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I think that's one of the misperceptions. Some folks look at this company as a play like so many OTC stocks. The core group of investors here are not here for a quick turn. We see how they are building the company brick by brick using a methodical, prior proven (Medistem) approach for success.
That's why they don't put out PR's for PR sake. It's why long term investors try and assist others to really do their DD and look at how they are setting up all the pieces on the chess board to have the greatest opportunity to win the game.
If you're looking for a quick hit stock to flip, this company is not for you. However, if you are an investor and willing to be patient, then there is a proven history of success + patents which have monetary value + successful trials (expensive to do) + procedure which meets FDA guidelines + respected management team that are very professional. Will it pan out. Like anything only time will tell. Patience is the key.
Well done Meat! I'm still acquiring at these very low prices. CELZ is on plan and that's all that matters.
Just like Animal House. TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!!
Shares locked and not going anywhere. CMTH/CELZ leadership is executing their plan and using the tools at their disposal to build the business properly. They have not over promised and under delivered to date and Medistem (Ichim/Gershman) is their blueprint so they know what needs to be done and how to do it. PR will come when they have something valuable to communicate.
Keep posting brother. You da man!
I don't know the answer but have a few thoughts. Regarding making money, they have just started. Only 1 doctor (Gershman) is performing procedures. Last 10Q I believe had revenue at $10k. So revenue is in it's infancy.
The revenue will come as the months proceed with doctors presently signing contracts. The AUA conference wrapped up only 2+ weeks ago. I would imagine each doctor is having the contracts reviewed by an attorney, they talk it over, negotiate with CMTH leadership and their attorney and so on. Getting a contract signed may take 2 weeks. Then they have to ship equipment to the contracted doctors, set up training in different cities across the country to then schedule procedures and make money.
I would imagine they'll release a PR on how that is proceeding in the next week or two. Their leadership has been methodical in their approach to communicating news. My estimate is once they have some valuable information, the PR will come.
As far as the OS, since revenue is just starting to trickle in, it's a tool to build the business. They are in a costly field (medical). Performing and paying for trials, patent procedures, equipment, trainings and creating awareness through marketing. I don't see they have legal counsel on staff so all of that is costly.
I may be incorrect but when revenue really starts coming in in the coming months, they will begin to reduce the OS, if needed. These are my observations/thoughts which may not help, but I would imagine other board members have their thoughts.
ES-You've had a chance to go down the path of explosive growth with POT* and maybe others. What are you seeing from your perspective that makes you confident CMTH/CELZ will surpass the others?
You mentioned these folks are colleagues in a prior post. Do you know for sure other doctors have actually signed contracts and will be performing procedures in the next few months?
I ask as you are very confident which is good. But any additional detail is helpful as some folks will flip millions of shares when it gets to $.03 thinking this may be it. We want to have folks stay long and become wealthy as you have eloquently stated prior. Anything that helps other longs get some additional perspective creates trust and with trust we can all ride this together and have an epic bash wherever you chose.
Thanks
CF
Appreciate all the efforts you and others put in. It's going to take a bit of time, but when this runs it's going to be awesome and definitely worth the time put forward. I'm on the west coast but hopefully come end of this year, we will all meet up somewhere and have a CELZ FORCE epic bash to celebrate.
I hope you get paid for all the time and effort you put into this board. Bless you, Billy and others for keeping things ticking.
I didn't anticipate a PR this week as they have so much work to get done with contract vetting, equipment, training, etc.,. If one comes this week, great. If not, we know they won't put it out until they have something to say and that will get things hopping.
Not sure how you guys feel but it's nice seeing the stock settle. Would like to have it settle for a couple of weeks around $.02 just to keep MM action limited and also keep flippers action down.
Just to clarify, when I spoke with Chris Fisher, I told him I would step aside for 90 days and see how they incorporate the things we discussed. That time is not up for 5 weeks so I want to honor my commitment and allow them that time to get things on track. That's why I rarely post.
You, Smokey and others have some great insight. It would be great for them to incorporate into the business as HLT/CannazALL is so undervalued.
I am going to keep to my commitment and in 5 weeks, see where we are at. Then take appropriate action.
Understand your frustration with management. The stock is lagging well behind it's peers. Since you don't have a vested interest currently in the company's success, why not limit your posts and let's see if they can get this ship on track. As you stated, you will re-invest. With not much effort, UBQU will be back to $.02 or above where it belongs. Enjoy the day!
CF
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SMM - Not sure why you post so often on this board if you don't have any shares in UBQU? We need to give the company the opportunity to right the ship as there are many shareholders who believe in CannazALL and are invested in the company.
If management will incorporate the suggestions, it should be back trading above $.02. It's way undervalued right now.
Exactly! They have had this in the works for 5+ years with Medistem as a blueprint.
This time rather than selling the company instead of building out demand, it appears that CMTH/CELZ with Tim Warbington at the helm, realizes the company is much more valuable if it has strong revenue streams to leverage to their advantage.
They'll start with Caverstem, then move to Amniostem, and so on. They have multiple patents to monetize. Tim Warbington and company realize that once they have significant revenue flowing from Caverstem in 6-9 months, they will be in the drivers seat with various attractive options to consider.
The key for us all is patience, especially over the next month. It's going to take time to get doctors signed, equipment delivered, training completed, procedures scheduled, etc. Just to have revenue coming in. But the good news is they are smart folks and have been there before with Medistem so they know what they need to do to get maximum return on their investment.
Diego's rental income will remain strong the next 3+ quarters as outlined by their lease agreements. You are correct, the stock is undervalued.
The latest 10Q page 15 lower half of page outlines what they are on target to accomplish. One produce rental income as a leaseholder of valuable cannabis licensed properties. Two (and why I'm invested heavily and patiently sitting on shares) is that once the Federal Gov't follows Canada (July) in legalizing cannabis countrywide, Diego will be acquired quickly thereafter. They spell out everything on page 15. That's why the key exec's exchanged salary for a lot of shares.
Diego has their plan and has executed to that plan. Watch to see what happens after Canada goes legal nationwide in July. For those who buy now at these low share prices and hold, you will be rewarded at the appropriate time. If you just want to flip in a week, probably not the best play.
For anyone who hasn't had an opportunity, please review Dr. Elias Said's twitter feed to get some perspective on why folks are excited about CMTH/CELZ future.
A PR may come this week; however, CMTH/CELZ leadership does not over promise and under deliver. They will announce something, when they know it has real value.
Right now they are busy trying to get this thing going down the tracks. We need to be patient as it's going to take time.
The stock has rebounded well the past few trading days just on fundamentals. That market knows they are building something good, brick by brick.
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That was a strange post by 409. You two interact like a couple. It is funny to watch.
Exactly! CMTH/CELZ leadership has been pragmatic in utilizing the shares available. They are tools and they understand the value and how it applies to share price. They need to utilize these tools to build out the sales force, pay for equipment, training, etc. It takes money to do those things; however, it will pay off as they are following their plan and building this company the right way.
That's key for investors as it's one element that makes CMTH/CELZ leadership different than so many OTC companies. They operate like German engineers, precise.
The current share price is such a buy. Many of us were accumulating awhile back at over $.02 so anyone wondering whether they should wait and see if it drops back to $.014 or less may miss the boat altogether.
I remember thinking Amazon was overpriced at $280/share because I lived in Seattle when they just launched the company and shares were as low as $15 after the 2000 crash.
There is never a perfect time to get in. For folks who believe in this company and their game changing enhancements to people's lives, keep accumulating as it moves forward. As you stated, it will be at $.10 and above. Does it matter if you pay $.018 or $.022 or $.025 a share to have it go to $.10. I think we sometimes try to outsmart ourselves.
CELZ FORCE!
You are a true team player ES along with others on the board. My shares are locked and don't plan to sell any.
The more we all stick together and communicate and assist each other, trust gets built. With trust, anything is possible!
It would be great to get this to $.10 or above in the near future so there can be an epic party to celebrate all the efforts of the folks on this board. Nothing like a good victory party shared with others.
Billy, thank you for providing this info and your continued contributions.
SCR- Thank you for posting these links. #1 and #4 should be read by all CMTH/CELZ shareholders and prospective shareholders as this is some of the DD/prior history longs are using as the basis for large purchases of CELZ company stock.
Ichim and Gershman have done this before as link 1 points out with success. Timothy Warbington assembled this group of individuals along with Donald Dickerson and others with a specific purpose in mind. To build a revenue generating company with unique attributes that will be a game changer. That will attract the attention of larger (deep pocketed) companies for a potential buyout down the road once revenues are clearly established and growing at a strong clip.
They are not going to put out a PR until they have something tangible of value to communicate to the public. They have proven over the past year+ to not over promise and under deliver. Therefore, they will be measured and pragmatic with communication to the public. So a PR may not come for 2 weeks or more, but when it comes it will be because they have something worthwhile to share.
They are diligently working on signing doctors, getting equipment ready to ship, training set up, etc.,. It takes time (not weeks but months). It's going to take months to get revenue moving to a level that will make the stock really run. I was fortunate to spend 25 building business for Fortune 500 companies. Although we are now at commercialization, CMTH/CELZ is really just in it's infancy of revenue generation.
Be patient and if you believe in the company, buy shares. At $.02 or $.03 it's cheap compared to where it will be in 6-12 months. If CMTH/CELZ leadership team didn't have a track record of getting from A-Z with success, it may not make sense to hold long term. Thus flip for a penny when it goes to $.025.
However, this leadership team know what they are doing and doing it the right way. Warbington didn't buy almost 10M shares spending $140K of his own money to be a $.02, $.03 or $.05. He wants to be very wealthy and that means getting this share price to $.50 or more in a year.
Really appreciate the post and information provided. We need more of this type of DD to help folks connect the dots on why longs are excited for CMTH/CELZ future. This is a good board with some smart, thoughtful people. Please reach out to CMTH/CELZ leadership with good ideas/suggestions to help move the train down the tracks as efficiently as possible.
Enjoy the day!
CF
One positive is how well the stock has done the past 2 days with no news from CMTH/CELZ. The fundamentals want it to be sitting closer to $.02 if outside interference is kept to a minimum.
CMTH/CELZ leadership has moved the train out of the station. They are not providing news unless it's accurate and keeps with their pattern of not over promising and under delivering.
CMTH/CELZ will utilize the tools at their disposal to build the business. That's smart on their part. Participating at the AUA world conference in SF is an expense, clinical trials and patents are large expenses, creating/licensing equipment for the procedures are expenses. However, these are valuable investments by leadership to get the train put together and now out of the station and moving down the tracks.
I am all for them using their disciplined/prudent approach to using the tools at their disposal to get the train to where it is. Moving forward, it will take a sizeable investment to build out the sales team, pay to get equipment shipped, training completed onsite, advertising, etc., etc.
When they do decide to release news (whether next week or three weeks from now), it will be because they have something to say. Not to give shareholders a quick jolt just to come falling back to earth. In the meantime will the stock move about, yes.
Like a number of other longs with significant shares have posted multiple times, this is not a typical OTC stock. At some point, it will launch because the actions of leadership have shown they operate professionally and with purpose.
It's much more fun to watch something grow and win as a team than solo. That's why ES, SFT1 and other longs on this board are trying to provide helpful info so we can rally together.
Enjoy the weekend.
CF
There are a lot of smart investors with unique skill sets and talents on this board. The more we can co-ordinate efforts and make timely buys that offset the efforts of CDEL, the share price can move back to where it should be without the MM manipulation and hit piece article antics.
It's clear the CMTH/CELZ leadership has the CaverStem train just starting down the tracks and other parties want to grind it to a halt. They will continue to try each day, but ultimately will fail.
As this builds over the next couple of months, the MSM will want to know more about the positive effects this revolutionary treatment is having in people's lives. When that day comes, the stock will truly take off and not look back. That's when strong buyout offers will hit CMTH/CELZ leadership table to consider.
So far, the CMTH/CELZ leadership has operated their business like true professionals. As another long investor stated (might have been SFT1), they update and enhance all POS material expediently. It's a small thing, but it just points to how they operate in putting effort into the little details.
They put out information that's professionally written and doesn't put the company in a position to over promise and under deliver. It's as if they know exactly what they need to do to take this company from A-Z and are executing to that plan.
One thing I have suggested to folks is reach out to CMTH/CELZ leadership at coo@creativemedicalhealth.com with helpful suggestions and/or to relate valid concerns about things you see. The more they know there are investors willing to assist their team through using the valuble and unique skillsets many of you possess, the faster the train can get to it's destination.
CF
Great updated version of the Gap Band Party Train. I told Arrakis I was out and like to keep my word but after playing your video on 11 (because it's one louder) and getting my groove going, I needed to send a reply.
Both could be good theme songs playing in the background of an infomercial/commercial for CaverStem. Can't help but get folks motivated to get the CaverStem treatment so they can fully get their mojo in motion.
If CELZ leadership can get 3 or 4 men who have had the procedure done (with positive results) and have them on a TV show with their spouses or significant others to discuss how good life is after the procedure, well then CELZ takes off immediately as the demand will be incredible. That's the way they stimulate huge demand in a heartbeat!
That works well too! I've over-posted for today but am pleased you and Seaton are onboard the party train.
Turn on the video, turn up the volume and I can't help but think you'll be dancing or grooving by minute 1. I'm old school. Enjoy your evening. I'm out.
Life is trippy! First Seaton now Arrakis. In honor of both of them joining us on the train to prosperity, I'll leave you a song in their honor.
Spot on Arrakis! Thanks for providing for all.
Dr. Elias Said is quickly becoming the CELZ FORCE for CaverStem. You've probably been to Robyn Balliet's Twitter feed. Dr. Said is pushing her to get things going. Good sign when an ER doctor from NM is so gung ho for CaverStem. Love his enthusiasm!!
Glad to see you getting on the CMTH/CELZ bus again. Appreciate the honesty you show in your posts.
You have social media skills Brian. Reach out to Robyn Balliet/Dr. Gershman and/or the CMTH leadership and help drive their awareness and revenue with those skills.
The more you use your talents to assist them, the more you may want to stay on this ride for the long haul. That will benefit all!
CF
Rock on ES! Appreciate how you support the company with your continued purchases. May be enlightening for other posters to have a general feel for how many shares you have to understand how much you've backed the company with your $$.
I'm not close to you at over 5M presently, but trying to do my part to assist them in getting a higher baseline formed.
It's much more fun to share in victories with others and work to accomplish goals together.
Thumbs Up SFT1! I try to not post often but appreciate those of you who bring so much value to this company and board. It will definitely pay off with time.
Keep buying as it's rising. I've made 3 buys on the ask this morning (PST) to the present price. Let's make any shorts pay and get the word out on CMTH/CELZ.
If we use some co-ordination of buying efforts, it will help establish a new baseline.
Good morning CELZ Longs - I just purchased another chunk of shares at the ask. The price is ridiculously low. We need all longs to keep chipping away with buys to help get the momentum flowing our direction and allow PPS to head back to $.02 and above where it belongs.
It's not a natural instinct to use teamwork on IHub as investing is personal. However, the more we can operate as a team in unison, the more impact we can have.
An example outside of assisting through purchasing shares is to reach out to Dr. Gershman, Robyn Balliet and CMTH leadership (coo@creativemedicalhealth.com) and provide suggestions on improving their awareness/reach of CaverStem to the masses. I have reached out to CMTH leadership; however, I am not engaged in Twitter/Facebook. So I am not as savvy as many posters on this board.
We need to be patient as they are now really beginning the true commercialization/revenue generating efforts of the procedure. However, any efforts and suggestions you provide them, can go a long ways towards getting the awareness up and people wanting to get the procedure performed. Then CELZ stock really gets traction as revenues will be climbing quickly.
CF
The key with Diego Pellicer is to peel back the onion and understand their model. They are a real estate company making money for shareholders though lease revenue, because it's federally illegal to operate a public traded company as a cannabis company. However, they built the business (dispensaries, processing facility, branded items, etc) to be turn-key if they want to sellout once federally legal to do so.
Diego's executive group built two world class dispensaries (Seattle and Denver) which were large capital outlays but paid dividends in awareness and store traffic/revenue and ultimately won Colorado dispensary of the year in 2017. That's in their first full year of operation against more than 50 other dispensaries.
If you ever get an opportunity one of their locations, they are impressive. Both dispensaries are producing millions in revenue each year. The Washington State Liquor and Cannabis board site lists the monthly tax revenue generated by each dispensary. Colorado is doing better than Seattle but in their first year, each produced multiple millions of dollars in sales. Diego built these facilities to have them run by other people until the US Gov't stops the prohibition on cannabis and makes it federally legal.
As soon as that happens, a large beverage company (probably an alcohol company) will gobble them up in a heartbeat. Constellation and Diageo are making investments in Canada now as it's becoming federally legal countrywide in July. The US Government will follow their lead fairly quickly as there's too much tax money to be made and the system now is way too cumbersome for business.
I've been buying shares since the beginning of the year and am just sitting on them knowing a change in federal policy will be coming. When that occurs Diego Pellicer will pay handsome dividends to it's shareholders as they'll be bought out as a turn key operation by deep pockets.
I don't post often but thought it was appropriate to give some additional perspective on Diego and encourage new shareholders or prospective shareholders to really dig into their business to see how they've set things up for an eventual buyout. Diego's CEO took a huge paycut in exchange for shares and doubt he and the other key stakeholders haven't thought through their end game. They will cash in at the appropriate time.
Well stated UVA. I'm amazed that we can't go a day on this board without the sky falling or the heavens parting. This is going to take time to develop. We need patience and to look at things with both eyes open. A few positives:
1) It's positive news that CMTH/CELZ has hired an individual with medical/pharma background to lead the revenue generation of CaverStem.
2) It's positive that when I reached out to the COO yesterday, he responded within 2 hours regarding the article (hit piece) in EG. Donald Dickerson was on point in his reply yet displayed a strong level of professionalism you'd expect from someone with an MBA in Finance from USC and career as a CFO. He's not getting paid much in salary so he's in this for future benefits.
3) As you and others have stated multiple times, Thomas Ichim has built and sold other companies in the medical/bio-tech space for substantial profits before. He understands what it will take to get CaverStem and CMTH other patents to producing enough revenue to either entice a profitable buyout at some point, or to continue growing the revenue and executing the introduction of AmnioStem and other patent offerings and ultimately up listing the company. Either way, we win!
4) Timothy Warbington purchased in April almost 10M shares at $.0138 for approximately $140K. Why would the CEO pay $140K out of pocket when a) he didn't need to buy them and b) when he paid more than market price. I wouldn't do that to tank the stock. Makes NO sense. He has approximately 100M shares and wants to be rich, very rich! CMTH/CELZ he knows is his golden goose. He's not taking much salary ($10K/month) as he is planning for a much, much greater payday downstream.
Those are a few of the positives from my view. Are there issues getting everything accomplished, yes. Do we know that CMTH/CELZ is a homerun, no. If everything was assured, we wouldn't be in OTC looking for hidden gems.
Will the stock go up and down over the next month+.? Absolutely. However, these guys have been there and done that and are executing their plan well. They are all mature (50+) and have learned through trial and error what works and what it takes to be profitable and entice buyout suitors.
The final positive is I have not seen a case where they over promise and under deliver. If I've missed one, someone please point it out. They are pragmatic, focused and moving this battleship across the Atlantic. But it takes time to get to our destination. Not a day or a week but months. Until they show me they are not up to the task, my 5M shares will remain locked with a $1 sales price.
CF
Rock on HouseSteve! Longs, we need to keep pushing back on the forces against us.
I was surprised to receive a reply back so quickly from CMTH/CELZ COO Don Dickerson regarding the hit piece article sent yesterday afternoon. If all longs will reach out to him at coo@creativemedicalhealth.com and let him know your concerns/suggestions, it goes along way to re-enforcing what I relayed.
My 5M shares at AWP of $.018 are locked. I don't care if the price is $.011 or $.016 at this point. The fundamentals have not changed. They are working their plan. Until I see evidence to the contrary, the price is irrelevant. They can provide news tomorrow and it will shoot up past $.02.
Keep buying at these cheap prices as Steve suggested one click above bid. Make the shorts pay.
I received a response from Don Dickerson, COO of CMTH. They were not aware of the article but appreciated us providing.
I did provide him the RXMD Newswire piece outlining the CEO's steps to try and curtail/combat naked shorts and MM manipulation. I mentioned they have many shareholders in support and that regular communication of action steps/deliverables are important to shareholders.
They are a busy, small team working their plans to grow CMTH/CELZ/CaverStem business, awareness and revenue. We need to exercise patience as this will take time to develop. There will always be negative posters who have their own agenda. We need to continue to combat false or misleading information.
I would encourage longs to reach out to Mr. Dickerson and provide helpful feedback/suggestions. It's OK to post on Ihub, but it won't get to the decision-makers. That will require us to communicate direct to coo@creativemedicalhealth.com.
Best Regards,
CF
Will do SFT1. I would encourage others to continue reaching out to CMTH/CELZ leadership as I'm one voice of many. Appreciate all you do for this board and the same with many other regular posters who are investing in CELZ and communicating through this board. We are stronger together!
I sent the article MeatSlice provided to both CaverStem "contact us" email address along with CMTH website contact address for the COO. Agreed, it is in their best interest to communicate with shareholders and have asked that they respond to my messages.
There are many strong posters on this board who articulate clearly what CMTH/CELZ are working to accomplish. As stated prior, CMTH/CELZ is a small team and have done amazingly well to get from infancy to commercialization in a very competitive environment (medical technology).
Getting Urologists/Physicians signed, equipment delivered, training scheduled and completed all takes time. Then you have to get procedures scheduled, etc., etc.,. Bottom line is ES was on point about August/September as a good indicator to see how revenue is progressing. Wish it was like finding gold, but building a revenue producing business in medical technology takes a lot of effort and time.
The good news is CMTH/CELZ is at commercialization now of CaverStem and they will be looking to leverage their other patents in due time. If there wasn't a lot of positives to this company, I don't think there would be so much action on these boards trying to discount what they've accomplished to date!
I've locked my 5M shares at $1 and plan to wait until August to see how things progress and then take it one day at a time.
Best Regards,
CF
Thank you SFT1
Thank you SFT1! Enjoy the rest of your evening.
Thank you InvestGibbon for writing CELZ leadership! Stronger Together!