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$0 sales at Walgrens. $0 at Tractors, $0 at circle K, $0 at Weis, $0 at 7 eleven, $100 at Woodmans. Maybe $1,000 at Walmart in 3q. It's not looking like a good quarter.
Please feel free to call all the stores like I just did and verify for yourself. By the way, if they cannot find it in the pet department, have them check general merchandise. That is where the 1 store selling Barz has them displayed. He woodmans staff is very friendly and professional by the way.
Another lie. Only 1 of 15 Woodmans selling Nutrabars and it is a test order only.
WOODMANS DEBUNKED: ONLY 1 STORE SELLING NUTRABARS. 12 boxes of 12 bars were shipped to woodmans, so the order is less than $100. After 3 weeks, less than 12 bars have been sold. 14 of the 15 other Woodman stores are not carrying Nutrabars.
Huelva, is $300k your sales estimate for 3q.? I will ad you to the list with your confirmation.
If the numbers are released.....ok. What are the terms of the bet?
What date will the 10q be filed? I am worried that it will not be on time because the quarter is very bad.
Not convincing. Cash/financing is a critical problem and nobody can offer any facts or even a suggestion of proof that the company can survive into 2014, let alone thrive. It sounds like a promotion of blind faith. Maybe even blind, deaf and dumb faith.
Wrong. Investment risk is like driving in a car. You can be killed in a car accident at 5 mph or 100 mph. The accident is more likely to occur at the high speed. The PP investors took more risk by investing in a delinquent filer. The delinquent filing status gave the company a better environment to mislead the investors. Many PP investors have commented here that AAPT only paid attention to them when AAPT was asking them for money. After they made their investment, AAPT acted like they were lepers. If you invested in a PP, you would understand. With that said, if you are so comfortable with the future of AAPT, please call them and offer up a purchase of PP shares. I am sure AAPT will gladly accept your cash.
It's a pause in the decline. Massive capitulation volume happens at bottoms. Today's $3.25 in trade volume is hardly massive.
The $20k truth last quarter devastated the PPS and crippled the share selling effort. Without the filing, they could still be telling investors that bars were flying off the shelves and things Were great. After the filing, it's "we can't sell because the forming machine got a flat tire, but we can give lots of stuff away for free", followed by a 50 percent pay cut. It's easy to see now that retarded Schwartz is kicking himself in the head for releasing that filing. Actually it is not because Schwartz never accepts blame for his own mistakes. He just blames it on the people that he owes money to. How convenient. So, if sales in 3q suck, it would be a typical schwartzism to find a new scapegoat for the delayed financials and invent a new story worthy of selling shares.
Disagree. With late filings, fraudsters Schwartz/Bershan can tell or not tell investors anything and they do not have to prove it. They will tell more lies to sell more shares and say "just kidding" when the truth comes out, followed by "don't worry, that was 5 months ago. Just think about the future". Seriously, If you analyze all past filings, most of the PP money raised happened when AAPT was a delinquent filer.
Vendors/employees were unknowingly converted to volunteers already and the cash savings was put in star queens never to be seen again. If this company had real management, Schwartz and Bershan would be at every pet expo, every trade show and every dog related event possible and they would be doing demos at pet stores and and mass merchandisers all the time, especially on weekends. All investors know that they invested in a management team. Investors are not donating to the Barry Lisa charity because they believe in that cause, although that is actually what happened.
Please add the post numbers for reference. I think we should also provide estimate for the day the September 10q is released. If that q is not out by 11/22, it won't be out until march at the earliest.
Like rocks in the ocean, $3.25 trading volume today. Not even enough to buy one expired pawtizer.
I could name two. Lol
All meaningless speculation. If there was substance, we would get an official announcement. Common sense tells me that the cost of transporting American made dog food to Europe would be too costly for the product to be commercially viable. I am way more concerned about the short term as AAPT is running out of cash and the PPS is still in the toilet. Why expand to Europe when so much of the USA is untapped. 1000 walmart stores and amazon plus woodmans cannot be called saturation.
Maybe a benefactor with an investment in AAPT donated to the events cause by purchasing the stadium banner and the ad. That great, but the impact of the advertising is lost when there is no European distribution, and the ad does not mean that AAPT will be selling in Europe.
As an investor, how to you feel about the excessive amounts of cash that the married directors took out of the company, especially now that sales are suffering. I would also like your honest opinion regarding their history of not paying taxes, vendors and employes, but giving themselves salary advances and bonuses. Thank you.
Nothing worth reporting per Lisa. When they have something "you need to know, you won't have to wait long to know it". March 11 desk letter. Until then, no news is bad news.
The only way for AAPT to go up is to replace management with a team that will run this company like a business and not their personal piggy bank. When that happens, all of the shareholders will profit and everyone will be thanking me. If Chewies is ordered by Walmart, I will say congratulations, now how will you get consumers to know about Chewies and purchase it. Chewies won't sell themselves any more than Nutrabars , probably less since Barz are a more unique product. By the way, I am not the only investor that thinks the way I do.
Correct. Sales in the hundreds dollars. LMAO
False hope for the misinformed is the intention of those lame hints in the past. No one would ever buy the liabilities that come with these assets. All strategic buyers know that payroll tax liabilities cannot be separated from the assets, ever, and no one will take on a million, minimum, payroll tax liability to get a non functional forming machine and obsolete Pawtizer inventory.
More selling than buying is driving the price down. Investors know that AAPT has corrupt and self interested management and no ability to execute their flawed business plan. Time to get out while there is still a bid.
AAPT running out of cash and struggling to stay a float. Not many options to get cash except toxic convertible debt and PP shares sold at $0.001. There is not enough money to produce and air a commercial and if they trick another vendor into running a commercial without paying for it as usual, the current distribution is not big enough for the commercial to be effective
No buyout. Strategic investor would make their own version of AAPT products than buyout AAPT. Purina could make and market a similar product in 3 or 4 months for less than a million bucks. Negotiations with AAPT would be twice that long and there is no risk of all the AAPT liabilities popping up. If AAPT got a buyout offer, the IRS would do a total audit and who knows what additional taxes, interest and penalties would be owed. The default stipulated judgement would be triggerred and several other vendors and employes would press claims previously unpursued because there was no credit worthy defendant. A buyout will never happen unless it is a liquidating buyout of AAPT assets in chapter 7 bankruptcy.
Should have started with more advertising and less management bonuses. I know that was the past but it matters now are the sales results show it
Chewies is less unique as a treat than Nutrabars are as a food. Both products will need major amounts of effective advertising which AAPT cannot afford. Build it and they will sell did not work for Nutrabars bars and bars did not sell themselves. Someone suggested that a high percentage of end user purchases of bars were AAPT investors. Sales patterns seem to confirm that is true.
Pawtizer failed. No one interested. Inventory expiring. Target market minuscule. Unsuccessful at 2stores a year ago. Walmart not going to buy the product.
sorry to inform the misinformed AAPT shareholders, that advertising is good and I only wish that AAPT managers advertised Nutrabars instead of giving themselves bonuses. If the company was run by people that wanted to benefit the shareholders instead of themselves, I probably would not be sharing my messages with this forum. The European charity event advertising was nice but useless. It will not result in any sales since product is not available on that continent and will not be there for foreseeable future. Those that saw the Pawtizer ad that appeared on the broadcast of the Westminster kennel club may remember "available in stores soon". I do not know how much that ad cost to make or broadcast, but it did not result in meaningful sales because Pawtizer is still not available in stores, 6 months later and the impact of the advertising is long forgotten. I am just being practical and objective. This management needs to go. They have had 10 years of second chances and the only people that make any money at AAPT are the managers that take investor money to finance their lavish life style.
Not trying to alienate anyone. AAPT business people should not start projects that they do not intend to finish. Also, AAPT business people should anticipate the markets reaction to news that they release.
If the reseller is 25 percent of sales, then less product than I thought is at walmart.
Excluding debt conversion, management has not purchased a single share of stock since AAPT went public in 2006. They have sold when the stock price was high. Investors should realize that managements that sells but does not buy shares, has interests in direct conflict with the investors that actually buy shares. Aapt's management takes cash and sells shares. They do not buy shares or payout much cash.
Aapt's product reseller continues to damage AAPT and offend shareholders. AAPT made a mistake by allowing the reseller to take revenue away form AAPT. Every $ that the reseller takes in is money that AAPT could have captured for them selves. The reseller also uses the weird and irritating slogan "AAPT wheels" which even the strongest AAPT supporters find confusing and annoying. I am hoping AAPT management gets smart and disassociates themselves from the reseller. Persona non grata should be the official status.
Grid is toxic above $0.0022. Grid was funded with bonus money extracted from the company, so shareholders go no benefit, the company got no net cash, and the directors got 236 million shares.
The IRS doesn't care about AAPT or any other company. They only want their money. When e IRS realizes that AAPT and the directors are tax cheaters, they are not going to be sympathetic, helpful or even fair.
We agree that AAPT needs revenue and we have both made are projections. I would bet that My projection much closer to actual than all others, except maybe does it really matter
Compare AAPT first 7 years to bewithal. Giant difference. AAPT is run by crooks that never got sales or profits. Bewital , grew their sales honestly and made profits. They also paid taxes. Comparing AAPT to bewital is only less silly than comparing AAPT to AAPL.
Toxic convertible debt, not paying employees, ordering goos and services and not paying for them and begging upside down shareholders to give them more money ( like throwing good money after bad). That is how AAPT will continue. It's the same as before, with the difference being, it gets harder and harder to continue as the debts pile up and more people know about their methods. The IRS will eventually catch up to them. So will former shareholders and people Barry n Lisa defrauded. It is a short matter of time until the game ends.
AAPT never repays. Europe should lend billions to AAPT based on their credit worthiness. LMAO. In the future, when Europe asks for the money back, AAPT will say "the loan doesn't matter because it is in the past". LMAO again.
Btw, if be withal is a small company, than AAPT is a pimple on a miscrospic organism. lMAO again
Correct. European advertising wasteful, amateurish, and unnecessary. Very good analysis Darvin.
The future involves, IRS asset seizures, SEC trading halts, shareholder lawsuits, criminal charges and more AAPT lies and incompetence about all these events.
Explain the kickback for wasted shareholder money, please.