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CORRECTION to POST#124
Sorry, I went to Ameritrade Charting and looked at AMEP again. It showed AMEP as being down for 5.5 years. The maximum price was $1.80/share NOT $8.00/share. Wanted to clarify, as to not miss lead any one.
I don't know where the $8.00 figure came from, unless that was its worth after a R/S or maybe one of the charts is just flat wrong.
Thanks,
Hilander
OK, sounds good. Lets take them one at a time. If one of them is an oil stock, I'll take that one. Maybe, we could divide them up between ourselves. We don't need to get in a hurry, after all it's holiday season.
Cheers
Its funny, the companies that are down for 3 to 4 years will only go up again when it suits the MM or the big boys are ready for them to rally. We just have to figure out when to be there to take the ride. Ted Warren, an old timer said something like, you have a better chance of making it with a company that's been down for a long time. He figured the company would have already gone out and if its still around, its got a good chance of making it again. Those are just the types of companies he looked for.
AMEP has been down 4.5 years. I like the fact it was $8 before it hit the skids. Its definitely been down long enough where it could turn loose any day. I'm not looking for any of my stocks to turn around until 2007. After all, its holiday time. The big boys aren't seriously interested in the markets now, they want to party.
Cheers
I watch stocks I own or anticipate buying. If I don't own the stock, I usually won't watch it on a regular basis. Of the stocks I own PHEI seems to have the most similarities to Unico. I probably shouldn't of bought PHEI, but seemed right at the time. I figure, maybe that dog will hunt yet. When it rally's I'm out of there. With any luck at all, it won't R/S before I sell. I prefer trading a mix, so I have something to play with. Unico is definitely my long term favorite and plan on being there for a long long time. I also like owning several other stocks to keep one year or less. It gives me something to do and keeps me motivated. Otherwise, my attitude is, might as well go back to my broker.
SUGGESTION: If you are not already doing so, please be aware of the first 8 to 10 words you post. This will make it easier for each of us to keep track of the subject matter. I don't know about you but one day I looked 2 hours for a particular post which I never found again because I couldn't remember where I first saw it. So, this taught me a lesson, to index any posts I thought I may want to refer to again later. For instance, I will label my next research stock as STUDY#2. That way any comments relating to that study will be easily recognizable especially if we have more than one going on at a time. Don't want to be too "A-Typical" but I think it will help us all in the long run.
Also, Tecch10000, thanks for your feedback on STUDY #1. IMO, all constructive comments are helpful in putting the pieces of this puzzle together.
Thanks,
HIlander
STUDY #1 (PHEI)
OK, I have one company to report on. Here’s the snapshot of the situation. I don’t know yet if they were financed privately through convertible debentures. They report having spent $30M on R&D. Lets see what we can collectively learn from this exercise.
Phantom Entertainment Inc. OTC BB: (PHEI)
Market Cap. = $ 4.4 M
Shares Outstand. = 945.4640 M
Friday’s Closing Bid = 0.0048
Volume shot way up 2 days in a row this last week. Why? Are the shorts covering their positions?
Thursday’s 11-30-06 Trading Volume = 50M+ shares
Friday’s 12-1-06 = 126,526,417M shares traded
(PHEI) Market Makers Level II Quotes:
LAST=0.0049
HIGH=0.0055
LOW=0.0031
MPID………..…...BID…………..….ASK
HDSN …………..0.0048…………....0.006
UBSS. ………..…0.0047………...….0.005
SBSH…………....0.0045……...…….0.005
NITE………….....0.0045…………….N/A
DOMS…………..0.0042…………….0.0055
SSGI………….....0.0041…………….0.0058
SALI………….....0.004..……………..N/A
HILL..…………...0.004……………...0.0055
FRAN…………....0.004…………..…N/A
ETRD…………....0.004……………...0.006
VERT.…………...0.004………….......0.007
QUIN…………....0.003…………......N/A
SEAB…………....0.003……………...0.007
VFIN………….....0.003……………...0.006
GARC…………....0.003…………......0.0075
ABLE………….…N/A……………....0.006
PERT………….…N/A……………....0.0065
STOCKCHART: (formation looks like it’s may be ready to bounce)
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=PHEI&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=0
OVERVIEW:
Developing and seeking to commercialize the Phantom Lapboard, a wireless, rotating custom keyboard/turntable with integrated mouse pad. We have not yet generated any revenue from operations. Our ability to generate revenue in the future is dependent on our ability to successfully develop and commercialize the Phantom Lapboard. We still retain assets with respect to the Phantom Game Service and when various milestones for the manufacturing of the Phantom Lapboard are completed we may shift more of our focus to the Phantom Game Service. The Phantom Game Service is anticipated to be the first end-to-end, on-demand game service for delivery to the living room.
Phantom Entertainment, Inc. has been on the OTCBB Naked Short Threshold list 6 times. Brokerage firms have been out of compliance with Regulation SHO twice.
From January 2005 to November 2006, approximately 2.6 billion total aggregate shares of PHEI have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $219.4 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 196.8 million shares. The Total Short Interest reported on October 10th, 2006 is 28,954. The PHEI Squeeze Trigger price of $0.086 is the volume weighted average short price of all short selling in PHEI. The first of several short squeezes is expected to begin when shares of PHEI close above $0.005, where approximately 17 million shares of PHEI have been shorted.
Definition:
Squeeze: A market situation in which the lack of supplies tends to force shorts to cover their positions by offset at higher prices. Period when stocks or commodities futures increase in price and investors who have sold short must cover their short positions to prevent loss of large amounts of money.
WHAT’S IMPORTANT HERE? (See any similarities to UNICO)
• It appears PHEI like UNICO weren’t able to do anything about the NSS problem until now.
• It appears both companies are ready to take off in 2007 and leave the shorties in the dust.
• Watching and waiting for these companies turn-a-round: Once the company establishes squeeze trigger prices, is this a good indication that they are about to rebound? If so, it appears to be their only defense against defeating the naked shorts?
THE GOOD NEWS:
1. SqueezeTrigger price of $0.086…(as stated above)
2. The first of several short squeezes is expected to begin when shares of PHEI close above $0.005…(as stated above)
Observations:
How does a short squeeze relate to PHEI, UCOI or any other company in a similar situation?
From my viewpoint, it appears that once the company establishes the squeeze triggers, that gives us investors a target to watch the shorts run for cover.
AS IT LOOKS TO ME, PHEI AND UCOI ARE POSITIONING THEMSELVES TO LEAVE THE SHORTS BEHIND IN 2007?
COMMENTS AND CONCLUSIONS:
This is all I have to report and have nothing else to say. Is there anything else to learn from this example? Does anyone see anything else that will help in analyzing this naked short situation? IF SO, for easy access in the future, please start your post with the heading:
PHEI (Comments & Conclusions)
Thank You,
Hilander
OK, sounds good. Will let you know when I have something concrete to post. Must do some investigative work first.
No thanks, let me know how it turns out.
"Shorters are not welcome here". That is a ground rule set up from day 1 and pretty much sums it up. Its not Greek, I read it loud and clear. I understand it loud and clear. So should everyone else who posts on this site. "They" have been forewarned and should not be surprised if their posts disappear. After all it is the holiday season. Lets be cheerful!!!
Have a Good Weekend & A Great Holiday Season,
Cheers
MARKET MAKERS (MM) LISTING: Have been wondering for quite some time, who are these guys controlling the OTCBB Stocks.
Every broker I've ever talked to has said, "Oh, we don't buy OTCBB stocks and We DO NOT buy any stock unless its par value is $10/share or above".
Am wondering who came up with this rule? Is it being preached from the pulpits of every brokerage house? If so, then why? Is it like fencing off your property, to keep kids from playing in your back yard? I don't know, but it sure sounds fishy to me. Maybe you know or maybe someday I will meet a retired stock broker who will spill the beans and enlighten me on what they're hiding? (If anyone can answer this question, please help me out here).
For months of watching Level II Quotescape, I kept wondering, who are these guys I watch day in and day out trading the same stocks I'm trading? After starting a list I noticed these guys are trading every stock I own with the exception of three. And on those three there was no Level II activity at all. NONE, Zip, Nada. I wondered why? Were the MM unable to penetrate those markets because the company owned 51% of the shares. (Am'still wondering about that?) I started a list and after several weeks of observation, it stopped at 44. I should probably make a TOP 10 LIST but for those of you who know what I'm talking about, you will spot them immediately. Here's just 44 from a list of over 3,000 registered to do business.
TOP 44 LIST
MPID................Name................Location..............Telephone...................State
ABLE Natexis Bleichroeder Inc. DOMESTIC 800-221-3365 NY
AGIS Aegis Capital Corp. NASDAQ OTC DESK 212-813-2006 NY
ARCA Archipelago Trading Services, Inc. OTCBB 312-442-7700
ARCX Archipelago Stock Exchange 312-960-1318
AUTO Automated Trading Desk Financial Services, LLC 843-789-2080
BAOM Banc of America Securities LLC SAN FRANCISCO, CA 415-627-2900
BEST Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc. OTCBB PINK SHEETS 212-272-4975 NY
BMIC Biltmore International Corporation 732-287-6535
BNCH Benchmark Company, LLC OTCBB 212-312-6700 NY
BRGE Newbridge Securities Corp. FT LAUDERDALE, FL 954-229-9818 FL
CLYP Carlin Equities, LLC NY
CRTC Capital Group LLC STAMFORD, CT 203-569-6494 CT
DOMS Domestic Securities, Inc. EDISON, NJ – OTCBB 732-661-0300 NJ
EDGX Direct Edge ECN LLC JERSEY CITY, NJ 201-356-1714
ETRD Trade Capital Markets LLC OTCBB 312-431-1268
FRAN Wm. V. Frankel & Co., Incorporated NEW YORK, NY 800-631-3091
FSWC First Southwest Company DALLAS, TX 214-953-4100 TX
GARC ICAP Corporates LLC 800-937-0087
GNLN Gunnallen Financial, Inc. TAMPA, FL 813-600-1420 FL
GSCO Goldman, Sachs & Co. OTCBB 212-357-4402 NY-Jap-Arbitrage
HDSN Hudson Securities, Inc. JERSEY CITY, NJ 800-624-0050 NJ
HILL Hill Thompson Magid and Co., Inc. NASDAQ 800-631-3083
INTL INTL Trading, Inc. OTCBB 800-327-5703 Orlando, Fl
JEFF Jefferies & Company, Inc. NASDAQ 972-701-3100 Stamford, Ct
JPTC J.P. Turner & Company, L.L.C. OTCBB 404-479-8321|
MAXM Maxim Group LLC OTCBB 212-895-3874 NY
MERI Merriman Curhan Ford & Co.OTCBB 646-292-1409 NY, San Fran.
NACI North American Clearing, Inc. 407-774-6281
NITE Knight Equity Markets, L.P. BULLETIN BOARD 800-232-3684 NY
OPCO Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. NASDAQ-OTCBB 212-422-7813 NY
PERT Pershing LLC|BULLETIN BOARD 201-413-2700 NJ
SACM Sterne Agee Capital Markets, Inc. BOCA RATON, FL|800-930-3536
SALI Sterne, Agee&Leach, Inc. NASDAQ-OTCBB 800-239-2408 Alabama
SEAB Seaboard Securities, Inc. NASDAQ-OTCBB 973-514-1699 FL.
SBSH Citigroup Global Markets Inc. NASDAQ 800-223-7743 Deritives
SSGI Seton Securities Group, Inc. NASDAQ 732-739-3800
TASL Tradition Asiel Securities Inc. NASDAQ 212-791-4770 NY
TDCM TD Waterhouse Capital Markets, Inc. OTCBB 800-500-3905
UBSS UBS Securities LLC OTCBB-PINKSHEETS 203-719-8710
VERT Vertical Trading Group, LLC NEW YORK, NY 212-918-1202 NY
VIEW Viewtrade Securities, Inc. BOCA RATON, FL 561-368-6061 FL
VFIN Vfinance Investments, Inc OTCBB-PINK SHEETS 800-487-0577
VNDM Vandham Securities Corp. WOODCLIFF LAKE, NJ 201- 782-3310 NJ
WDCO Wilson-Davis & Co., Inc. NEW YORK 800-290-6875 NY
WEED Weeden & Co.L.P. NASDAQ/OTCBB TRADING 203-861-7650
WMIN Westminster Securities Corporation NASDAQ 800-445-6749
*MPID: Market Producer Identification Symbol
*For those of you who counted, there are 46 listed, but 44 sounds better to me.
To See Entire List of 3,040 Brokerage Firms (47 Pages) Go To:
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dynamic/SymDir/mrktsym.txt
GB, Very impressive! THANK YOU, for setting up this message board. Talk about transparency, this board shows who's REALLY serious about trading. For over 10 years I've been looking for a "Master Mind Group" to be a part of. It doesn't get any better than this.
BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF US!!!
Hilander
Surf, Thanks for noticing. I assure you I'm here every day monitoring from a distance. I'm not going anywhere. Some days I may feel like Rip Van Winkle and other days I don't feel I have anything to add to the Board. For today, it's nice to see everyone in a positive state of mind!!!
Am'still Long & Holding Strong
Hilander
Now, I know what you mean by stuck up.
Hey Bucko, don't get carried away, some people may not believe you when you say that Unico will have a 1000% increase. To be conservative, lets just start with a 100% increase per day and a 1,000% increase per month or so. I believe we would all be very happy with that for starters.
NYBob, I do like the way you think!!! Thank you for making that point so clear. I agree we are way over due for this bull to run.
Lone H, have voted against a reverse split 3 different times with 3 different companies. In each case the company performed the split. IMO, the directors always get what they want. Usually, they have enough clout to control the majority votes or can keep postponing the vote until they get the final result they want. I don't like reverse splits either but sometimes we find ourselves stuck and there is nothing we can do except make the best of the situation. From what I have been able to determine, I truly feel like the Unico longs have made the best of this situation, (averaging down when possible). I trust the worst is over and the best is just around the corner. (Lone-it looks like you have a pretty nice portfolio to get you thru till Unico scores).
Am'still Long & Holding Strong
Surf, thats true, I've noticed when a stock is up its only up about 10 percent of the time. The rest of the time is like caring for the garden, spending very little time harvesting.
Surf, I understand and am averaging down as we speak. I'll be happy once I get it to a dime. What do you consider to be long term investing for Unico?
Surf, I really liked your analogy and would like to complete one thought. Refer to the sentence " ...but most all do this and if you are in one you loose most of your investment". Yes we all have bought "dogs" which I always keep at least one in my portfolio to remind me that I didn't choose wisely. Now, lets just talk about Unico for this example.
Yes, if most of us sold Unico today, our investments would be a total loss. Then that loss should be declared as a tax loss at year end close out. However, since Unico has been expanding their mine operations for the last two years I assume that's why we are all here. We as investors bought company shares to help the company raise money to expand the mill operations. In my mind that equates to a company loan. If I'm patient my loan will be repaid after the mine is back in full production with a bonus. And that bonus is the entire reason why I'm here. The key word is "patience". If I cannot afford to wait for my loan to be repaid, then I should not of chosen this type of investment.
For further clarification on this topic google: The 4 Phase Lifecycle of a Stock by Clive Maund dated May 8, 2006. The article will explain why company shares rise and fall. These comments are strictly my opinion and yes we all have one.
Am'still Long & Holding Strong
Surf, nice post, you've just outlined Day 1 of Stocktraders Class 101.
Here, Here Piranhas2, very well said! Thanks for the post. Its important to remember, we all have to reshape our attitudes from time to time to stay on top. Be assured we shall overcome. Only the strong survive. Keep up the good work everyone.
Am'still Long and Remain Strong
IMO, sometimes you just have to believe you've made the right investment decision. QUIT beating yourself up that Unico has not rallied yet. If you bought Unico to make a quick buck, its not going to happen. For those of you who need to revive your hurt pride, find another stock that will give your ego a boost of energy. Unico has all of 2007 to make this happen. At this point we longs have to stick together and have faith in Unico's management team. What can we do? For now, maintain patience and watch this video:
http://www.212movie.com
Am'still Long and Holding Strong!
Thanks GB for putting a stop to those frauds. After deleting at least 10 junk emails, it bothered me thinking they were trying to infect our computers. Since, I use a Mac I'm supposed to be resistant to viruses and worms. So far so good. The junk mail happened only one day.
Matt55, "Now thats what I'm talking about", I like this kind of analysis...That should make the nickel and dimers think twice about selling their shares too soon. Thanks for the post.
Holding Long,
Hilander
Buylowe, I understand and appreciate your honesty and quick response. I trust in the near future everything will become crystal clear. In the meantime maybe some of the old timers will volunteer some information from past years experience that will help us find a few more pieces of the puzzle that fit. If there is one thing I've learned from buying Unico stocks, its patience, not something God handed me freely.
Holding Long,
Hilander
Buylowe, Your comments were very interesting but you haven't even primed the pump for us new guys. I'm curious because I was not around in 2000 and wonder if you remember anything pertinent that can be compared to now.
Q1. Did you own Unico stock when it went to $25.00/share in 2000?
Q2. If so, what was it like? Was there a high trading volume? (As I remember there was only some 50M? outstanding shares then).
Q3. Can you draw any conclusions from then to now? (Since we are in the start up mode again).
Sometimes, I feel like I'm putting a jigsaw puzzle together, gathering one bit of information here and there. I bought Unico for the long haul and do not plan to sell out for a nickel or dime profit. Anything else you or your friends can share at this time would be of great interest.
Holding Long,
Hilander
With a name like LOLOMAI, sounds like you could be living in Hawaii.
Mountain air sounds pretty good to me, maybe better than the tropics. Its currently 85 degrees, hot and muggy with high relative humidity. From the looks of this weather report there won't be any snow flurries unless The El Nino Effect kicks in. The mill can start up any day now, no worries.
Holding Long,
Hilander
Piranhas 2,
Glad to know being "snowed in" is not a factor. I spend most of my time in the tropics so my terminology is a little off for you mountaineers. I rarely go to the mountains but if I were there, am sure I'd be "snowed in" due to thin skin.
Thanks for the clarification,
Hilander
I am a long investor talking to other long investors. Unico has been increasing the number of outstanding shares on an as needed basis for the past 2 years. They have been raising money to fund the construction improvements at Deer Trail Mine/Mill. The dilution will not stop until the mill opens for production and they have enough money to cover operating costs. The only challenge I see currently is, IF production does not begin before they get snowed in, then we will have to wait another year for production to begin. Personally, I think these guys want the mill to start as bad as we do. They are fighting against the clock and the weather.
This is my opinion and educated guess, as I have been watching this stock for 27 months.
Am still holding long!
For those who do not know, we are currently experiencing a "UV Ray Pulse Through Our Earth".
"The ultraviolet pulse beam is a wave of Light that traverses the planet, so no matter what time zone you are in, the important times, will be the same. For 17 hours, from approximately 10:17 a.m. on October 17th until 1:17 a.m. on October 18th
our thoughts and emotions will be amplified ONE MILLIONFOLD. The peak time will be 5:10 p.m. on October 17th."
So, for the remainder of today, tomorrow and everyday thereafter, I extend my appreciation to Unico for all their hard work in getting the Deer Trail Mine up and running. I wish everyone, the best of luck in finalizing all permits and all related work to begin production in a safe and timely manner. Finally, that everyones hard work and dreams will be fulfilled. And each of us will receive much joy, laughter, health, wealth, happiness and abundance from this business venture.
I will continue holding long!
Thought the last time Brown & Hartle bought was the bottom. Makes me wonder if these guys are spending their own money or the company is handing out early X-Mas gifts. Lopez hasen't bought in the last eternity, who's going to be next?
If you go to:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=hogc&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=0
It looks like it could go to 0.04 before the bounce?
or
Maybe, this is the bottom? Am'still waiting to find out.
Here's another company fighting against naked shorting. It would be nice to have a news release from Unico about their naked shorting, but for now this will have to do. One might be able to draw similar conclusions about Unico's situation?
Phantom Entertainment, Inc. (PHEI) SqueezeTrigger Price Is $0.105
PR Newswire - October 16, 2006 09:05
Approximately 159.1 Million Shares Shorted Since January 2005 According to BUYINS.NET Research Report
SEATTLE, Oct 16, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Phantom Entertainment, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: PHEI) announced today that BUYINS.NET, http://www.buyins.net, is reiterating coverage of Phantom Entertainment, Inc. after releasing the latest short sale data to October 2006. From January 2005 to October 2006 approximately 2.1 billion total aggregate shares of PHEI have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $216.3 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 159.1 million shares. The PHEI SqueezeTrigger price of $0.105 is the volume weighted average short price of all short selling in PHEI. The first of several short squeezes is expected to begin when shares of PHEI close above $0.007, where approximately 5 million shares have been shorted. To access SqueezeTrigger Prices ahead of potential short squeezes beginning, visit http://www.buyins.net.
Phantom Entertainment, Inc. has been on the OTCBB Naked Short Threshold list 5 times under the symbols IFLB and IFLBE. Brokerage firms have been out of compliance with Regulation SHO once. Regulation SHO took effect January 3, 2005, and provides a new regulatory framework governing short selling of securities. It was designed with the objective of simplifying and modernizing short sale regulation and providing controls where they are most needed. At the conclusion of each settlement day, data is provided on securities in which: 1) there are at least 10,000 shares in aggregate failed deliveries for the security for five consecutive settlement days, and 2) these failures constitute at least 0.5% of the issuer's total shares outstanding. SEC Regulation SHO, under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, mandates that, if a clearing agent has had a fail-to-deliver position for 13 consecutive settlement days, that clearing agent, and the broker/dealer it clears for, must purchase securities to close out its fail to deliver position.
Am still here and holding long. Will continue to until I see some serious green. Have been in the red for sooo long, I quit counting the months. In reality, don't expect to see green until 2007 because the holidays are just around the corner. The people I know in the construction business don't get much accomplished during Thanksgiving, X-Mas and New Years. Keep on keeping long.
Cheers
I suspected the stock price would drop to 0.0192 because of Wayne Hartles fill. The question is where is it going from here.
It hit bottom at 0.062 and is headed back up.
I believe your right Bobby Baccarat. I'm ready and waiting to buy more. Have been holding long for over 2.5 years. Another few weeks won't matter much in this situation. When it finally goes, there will be no looking back. I will not be one to say, Oh, I should of bought more.
Best Regards To All Longs,
Hilander
No offence taken Goldenbollox, just trying to figure out when to buy again because my overall average is way too high. So, I bought 150K more today and plan on doing same tomorrow. I appreciate your comments and holding long.
Questions about the bounce. According to the Sharp Charts UCOI has been set for a bounce since Sept. 6th. Today's Sept 25th chart also shows its ready to rebound. When I compare both charts where the price meets the volume I never see more than 7 days of entrenchment.
Q1. What happened to the other 18 days where the price meets the volume? They disappear from the daily and weekly charts. Its as though they start over every week.
Q2. Shouldn't todays chart reflect 19 days of entrenchment instead of only seven?
Q3. When UCOI does bounce, at what price level should we expect it to meet resistance?
For those who saved these charts, please study this and explain what you think is happening?