buy and hold for 6 months to see them post some numbers. (If you risk trading it you could miss out on some big money.) (Way try to scalp everybody shorting it.)
Thank you for post about the sec stuff.
Jenna
Why do think that Stephen is applying to sell shares?
Agree about that. That's just how Wally is.
I emailed Wally and talked to him on the phone around the 18th. I don't send Guyer emails everyday.
Wally is totally against the mill being where it is at and his concern is the snow in the winter and like water runoff that could get into the ponds.
What information I'm I giving Wally?
It might cheaper to cut trench to move the river up the Mountain some then to put up with Wally. They could use the dirt removed from the trench as a barrier to help with the concern of 10 ft snow sliding down the Mountain into the ponds?
You might try calling and talking to Wally.
The idea's better they paying money for barrier. They should have some equipment there to dig a trench for a few hundred ft. There a mining company.
I think Guyer and Rice can raise the money to do all of the upgrades on the mill. Last I remember they have a billion dollars of gold in the ground in CA, plus some more gold in CO and like South America.
Just read the title of Guyer's book. (The people that they have joint ventures with CGFIA will be helping to raise money also.)
(It's just a matter of time.) What's another million when you have a billion (1,000,000,000) (1%) Guyer should be able to raise the money with numbers like that. Maybe that's why Lee Rice and company picked him and why they agreed to pay him so much.
I don't think capital is the problem. just like some of you guy's are saying (just stuff they say in filings.)
(I would like to see them reroute the river up into the Mountain to deal with all concerns of tailings seeping into the river.)I don't want to email Stephen, Rice or Wally about it, but I think rerouting the river would be cheapest and best thing to do.
(Part of the Mountain could be the barrier.)
Does anybody know if they own the Mountain there and if so how much of the Mountain?
(I use to talk to Bruce that was doing their PR's.)
Bruce that use to do their PR's talked a lot about what they were doing. (He talked about the information that they released into the news about permits,samples and progress.)
Since Stephen took over PR he explain that he can't answer any questions because of the rules.
I was remembering back to talking to Bruce years ago.
To explain an earlier post.("I've been talking to management for four years.")
I also told Stephen about people on the broad posting possible Stephen Guyer replies. Once again it's best for everybody that he doesn't reply. By like the rules he can only release information in a way that everybody on the market can read at the same. 9I forget for sure.)
(You people are crazy to post anything that he might have said.)
Wally can talk more about the company. He said that CGFIA are the ones that have to file for another application to talk to the company. (I'm not trying to file for them,I think Wally is has some condition responses that he is giving people.
(ME, I'm bugging Wally a little bit.)Part of his job is to answer questions about the meeting that took place last month. He did his job. (THE COMPANT CAN'T TALK(RULES)) Also the reason why I called him was reading the broad here at Ihub. (It was best decision to call him to find out right from Wally's mouth.)
I'm not upset. If it reads that way.
I've talked to management at CGFIA for about four years now.
I've been long for about 4 years and I'm not selling. I hope I don't sink with the ship.
The Governor can't do anything about Wally Ericson doing his job (Protecting the Environment.)
My questions are being directed right at Wally until Wally mess's up. His concern is the tailings pond and they are going to have to be fixed for the mill to be approved. Wally knows more then the NEW Governor and the NEW Governor will listen to Wally because Wally knows more about(mining)then the NEW Governor.
The only reason I contacted Bill in Denver is because of the information that is out there about Wally being friends with Todd Hennis that he could have changed his position on the mill after Todd left the company. The governor can check into that.
I talked to Wally on the phone, to cut through everything being posted on here. (The tailings are his main concern.)
I later read the letter sent by Kelle Love about his property being next to the mill. I believe the neighbor's letter is ammo for him to do his job.(to make the best decision for the Environment.)
I hope(CGFIA)will like the idea of just loading up the tailings and using them as backfill, at a completely different location.
I did some research today on backfilling and they can pretty much just can find a low spot and start back filling. They might have to make a paste out of the tailings or maybe a cement to drop them in a hole.(Just one day of quick research.("I'm not an expert"))It could cost way to much to do that. Maybe someone on Ihub could refine the idea (That knows more) and forward it to Stephen and Lee at Cologold. They have property that is like 9 miles away. They could maybe delivery the tailings there to hold.
They might have to do that for a couple of years to raise money to make the mill a dry stack mill with like no ponds. Once again, Talking to Wally he seems to be totally against the ponds being where they are at. (They will more then likely will have to change the mill to a dry stack or some other new technology.) Just because.
(I believe they have a plan to get around the ponds and I'm trying to not to insult them by sending ideas that I've only research a few days.)Lee Rice has years of figuring this stuff out.I'm trying to be patient, but it's hard.
They pretty much are going to have raise a lot of capital to change the mill or spend the money to hull the tailings away from the site to get approved(some money is better then none.)
Can they just load the tailings up without them touching the ground there, to delivery to another location? (9 miles in a truck loaded is about $10.00 dollars plus wages.)
I don't know how many companies Mr. Guyer is involved in.
I'm not trading the stock, I've owned it for about 4 years and started buying at over .65 cent's a share. I have faith in management. I'm avg-ed in on it.
The company's posts about Peter Schiff have been a little insulting. Anybody that knows how to read a chart and can hear a single conservation on gold (On wall street) can tell that gold's going to 1,250 something. Merrill and the street want $1500.00 floor on gold, so watch for gold to get $1500.00 an oz. You don't have to be in the mining industry for a life-time to figure that out. For Lee to say 1250.00 an oz and to talk on Radio shows like a KID with a bon-er is a little upsetting. (Wall street wants a $1500.00 floor on Gold.)
I'm happy with Management don't get me wrong on that. Since the company has been formed (with samples and like everything),they have as a company seem to figure a little to the low side.
I'm glad that the company has happy management, they sound good on talk shows.
(I'm trying to be patient)
I researched Stephen Guyer. Your right he'll do everything to keep the cost down and TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE COMPANY. However he could be over looking the simplest idea because of him holding over 200,000,000 million shares, maybe being insulting for a little while is the answer.(They could maybe get it approved by not using the ponds at all and by making the companies handle the tailings on there property.)(Some income is better then none.)
I sent the message a different way then I posted it on Ihub. I had a conversation with Stephen telling him that it just makes me feel better sending a message to put my 2 cents in. I understand that he knows more then me about it and so does he.
I just sent Guyer an emailing with the idea of not using the ponds at all, to just load the tailings to backfill at a different location.
Why have the trucks deadhead?
They might not have to use the tailing ponds at all. What if they just ship all of the tailings away as soon as they mill the ore. When they start mining their mines they can ship it back to the sites with the trucks. It will cost a little bit more, but they will be in business.
It's real simple they can load an move the tailing to the mines that they are getting the ore from until the raise the capital to mine their own property. Plus when they mine their own mines they can move the ore back to the mines to backfill where they got the ore from. Why have the trucks deadhead?
South African concrete's the tailings in. The idea will allow CGFIA to make some capital to fix the ponds that they have. They might like the idea to get the ponds fixed. The company can make some money with the other companies dealing with the tailings. The trucks are already going back to the site to pick up more ore. (How much is a Belt system to load some debris/tailings.)
It could be more complex then just a belt system. I'm posting the idea because other people know more then me about mining on IHub. Maybe someone else can refine the idea to help.
Truck driver's don't like to dead head. (I use to drive doubles and triples out there.)
Odds are they will go right back to the mine that they came from in CO to pick up more ore. (a 10 ton truck can be filled up pretty quick with a mill pumping out 700 tons a day.) It's not a bandaid fix. (Back filling is standard mining practice in South Africa.)
Maybe some more people could submit the idea to Wally. They might not have to use the ponds at all for awhile. Just mill and convey tailings right back on to the delivery truck.
(It might not be that simple.)
Just think IF Wally likes the idea of the mining companies to hull the tailings back to their mines to back fill, they could maybe get the mill approved as soon as they can reapply. (Maybe they can convey the tailings right back on to a truck without them even touching the ground.That way they can make some capital to dry stack, or create a barrier for the ponds
I emailed Wally with the idea and asked him if he liked it to call CGFIA to help get things going. I sent(Stephen/CGFIA)a copy of the email that I sent to Wally.
I just submitted the idea of having the mining companies that rent the mill help with the removal of tailings. (They could have the trucks that deliver the ore take the tailings back to the mines to back fill.) That should work until they raise some capital to build a barrier or dry stacking area. We'll see. (I think that that will work.) (I'll email WALLEY.....)
It's best for the company that he doesn't answer. CGFIA has good management. It's real simple. Do ask him questions that he can't answer.(SEC Rules. Lots of people seem to be wasting his time/shareholders time by asking questions that he can't answer)Mr. Guyer is sorta close to putting every bodies butt on the line with some of his replies to shareholder's.
All it takes is one (fed) reading a reply that a shareholders could post wrong (posting and changing a reply some.) AND IT OPENS AN INVESTATION. (It could cost the company more time and money)
The companies knows the facts we the shareholders don't. I believe with MR. Guyer owning over 200,000 million that he is doing everything he can to get the mill/company up and going.
I found out that its best to call (right) to Wally Ericson and broad members to find out what is going on. (It's like part of their job to tell you.
I think it's best to call them and to leave Mr Guyer and Lee Rice alone to put a plan together. Lee Rice didn't get the Life-Time Achievement Award from the Mining Ass. for being STUPID.
I'm new to Ihub so I think that I'm out of posts for today.
(I can't reply to any response until like tomorrow or late tonight.)
The best answer's that have got about the whole thing, (about the mill) have come Walley Ericson. (They are going to have to do something about the ponds to make the broad happy.) The letter from Kelle Love and maybe some spillage into the river is the concern (The long and short of it.) (They going to have to fix the ponds so that nothing gets into the river like ever. That's MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WALLEY SAID TO ME ON THE PHONE. (NOT WHAT HE SAID.)
The company needs some investors to stop nickle and diming them. It's just a matter of time and capital and the mills approved.
They could reroute the river up into the Mountain for less the $200,000 and build a barrier for like a $500,000 (guess figures) What's another $500,000. When the the mill can make that in months.
Some investor's/banker's need to wake up. Get them another 2 million to get her done. Investor's/bankers's will get their money back NO problem.
Thank you for explaining.
I studied a few classes about Business Law in College, but can't stand reading the laws. I was thinking that Lee Rice getting the life time achievement might help them if they have to sell the company. (Friends maybe at Freeport or Kinross), I don't know who he is friends with (a guess) Thanks for the help. I'm not to much help about this, but I feel better posting my 2 cents. Seriously Thanks for posting.
Check out Google Earth Paradise lakes Ave in Georgetown FL If I hit it big with Cologold I'm sorta planning on buying the whole
Ave. there to start a fishing like resort.
I currently paying on 300 Georgetown Denver rd. that pulls up of www.zillow.com and Google earth. Just north of Paradise Lakes Ave. Like head quarters.
I told the governor in CO my plans and explained by the mill (not) being approve, that it's costing a lot people jobs like everywhere. (The mill affecting just one person invested in Cologold is costing maybe a lot of jobs in FL. Maybe that will help.
Wally Ericson also said on the phone that that still would not work that he was still was concerned about the ponds like having water in them for the winter. ( Something about being close to the river,I forget verbatim, but the good news was that it sounding like a new idea when he answered on the phone. I mentioned that they could drain off the (like) center pond to a hole for the winter so if any snow did fall the ponds would not spill in to the river. (The concern.)
They might be able to do (running the mill just in the summer)that until they raise some capital with the mill to do something better for the winter months.
I think that they will be able to raise the capital to get everything fixed. The mill will make a lot of money.
Patience. Also if the sell the company for just 12.5% of the 1 billion in the ground gold for the CA property that they have that's $125,000,000 million, like a .05 cents a share overnight.
Just the mill (With a big company owning them) with pay for the $125,000,000 in like 6 years once they get it going.(CGFIA should be like .05 cents in the bag.) If they can't sell the company for that something's wrong.
A big company should buy them even if they have to spend 50 million to just get the mill going. They will still pay for the mill in the less then 5 years. And that's with out mining any of the gold that's there in CO.
I hope Wally Ericson is smart enough to figure out that Kelley Love and Todd Hennis might be friends. (I think I read something about that on Ihub.I'm not 100% sure.)
I emailed the governor in CO about Wally Ericson approving the mill before and how he might be friends with Todd Hennis. I did not get a reply.
I've been buying CGFIA for like 4 fours now.
It's just a matter of time before the mill is open. With Cologold already having contracts investors should easily get them the money to get the mill going. (10 million is (nothing)because of the mill being able to make over 10 million a year. Remember the contracts that they have are only 20% of the mills output. Once the mill is going 100% might be something like (20 million) a year profit after cost (4 million profits at 20% output)and(20 million at 100% output) They should have funding
I submitted the idea of running the mill just in the summer so that they can make some money to upgrade the ponds. Some bitching was about the winter months and SNOW falling off the mountain into the ponds. Maybe the idea will help to get things going. Wally Ericson told me to submit the idea to Cologold because Cologld is the (one) that has to apply for the permit. (That's NOT verbatim) The idea might help.