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some follow through...a bit of luck...a miracle...what would u like to hear???
-PD
yes, ppl are likely expecting a down-tick back to .0001 ...that is why I rely on volume changes more than price changes...If the volume was higher today, I would think that .0002's can stick and we go up to .0003's ...but since there is no market demand at .0002, a retrace is iminent...Anyone know if they issued more shares yesterday? 800M is a lot for one day...
-PD
http://ca.us.biz.yahoo.com/iw/090130/0470145.html
So it looks like Feb and March are the months to note for this compmany...will expect a standstill till then...
-PD
this will go back down....
As the volume is sooooo low today, does one not wonder how the volume almost hit 1B yesterday with NO UNTICK (remained at .0001 )and now we have uptick to .0002 with 16M or so shares???...Seems that it is just MM's playing games today (to rope in ppl watching the 100%spike in pps)...Could yesterday not have been more shares being issued by the company??? Can anyone confirm if that is true or not??? Today's volume just seems too fishy (and low) to follow a 800M trading day yesterday...anyone else suspect of this or do ppl not want to say anything???
-PD
well, belief or no belief...In pinky land, the PR is all that one has to go buy...I certainly dont believe PR's less than I beleive what I read on most message boards...However, I make my opinions based on my own DD and research and most importantly...INSTICTS! so far, I have been fortunate...I rarely ever play pinks and only play those that stand out as 'gems', and hence minimize risk of exposure to the 'stinky ones'...If I make what I want to make, then my posts are more like good karma than pumps, and this play is a 'gem' play...We will see...
-PD
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080725/0419245.html
"...The Company will not contemplate a Reverse Split until such time as we can be absolutely assured that we can protect the stock price, post any split. In my opinion and based upon this Company's history of unsuccessful Reverse Splits, I will not be entertaining the idea of a Reverse Split at this time..."
-PD (am I the only one that reads these PR's !?!?!
That was before the CEO got sick off all the message board chatter and the lack of shareholder 'belief' in his intentions...with him gone, the one whom wanted all the changes, the changes become useless...dont they?
He left for very good reasons, and some of them were rumors that stemmed on these very boards...Almost like a haunting...LOL!
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080811/0423671.html
"...Alan Santini, the CEO of Fortress Financial Group, Inc. "wishes to place on record that no less than 90% of the communications that he receives from stockholders relate to postings that stockholders have read on Internet Message Forums. There is absolutely no doubt that a number of parties are desperately trying to cause this Company and its stockholders great damage, all of which is both sickening and despicable." Alan Santini wishes to place on record "that this Company will, under his leadership, continue to honor its promises to its stockholders, be as open and transparent with stockholders as is permitted by law; and that should stockholders be concerned over what they read on these Message Boards, they should check the facts with himself; prior to acting on these postings." Alan Santini added "that he has remained detached from, and will not be drawn into, this murky world that exists on these Internet Message Boards, with these so called paid bashers and their barrage of personal attacks; and despite stockholder requests to the contrary, he will no longer discuss this issue with his stockholders in any further Announcements whatsoever..."
-PD
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080724/0418971.html
"...Alan Santini, the CEO of Fortress Financial Group, Inc., commented, that he hoped that "This Extraordinary Dividend will go a long way to rewarding long standing stockholders who have watched their stock decrease in value over time..."
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080811/0423671.html
"...Alan Santini added that "he was eternally grateful to the very many loyal stockholders who have been and continue to support both himself and the Company." Alan Santini promises all of these loyal and supportive stockholders that he will not fail these many people who have placed their faith, trust and money in this Company..."
Janice, what is there to kid about? He seemed to be motivated to help the long standing stockholders...what better way than an extraordinary divi in a future gold play...whether Santini's intentions and efforts were realized is an entirely different ball park...
-PD
Thx V, u have worked hard here and this divi is being done for ppl like u...Alan did once mention that the divi was to show his gratitude to the loyal and long shareholders...A 2 year restriction will indeed ensure that only loyal shareholders benifit from this extraordinary divis final value...GL!
-PD
Well, if what they have planned is for real...FFGO will release the divi dates, let the stock climb, and then release the RM deal and eventually be gone into the sunset, rather than exist at 'no bid'...at that point, the divi promise will be met and the company will be free to be sold off as a RM shell to that apparent 'uranium company'...the script is perfect for this to happen now, if u ask me, and by the looks of the recent volume, the plan seems set in motion...There are three ways to play this...1. Dont buy 2. Buy and sell for flip 3. Buy and hold for divi ...That divi, once realized in a few years could be worthless OR could be worth a FORTUNE! ...One will not truely know unless they put their 'skin in the game'...and IF that divi turns out to be as valuable as promoted, I give cudos to those willing to take the risks in order to receive the rewards...business 101:No risk, no reward!
-PD
that is what u said when ppl hoped the bid would come back...Suppose everyone is entitled to their opinions...GL!
-PD
unless, of course, the final final master plan is to bulding hurasu into a real gold exploration company and once gold is confirmed then they may sell off to an actuall producer...if that producers give hurasu holders shares in that producing companies shares (as another divi) and the producing company is a big boy...well then, all Alan and the 'boys' are doing is getting a bigger and bigger piece of the pie...eventually, profits will be realized years from now, when the final restrictions are taken off those final divis in a big boy company and the holders are free to sell for cash...I could be dead wrong, of course, but that is how I see it...Aint hard to see, if you change your angle...Just sayin that things could be more 'real' than ppl actually think...
-PD
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=35198795
changing it is simply not their problem anymore as CEO is gone, and since RM is coming, the AS wont matter anyways...just a waste of time to do so...ppl are mistaken that this divi does not serve the best interest of the 'issuers'...they have massive amount of share, and will get the biggest piece of the pie...Not hard to see it, once looking at it fm different angle...
-PD
what do they care to correct it...the CEO is gone...long gone...the divi is just being done to complete prior promises...And dont think that the +20 billions of insider held shares wont get this divi...those shares are just as eligible to get the divi, and so is alans 2 billion...so as far as I see it, the divi WILL happen because the major benificiaries are the major holders, whom are not the retail investors like me and u, but the major holders of the company shares...We simply make a little, while 'they' make A LOT...dont think that this divi is being done entirely for social redemption on Santini's part....He and others have A LOT to gain in pulling through here...GL!
-PD
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080725/0419245.html
The CEO already answered this 5 Trillion AS comment a while back...
Q.WHY DOES THE COMPANY HAVE SUCH A HUGE AUTHORIZED SHARE CAPITAL
CEO Alan Santini's Answer, "...I understand that this is a historical matter. Obviously the Company does not require 5 trillion shares of Authorized Share Capital, this was an error made some time ago..."
-PD
I actually think that this can go past .0050 also ...However, it seems that many current flippers will be out wayyyy before then and new flippers will be in at higher levels and flip to even higher levels, and still others will take it and run with it to .0050 and beyond ....Which would u rather be...the flipper or the running back? I would prefer letting it run its course and welcome any thoughts of .0050 or higher... With divi of .0236 in gold stock and RM deal pending, numbers higher than .0050 are not that unrealistic ...stocks do make such incredible run$!!!!!Maybe this chance will be looked back as a multibagger, or maybe not...We will soon find out!!! $$$
-PD
big presumption...and yes, this is not rocket science...So far, 80M is hardly a dump...this stock hits +1B when it moves, why not presume that the dump has yet to come....however, if the stock rockets while billions are traded daily, that really is not regarded as a dump either...my understanding is that things are very quiet...one can hear a pin drop with this quiet pps! Game day has yet to come...Let's just relax while waiting...
-PD
what dont the MM's have to do with it...They dictate the bid and ask on both sides of the table...when they are ready (given the Que) they will lighten up the brakes and we may see above .0001 ...for all u know, the MM's could be swapping shares and simply keeping the volume alive...as the buy volume increases, MM's dump more to keep the price suppressed...so how do they not have their foot on the brakes???? Do explain...
-PD
the stock price is indeed at the mercy of the JV buybacks and company news releases (pending)...There is interest for sure, but the MM's have the brakes on max til then...
-PD
11M at .0001 is only $1100 dude!!!! Why so antsy?!?!
-PD
Hey fortress, Does this about sum things up? >;)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=35139498
-PD
HERE IS WHY THIS STOCK WILL FLY!!!
I read over a few PR's that were issued in the last 'so called run to .0009' and I have concluded (more like theorized) that this stock will rocket wayyyy past .001 ...After looking at the charts from july08 to august 25th, it is clear that the last run lasted from about july24th to august 12th....Remember these dates, as they are important...
Between these dates, the stock went 1st from .0001 to .0009 within days after july24th WHY? Because of this PR http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080724/0418971.html, which came out JULY 24th, then, after a healthy retrace, the price ran back up to .00O7 TWO MORE TIMES until suddenly...da da daaaaa... it dropped on august 12th WHY? Because of this PR http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080812/0424110.html
It was release Aug 12th and mentioned "...the short position that may exist in the shares of the Company..." It further mentioned that the company investigation was being done "...to prevent a potential "Trading Halt" on the Company's stock..."
Now the forbidden term trading halt is one that can definately scare the socks off most investors!!! Not to metinon the endless 'chatter' and negativity of the social boards at that time...Most know the fear and anxiety that proceeded the following few weeks after this PR so details between Aug12 to Aug 22nd need no metion other than that it was not pretty!!
LATER the company tried to jump-start the stock on Aug 22nd with this PR http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080822/0427649.html and a follow up PR on Aug 25th http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080825/0427959.html NOW, did they work? wellllll, simply put, NO ! The one on the 22nd mentioned detail about the raised bid for the gold assets and stated that "...should this bid be accepted it will increase the dividend payment by as much as 30%..." and the one on the 25th described details of the HURASU DIVI and stated that "...The value of this Extraordinary Stock Dividend is in the amount of US$0.0231 per 1 (one) share of Fortress Financial Group, Inc. held at the "Record Date" to be announced..." Although the new dividend (which is the same EXTRAORDINARY DIVIDEND THAT IS COMING UP) was higher than the previous one, the market did not bite and the stock went nowhere this time...
Eventually, the battles between shareholders and CEO Alan escilated and Financier Lumb decided to 'pull the plug' and 'strip FFGO down to a shell' while Alan got 'fed up' and 'left' the company...Perhaps people were too hard on him or perhaps the timing was off...Regardless, after being back and forth on the issue, Financier Lumb decided to keep Alan's promise to release the EXTRORDINARY DIVI (possibly to restore Alans rep and word) ....A few months go buy and here we are! Same play, different day!
However, a note to EVERYONE thinking that this play will STOP at .0009 just like last time...Here is my simple answer: (and support/evidence above). The last run of july24th start end was not naturally out of fuel, and so it could have kept climbing past .0009. As I showed above, the run was KILLED on august 12th!!! What would have happened if the play kept going????? Hmmmmmmmmm....with an EXTRORDINARY DIVI in a GOLD MINING STOCK VALUED AT .0236 PER EACH FFGO SHARE HELD, the thing could have gone ALOT HIGHER...
Perhaps, this time we will ALL know how high it will go, but I doubt that it will stop at .0009 ... EVERYONE IS SET AND READY THIS TIME and BETTER POSITIONED...The play has NO REASON not to ROCKET THIS TIME!! Was the last run killed on purpose or by accident??? Another Hmmmmmmmm....regardless, we are set up for a strong run and as long as ppl keep talking about a small 100% flip to .0002, they will continue to miss the bigger picture (and bigger run!)
Oh yea, let us not forget that we have a RM coming around the corner!!!! Everyone is welcome to contest the points that I have brought up...the more minds the better!
Ihubbers: Thank you PD!
PD: You quite welcome!...LOL!
Well written post! ...I certainly hope that Mr.Saner and Crew deliver on their promises, otherwise many many long-term investors will be disappointed and management reputations will be heavily damaged...look what happened to FFGO ..all because of poor business moves in the past, that company could not dig themselves out of a hole, nor could their CEO handle the bad-rap....So far, hunt gold is doing the right things...and as long as promises get met, the management has nothing but good things heading their way ...GLTA!
-PD
well, I see that you are quite convinced that this be the case, and there is nothing wrong with that...however, as I am tryin to help out, I am going to try and guess as to where your 'mis-information is...No dis-respect intended...
"...So why have the shares distributed amongst three company's claiming "gold em there thar hills" and have a PPS increase problem.. when you can eventually roll it into one of the two sisters and pump two, not three make believe mining claims, that of course will never be mined in the first place... "
First off, FFGO, as an independent company is DONE! The assets have been given to the new 'hurasu' entity...I recall you posted once that FFGO will RM into hursau...that is NOT the case, as FFGO may actually RM into another 'uranium mining' company. In that, once FFGO gives it's gold assets to hurasu, and the shareholders get their ETRAORDINARY DIVI, FFGo will have personally nothing to do with Gold assets, other than it's held 'hunt gold' shares (which are supposedly to show ffgo appealing RM candidate)...Sooooooo, consider FFGO out of the picture,,,gone...finitooo! Now, in the near future, there will be one company HUNT GOLD and another company HURASU....so your above question,
"..why have the shares distributed amongst three company's claiming "gold em there thar hills" and have a PPS increase problem.. when you can eventually roll it into one of the two sisters and pump two, not three..."
is bang on to what ACTUALLY is being set up by the players...As gold rockets, HUNT GOLD and HURASU will be TWO killer plays that will likely capitalize on the coming GOLD BULL RUN>......will it really matter, if these two merge one day or not as long as shareholders profit...that is corporate agenda...and pure 'future spec'...Even if the two get put together at one point, it will just be easier to manage it, as the same players are behind both...What, really, what is wrong with that???? as long as shareholders dont get left out??? GL !
-PD
thx for share that pris... I agree that things will indeed take more time...It is clear with the suppressed pump efforts that more time is needed to get things together..I dont mind that one bit...However, they really need address some 'issues' for the shareholders....and among which is this 'hurasu' and 'hunt gold' link that keeps getting tossed around...I dont beleive it at all and think that it has no real basis...and also think that delays are fine on the company's part...but at least, tell the share holders what is up with the stock price suppression...regardless, of deliverate or not...the act of supressing the pps is indeed illegal (from what I thought)...so why not address the stockholders...one on one...I see absolutely NO HARM for Mr.Saner to be detailed and direct in his address to the shareholders...If things needs to be held back and pumping needs to be held back, fine...My problem is their lack of forsight when they release PR's of such grand promises and such...ie. End of month this and end of month that and Website up shortly, or within days....I would have been much more satisfied, if told straight up ..." things are going very well, we will begin our buyback on ____date and begin our pumping on _____date, etc... Definitive dates that they dont surpass...Even if those dates are later than we want, at least the company wont look so delusional with their project timelines as they currently are...Just some honestly is all that is needed....Ya hear my rant MR.SANER
-PD
I did pay close attention...and also saw the many many slanderous posting also...Alan decided to walk away..fine, it is his 'right' However, the only real promise made was the release of divi's and a reduction of the share count...Yes, that company was indeed stripped down to nothing...But to answer why? ppl were attacking Alan non-stop...What reason did he have to keep that company going...Even after old divi's have been released, people are dis-respectful..and even after this extraordinary divi will be released, ppl will be dis-respectful...Hence, why that company was dismantled....If it was such a scam, they why was 'hunt gold' not dismantled...well, the answer is simple...it didnt have the same negative onslaught of negativity haunting it...and now the key assets of ffgo will be with 'hurasu' with a 2 year restriction...I doubt that the negatively will haunt 'hurasu' if they do the right things... The only reason ppl are anxious about hunt gold is because of the delay after delay...however, when it rises, I doubt anyone would care about how long it took, just as long as 'the ship come home'...
-PD
"...maybe the run will take place and hGLC will be allowed to sell other than lumb, and then when the new hurasu takes control of hglc, interests we have a long wait to sell again..."
Dude, where do you get the 'fact' that hurasu will buyout hunt gold?!?!?! That is NOT FACT, nor likely...The two plays may be held by the same 'handler' but would be 'useless' for him to merge the 2 companies like that...Hunt Gold is already lined up for major profits and it's organizational sxr is already quite pyramidal and ordered...The asset base is 'huge' and appealing, if assay results are favorable...It would make much much more sense for the 'new hurasu' to eventually become another 'hunt gold' type company with a build asset base, and some exploration work and drilling on some of its mine...dont forget the GOLD IS BELIVED BY MANY TO ROCKET TO UPWARDS OF 1500/oz!!! Would you want to own two GOLD companies in such time, or only one??? For reasons very very obvious, I completely and respectfully disagree with you that 'hunt gold ' will merge with 'hurasu' now or anytime in the near future...LONG TERM, HOWEVER, anything is possible...but at that time, if significant GOLD is discovered, it would be MOST profitible (aside from pulling the gold out of the ground) to sell the mines off and watch away with a MASSIVE 'FINDERS' PREMIUM !!! There are two very distinct ways this could go...either the gold is ACTUALLY under the ground, or it is NOT THERE at all...I only see your scenaris as logical if there is NO GOLD...However, if there is GOLD, well then, I see absolutely NO reason to presume that the merger will take place, because it will have NO real profitable basis...GL!
-PD
yes, that was very very odd...they started posting for a few days straight with very good things to say about coming days,,,and then 'poof' they fell off...I bet hunt gold advised them that the so called 'pump' would not be starting yet, and so there was no point in tring to post too early...If this is a 'scam' that many imply, they are doing a 'poor job scamming'...Sounds more like a legit company hit with delays....Deliberately or not? Competent or not? ...Lots of Q's , yet not even an IR rep to supply answers...seems more like a real company that is good at dropping the ball, as scammer dont drop the ball nor do they let the 'scammee' know that they've been had until long after they are gone...however, time is given to them to 'show their stuff'...a lot has been said, promised, and implied!....W/O delivery, things will not hold much substance, as investors are not lining up like those 'billion share ' trade days...ppl want something they can sink their teeth into, plain and simple...
but there were hired promoters on this board, as well as pumps from qualitystocks....where did it all go ??? and the PR's also seem to have hit a dry spell...The posters were simply reacting to the promises of end of jan commitments...if the company did/does not deliver...that is the company's mis-information...4 trading days left of jan, and Nadda fm the company....Even if they drop a PR or two, how did they possibly capitalize on the MOMO, hype, etc and release news stepwise? So far, complex mining-gargin PR's with NO IR firm! Fine, delay the website, assay results or whatever else...but to not even have an Investor Relations group to answer calls????? That is quike irresponsible and definately does not parallel a company 'worth billions in assets' as claimed...U have to admit that the company was pumping for a while there and now fell off the map quite quickly....No?
-PD
I would say more 'dormant' than dead...Deliberate or not, the fire sure does seem to have dwindled...One thing is obvious though...they DO NOT want this stock to run right now...otherwise, we would have pumping up the ying-yang...More important question is...are they waiting to run the stock, run for the hills , or still trying to learn how the run the company! currently, the only thing being run is the pps, and that is directly into the ground...
-PD (not impressed so far, but will wait it out ...
it is hard to contest your points...and the company is not seeming too concerned about contesting your points also...the shame is that there was sooooo much hype around january and 'if' they were to deliver, the stock would rocket...however, with 4 trading days left in january and no 'real' pump efforts from the company perspective, let alone its 'so called promoters', the fire seems to be put out...deliberate or not, who really knows for sure...but at deadlock of .0001 pps sure does seem 'controlled'...At this point, Hunt Gold appears to be 'silent'...question is why??? A lot of theory being tossed around, but only time will reveal the truth as the plot thickens (or dwindles...)
-PD
i agree...it is tough call...took my sells off for now...
-PD
where's taki's insight when u need em..LOL!
yes, yes...indeed news this week...but where is the stock going to is the big Q? I think it has no reason not to blast past .001 this time... A .0236 divi in a gold stock per each owned ffgo share and a RM deal into a uranium company...Hmmmmmmm
agreed! this is in much better shape...I keep raising my sells orders...LOL! This week may get crazy if news hits!!!
taki, you still take ur sell orders off...I keep putting limit order for sells but then keep changing them...the cap on this one is gonna be tough to call...last time, we had .0001-.0009 but this time round it may go much further...what u thinkin (U have a lot of experience making calls)...give it a shot, and throw out a number...I wont hold ya to it...Just want to see if your number is close to mine... thx
-PD
which do you guys think is more significant for pps movement...the RM news or the Divi news???
-PD
yea, this coming week is very important for the company to deliver...I beleive that the current negative sentiment on the board is due to the lack of company follow through with any of the promises made...so far, we have been led along since sept 08' of a 'drill baby drill' campaign...The fire is losing fuel and people are begining to get anxious...still nothing concrete from the company and now they are backed into a conrner of credibility vs. being misleading by promising things for EOM and not delivering...the ball is in their cournt...but as they take longer and longer to exicute, I will presume that the negative audience will get larger and larger...Looking for a turn of sentiment either way this coming week...
-PD
yep, a faster run is possible but also a HIGHER run is plausible as well!...we will find out shortly how market reacts to the news...suppose the close of .0002 on friday is a good start towards gaining MOMO and interest...if we hit 3ssss and 4ssss soon...another 100% day after that and we will be at 8sssss...If a RM deal gets revealed while the run is strong, I dont see why we cant blast through .001 -.002 ranges...Maybe im missing something but why are investors looking for the same .0001-.0009 range run when many things are better postitioned this time??? Why not higher??? .0236 Divi and a RM deal...that is HUGE!
-PD