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Apparently when the questioning gets tough the weak change the subject matter. New distractions now enter the stream as a deversion away from the original line of questioning. Thus any egg on face may be washed away via misdirection. Fortunately we all have a constant, called solar3d reallity, to fall back on. This allows us to refocus on what is important and ignore the blatant bannering attempt at distraction. I am reminded of the convulance of the Potomac River and the Shenandoah River at Harpers Fairy, WV . The dirty polluted Potomac, much like it's origins, full of distractions, merges into the beautiful Shenandoah clear blue waters.
The Shenandoah absorbs the dirt and serenely flows on washing all the misleading filth away forever. Just as SLTD will do with all it's detractors.
Well now there is the problem in a nut shell. I do understand your post. I do see also that without substantiating claims that those claims are with out merit. Apparently thirteen year old simple math is not in play here. Otherwise there would not be any debate as to the legitimacy of your statements. It would be laid out mathmatically for all to appreciate. Failing that test, all previous statements also fail the smell test.
And as always, you are right on target.
Sorry mooon can't help it.
I assume you have all the numbers required to back up your claim. Then I am going to assume that you can provide educated statements, from professionals, that this is a problem, and not just a " I think this is a problem, so it must be a problem, even though I can't prove it's a problem, it is obvious to me it's a problem! therefore it is a problem!"
Please stop grasping for straws and document this negative flow. First off, are you talking negative stock flow, which I don't really give a damn about? Or are you talking negative cash flow of company proceeds and sales? If the latter I expect to see some really serious numbers on display here or I will suggest that everyone just ignore you in the future. Baseless claims are just that, BASELESS.
Patent approval is at this time irrelevant and will continue to be such until a yea or nay comes down. At which point if yea, we go, yea. If no, then I have no doubt that legal complaints will be filed and further extending protection pending court decisions into infinitum. So, let's just not talk about that subject, it leads nowhere for now.
IMO the S-3 is not possible without an uplisting, no matter how it's done. I know some believe the float is key, however until someone can show me explite proof that it does I will contend that an OTC can not qualify. It specifically states multiple times that you MUST have a national listing on a major board. I have not found anything that says specifically "unless you have x amount of float". As a matter of fact the float number as an absolute 75 mil, was changed so that companies with a lower float could now qualify, they just can't get as much money if they are below 75 mil. However it still is stated they must be registered on a major board. Now addmittedly there are 10 such boards so maybe we qualify, as is, for one of them, but still we must qualify for the S-3 to take affect. And again until an admendment to the current S-3 is filed , absolutely nothing is going to happen.
Not trying to be difficult, but we need to keep the facts straight.
A fossil fuel power station burns fossil fuels such as coal, natural gas or petroleum (oil) to produce electricity. Central station fossil-fuel power plants are designed on a large scale for continuous operation. In many countries, such plants provide most of the electrical energy used. Fossil-fuel power stations have rotating machinery to convert the heat energy of combustion into mechanical energy, which then operates an electrical generator. The prime mover may be a steam turbine, a gas turbine or, in small plants, a reciprocating internal combustion engine. All plants use the energy extracted from expanding gas - steam or combustion gases. Very few MHD generators have been built which directly convert the energy of moving hot gas into electricity.
Byproducts of thermal power plant operation must be considered in their design and operation. Waste heat energy, which remains due to the finite efficiency of the Carnot, Rankine, or Diesel power cycle, is released directly to the atmosphere, directly to river or lake water, or indirectly to the atmosphere using a cooling tower with river or lake water used as a cooling medium. The flue gas from combustion of the fossil fuels is discharged to the air. This gas contains carbon dioxide and water vapor, as well as other substances such as nitrogen oxides (NOx), sulfur oxides (SOx), mercury, traces of other metals, and, for coal-fired plants, fly ash. Solid waste ash from coal-fired boilers must also be removed. Some coal ash can be recycled for building materials.[1]
Fossil fueled power stations are major emitters of CO2, a greenhouse gas (GHG) which according to a consensus opinion of scientific organisations is a contributor to global warming as it has been observed over the last 100 years. Per unit of electric energy, brown coal emits about 3 times as much CO2 as natural gas, and black coal emits about twice as much CO2.[citation needed] Carbon capture and storage of emissions is not expected to be available until technology is safe and deployable
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil-fuel_power_station
I know some would like oil to die today, but the reality is it can't and won't happen for many many years. In the meantime we can look forward to solar getting cheaper and oil getting cheaper. Opec may not win this one.
Check out:
http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/02/investing/oil-fight-opec-us-shale-boom/index.html
You know people will start equating those projects as being the solar3d cell itself. The skimmers will miss that "developing" word.
It is a shame that some of us have gotten so spolied with the constant good news that we now have no patience to wait for more good news. There are those that think we are riding too high, that we are blind, and can not see because of our rose colored glasses pearched precariously on our noses are blinding us to any reality.
Perhaps even more interesting, or disturbing, is that those of us wearing these supposedly speacial glasses, also have absolutly no control over what the market decides our stock should be worth. Nor do those that believe it is overvalued. They have no say either.
Meanwhile, as the news is slow, and tradeing slow, we resort to snapping at each other in order to cover our frustration with nothingness. Those snapped at cry foul, only telling like it is. Don't kill the messanger. But we want to do just that.
We have gotten where we are by remaining a team of believers. Investors not traders. We are here because we believe in the product that's coming, that will change everything.
At times we get upset with the boss for not moving fast enough. Even though we know in our hearts and brains, that speed often equates to making mistakes. But like our children on Christmas Morning we want it now.
It's time to take a few deep breaths, and give some thanks for where we are today as compared to a year ago. For the nay sayers, I think it is best to just assume they have no stake here, but wish that they did. Solar3d can and will survive quite nicely with or without negative opinions. The real question is can we?
Until given a " solid reason" not to, I will continue to be a believer, a supporter and a defender. What is your position?
Yeah, Sellers Fright, Buyers Delight. Love it!
Opec has no plans to decrease production any time soon so all will continue to fall. They are intent on putting shale oil and sand oil out of Bss. On the other hand solar is finally breaking the tie between it and oil so you can count on solar going back up regardless of what oil is doing.
Would everyone please keep in mind that insider selling, no mater who they are requires a form 4 to be filled. There have been none since mid Nov, so doubt any fluff PR could substantiate any non existant insider selling. While I also would like news, I'm not ready to start looking for negatives or create negatives where none exist.
I'm back. We have an S-3 just setting there waiting to explode into massive growth with the coming announcements. Why on earth would anyone be getting nervouse and ready to sell. So yes it's down, never seen this happen before? Oh wait, did it do this in Aug? Sept? Nov? Last Feb? GET OVER IT! We will be back to riding high before long. OH BTW, you sell I'll buy.
A big thank you to all who have posted thier condolences and good wishes. It is indeed very special to have people like you as friends. My family thanks you also. Now we need to get this show on the road. We need SLTD news.
So, all in all not one of my better days here. Just got word my mom died. Was expecting it but. Anyway may be even further out of touch with you all than currently,, as will probably be headd for Texas shortly to deal with this. Anyway, best of everything to all this week. I am hopeful all hell will break loose this week. It's time I think. GLTA. May the Mother bring you joy and peace and prosperity.
Bucky, I think you are wrong on the float qualifying, you can have less than $75 million float that was revised with these changes. However you still must meet the national equity board requirement.
SEC comments on revised S-3 filing
This sucker is seventy pages long but here is the essence of it. This direct from thier document. If you want to read whole thing link is at the bottom.
C. Summary of Comments and Revisions to Amendments
None of the commenters addressed our request for comment on the Paperwork Reduction Act analysis contained in the Proposing Release. We are nevertheless revising our Paperwork Reduction Act estimates in light of certain modifications we have made to the final rules as opposed to the proposal.
As proposed, new General Instruction I.B.6. of Form S-3 and new General Instruction I.B.5. of Form F-3 would have limited the amount of securities eligible companies could sell in accordance with these provisions to no more than the equivalent of 20% of their public float over any period of 12 calendar months. In consideration of commenters who were concerned that capping issuers at 20% of the value of their public float every twelve months would limit the usefulness of these new rules, we have decided to increase the twelve-month offering threshold to one-third of an issuer’s public float. In light of this increase, however, we are adopting a further condition to eligibility under new General Instruction I.B.6. of Form S-3 and new General Instruction I.B.5. of Form F-3 that the issuer must have at least one class of common equity securities listed and registered on a national securities exchange. This additional restriction should help to minimize the potential abuses arising from expanded shelf registration because the securities exchanges, through their listing rules and procedures, as well as other requirements, provide an additional measure of protection for investors.
. Revised Paperwork Reduction Act Burden Estimates
As discussed in Section II.C. above, we are revising our Paperwork Reduction Act burden estimates that were originally submitted to the Office of Management and Budget. Our revised estimates reflect the changes that we have made to the final rules as compared to the proposal.
For purposes of the Paperwork Reduction Act, we now estimate the annual decrease in the paperwork burden for companies to comply with our collection of information requirements to be approximately 10,375 hours of in-house company personnel time and to be approximately $12,450,000 for the services of outside professionals.98 These estimates include the time and the cost of preparing and reviewing disclosure, filing documents and retaining records. Our methodologies for deriving the above estimates are discussed below.
Our estimates represent the burden for all issuers, both large and small. As mentioned, however, the estimated decreases are wholly attributable to our assumptions, discussed in Section II.B. above, about how the amendments will influence the behavior of certain issuers who were formerly ineligible to conduct primary offerings on Forms S-3 and F-3. These issuers are non-shell companies who satisfy the registrant eligibility requirements of Form S-399 or Form F-3,100 as applicable, have at least one class of common equity securities listed and registered on a national securities exchange, and had a public float of less than $75 million at the end of their last fiscal year. In all, we estimate that there were approximately 1,400 such companies at the end of calendar year 2006 and that they filed a total of 66 registration statements on Forms S-1, SB-2101 and F-1 during the twelve months ending December 31, 2006.102 To determine the effect of our amendments on the overall paperwork burden, we have assumed that these filings on Forms S-1, SB-2103 and F-1 would be made instead on Form S-3 or Form F-3, as applicable, to the extent that the issuers would not be limited by the one-third cap on the amount of securities they may sell in any period of 12 calendar months under the new rules. Therefore, we assume that the Forms S-1 and F-1 filed by the subject companies will decrease from the number filed in 2006, but because of the one-third cap on sales, will not decrease to 0.104 Instead, we believe that some Forms S-1 and F-1 will continue
STARTING ON PAGE 44.
http://www.sec.gov/rules/final/2007/33-8878.pdf
Was reading the S-3 again and I think we all managed to overlook a couple of paragaphs of significance. These two tell use that absolutly nothing is going to happen until the company fills in the blanks with an amended filing to activate the propsal.
From S-3:
The Registrant hereby amends this Registration Statement on such date or dates as may be necessary to delay its effective date until the Registrant shall file a further amendment that specifically states that this Registration Statement shall thereafter become effective in accordance with Section 8(a) of the Securities Act or until this Registration Statement shall become effective on such date as the Commission, acting pursuant to said Section 8(a), may determine.
Table of Contents
The information in this prospectus is not complete and may be changed. We may not sell these securities until the registration statement filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission is effective. This preliminary prospectus is not an offer to sell these securities and it is not soliciting an offer to buy these securities in any jurisdiction where the offer or sale is not permitted.
So it seems we get to wait for the other shoe to drop. One and done.
This speech of welcome and thanksgiving was delivered by an unknown Chief in attendance of that first thanks giving.
First People wish you a welcome, and except your thanks for the food we provided you in your time of need. We wish for you many more years of thanks and welcomes. First people are happy that the white man have survived their hard times, surviving on our foods. They are many, beans, squash, pumpkins, sunflowers, arrowroot, wild rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, peanuts, avocados, papayas, and chocolate.
And we see that you also enjoy our treats. Such as pine nuts, cashews, hickory nuts, and acorns, and our fruits, cranberries, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, chokecherries, wild plums, and persimmons and many of our beans, roots, and greens such as watercress.
And of course the Turkey.
We regret that we have no chicha to offer today. Perhaps next year we can partake.
Hopefully these celebrations of thanks will help to resolve our differences in the future. We pray to the spirits for peace. For harmony, for co-existance. We welcome our white brothers to the land of First People.
May you prosper in the land of SOLAR3D. Till we meet again HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
Try merger with JA Solar Holdings (NASDAQ:JASO), manufactures solar cells solar panels, is in China world wide supplier etc. Currently in need of extra financing. Note big board listing. Any light bulbs poping on yet?
You all do know that Buffet owns the Nevada Power company that was talked about here recently?
Absolutely correct. This the "Lab to Fab" that Jm mentioned in an interview months ago. It is possibly the more time consuming part of the process. That partner must figure out how to integrate it all together, while staying true to Jim's vision of using existing manufacturing equipment, not completely new ground up as some infamaouse outfit tried in the past. So yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all that we have yet to hear anything. But hey, we still have a few days left in November, then we have all of December. Hey how about announcements last week before Christmas. What a ride that would be in January. Anyway, long and strong and one for the day.
Ya know the only safe place to go, I think, to avoid anything negative, might be a cloistered monastery. And even then I'm not sure something might not leak in. One thing is for certain though, having raw nerves and being in penny land do not mix well together.
Yeah recognized it from the secod paragraph about early investors.
Looks to me like another normal solar3d day.. Starting out by dropping, never have understood this, but will be followed with a late day upswing, possibly back to green, waiting, once more, for big news. This thing is absolutly like no other stock I own. You can not predict where it is going except when there is big news. Then it isn't really a prediction at that point, it is a fulfillment of what you were expecting and what you know it is suppose to do. Really scary stock in that no one, and I MEAN NO ONE, has a handle on what it will do. NO ONE!!!!
Yep we do bounce around, but not like just any stock. We keep going up up up. And if no one has noticed we almost alway go down in the morning then start a climb back up.. When everything is quite for awhile we actually manage to get higher and higher, till the next big run. She's just like "The unsinkable Molly Brown" go SLTD. Make my day.
I think we are about to see the great roller coaster ride begin today. Don't get left behind. Riding is more fun than chasing. Your choice of course.
I believe if you check out the tax rates in CA then compare them to NV you will have your answer. I spent three years commuting between FL and San Jose CA. rather than get a address in CA and pay taxs there.
Also, in Abes case what he sold is pocket change when compared to the 21.7 million shares he still has. He took home a little over 100k from those sales, and I imagine most of that will go to capital gain taxes for both US and CA. That would be based on his share awards payments or what have you. The goverment doesn't care where your gains come from they just want their percentage of what you gained. If all the gain is in stocks then you are going to have to find money somewhere to pay the taxes.
If JN AND ABES holdings are in blind trust it is unlikely they are selling in advance of news. However that does not mean that the admin of that trust can not sell, and probably would, in advance of news, based on their insider knowledge.
Guess who is leading the action? WHY CDEL OF COURSE!!!
Go Db. Positive article I take it? Of course it is. You rock.
Hunter is grumpier than me. Ha
Check it out
http://www.otcmarkets.com/home
Hear hear. Great post. We can only hope.