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900 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...IRMA EXPECTED TO TURN TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST OVERNIGHT...
9:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 27.1°N 81.8°W
Moving: N at 14 mph
Min pressure: 942 mb
Max sustained: 105 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
(linked in):
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134504863 and following
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134511122 and preceding (and any future following)
conix -- good news, indeed -- still plenty of significant impacts, but nowhere near as bad as it could have been
now we get to watch and see if Jose does the predicted loop-de-loop, and where it goes then if it does ( http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134506364 )
IRMA MOVING NORTHWARD NEAR FT. MYERS... ...DANGEROUS STORM SURGES EXPECTED IN AREAS OF ONSHORE WINDS ALONG THE FLORIDA WEST COAST...
8:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 26.7°N 81.7°W
Moving: N at 14 mph
Min pressure: 942 mb
Max sustained: 105 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
(linked in) http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134506315 (and any future following)
700 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...EYEWALL OF IRMA HAMMERING FORT MYERS...
7:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 26.6°N 81.7°W
Moving: N at 14 mph
Min pressure: 940 mb
Max sustained: 110 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
600 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...WATER LEVELS RAPIDLY RISING IN NAPLES...
6:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 26.3°N 81.7°W
Moving: N at 14 mph
Min pressure: 938 mb
Max sustained: 110 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
IRMA NEAR NAPLES FLORIDA... ...DANGEROUS STORM SURGES EXPECTED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE EYE PASSAGE ALONG THE FLORIDA WEST COAST...
5:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 26.2°N 81.8°W
Moving: N at 14 mph
Min pressure: 938 mb
Max sustained: 110 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
(linked in) http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134509053 and preceding (and any future following)
142-mph wind gust just recorded at Naples Municipal Airport
(per the National Weather Service as reported by MSNBC)
Here Are All The Records Irma Has Broken So Far, According To A Meteorologist
This geocolor image of Hurricanes Irma and Jose was captured by a NOAA weather satellite on the evening of Sept. 9, 2017.
One hurricane expert described Irma as a “heavy hitter.”
09/10/2017
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hurricane-irma-records-broken_us_59b48a93e4b0dfaafcf84e6a [with embedded videos, and comments]
400 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...CENTER OF HURRICANE IRMA JUST INLAND NEAR NAPLES...
4:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 26.0°N 81.7°W
Moving: N at 12 mph
Min pressure: 940 mb
Max sustained: 115 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
CENTER OF HURRICANE IRMA MAKES LANDFALL AT MARCO ISLAND...
3:35 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 25.9°N 81.7°W
Moving: N at 12 mph
Min pressure: 940 mb
Max sustained: 115 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
300 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...CENTER OF DANGEROUS HURRICANE IRMA NEARING NAPLES...
3:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 25.7°N 81.8°W
Moving: N at 12 mph
Min pressure: 936 mb
Max sustained: 120 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
BullNBear52 -- very fortunately for us, Irma's now a fair bit less intense and less well structured than it was for most of the time it was raking the northern coast of Cuba -- still a plenty bad situation that is having and will have very significant impacts, of course -- but if, on otherwise the same track, Irma's eye/eye wall had remained entirely over water just off of Cuba, and as a result Irma hadn't been worn down to the extent it was by its interaction with Cuba, . . .
IRMA CONTINUES TO BATTER SOUTH FLORIDA... ...STRONGEST WINDS EXPECTED IN MARCO ISLAND/NAPLES AREA WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS...
2:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 25.6°N 81.8°W
Moving: N at 12 mph
Min pressure: 936 mb
Max sustained: 120 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
BullNBear52 -- the northern coast of Cuba, in particular that archipelago along the northern coast which was directly impacted by Irma's eye wall for an extended period of time, was, unsurprisingly, hit hard
Cuba sees devastation as Hurricane Irma veers toward Florida
Sep. 10, 2017
https://www.apnews.com/c2284e85dbc3464ea517748fa9bb99bd/Cuba-sees-devastation-as-Hurricane-Irma-veers-toward-Florida
Cuba cleans up as Hurricane Irma tears through Caribbean
September 10, 2017 Updated September 10, 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/10/americas/cuba-caribbean-hurricane-irma/ [with embedded video]
more via https://www.google.com/search?q=cuba+irma&oq=cuba+irma
100 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...IRMA IMPACTING ALL OF SOUTH FLORIDA...
1:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 25.4°N 81.7°W
Moving: N at 9 mph
Min pressure: 933 mb
Max sustained: 130 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
1200 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...IRMA LEAVING THE FLORIDA KEYS AND HEADED FOR THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA COAST...
12:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 25.2°N 81.6°W
Moving: N at 9 mph
Min pressure: 933 mb
Max sustained: 130 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
IRMA HEADED FOR THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA COAST... ...WINDS CONTINUE TO INCREASE OVER SOUTH FLORIDA...
11:00 AM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 25.0°N 81.5°W
Moving: N at 9 mph
Min pressure: 933 mb
Max sustained: 130 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ [emphasis added]
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
*
meanwhile, the current forecast track map for Jose:
Coastal Watches/Warnings and Forecast Cone for Storm Center
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/145735.shtml?cone#contents [will update/remain current; refresh post for latest]
Vortex Data Message
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPNT2.shtml [emphasis added]000
URNT12 KNHC 100920
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL112017
A. 10/08:56:40Z
B. 24 deg 05 min N
081 deg 24 min W
C. 700 mb 2470 m
D. 119 kt
E. 046 deg 9 nm
F. 128 deg 120 kt
G. 047 deg 13 nm
H. 929 mb
I. 11 C / 3063 m
J. 21 C / 3050 m
K. 13 C / NA
L. NA
M. C22
N. 1234 / 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF302 2911A IRMA OB 23
MAX FL WIND 120 KT 047 / 13 NM 08:46:00Z
CNTR DROPSONDE SFC WIND 190 / 8 KT
MAX FL TEMP 22 C 269 / 6 NM FROM FL CNTR
EYE OF IRMA ABOUT TO MOVE ACROSS THE LOWER FLORIDA KEYS...
5:00 AM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 24.1°N 81.5°W
Moving: NW at 8 mph
Min pressure: 928 mb
Max sustained: 130 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ [emphasis added]
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
fuagf -- yeah, guess so; still, in the broader context an odd posture to adopt
IRMA TAKING ITS TIME MOVING AWAY FROM CUBA... ...LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE EXPECTED IN THE FLORIDA KEYS AND THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA...
11:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 9
Location: 23.5°N 81.0°W
Moving: NW at 6 mph
Min pressure: 933 mb
Max sustained: 120 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ [emphasis added]
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
Vortex Data Message
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPNT2.shtml [emphasis added]000
URNT12 KNHC 100249
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL112017
A. 10/02:36:00Z
B. 23 deg 26 min N
081 deg 03 min W
C. 700 mb 2506 m
D. 96 kt
E. 313 deg 10 nm
F. 043 deg 106 kt
G. 316 deg 14 nm
H. 932 mb
I. 10 C / 3047 m
J. 17 C / 3045 m
K. 15 C / NA
L. NA
M. CO16-24
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF302 2911A IRMA OB 04
MAX FL WIND 106 KT 316 / 14 NM 02:32:00Z
CNTR DROPSONDE SFC WIND 250 / 6 KT
conix --not I, ever -- and certainly, obviously, not with you -- and I do too listen -- may not agree, may fire back -- but do listen -- and duly note (though I freely admit I'm anything but sure just what if anything to make of that particular one)
1000 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...WIND GUSTS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE OCCURRING IN THE FLORIDA KEYS...
10:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 9
Location: 23.5°N 81.0°W
Moving: WNW at 7 mph
Min pressure: 933 mb
Max sustained: 120 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
(linked in):
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134501768 (very cool interactive surface wind graphics [though the wind speeds around the centers of the hurricanes clearly seem significantly understated; would be much closer to accurate if they were the same numbers stated as mph instead of kph] at https://earth.nullschool.net/ and https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=cape/orthographic=-67.41,20.89,1187/loc=-54.930,16.634 ) and preceding and following
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134501994 (and any future following)
rbtree -- y/w -- and wow, no, I hadn't -- very cool -- thx
900 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...WIND GUSTS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE OCCURRING IN THE FLORIDA KEYS...
9:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 9
Location: 23.4°N 80.9°W
Moving: WNW at 9 mph
Min pressure: 932 mb
Max sustained: 125 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ [emphasis added]
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
HEAVY SQUALLS WITH EMBEDDED TORNADOES SWEEPING ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA...
8:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 9
Location: 23.3°N 80.8°W
Moving: WNW at 7 mph
Min pressure: 932 mb
Max sustained: 120 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ [there now having developed a notable stretch between the min pressure, generally the leading indicator to max sustained, and the max sustained -- in comparison, Harvey (at landfall, http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134153536 ) was at 140 mph max sustained at 938 mb min pressure; Jose is currently at 145 mph max sustained at 945 mb min pressure ( http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2017/al12/al122017.public_a.018.shtml ); and Irma itself was at 180 mph max sustained at 931 mb min pressure ( http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134388506 )]
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
Renee -- y/w, and thx (eom)
700 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS OCCURRING IN THE FLORIDA KEYS...
7:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 9
Location: 23.4°N 80.8°W
Moving: WNW at 9 mph
Min pressure: 932 mb
Max sustained: 125 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ [emphasis added]
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
BullNBear52 -- thorough, long-time familiarity with the sources, and intense attention to detail -- this event merits the effort
and thx
Mariner* -- y/w -- thx for jogging me initially to gently remind me Irma would be a real good topic to share here given that I was already chronicling it over at my place
Mariner*, and all -- that radars one ( http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497225 ), with the forecast map/satellite/full list of references one following it ( http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134498134 ), provided as together a comprehensive reference to the full range of all the latest images/graphics/information, good for the duration of the event -- in each post, just refresh the post to see the latest graphics/images/loops
my ongoing updating (currently through http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134500178 ) continues from http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979 (my original of http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134498134 )
600 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS NOW OCCURRING IN THE FLORIDA KEYS...
6:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 9
Location: 23.4°N 80.7°W
Moving: WNW at 9 mph
Min pressure: 933 mb
Max sustained: 125 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
conix -- yet you voted for the Great Pumpkin rather than ol' Hillary -- according to some, the quintessential left-leaning centrist Republican
Peg -- without disagreement, he is (also) an idiot
of the worst sort, in the worst position
(at the risk of berating the obvious)
EYE OF IRMA BEGINNING TO MOVE SLOWLY AWAY FROM THE COAST OF CUBA WHILE WEATHER IS DETERIORATING IN SOUTH FLORIDA... ...MAJOR HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXPECTED OVER THE FLORIDA KEYS AT DAYBREAK...
5:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 9
Location: 23.4°N 80.5°W
Moving: WNW at 9 mph
Min pressure: 933 mb
Max sustained: 125 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ [emphasis added]
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071
Vortex Data Message
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPNT2.shtml [emphasis added]000
URNT12 KWBC 092020
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL112017
A. 09/20:06:42Z
B. 23 deg 13 min N
080 deg 27 min W
C. 700 mb 2543 m
D. 94 kt
E. 359 deg 16 nm
F. 084 deg 99 kt
G. 359 deg 22 nm
H. 935 mb
I. 12 C / 3060 m
J. 19 C / 3065 m
K. 15 C / NA
L. CLOSED
M. CO15-30
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. NOAA2 2711A IRMA OB 06
MAX FL WIND 99 KT 359 / 22 NM 20:01:26Z
SEC MAX FL WIND 85 KT; BRNG:360 deg RNG:65 nm
CNTR DROPSONDE SFC WIND 225 / 25 KTS
400 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE... ...WINDS BEGINNING TO INCREASE IN THE KEYS AND THE SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...
4:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 9
Location: 23.3°N 80.4°W
Moving: WNW at 9 mph
Min pressure: 938 mb
Max sustained: 125 mph
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ [emphasis added]
general Irma status and overview, with the latest forecast track map, satellite images and loops. and rainfall potential map, and a complete listing of linked primary sources for the full range of the latest information, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497979 [the post to which this is a reply]
complete set of the latest Irma radar coverages, images and loops, at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134497071 [the post before that]
Researchers Identify Gene for Awfulness
Photograph by Evan Vucci / AP
By Andy Borowitz
September 9, 2017
LEEDS (The Borowitz Report [ https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report ])—In a finding that has wide-ranging implications for society, British researchers at the University of Leeds announced on Saturday that they have identified the gene for awfulness.
The study, which focussed on one adult male and three of his adult children, makes a persuasive argument that there is a “powerful dominant gene” that makes people heinous.
“When we began our research, we wanted to find an adult male with pronounced characteristics of horribleness,” Alistair Dorrinson, the scientist who led the study, said. “In studying three of his adult offspring, we found that they were all carriers of the gene that makes one smug, tone-deaf, and oblivious to the fate of others.”
Additionally, certain subtraits of awfulness, such as an inability to tell the truth, appear to be genetically mediated, Dorrinson said.
“If the father is unable to explain honestly why a meeting took place, for example, the son who carries the same gene will also tell crazy lies about that meeting,” he said.
Hopes that the gene for horribleness might eventually become diluted as its carriers mate with the general population were dashed when the scientists studied the mating history of the adult daughter in the sample group.
“Unfortunately, those who carry the gene for awfulness are more likely to reproduce with other carriers of the same gene,” the scientist said.
© 2017 Condé Nast
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/researchers-identify-gene-for-awfulness
RNsidersbuying -- "Maybe they could run as a ticket: Blow/Hillary"
just a wee bit unclear on the concept there, are we?
(linked in) http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134440655 and preceding and following