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a billion???? where the hell have you been? this company was up to 9 BILLION with another 5 BILLION in a credit line to be added. Oh course they would have a piddly 900 million for the buyback! DUHHHH!
Glad to see you are on high alert...
You just validated what Ivana said....
I need a fix! either a Lee Webb bash or a PR. I am beginning to get suspicious that Rufus really does have an attorney now - and he told him to shut the heck up! I'm surprised he is listening - what was that statement about lawyers he made on MN1 or Subpenny - Something about lawyers brains were made of ????
HEY! Back it up! what does this mean??? I haven't heard this one yet, although I did hear that investors in dire straight that are really hurting needed to contact the Shareholders Committee.
<<He promised to buy 'em back at 3 bucks a pop! cool.>>
Does that $3 refer to after the 6:1 gift?
I did hear he had 900 million bucks set aside in some trust for a buy back...I believe some class action attorney was VERY interested in hearing about that part...
When you play musical chairs, is it usually to the music of
10k, 10Q,
Any day
it will be due!
Isn't it easier to dance than do paperwork?
It's boring as hell...
Dimension was that you goofing around and pretending to be Ladytrader?
That doesn't surprise me. Rufus actually uses the posters on HSM to do his DD. I am NOT joking. He is SO impressed with their abilities! I even read some of his requestes to look up things for him. He mentioned you couldn't PAY people to do the sort of research they do. LOL!
The HSMers are on to Ourstreet being part of the RICO ring! They plan to collect damages on that one! I believe one poster mentioned 2 or 3 x's damages.
Amazing the number of original pumpers from August that have dropped out of sight...And a few are posting in a rather skeptical manner. Better late than never?
What's interesting is that most will not bother now to sell their shares - when they compare what they could have had to what they have now they say it is not even worth selling. I do believe people will be wallpapering their bathrooms with the Certs.
I doubt it...she ALWAYS YELLS when she mentions bashers.
Her demons don't need enhancements...
software changing his voice.
FESSUP! who is this on Subpenny???
This is NOT ladytrader on Subpenny. totally different voice than the other time she called - which also didn't sound like her. Someone goofing around.
No, there was something specific in the merger agreement and fraud. Rufus (on Subpenny) said Mike used the fraud claim by the SEC to exercise his shares and that he didn't blame him. It sounded like Rufus was saying he took the SEC doc and showed them to the TA in order to exercise them. He said he would have done the same if it were the other way around. Obviously this is just what Rufus said, so I can't guarantee it happened that way. Just repeating what I remember him saying.
I'd look for the exact clause in the merger agreement, but I am feeling a bit lazy right now. Maybe later...
I thought that comment about suing AFTER the SEC proves the fraud was interesting. How was Mike Alexander able to exercise his preferred shares based on the allegation of fraud? Interesting that the merger agreement had a clause like that in there. Seems to me the fraud would have to be proven first to act on a violation like that. Mike A did exactly what many of the pumpers said NOT to do - to say Rufus was guilty of fraud.
Just my thinking out loud - any comments?
I was about to call DWP on his comment (LOL!). but for this reason, he had the wrong PRINCE!
Ask him if he got the info about the SAUDI prince businessman from Stingermissle...
A quote from Stingermissle:
hey fellow longs, I hope everyone is doing super, sorry about you phil, it sux will miss u.
just wanted to tell you guys that while I was checking stock forums; you know daily routine, I saw an arabic forum of middleeastern investors; mainly SAUDIarabians, who trade in US markets. I speak arabic BTW, and you won't believe the boom CSHD has done over there. Kept googling for other US middleeastern stock forums; all in arabic, and there is literally a link of CSHD on each very active daily. Just a quick look at those forums tells you the number of international investors interested in CSHD is large!!. what came to my attention is a son of the famous SAUDI Prince Buisnessman "Alwaleed Bin Talal" is actually talking about supporting his position that currently he is in. I don't know how many shares he bought so figured I would ask him. So I registerd for the forum and asked him of how much he bought? he refused to tell me but rather told me that he also daytrade of around 30k or so. He actually has a long position with CSHD. I don't want to bother you guys about who is Alwaleed, google it for fun. He is mad rich and an insider for a number of big Co.s in the US.. Ohh well, sleeping pill is taking effect right now
anyways, GLTA and see you tomorow. it is now 2:30 in the morning in the middleeast. Need to get some sleep. :)
Will he change his name back to WOLFE! That would be most fitting! Add another wolf in sheeps clothing.
Screw the SEC - I think it is time that Rufus' WIFE stepped in and stopped all of this!!
Just curious - are you posting that BS as a joke? are you just pulling our leg? I am starting to think so...You obviously like attention, even if it is negative attention. Have you sent in your resume yet to Rufus for the PR position? I think you should....
TUT's latest assigned "duty"?
Nov 7th, 2006, 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
Actually I am now at the point after witnessing these kind of abuses for so long that I believe something that has never been done before should be planned. A full blown protest MARCH organized to head straight to the headquarters of the SEC and believe me that will get powerful media attention and make the country finally take notice.
<<Two assets here worth owning - the financing business and the NSS forensics. Each, if/when monetized, are gushers considering current share price.>>
NSS FORENSICS??? I hope this isn't the forensics performed by HSMers. I hope it isn't about the NSS that were PRed and posted on the website. I hope HSMers realize just because Rufus is using them for his DD that they are somehow qualified to do any "NSS forensics".
Seems pretty risky to be screaming about NSS and throwing out numbers that were admitted publicly to be an error, and Rufus proclaiming that the short elimination had been taken care of without the promised Mother of All Short Squeezes ever happening.
Perhaps this will turn out to be the poster child case for the SEC to prove that failing companies will use NSS as an excuse for their failure when the NSS problem didn't exist to begin with.
I do believe that TUT's new "duties" include organizing a demonstration in Washington D>C>, since he is the one to bring that up prior to any PR about it.
Time will tell, time will tell.
Never mind, I found it - TIASPICKS. That's one I am not quite familiar with. Perhaps they were banned.
Do you know when Bodi/Bodizifa will be posting again? Or is he in the secret club house with the rest of the gang?
You are the monkey - ever here of that game Monkey See Monkey Do? Well you play it very well!
Hey Voodoo, I was curious about this post - who was the one that said this about you?
Voodoonola
Aug 11th, 2006, 07:54 PM
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Voodoonola for a guy that can only swing trade 15000 and not enough balls to hang in a stock more than 2 to 3 minutes yoru quite a mouthy little prick.
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MOD Don't forget this jewel from the "KID.":LOL:-----------------------------------------
He's telling you not to feed the monkeys - Cindy and Janice. You spoke to us, that's a bad thing. You will be reported for that activity. Be prepared for HSM punishment.
Here's the "bashers" post that TUT wanted banned by sending the secret signal to the MOD -------> "!!!"
Today, 02:42 AM #12188
tutankhamen
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Remember, Tut may be a character who is part of Rufus's scheme to help keep the shareholders to hold through all of this. We have never gotten any proof of his "groups" and he has not revealed himself. Just speculation, but you never know?
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"!!!"
Just found it:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
I have only begun! Bashers beware! Watch for my "!!!" Paul are you watching. It seems the bashers are getting extremely nervous now that they "know" this is real and they are about to be "fried". The cobra is very hungry right now especially after have given birth to a few more hungry fangs.
Does any one know what "!!!" means? It's a post by TUT. Looks like he wants to have fun just like Rufus.
Today, 01:38 AM #12173
tutankhamen
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 462
Shareholders stay calm. I have not left you. I will post something later.
Equine Solutions? Yeah, it was listed. but I also have asked if the stables were even owned by CVSU. In one of the financials it said the Derby Stables were on a lease option. Rufus told Simon that HE owned 27 horses and told him how much money he was making on his horses.
Hey TALLROB! I see that you are stealing my material and not giving me any credit! Aren't you at least a little embarassed when you were complimented on that post? About time someone took notice of something you had to say (even if it wasn't your idea) LOL!
Is Hititup around?
Would that mean YOU could have been the one losing all this money now?
I saw another poster comment that if you sold you couldn't sue. that certainly is NOT true. As long as you have proof you LOST money you can sue. You don't have to lose it all!
That has already been done numerous times - especially by Phil.
These types of posts are really really disturbing to read.
Today, 01:04 AM #12119
The Dude
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: New York
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I am sick to my stomach with this crap. Promises, promises. I got to explain to my friends and relatives on Thanksgiving why they lost their money. Should be a great day, Not to mention my situation, ...I'm dead thanks RPH, and committee.
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I hear ya... to be honest. I would kiss it off as lost money. Dont even look at cshd. Maybe it will be ok? Dont let cshd take any more from you. Its taken enough...just forget about the money...hope it works out. Rebuild. Your health is worth far more than this.
"As far as the filings are concerned he stated that we’re not a Bulletin Board. Are we out of NASDAQ requirements by not having filed it? Yes. But if you file it right now at this point in time, what the SEC’s next move would be is to automatically seize the company."
Does this mean if he filed something it would be in violation of the injunction? A fraudulent filing? and that's why the SEC would seize the company? ?So he won't file anything?
Hey, I see this as a positive. Rufus has NOT given up his belief. He is saying exactly the same stuff he has been saying all along. He is consistent, that's for sure. Even the name dropping - a most powerful law firm.... - did I notice "potential" though?
Interesting he is talking about having FUN - wonder if he has seen the posts from some of his loyal followers on HSM. They definitely are NOT having fun. They are physically sick over what is happening. They definitely are paying for Rufus to have FUN.
Maybe Delusions of Grandeur isn't an exaggeration.
Shareholder Committee Update - November 20th, 2006
I would like to update everyone on calls that the Shareholders Committee made with Mr. Harris and the activities of the Shareholders Committee. We have been in constant communication with Mr. Harris. He has been very accommodating with his time for the Shareholders Committee.
We formally recommended to Mr. Harris to file the requested documents with a Market Maker to rightfully return our company to the OTCBB. His response was the corporation’s current court status prevents the recommendation of the shareholder committee. Your recommendations will be addressed on Monday, November 20, 2006 during a 12:00 Noon meeting with a potential Washington DC Law Firm. Thank you for the committee’s cooperation; the return of the Corporation to the OTCBB will hold 1st priority upon status change of the corporation with the Federal Court. I will respond with the time frame fulfillment of your request as soon as possible.-S- Mr. Harris Paul Harris
Chief Executive Officer
Mr. Harris stated that he had attorneys on retainer but wanted to add to the legal team. There will be retentions with multiple firms that will be retained within the next twenty-four (24) hour time frame and that’s when the fun begins. He met with a very powerful law firm today from Washington D.C. His exact words were he was tickled to damn death with the people he dealt with today.
As far as the filings are concerned he stated that we’re not a Bulletin Board. Are we out of NASDAQ requirements by not having filed it? Yes. But if you file it right now at this point in time, what the SEC’s next move would be is to automatically seize the company.
We asked him about some kind of dividends to the shareholders that are hurting. His response was any ideas and recommendations from the Committee will be looked at seriously.
We told Mr. Harris that we have heard a lot of things like this in the past, Sir, why should – what faith do we have that this is actually happening. Mr. Harris replied you’re just going to have to evaluate it all and make your own decision. If you feel in that way, then you should just look and evaluate it, then make your own decision whether you’re comfortable with it or not. That’s my answer. If you’ve seen things in the past that you’re uncomfortable with and if you think we’re – things that went on that was outside our control that you’re uncomfortable with, then make your decision. I’ve said that all along to everybody. All I can tell you right now at this point is: This is, for me, where the fun begins. So for the shareholders, this is where validation comes.
Mr. Harris also said: I’m ready and (inaudible) – all we’ve got to do is respond. And when we respond, don’t expect – it’s not going to be anything small. And if we have to – from there, we can do anything of any type. I’ve already talked to – if played out, the next week in this process is going to be a big learning curve for everybody. So – and they’ll be happy with it. There is no negative result. The only negative result that could come out of anything is if all the bonds wasn’t real, and it’s like I pointed out to people who have asked me questions about it in the past: it’s awful funny, every time I go to talk to an institution, they come up wanting to buy the damn thing. So, you know – and then the SEC wants to holler “fraud perpetrated.” How does the issuer of the bonds perpetrate fraud on their own bonds? That’s my only question.
Copyright © 2006 CSHD Shareholder Committee - All Rights Reserved
www.cshdshareholdercommittee.com
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Thanks for the post! Great explanation on how things are being traded now. doubt Leslie/shawn will read past the first 2 sentences. He/she is still trying to figure out what that ringing in his/her ears means. A little too much cowbell is my guess.
Most of the main early on pumpers are now hiding out in the password protected treehouse - where they don't get challenged for leading people to the slaughter house. A tough lesson for some on these people. Not surprised when Elliot McDonald was talking about getting a lawyer - seems he was not in the "inner circle" like he thought.
Definitely a meltdown from some of the longs that feel like they have been had - not just by Rufus, but by Phil and his crew. remember our Hardcore rookie? Listen to him now...it makes me sad...
Today, 10:07 AM #9485
edbri871
HSM Enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 900
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Originally Posted by murphra
is this performing to your standards??? I didnt buy this stock to be down 85% or whatever it is today. But to sell now would be pointless - at this time me and many others are in till the end. but we are not happy and feel let down - in many ways.
Agree, but for some reason, Phil and other longs here only want us to post our praise for the company here. They get pissed off if we, the owners of this company critisize our CEO, or the way the company has handled the entire SEC situation. We own this company, remember, and have every gosh darn right to speak our minds, show them how we feel, and let them know that in our opinions they have mishandled nearly every situation thus far.
This is a forum for crying out loud. The point of most forums are to get a wide array of views and opinions, not just opinions from those who have yet been able to remove the blinders and see that somethings are not adding up. I'm sick of and tired of the bullies in this thread jumping on and attacking anyone who has doubts in a company that has been charged with FRAUD by the SEC.
Remember there is a major difference between a basher who doesn't own the stock, comes here trolls and posts meaningless info, and someone who owns the stock, is down 80-95% and is pissed off at the way things are being handled.