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I have not been involved with many stocks that have divy since most have been pennies and it just seems a bit more rare to have divys among pennies. I feel sorry for those who sold this am then, if you say they wont honor mondays pr. they held like the pr said to do, until eod monday, they should get what the pr said was coming to them. oh well, I guess they could rebuy, but they may not even see this new pr, so they are probably sol
art2gecko, wouldnt they have to honor who owned it eod monday as well, even if they sell before eod tomorrow, since the original pr said eod monday
whoever sold this am should get screwed? doesnt seem right, if the company said eod monday was good enough.
I mean if they dont have to honor shares held monday a company could announce that you have to own Monday, then on thursday after many holders have sold... come back a pr something that says the new date is eod friday. they could screw everyone who sold from the first pr to the second if they dont have to also stick by the original pr, right?
correct me if Im wrong, but they would still have to honor the record date of July 3rd for people who sold this morning, or whoever dumped 7 million shares is going to be a bit upset, since the original pr said eod July 3rd. they would have to also stick to that.... wouldnt they?
I think they did a good thing by doing that, lets more people get the opp.
so the pay date is the 10th, what is the date of the 6th? did they extend the date to own ipre in order to get the mlmd divy? I dont follow the way the pr is worded. thanks
Im a bit confused by today news, are they extending the day to own ipre to tomorrow eod in order to get mlmd shares? what is the july 10th date about? Im not sure I follow the pr
or is that just telling us the pay date
banana your exactly right, comparing whiskers to possibly being the next free willy is a total joke, so that basically shows you how credible that report is. free willy is probably one of the top movie like that of all time. take into account when it was released, and what it would gross if released today. movie are much more expensive today than in 1993, so it would gross much more today.
how can you project 100 million to a movie that is not only not even done, also as far as I know doesnt even have a full cast yet. so you project the 100 million from a story line? the whole thing is a total joke, it may do that much, anything is possible, but to project those numbers on the public is wrong
its like when a new basketball players coming into the NBA, plays a year or two and they say they are the next Jordan, but yet none of them have lived up to the hype. why do they even compare the two in the first place? media is a crazy thing
J-rhino we know what happened to that estimate, just missed it by a BIT :)
did the company (ipre) print what they said it was worth? if whiskers turns out the same as atin from this estimate, we are in big trouble
since they also said atin would do 22 million, I will be taking the 100 million for whiskers with a small grain of salt
undervalue, can you please post when and where they estimated whiskers to be a 100 million dollar movie, I dont remember reading or hearing that at all, thanks
on a side note, mlmd has a much nicer looking site than ipre, ipre needs to spice up the home site to look more professional, like they are actually producing 50 million dollar movies. if i was a big investor doing dd on ipre and went to the home site, I would be turned off, it looks like a 10 year old put it together in a weekend. it may sound harsh but if you see it you have to admit it should be much nicer looking.
all just my opinion
that is the problem with mlmd currently, it can run so fast on such little volume, its an easy pick for a group pick, they can run it up with a few grand and unload it on everyone for a nice profit
mlmd is up 50% today, but yet it doesnt show in my account so I guess I dont care, what I do care about is that ipre is down 20%, that does show in my account
tell me what the price is when its in my account, its a mute point before
what if, what if ipre takes the r/s off the table, get siir done and sells it for the 30 million range and the stock soars to .35 and they gave it time to go up by itself instead of trying to force the price up with the r/s, and once the pps hits .35 they will realize they never needed to do a r/s
we can all dream, good luck with yours, I hope mine comes true as well
I will care what the pps of mlmd is when its actually in my account
mlmd just did trade at .35, it moved up 45% on 2,000 shares. so obviously its a bit misleading. since when does 700 bucks move a stock 45%. talk about a rollercoaser stock.
florida if they extended it tomorrow to eod wednesday, they would almost have to honor whoever held at eod monday. because some may have bought monday to only sell wednesday, so they get shares of mlmd, and the pr said as long as they held by eod monday. they may have put in orders after hours monday for a wednesday morning sale. not sure they can change things now. or if they did would have to honor the monday record date as well as wednesday record date
just my opinion
if james cares what 50 people on a message board think about him he has some serious issues. i really dont think he cares about our comments.
xr4t8 how many are in at .001 average or below, I bet less than ten percent, so your figures dont add up, Im getting a quarter for every 3.60
banana, i form my opinion from this
where will the shares of mlmd come from to give us?
where will the shares come from they said they are going to sell to pay for whiskers?
so thats dilution right? does the price go up on dilution? so there is a good chance the price would go down, so why not get your money for mlmd while you can before it gets to the levels of ipre.
and since many will want to get some money from mlmd shares before its fully diluted many will sell and cause a big dip
that is my opinion, just going off past experience. we will see if Im right in the next month or so.
ipre-paramount, lets say wednesday was the record date, when would it run up... wednesday, but if you need to hold to get your mlmd you cant sell right? so when would it crash, thursday. so how can a flipper make out? the only way would be to sell wednesday and miss out on the mlmd shares, they are not going to sell at a loss thursday, are they? and some just around for the divy may see ipre for the first time and keep it and become longs
also what do you think will happen to mlmd when everyone gets their shares, I would be willing to bet they line up to sell and it takes a big dive. so what good is that?
flipping doesnt make sense because you wont get a divy, and the price of ipre isnt going to keep going up after the record date, so what you bought for the divy you almost have to hold unles you want to take a loss. or unless you want to flip and not get the divy, it all works out the same I guess.
just the way I see it maybe Im way off base, but I have my own opinions just like everyone else
banana, Im not crying out for myself, I will be getting the free shares of mlmd, Im crying out for the longs who didnt even see the pr. didnt have a chance at a good opportunity, a chance to make up more ground on their loses. but we know most where away on an extended weekend. and even if they where not away, they where probably not glued to the computer screen on a half day in the market. they where probably off work and spending time with family, most people probably only check their account once or twice a day. to be honest, when I crack open my ameritrade account and it shows all my symbols, I dont open each to see if they have news, UNLESS the price is trading up or down more than usual. but ipre was trading at .0009 most of the day, so no reason to see if they had news.
Im complaining/fighting for the people who missed the opp. because of the timing and time frame of the pr. I will be getting my shares. Im not complaining about that. Its my opinion that many longs missed out on a good opp. because of this pr being released when it was and having to own by eod monday. so if you where not at home for that 3 and a half hours you lost out on a good chance to get some ground back here.
none of my other stocks had prs monday. the timing of the pr seems odd, if they TRULY wanted to reward investors they would have extended the record date to eod wednesday.
it has nothing to do with flipping, if you flip, you loose you mlmd shares. so it would make no sense.
all just my opinion
rckhnd you cant buy back shares you just sold so you could have some money, they used that money, they dont have more to buy back shares. they wouldnt sell shares to turn around and buy them back a month later
tag I said SINCE the r/s pr came out. up until then I was down a different amount but that 600 is from when that specific pr came out... get it, my point was I would gladly act like that pr never happened if it ment giving back the divy, I said the r/s pr cost me 600, I was already down before that pr. I did average down after I bought in at 0053, I bought again in the .0024 range. my average is in the mid .003s, should I average down again...maybe, but i believe it will drop again after the r/s is complete so I want to wait before I risk more. I have risked enough on speculation
I dont care if others are down 10,000 and Im only down 1,000 my 1,000 might mean a lot more to me than 10,000 to others, I have just as much right to be upset and post how I feel about the stock.
believe what you want I really dont care. Im not here to make friends. so I dont care if you like me or not. apparently you and others failed to read my post correctly, when I said I was down a certain amount from a certain date.... that was to show what the r/s pr did to me alone, and why I would gladly give back the divy to take that r/s off the board, get it?
tag that figure is only talking about how far it dropped since the r/s came out, from .0026 to .001, thats not taking into account how far it dropped to get to .0026, I originally bought at .0053
yeah and they also didnt have to a do a r/s, if its to get the price higher to get to the big boards within the next year, why not wait to see where the movies take us, see what the pps is when SIIR comes out, that could easily take us high enough to get to a bigger board.
they didnt have to do that r/s. they didnt have to give us a divy, but I would gladly give back the divy to get the r/s taken off the board. that r/s pr dropped my account over 600 bucks, that divy will add about 150 if i could dump it right now for the current price. and Im confident if I hang on to mlmd it will be worth much less. where are they getting to shares to give away? top that with dilution to pay for the movie, what will it be worth?
no they didnt have to give it to us, did it take off the sting of the r/s.... slightly. did they have to do a r/s after they diluted the crap of of ipre, not likely. should we send him a thank you for that as well?
all just my opinion
maybe james didnt get any thank you from longs because a bunch of them didnt even see the news yet, since they are away for the extended weekend, Im not sure the ones who get home will want to thank him, they may have a bitter sweet feeling, sweet because they got free shares, bitter because they didnt have a chance to pick up more ipre to get more mlmd, because the timeframe to pick up ipre was such a small window. again why I think the window should have been open to eod wednesday, despite what you think it has nothing to do with trying to flip. why would you flip if you need to hold to get your free shares? bottom line is that they released the news on a half day over an extended weekend, and many may feel cheated out of an opp. to get more ipre/mlmd since they were not around to see the news, since no one expects such a pr to be released on such a day. heck none of my other stocks had prs yesterday. and none of the divy prs I have read started and ended in the same day as far as telling people when they had to own the stock by.
they gave people 3 and a half hours to pick up more ipre, was that really long enough? if it was given to take the sting off from the r/s, didnt they hurt the longs opp. to get more ipre to cash in on this opp.? why not extend it to eod wednesday or start it and end it on wednesday? they knew what they were doing releasing this yesterday, I wonder what the true thinking behind it was.
personally I own enough of ipre to get a decent divy, but I think many longs would have liked to picked up more on this news given the chance. from the lack of volume I dont think many even had time to see the news.
I dont think mlmd is worthless, I do think many will line up to sell it as soon as they get it, and that will crash the price, the price will also suffer from the sale of shares the company said they would have to pay for whiskers, personally I plan on holding it until that movie is out. althought it may be best to sell it right away if you can get .15 a share from it. it may be hard to get it back to .20 after major dilution
all just my opinion
I wonder if the brainiac james realizes you dont release this kind of news on a half day of a holiday weekend, what is basically what today is, and you dont have the time frame to get ipre ending today, as you can see by the total lack of performance from todays pps and volume this was the wrong move.
before he calls other people names he should look in the mirror, no real pres. would release this pr today. but then again by his words in the email we can see hes not a real pres. hes a kid. and has a lot of growing up to do, and need to get more professional.
no buying pressure today, and low volume for this kind of pr, bad timing, and you want to call others names, too funny. I thought the volume would run this time of day, its not even trading, wow way to go james
oh wait there goes a 5000 trade at .001, oh boy 5 bucks
all just my opinion
florida is that last paragraph really from our president, is he really that unprofessional? man that is so scary. what a joke
last 45 minutes to get them? by the looks of the volume no one wants them, or no one is home, great timing with the pr james you genius
people will be lining up to sell mlmd once they get it and it will drop like a rock.
all just my opinion
divy pr and it may not even trade 50 million today. its trading like a day without a pr. guess we will see what other ipre longs think of this when they get home on tuesday night. they may feel cheated out of an opp. since they didnt figure companies would do much if any prs today, and not a pr like this that starts today and ends today.
i have only seen 30 or 40 prs about divys in the past, I dont remember any of them pr'ing a divy in the am and telling people they needed to own it by the eod that day. they always gave a few days notice. this seems so odd.
i will still take my free shares, hopefully when the movie comes out they will be worth something.
good luck
the diltion on mlmd to pay for the movie will hurt a lot more than the divy, just look what happened to ipre, from about the same price mlmd is at now, to under a penny after ipre diluted to pay for SIIR. ilook for the same in mlmd in the next few months. just my opinion.
I only own 16 different stocks, so far ipre is the only one that has a pr today, that should give you an idea of the timing. no one else is releasing prs today, I will benifit from this news. I just think the timing could be better. and if not the timing the time frame of extending the time to own ipre to eod wednesday, to get the divy. its just my opinion, Im not complaining, just looking at it objectively
you know you can feel good about a stock but still judge certain things in a "negative" way, some people just dont like to see anything negative posted on the boards
tag10577 for starters, I hold plenty of ipre, bought a bunch at .0008, second, why would people bail on the run? they need to hold the rest of today, so they cant bail today. if you cant bail, it would run up nice, bail and no divy.
what cant I have an opinion? just because its not all rosy? is it not ok to judge something, unless its all positive? you honestly think the timing and time frame of this pr was good? good for us? good for other ipre holders on holiday?
insanity, these "flippers" sometime hold the stock, they would sell mlmd and hold ipre, once they did some dd and see what we had going for us. whats the worst that could happen, it runs up and drops back. whats the best, its runs up and holds, or keeps running. Im willing to take the risk of the worst case to have a chance at the best case.
the more people you get in here the better. interest alone. and how about the current ipre shareholders not home today? they also miss out on an opp. because of the time frame
negative energy? so your saying today was a good day to release this news? stocks run on this kind of news, but they release it on a short day, and holiday (basically) and it ends today. nothing negative about that just telling the truth, it would be much better on wednesday. wouldnt you rather it run up with big volume? well it probably wont happen, if no one is around to see it. no trades for last 20 minutes should somewhat prove my point.
Im just saying how I see it, you may not like to hear the truth. the thinking behind this news today is odd, it would be different if they said you need to hold ipre by eod wednesday. we could have a nice run from news like that. just from the divy groups alone
all just my opinion
friday or monday I would say
i would guess we have a lot of volume at close. its 1 pm eastern right?
the total lack of volume proves this was not a good day to release the news, the divy sluts are on vacation. they alone would make us run up. oh well, better than a sharp stick in the eye
mlmd will not be worth much in the near future, they are diluting it to pay for the movie, dilute to pay out the divy and the many with the divy will dump asap, the ones that only bought ipre for the divy... it will drop a lot in the next few weeks. maybe sub penny. hopefully that movie will take it back up, good luck, and thats just my opinion
im just saying we could run much better on a full day, many are not even at home today being a holiday weekend. you can tell by the volume no one knows, divys make things run, many buy just for that reason. it would have been better for us shareholders for this to be released wednesday morning.
just my opinion
i would say the split is next monday
this news would have been much better on wednesday, not many will even see this news today. never seen a company give people just 3 and a half hours to get a piece of a divy, just my 2 cents
domerfan I dont think for a second what I post can influence a stock, I dont think any poster on any board can change the direction of a stock, and if anyone believes they can they are a fool.
I completely agree with you that the stock will do what it does reguardless, and I dont think someone who actually wants to invest in bkmp will not do so because a few posters on some public message board have a problem with each other. if they invest by posters opinion from a stock board they are probably fools, I will never make an investment decision from a poster telling me how to spend my money, and I would never expect anyone to make a decision from what I say
these boards pretty much have no effect on stocks, imho. this stock has 1000's of investors, this board has maybe 100 regular poster on bkmp.
all just my opinion