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By: golfer28409
18 Aug 2004, 10:11 AM EDT
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Coincidence???? CMKX, GEMM and ECPN all have 911 trades.
Market Depth For Cmkm Diamonds Inc Delayed: Aug 18 9:49 AM EDT
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0.000 1000000 09:49:29
0.000 1000000 09:49:23
0.000 30000 09:49:17
0.000 9000000 09:48:42
0.000 30000 09:48:21
0.000 911 09:47:52
0.000 9000000 09:47:49
0.000 500000 09:47:48
0.000 911 09:47:03
0.000 250000 09:46:52
0.000 250025 09:46:48
0.000 911 09:45:58
0.000 10000 09:45:44
0.000 911 09:45:20
0.000 23000 09:45:11
0.000 1750000 09:44:59
0.000 4500000 09:42:51
0.000 1000000 09:42:51
0.000 2480125 09:42:50
0.000 100000 09:41:25
0.000 1000000 09:39:12
0.000 911 09:39:10
0.000 3000000 09:38:55
0.000 575000 09:38:51
Market Depth For Juina Mining Cp Delayed: Aug 18 9:50 AM EDT
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0.035 911 09:45:22
0.035 911 09:42:47
0.035 5000 09:30:05
0.035 10000 08/17/04
0.035 10000 08/17/04
? 0.035 5000 08/17/04
0.030 10000 08/17/04
? 0.030 15000 08/17/04
? 0.026 25000 08/17/04
? 0.031 3000 08/17/04
? 0.030 5000 08/17/04
? 0.032 10000 08/17/04
? 0.026 30000 08/17/04
? 0.030 25000 08/17/04
? 0.026 25000 08/17/04
0.035 911 08/17/04
Market Depth For El Capitan Precious Metals Inc Delayed: Aug 18 9:54 AM EDT
Price Qty Time
0.150 911 09:41:49
? 0.150 200 09:33:03
Bo, I hear last week Melvin said cmkx has a huge short postition, then a day or 2 later stating the short position is almost covered. Dont know what to believe with Melvin anymore. Why have you been holding your peace on the short position till friday? Anything in particular convince you it is true? Appreciate all your posts as usual. pros777
CMKX, going to be a great week, hang on to your seats!
I was realy enjoying this board until recently. Respectfull opinions and discusion. With great work from Mach, Bo,and many others, recent posting from Zen investor and Dr D. Becomming a safe haven for SANE talk. Without pompous challenges from people who have no posting history. This isnt supposed to be a battle ground of who KNOWS IT ALL or who can guess the price the closest by such and such date. Such arrogant games should of been left behind in jr high school. I think a look at the recent posting history for the past day or 2 shows we have an attention seeking antagonistic board hog who has an agenda. I agree on giving a person a chance and not judging on one or 2 posts but this board was created for a reason. One look at the cmkx board and one can see why. I think Rommel would do quite well there and would blend in just fine.
Rommel, whoever is wrong about their prospective stocks lose the right to post? Are you wacked? The only one to know the exact outcome of any stock is God. Take your games and divisiveness to another board.
Rommel, your an obvious basher/pumper take it eslewhere! Havent you read anything about cmkx and whats going on? Rommel was a good german general , but you know he was defeated. Berlin exchange stinks!
CMKX-CITIGROUP By: houstontex1110 (great read)
12 Aug 2004, 08:41 PM EDT
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MESSAGE TO EVERYONE
Too many of you are overlooking the lessons from the past. I have learned a great deal from the truly professional traders on this board. One recent lesson was...read between the lines on a press release, and incorporate that release into the context of all past releases. This is the only way to derive the real impact the the visa card pr.
What are the ramifications of the Visa card? Simply put, through Glenn's connections with Citigroup, UC was introduced evidently to some top loan officers there, if not the CEO himself. As one poster pointed out, his girl friend stated that it is very difficult to fulfill the requirements for a company Visa card, and therefore CMKX is a solid company. This small Visa card established the fact that Citigroup is giving CMKX their backing.
Did you ever stop and think, "Ah, maybe UC wanted to start building goodwill in the eyes of Citigroup by giving them back some immediate profits." When I first started buying and selling land, I purposely overpaid the going rate of interest on some bank loans because I knew the bank would love me for it. Years later, I could walk into that bank, and they willingly approved loans without even looking at the land. I had built goodwill with that bank.
UC if not already, is building a line of credit with Citigroup. I wondered several months ago where was his line of credit. Years past, I witnessed a bank extend a $10 million line of credit to Ultra Petroleum, and that line was elevated as the years past by. We as shareholders will see value come from this Visa card not in a direct way, but through the nurturing of this banking relationship. Stop analyzing questions in a limited context, broaden that context and the big picture emerges.
Secondly, this Visa card pr may have been poorly timed, but so many of the investors are griping about a lack of prs, this may be the only one that could be thrown out to you. The grand slam prs are on the horizon, but the timing is critical on those.
Thirdly, this so called valueless card is a great share holder marketing tool. Every investor who owns one will show their negative friends, " Look there, CMKX has their own card and you said they wouldn't last for 3 months." Seeing is believing and the Visa card shouts that Citigroup is in our corner. Who has more financial clout? Citigroup or Knight?...Citigroup.
Fourth, no where in the pr does it state this is an awesome pr. The card is just a small part of a longterm and comprehensive marketing program. And it will generate additional shareholders, and eventually as consumers use it to buy diamonds...I sure plan to...what a statement to our friends , relatives and the diamond world. Ever think that it just might be on TV someday? "The Casavant diamond, unequalled in beauty and prestige. Available wherever the Casavant Visa card is accepted." Now doesn't that sound impressive? Will that materialize into bottom line dollars? In my opinion, you bet.
Fifth, this card says that Citigroup has run a very intensive background investigation of UC, the diamond leases, and CMKX's plans. Their conclusion, "Would you like a Visa card?" First Glenn gives us his approval and now Citigroup throws us a tidbit. I predicted about a month past that soon we would see Big Money coming our way, and once aboard the NSS would be fried. How come?
They can step on a little pink sheet stock, but they better not mess with the investments of the rich. Notice what occurred 2 weeks ago. Citigroup suddenly appeared as a market maker. The respected investors are discovering that we are for real... and you all gripe that there is not any immediate value from the card. No, you are right the share price did not rise. Is that a just standard to use in reference to the longterm impact of this card? Look towards the future.
The significance of this card is symbolism. We have just stepped into the world of high finance.
Approximately 8 years ago, I ran across a company trading on the Amex by the symbol XCL? (Been a long time). It was trading for .12. In conducting my dd (I wish I hadn't), I discovered they were currently in arrears on $25,000,000 bank loans and were being sued by a big shot partner for millions, and in total owed something like $37,000,000 due and immediately payable. They also appeared to have discovered a billion barrel oil discovery . XCL's bank account was somewhere around $700,000. Bankrupt! I called the company and they were not encouraging. Then contacted a very respected oil analyst here is Houston. He said, "That company is essentially bankrupt." I concluded that their powerful partner would likely beat them out of the lease and take everything. I walked...one year later, I glanced in the WJ, and they are priced at $7.00 That mistake cost me 1 million dollars.
Ouch, what did I learn? If a company has the goods, the money will find its way to their opportunity. That bankrupt company, called a few investment bankers or perhaps a billionaire, and they were given a check and most likely,
"Let my attorneys deal with your bank and your disgruntled partner. We will ensure that my investment is safe."
We have the goods, and Citigroup's Visa card is screaming they are here to invest and assist us. LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.
My predictions?
1. A pr concerning our line of credit with a typical bank.
2. Additional signs that the rich and powerful are establishing a relationship as evidenced by drilling partnerships or investment bankers vehicles of credit.
3. A highly accelerating drilling program. We need to first solve our share structure, and to raise money if the profits from the NSS covering is nonexistent.
As the old miner pointed out. Mining takes a long time. Our progress so far has been breathtaking. I wish all of you could experience the pace of a typical mining venture.
It appears through our Brazil diamond asset and the gold mines of our partners, we should be seeing cash flow in the next quarter. There are ongoing mining concerns with zero cash flow for 3 years, and that is after they have proven an economic gold deposit.
There exists an array of institutions, private and public which have launched their own cards. You mean to tell me they all made a mistake? Their corporate planners and CPAs are all missing something that a few on this board just now have figured out? Some of you who disagree with the card I highly respect. I feel you need to see that not everything in the corporate world can be quantifiable. If you have ever studied cost accounting you will know what I am talking about. Nevertheless, corporations will make the decision since they know from intuition and the experiences of the competition that the act is a
beneficial one.
Finally, how does it fit into past prs? UC mentioned that he plans to straddle the entire diamond industry from production to retail. This card is another piece of the retail end. Just today a poster mentioned there is more money in the retailing of diamonds as opposed to the wholesaling segment.
Some of this post is speculation of course, but some is factual.
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onyx pup I know Melvin has said some very posative things before, but with the meetings going on and the NEWs we will see soon, I do believe it. I also realy like the part about the naked short position being real and that UC and GLENN are working on it! YW/GLTY
CMKX, MELVIN (on pal-talk)... By: Bellingus
12 Aug 2004, 04:56 PM EDT
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CMKX ~ Melvin On PalTalk
Some of the questions:
Q: Was there anyone at the meeting who surprised you?
A: Yes. There were people (plural) there who surprised me.
Melvin was asked to elaborate on this and he said that we would all be very happy with smiles on our faces by this time next week.
Q: What about uranium?
A: Melvin says he knows nothing about uranium and doesn’t know where all this talk is coming from.
He was asked why we are only punching two-inch holes for samples. His reply was that 2.5 in. pipe is the most cost-effective method for taking samples according to the geologist.
Melvin referred to the naked short position as a “barrier” needing to be overcome. The NSS issue is real and a priority for UC, R. Glenn and the company.
We are on track in the process of becoming a reporting company.
The meeting will run all weekend with the conclusion being the participants going to the current drill site on Mon. Melvin won’t be attending the rest of the time unless asked by UC. He will be with the group visiting the drill site on Mon.
Q: Was Sterling at the meeting?
A: No Comment. I will not comment on who was at the meeting.
Q: How can we get the Visa card?
A: Go to CMKXtreme.com and order it.
Q: Are we selling claims?
A: There has been no discussion of selling claims.
He’s taking a few more minutes to answer technical drilling and mining questions.
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Post stating Melvin says "no dividends on cards" By: netzelot
12 Aug 2004, 11:56 AM EDT
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Sorry, I think you would have to logon, here is the message-
Posted by Granny
He thinks the party will be great in vegas and YES urban will be there, melvins part of the meeting was yesterday and he walked away feeling very good, roger glenn is still there and they are not talking with debeers, i asked him about the credit card and he said, the credit card is a marketing tool and no dividends will be put on the card and he didnt know how that got started but there would be No dividends on the card. they started drilling yesterday and the meeting is still going on and roger glenn is still there, they really need our prayers, his wife has a very high iron count and they really need prayers,
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I just got off the phone with Granny and she forgot to post that Melvin told here that Drilling began yesterday(WED.), and The Visa card is just for Promotional reasons.....
Looks like to me a PR about the drilling would have been alot more better for us shareholders.......
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I agree ns8013
CMKX, ok IF a dividend can be put on these cards CAN you cash out the amount? I mean lets say some whale like willy wizzard guy with his 900mil shares gets a dividend and hes got 100grand on his card can he cash it out? or does he have to use it at the grocery store? I dont like withdrawls at ATM's that much since most limit you to 250.00 cash withdrawls. If you cant cash these cards out quickly and easily, I would rather get a cash dividend the old fashion way. In other words I dont think we will see any cash dividends on some card like this UNLESS you can cash it out to your bank or broker. IMO
my take is those bonuses and paychecks being put on those cards is for employees only. I have never heard of payouts to shareholders on cards like this. I dont even know if that is possible for them to put a dividend on a card like that.
CMKX, when does everyone think the market makers will start covering? Aug 20 or Sept 24? Or is the only thing that will force them to cover a cash dividend?
CAR show from vegas, in 5 min on the learning channel. Looks like Shaq will be on.
Big Boys By: billy80817
10 Aug 2004, 01:33 AM EDT
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You guys have to read this one
PennyWrangler
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Joined: 08 Jun 2004
Posts: 604
Location: Saint George, SC
I wondered how long it was going to take before someone followed the bread crumbs to The Lundin Group. These guys are serious heavy hitters in the natural resources sector, and CMKX is exactly the kind of company they look for when snooping for acquisitions. Undervalued, overlooked, with lots of potential value. They also let acquired companies keep their identities and their original CEOs, amazingly enough. The Lundin boys take over the board though.
Everyone keep you fingers crossed on this one... the Lundin's have a ton of money and are, IMO, considerably more powerful than De Beers. Read this:
http://www.thelundingroup...com/lundin_group.pdf
Read it slowly and read the whole thing. I have studied it in depth. CMKX is such a perfect fit here it's uncanny. I am sorry I could not discuss this before... I promised a friend I would not bring up the Lundin connection in public. But now the cat is out of the bag, so we can discuss it!
Zen wins the prize for following the bread crumbs out to the Lundin boys!
http://www.cmkx...net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1667
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Reply to Dr.D's post:going from 1/2 mi diameter to a 2 mi diameter is not a 4-fold increase. It's a difference of the square of the radius... remember area = pi * radius squared. The actual volumetric increase based upon a cylinder with a 2 mi dia vs a 1/2 mi dia is 16 times larger than the 1/2 mi pipe.
I knew that Pie (R) squared stuff was good for something!!
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By: DDPro
07 Aug 2004, 04:04 AM EDT
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Reply to Dr.D's post:
A very good and logically thought out post, except...
you've made a relatively common mistake. When evaluating the volumetric increase based upon a change in the surface area, going from 1/2 mi diameter to a 2 mi diameter is not a 4-fold increase. It's a difference of the square of the radius... remember area = pi * radius squared. The actual volumetric increase based upon a cylinder with a 2 mi dia vs a 1/2 mi dia is 16 times larger than the 1/2 mi pipe.
The end result, based upon everything else in your calculations being correct is $725.952 billion dollars!
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By: pedro20040
07 Aug 2004, 01:24 AM EDT
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cimcmkx
August 10th is the deadline for CMKM to file with the NASDAQ the accurate UCAD ratio.
By law - No Exemptions - By Law
Does not matter if CMKM is a Pink Sheet and filed an expemption from filing - By Law - Must be filed 10 days before the Date of Record.
Machs da man! eom
Anyone else ready for August 20th????eom
Great post by Oaks.....By: okanagan
03 Aug 2004, 10:48 PM EDT
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CASAVANT MANEUVER: Musical Chairs with Shortie>
You will find this both serious and a bit of fun as an illustration of what may be coming.....NOW THEN:
Urban owns a big dance hall. The cover charge is $100 and you will receive 1 million shares ownership in the dance hall. This also gives you a chair to sit in on the dance floor when you want to take a break from dancing. This also entitles you to receive special prizes. Urban recently gave share dividend prizes to all the dance hall patrons entitling people to go to other dance halls owned by friends of Urban. Because Urban is such a generous person it is rare that anyone will sell their shares to anyone else or they would forfeit being able to dance at the other dance halls associated with Urban.
Let's further presume there are 5000 shareholders of record so we collectively hold 5 billion shares. We are the RETAIL DANCE CLUB. On a particular beautiful summer evening we are all sitting in our designated chairs taking a break from dancing.
There is only one empty chair on the dance floor which belongs to Urban. It is the nicest chair because Urban owns 95 billion shares, which makes up the balance of the total 100 billion outstanding shares of the dance hall.
Milling around on the dance floor are all these other people confident they can dance the night away and will never need to sit down in a chair. Someone forgot to tell them it is against the rules to dance on the dance floor if you don't have a chair to sit in when the music stops. It is illegal to be SHORT a CHAIR in this dance hall !! Urban has been trying to figure out how to get rid of all these wanna be dancers who managed to get into his dance hall through the back door. UC thought he had a security guard watching the back door but unfortunately someone bribed the guard, who let all these other people in. BTW..the security guard has already been fired.
Urban's most trusted friend is Roger the BOUNCER. Not only is Roger an excellent bouncer but he also comes up with the perfect solution to rid Urban's dance hall of all these people who don't have a chair to sit in.
Tonight is the night to start getting rid of the wanna be dancers. Urban grabs the microphone and declares a .05 CASH DIVIDEND to all his seated share owner patrons. Urban then sits down in his chair and the DTC DJ stops playing the music. SILENCE fills the dance hall. Everyone is stunned at this man's generosity.
Urban and all the retail shareholders are resting comfortably because they have chairs and are all seated. The DTC DJ looks out over the dance floor and says all of those sitting in their chairs will receive the .05 per share cash dividend. We grin gleefully at all those bad people standing on the dance floor with nowhere to sit because we know they will not receive the cash dividend.
Roger the Bouncer has already advised the DTC DJ what to do next. The DTC DJ announces that anyone on the dance floor without a chair must pay the .05 cash dividend to the DTC DJ as a penalty for dancing without a chair. Although they won't be able to get a chair, sorry only so many chairs, the people who are SHORT a chair and pay, will be allowed to leave the dance floor and go on their merry way.
Those that can't pay the DTC DJ will not be allowed to dance anymore and also they will not be allowed to leave the dance floor until they are further dealt with by Roger the BOUNCER. OUCH ! One thing about Roger the BOUNCER...he always gets the money due for dancing on the floor without a chair..ALWAYS !
It is a deemed a most brilliant method of clearing the dance hall of the wanna be dancers. After Roger the Bouncer has dealt with the tough guy illegal dancers, Urban tells the DTC DJ to start the music again and the PARTY of a LIFETIME commences.
Well something like that must have happened somewhere...LOL
Oaks (aimho)
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Thanks mex, glad to know you have power to keep verbal terrorists and theives off of this board! This board is improving every day with great posts and posters!
Mortgagehoopster, appreciate your post! I agree wholeheartedly with you and I believe we are in the right place at the right time! Your perspective on riches is true, "unto whom much is given, much is required". May God bless you and yours abundantly!
Mach, I believe your post and report from the race is the first I have ever read of a quote from Urban himself that the core results were that good! Until now it is all second hand or Melvin eluding to the results being excellent. I made a post the day before your report from the race stating that I believe we have more than just potential . I stated that Glenn and Urbans actions indicate an ace in the hole! Not just potential, but I believe core results indicating that we have a profitable minable pipe waiting. The next step would be to keep it under wraps and aquire as much kimberlite rich land as we can (per the arial survey). Glenn is moving forward with Urban because the drilling shows we are in the money! Now its the game of aquiring another barrel or two full of fish to shoot at! Yes, more and more land! Becomming reporting company mergers likely! Share structure announced! Moving to the big board! Core results and announcement of open pit mining operation! Thanks Mach for your post and work! Can anyone say to the moon alice!!!
Can the MM's(cmkx) continue to keep the price down towards end of August or do they have no option but to go ballistic with it? Any comments. I understand the dividents should force them to cover but I wonder if they can continue with their games?
Doc, I thought Tramp got you, was worried he got past the keg of beer and the kentucky fried!
kimberlit..just a repost!not my "work"
EXCELLENT MACH, have fun!!!
zent a guy saying something was better than expected is not insider info! you sold? or u still in?
Mach, test results to me would mean of core samples? Maybe the ones that were under lock and key or undisclosed as of yet I would take it.
Question Mach, was wondering about Urban saying he couldnt believe how good the results were, and he kept calling, was he talking about results of airial survey or results of core samples? Excellent post and work Mach - VERY GOOD!!! pros777
race update (mach mentioned also)By: Bellingus
24 Jul 2004, 12:49 AM EDT
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CMKX ~ Race Update
It was one of the hottest days I’ve ever experienced in Washington in the 12 years I’ve been here. Hung out with several investors, including Easyanswers and MachCobra. It was good to actually associate faces with our RB Nicks.
Nitro funny cars are ungodly loud, fast and smelly monsters. It was really too hot to stay in the stands very long. I did see Jeff race though. He held a qualifying position when I left the track and returned to the pit. The heat was just too much.
Met Ron Casavant and he welcomed me and gave me a Got CKMX? T shirt. He told me Urban was due soon.
UC showed up a little before four o’clock. Mach Cobra went and introduced himself, then several of us joined in the conversation. First, let me say this. This guy is a real, down to earth person. I listened mostly at first. I believe Urban truly believes that to get what you want, you really must help others first. I believe he not only talks the talk, but walks the walk. He truly likes people and makes everyone feel special.
We talked about current events – what’s happening. Obviously there were some questions Urban just couldn’t or wouldn’t answer. He had no comment on the O/S. I asked him if his association with Rodger Glenn goes back several years (something I’d read on the main board) and he wouldn’t comment on that.
He talked quite a bit about their efforts to become a reporting company. Mach asked if they would be on the Big Boards and Urban wouldn’t comment. As for when this would happen, he commented that it’s mostly out of his hands waiting on things out of his control like the SEC and the attorneys.
I asked if a buyout was a possibility. He perked up and said that it was always a possibility, and said that the price would be determined by a proxy vote. Each shareholder would get one vote regardless of how many shares s/he owned.
He said that there are a lot of PRs coming in the very near future. One thing he said that was very interesting was, if anyone wants to really understand what’s going on with the company they should go back and carefully read all the PRs from the past year. They tell the story.
There were a couple of posters who asked me to ask some questions. Wallstreetblues asked what Urban’s opinion was of actually holding Certs. I asked him this. As a trader I didn’t much like the answer. He said that if everyone would request certs it was his opinion that the short situation would be eliminated very quickly. He also said that if you absolutely knew that you were in this for the long haul that holding certs was best.
I didn’t get a chance to ask about the 3rd drilling site, Brown1972, I got the impression that this might be a question he would have passed on and IMO, it might be one of the upcoming PRs he spoke of. I will bring it up tomorrow if I get the chance. Lead-or-follow asked about dividend ratio. Someone else asked about it but Urban wouldn’t comment. Also no comment on CIM going public and flyover findings. He did say however, that CIM had a VERY bright future in zinc. He’s very upbeat about the dividends and the value they hold for people willing to stick around.
I have quite a few notes here. There is more but it’ll have to wait. I’m beat. Oh, I specifically asked Urban how many shareholders there were. He said a lot. I pushed a little and said, is the number around 85,000? He said, “I have no idea.” Also, I asked if he ever reads the boards, and he said he didn’t used to, but he has been more and more lately. He laughed and said he understands how it can be addicting.
Obviously, he didn’t give out any inside info. I have been able to type this out without once even thinking about slicing my wrists. I had full faith in this investment before today and that faith is even stronger now. I’ve probably got enough other stuff to make a post about this size. There’s nothing earth shattering, but it is all interesting and some of it might help answer some questions and concerns. Right now though, I need to sleep. I’ll post it soon.
Oh, didn’t see Sterling as I heard his plane was delayed – maybe I’ll get to meet him tomorrow. And I did get some good pics that I’ll be uploading to a Website near you soon. GLTA
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Mach, looking forward to your update!!!eom
CMKX...great post!!......Posted by: jon_e_og
In reply to: None Date:7/23/2004 4:08:21 PM
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PLEASE READ AND COMMENT ON: this is quite long but I think it's well worth the read...
MY JEFF/Urban/Naked Short theory:
First, we need to go back about a year:
1) Jul/03 - CMKM files "Certification and Notice of Termination of Registration" Form 15-12G with SEC. CMKM becomes a non-reporting company.
- What does this mean? Well, for one it could have been a ploy by Urban to cover up heavy dilution, and insider option/warrant grants and thus make this one of the largest pump & dumps in pink sheet history. Personally, I don’t believe that Urban could perpetrate such a scheme and have the bravado to have personal meetings with shareholders, advertise the company through a racing team, and get one of the top Securities firms on board. IMO, it was for another purpose…to disguise his actions from the MMs or hedge funds he believed were naked shorting this and in doing so brought it down to the .0001 x .0002
2) Aug/03 - CMKM announces share dividend payout for CMI.
Aug/03 - CMKM announces 2 for 1 foward stock split.
Urban’s first attempts at reconciling the Naked Short position…either there was none at the time or they completed disregarded the CMI dividend and their obligation to either obtain CMI shares or cover CMKM shares.
This is where the trading begins to get interesting, especially the volume…looking at a 2 year chart we see that beginning the end of August/Early September 2003 trading volume picks up immensely and not just because of the 2 for 1 split. It goes from 100’s of millions to billions of shares traded every day.
3)
Sept/03 - CMKM announces six billion shares are being retired back to treasury.
Nov/03 - CMKM announces over twenty billion shares have been retired back to treasury to date.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces 16.5 billion shares officially retired to treasury.
September is exactly the time that the volume picks up…probably because of all these shares being returned to the treasury. Now if the volume suddenly surged from millions to billions and its all buy volume (the company buying back its stock) then how come the price of the stock went down to NO BID x .0001 ?
Urban thinks to himself - what the hell is going on here? I’m buying tons and tons of this stock and the price is going down?
Now Urban being experienced in the market, and probably having friends who deal in securities starts to realize what’s going on…His stock is being cellar boxed by offshore hedge funds naked shorting it like crazy(thinking it will go bankrupt, underestimating the company and the FALC region).
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It is around this time that Urban starts to concoct a plan…start buying the naked shorts, pull certs, and return them to the treasury(thus the buy backs in November/Deceember). He probably uses a MM to do this…And that MM was most likely JEFF. People who have been in this stock for a while remember JEFF being a large net buyer over the last year at the basement level(.0001)
The dilution issue: If you believe that Urban used this time to dilute than he was doing it while he was retiring shares…a little counter intuitive and if proven is grounds for showing that he in fact manipulated this stock by releasing info about a buyback while diluted this stock into oblivion. Thus, if this was proven I’d call this a scam and Urban a scam artist. BUT, I do not believe this happened because 1) I think Urban is a fairly respectable person(from what others have said) and 2) he could make a lot more money from concocting a plan to elicit one of the largest short squeezes in history.
Now, some will argue that he has been Using JEFF recently to dilute. But this as well doesn’t make sense since JEFF has kept a strong lid on the pps…if he were diluting or dumping his own shares he would allow the pps to run up over .001(we’ve certainly had the demand to do that) and raise twice as much capital, or make twice as much money.
Now, JEFF starts buying up the basement @ .0001 or maybe even less and starts accumulating 100’s of billions of naked short shares
Just look at the volume for the last 9 months or so…it has to be a couple trillion…not saying there are that many shares out, just that a massive amount have been traded…and being that dilution doesn’t seem the likely cause, than process of elimination leaves us with the short issue.
Now Urban has bought back a decent chunk of the O/S as well as a good piece of the Naked Short shares. Remember this thing was in the cellar for almost a year and there were billions of shares being traded every day – those shares were coming from somewhere; either 1) they were coming from the treasury i.e dilution 2) they are naked short shares. It can only be one or the other; either Urban diluted this into the ground or offshore hedge-funds working together with corrupt broker/dealers have shorted this into the basement trying to bankrupt it. I geuss it’s all a matter of personal opinion. If you honestly believe Urban is a dishonest person and a scam artist and had the nerve to Issue some 450 billion shares to the general public after publicly stating he was in the process of retiring shares than this whole theory is bogus. But if you don’t believe that than the only possible alternative is a large naked short position
4) June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces It Has Retained D. Roger Glenn, Partner at Edwards & Angell, LLP as Securities Counsel
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces It is Retaining a Large New York Law Firm to Represent Its Interests.
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Edwards & Angell, LLP. and CMKM Diamonds Inc. Begin Work
This is the strongest evidence to support our theory of a naked short position. CMKX is a small pink sheet company that was rumored to be a scam. It blows my mind that one of the leading securities firm, and a partner of that firm, with profound experience in securities law & corporate governance would take on a client like this. Glenn’s law firm would never allow CMKX as a client unless they had ‘something’. Something that was going to overweigh the risk of taking on a pink sheet, something that would put Angell & Edwards, as well as Roger Glenn, at the forefront of the securities world.
I believe, that Urban bought back and returned to the treasury a good deal of the O/S through JEFF and then proceeded to buy a ton of the naked short shares. Urban knows the O/S and he knows the number of naked short shares through the transfer agent who is responsible for keeping track of the company’s stock, whether in be in cert form or in a brokerage account. Now if you were planning the largest short squeeze in history, would you want to release the O/S and the NS position to the entities you will be squeezing? Of course not, that’s your ammunition, you have one up because you know both what is real and what is fake(if any)
Now, after Urban was satisfied with what he had accumulated he then went to Roger with the certs returned to the treasury, the actual O/S(from the treasury register), and the TA’s report of the number of shares held aggregate in brokerage accounts…
The T/A was reported as saying 400 billion O/S. This is probably true but may be the OUTSTANDING and not the ISSUED. If indeed there are naked shorts than the outstanding will not be the same as the issued. Because what is aggregate in our brokerage accounts is the outstanding, but it’s not necessary what the company has issued.
Once Roger looked over the evidence he realized what he had here…a chance to make history, for himself and for his firm.
5) With Glenn at his side and probably after a lot of work hunting down the MMs and broker/dealers responsible for assigning valid cusips to bogus shares, Urban in short(excuse the pun) tells them they are royally screwed.
The MMs and broker/dealers realize the situation they are in and report back to their hedge-fund clients what’s about to happen. The hedge-funds either say ‘F you’ to the MMs and broker/dealers, saying it was their responsibility to make the affirmative determinations as to the availability of the security being sold short, or they said - please help us out here.
In any event I believe there were numerous meetings with Roger, Urban and the culpable short sellers who threatened to not cover their shorts and tie the matter up in costly litigation that could easily swing the MMs way if they were to use just a smidgen of the money created from the naked short selling to hire one of the best securities team in the legal world. Urban and Glenn did not want that, it would leave the issue in limbo giving the hedge-funds the ability to cover cheaply or continue manipulating the price.
So they come to an agreement for something of a partial covering situation by the MMs at a low price, of less than .001
They would allow them to buy back say 250 billion(random geuss) shares through the market maker JEFF at a price that would suppress demand for the stock and keep the price low giving them a chance to cover and buy a good deal of retail shares as well at these low prices.
Why would Urban let them get off so easy? 1) The MMs and guilty broker/dealers most likely threatened to tie this up in court 2) He wants to raise capital for the company: .0005 - .0001 = .0004(profit) * …billion = a lot of money for expenses, explorations, buy outs, legal fees etc. 3) He needs the market makers to be on his side in the future 4) We would still have a massive short squeeze because of the drastic decrease in supply as JEFF’s shares are being bought to cover and immediately destroyed.
5) July/20 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc., to invest in Casavant International Mining, Inc. Declares Dividend For Shareholders
July/18 - CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces Dividend to Shareholders of Record Date and Option Agreement
Now, here it is - the deadline… either the MMs weren’t covering or Urban felt they have had enough time already so he forces them to cover by August 20th.
He allows JEFF to keep selling and keep the price down so as to allow as many new investors to buy in and old longs to add to their position. Anyone buying before August 20th is going to receive a huge dividend, a dividend that sets a value to the company, forces short positions to be covered, and gives a definite timetable to what is going on.
In conclusion; this is all merely speculation and just my opinion. I was looking back on what went on and what is going on now and it just seemed to make sense…All I know is naked short selling is a problem, and has destroyed thousands of companies. All the evidence hitherto shows a large number of shares in the publics hands… a number of shares that seems so large there are only 2 possibilities
1) Urban has issued over 400 billion shares since his last filing of doing just the opposite, making this one of the largest scams/pump & dumps/corporate printing presses in the market’s history. This in turn would create a myriad of legal action against Urban, his coconspirators, and one of largest and most prominent securities law firms in the country. I feel that if the O/S of this company is anywhere near 500 Billion this is indeed one of the largest security scams in American history, and Urban is not only a scammer but a conmen among conmen. IF he has the audacity to print up over 400 billion shares after saying just the opposite, and doing it in such secrecy he is not only a conmen of Enron-like proportions, he will be one of the most hated men in America. He has met with hundreds of shareholders face to face and put his credibility on the line numerous times; if he is in fact lying to us all I surely feel bad for him, his family, and his friends, for as it stands thousands of investors have put their trust and money in his hands and if he blatantly spits in their face there will certainty be hell to pay
2) There is in fact a large naked short position that Urban, Glenn, and JEFF have been dealing with for the last year. If this is the case this stock will make history for 2 reasons 1) it will be the largest short squeeze in history, consequently creating vast amounts of wealth for CMKX investors 2) it will mark the beginning of the end of naked short selling and offshore manipulation of American companies.
Again, this is all speculation but seems to make sense to me…If in fact what I say is only partially true then we are in for one hell of a ride and all I can say is – prepare to be astonished.
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