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Could this be the week we've been waiting for????
Let's hope so!! I cannot wait to hear the news about the quiet period activities, SWARM results, subscriptions, and associated revenue projections.
I was a bit surprised the pps didn't go anywhere on friday after that demo went up. What a nice demo! I think it showed the main strengths of the software in fairly understandable terms (I am not a trader). I thought the custom pricing mod was really cool. I don't fully grasp the power of trading your algorithms (beyond the fast execution of chart interpretation) just yet, but I'm studying up. The Excel platform is really appealing. I am not a skilled trader, and I'm not considering using Spooztoolz personally, but I felt like I could learn to use it quickly based on my unrelated Excel experience.
I think it's going to be a great week. I hope we get some numbers so we can shatter those .013's and not look back.
Just my opinions... good luck to all.
gbathat
nice find
hi ho silver
welcome to the board... i see this is your first post here. read the ibox above for starting your dd. you should be able to calculate for yourself that based on the current share structure and revenue projections, the current pps is a steal.
just my opinions. good luck.
"one would have to have rose color glasses on to think that it will make the kind of money that is being hyped here"
our "hype" is based on conservative projections from the company leadership
"In checking with investment bankers (who have seen the program), not some flipper from Ihub, they pointed out that any system has a low saturation point before the market takes it into account and self adjusts to the system."
Let me get this straight, they saw a demo, and this was their criticism- a vague, general comment about the trading software industry... hmmm... not very detailed criticism from someone who saw the demo.
"Why do you think this is not flying?"
Where were you in July??? Right now, pps is acceptable as investors want to see numbers. The company CEO said we'll see revenue-induced rise in pps... we've already seen a rise in anticipation of the numbers. This thing is on the runway, that is why it is not flying, but it will when the numbers come out.
"if what some here post is really true, that they have seen the program along with other investment managers word on the street would have sent this much higher."
wrong. people want to see numbers. if the numbers are as good as predicted, big investors have plenty of time to get as this thing is going to go like a rocket... what they don't realize is that investors here are going to hold on to their shares tightly.
"Word on the wall street is simply just another program that will self destruct once the market adjusts to it."
What's the word in Chi-town were this thing is actually being demoed? Wall street reference kinda strange to me.
"Anyone here saying anything different is here posting to have you buy what they are selling."
I've said a lot of things here, and I've done nothing but add since arriving.
"If you really do any DD, check with real investment bankers not just some would be casino players unable to afford the trip to Vegas!!"
Credibility killer right there... just had to keep going didn't you?
"I may be wrong, but I doubt it. lol"
you're the only one laughing at your post. good luck getting shares.
all my opinions
am i reading this wrong or is it verylong who jumped ship, not Cash... after all it says posted by very long in reply to cash
if you look at cash's profile, i think you see he is pretty pro-spzi... that could possibly change of course
Posted by: verylong4PMTI
In reply to: CassiusClayNoCashIsKing who wrote msg# 22335 Date:9/13/2007 10:03:33 AM
Post #of 22736
I couldn't agree more with you as MCCY being the best stock investment of my life. I have sold quite a few other stocks to add to my position here. In fact, I am completely OUT of SPZI which I had 18M shares of (I don't care if that might go up 3-5 times in the short term and maybe higher in the longer term, as MCCY is a much surer bet for me at this point in time, and like you, I am going for the gusto here.)
haha, interesting article. i don't think it applies to us though, as our ad campaign is marketing a product, not a company (directly).
Definitely good advice in the article... gotta do the dd with the pennies.
just my opinions
glta
i thought the guy who responded to the question sounded a bit like a pumper, and that website is pretty strange.
however, i did like the fact that his response was rated as the "best answer"... I imagine by the person who asked the question.
Interesting link re: Spooztoolz...
http://www.linkedin.com/answers/financial-markets/equity-markets/MKT_EQU/75072-51116?browseCategory=...
selected as best answer... not sure how much that is worth, could be the work of pumpers, but hopefully not
anyhow just good to see non ihub excitement about STv2
i agree w/ your predicted pps rise... i think the "Molies and Volies" will be surprised at how hard it is to get shares, imo
I often wonder how many people are sitting on the sidelines waiting to pounce, but wanting some tangible numbers first with which they can assess the value of the company. As Paul said in the past, we should see some strong revenue based pps increases as the numbers come out.
The deal will be interesting in that it will impact the revenues and possibly the P/E, which reflects peoples impression the future prospects of the company. While the future looks bright based on internal rev projections based on STv2 alone, I think most out there need some further convincing.
all my opinions, not investment advice.
needless to say, I am really looking forward to any news and the associated analysis here that will follow.
good luck to all and thanks for your insights.
gbathat
perhaps the 141 Futures has a degree of separation from Spooz Inc to minimize risk to SPZI shareholders while still providing them with revenue stream.
If they are putting huge money into SWARM and the whole market absolutely tanks all the sudden, I imagine that could in turn tank a company. While SWARM makes money on the ups and downs, I don't imagine it is completely invincible.
just my uneducated opinion.
Verapan, thanks for sharing your dd. i think the board acted appropriately with regard to the "investigation" since you are a new poster. Some of these folks have been posting daily here for well over a year, so when a new face shows up with big dd, it is natural for the community (new and old members) to be skeptical.
Thanks again for your posts. Please stick around and don't be a stranger.
gbathat
curious
my scottrade is not showing their bid at .011, and it looks sizeable according to L2... what about the time of the bid, has it been in since friday afternoon?
Could it be that the LABS bid is for too many shares?
I looked through the labranche (LABS) website and was pretty impressed with their client list
okay, back to work, see ya'll tonight
(edited) LABS- mm someone asked about previously, seems active in the spzi arena of late... sounds like they do some NYSE and futures and institutional investing... hmmm, doesn't sound like a penny player to me
http://www.labranche.com/advan.html
http://www.labranche.com/newsinfo.html
welcome back wing
so, what are your thoughts from the last ten days? !! :D
also, with regards to your last question, I believe spooztoolz is the platform for their proprietary SWARM model, which has been beta-tested successfully as described in their last PR. So that would be one example of successful use of STv2. Other than that, we just have the demo reactions which you can access in the ibox.
sorry JC, forgot to add that we expect the software to be available by September's end, as alluded to in the recent financials for Q2. This was put out during the quiet period, and we all feel it was a nice gesture on the company's behalf to keep us posted on their progress.
good luck.
Aye aye Cap'n, interesting indeed. Honestly, I don't think the average trader has time to go sifting through all the new software platforms. Fedfunz, for instance, has taken several hour plus demos just to learn all the perks of STv2, but he is also an investor. Anyhow, when word gets out about spooztoolz, look out! I think this "delayed" explosiveness is indeed reflected in the company's STv2 revenue projections.
all my opinions.
best of luck to you matey.
jc, the software has not been officially released yet.
the company is currently in a quiet period.
from what i gather, you can call the company to arrange a demo live in Chicago or perhaps by video conference
the video demo is not available on the website
you can get some good dd info by reading through the ibox above, wonderfully assembled by the board mods
be sure to check out the links to ihub posts regarding emails from the CEO, reactions to the demos, and more.
good luck. i'm sure you won't be disappointed with your findings. if you see a demo, please post your reaction here.
confirmed, both websites up again... i did not notice any changes after a brief skim through
probably just a hosting issue
Goat, I do not personally plan on using the software as I am a complete trading novice who luckily stumbled onto spooz via a tip from Bobadilla on stockwire.com
That said, I have a family member who professionally trades S&P in Chi-town. I just told him about Spooz over labor day weekend, and he said he will check it out when time allows. I will pass on his insights (with his permission) when they become available.
interesting theory detective Birdito
though i thought Wing was banned for a friendly but inapporpriate jest to someone on this board, and I think the ban was imposed by external powers
but perhaps wing got himself banned on purpose, kinda like my boy Scofield on prison break, haha... perhaps he was addicted to posting on ihub and had to go cold turkey for a while:D
we miss you wing... glad you'll be back for the news!
my name is gbathat, and i'm a spoozaholic.
websites down
www.spooz.com & www.spooztoolz.com
can anyone else confirm?
prob not cuz i'm the only loser on here at 10:30 on a friday night! :D
hopefully they are getting the rennovation we've been waiting for... thought they could sneak it past me on a friday night... hahahaha
or perhaps just technical issues... as the site was down for a bit not too long ago.
detective gbathat on the case, calling all backup units...
hmmm... interesting post... please post your logic with it... why all the fictitious detail?
those average gains would suggest much bigger trades taking place... weren't the gains averaging around $30 in the first PR?
and as Imperial recently posted, the "deal" news is just icing on the cake. Whatever it is, we are invested in a company with lots of potential (before any deals).
all my opinions
peace,
gbathat
repost- news worth waiting patiently for i reckon
Posted by: alliecorp
In reply to: string who wrote msg# 17720 Date:7/16/2007 5:48:55 PM
Post #of 26525
string, I e-mailed Paul and asked him for some clarification around "We are discussing the acquisition of a matching engine and the possibilities of Spooz making markets in and clearing certain custom spreads and derivatives."
Keeping in mind there is nothing written in stone here but it does give everyone an idea of the futher opportunities that are open to Spooz!
I appreciate that Paul has taken the time out to expand on this for us. allie
Allie,
We have been approached by institutional brokerage firms because they are interested in making markets in custom spreads, baskets, etc. These are the types of brokers where the minimum opening account balance must exceed $5 million. Anyway, SpoozToolz makes it possible to create tradable, “synthetic” symbols that represent custom spreads, baskets, etc. That is only one side of the equation however. In order for these synthetics to actually work, someone must offer liquidity on both sides of the trade. You guessed it, the brokers.
It is interesting that in the present day futures and derivative exchanges occupy a physical space. They don’t have to with respect to today’s evolving technology, but the exchanges exist in an extremely regulated environment where politics abound. It’s about money … a lot of money. (The futures business alone is a $4 trillion business.) Exchanges today simply require an electronic infrastructure where their products trade; where buyers are matched to sellers and trades are subsequently cleared and settled. SpoozToolz and a matching engine (and this is as simplistic an explanation as time allows here) come together to create a virtual exchange that does not require physical space. This is not a new idea, nor are we thinking about taking on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange by dually listing the S&P 500 (the “Spoos”), but Spooz may own one of the best pieces of the infrastructure in the world for this purpose.
Think about this, a broker partner of Spooz could make a market in any custom derivative an institutional customer may wish to trade. The broker could take the other side or, it is likely that the broker can attract another customer (market maker) to guarantee liquidity. (A good analogy would be Lloyds of London who will insure any proposition bet after it has made an attempt to compute the probabilities and access the risk of loss.) The trading could occur on the SpoozToolz platform for a fee. Viola, Spooz has a transaction based revenue model. Isn’t a growth stage software company with a transaction based revenue model the Holy Grail? Oh, I forgot to mention that Jame Groves and Dr. Peng He have both been heavily involved in developing matching engine technology over the course of their careers.
Please remember that these thoughts are forward thinking and there are absolutely no assurances or representations that Spooz will ever act upon a single idea presented here, but there are certainly possibilities for our company to accomplish stunning victories as we move forward. It also occurs to us that Google or Yahoo could become the largest virtual exchange on our planet overnight, with some help. Finally, an EBay for the mega-rich to swap custom securities, just what the world needs!
I hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Paul D. Strickland, Jr.
Chief Executive Officer
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The secret to profitable investing is to buy into well-run companies at the beginning of their earnings growth cycle—before Wall Street takes notice and bids up the stock price.
My opinions are my own. You have to decide and do what's best for you.
repost be patient folks
Posted by: wing_walker
In reply to: Gmenfan who wrote msg# 17588 Date:7/16/2007 2:13:08 PM
Post #of 26524
LOL Gemenfan, here is an email from the CEO, Paul today.
I asked him what he thought this recent rally could be attributed to and this is his response. And I want to make it perfectly clear, that this has nothing to do with launch dates as that was not discussed and I have no idea when the launch announcement will be made. This is simply his response only to my question on this recent rally.....
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Wing,
We believe there are a number of factors driving the stock right now.
Since we finished with 504 financing a large portion of the inventories acquired by financiers has been absorbed into the public market. This means that selling pressure has somewhat abated.
We have been providing constant product demonstrations to professional traders. They seem to exhibit one of two reactions shortness of breath accompanied by heart palpitations and bouts of uncontrolled drooling. SpoozToolz is the easiest sale on the planet, especially to professionals who grasp the tremendous edge they can capture via SpoozToolz. What our product does is absolutely unique to the trading world. We know some of these traders are buying our stock.
We are talking to investors about a serious investment in Spooz significantly eclipsing $3 million. We are discussing the acquisition of a matching engine and the possibilities of Spooz making markets in and clearing certain custom spreads and derivatives. We are getting closer to closing this financing and will announce when it is complete, but success could establish a market cap ten times higher than current values. These investors may be buying public stock in advance of their investment.
It is amazing that after the time and money we have invested in Investor Relations that the stock rallies now. We have no IR initiatives at all. No press releases. Nothing. I’m thinking, “If its not broke, why try to fix it?”
Best Regards,
Paul D. Strickland, Jr.
Chief Executive Officer
Spooz, Inc.
312-379-3166
312-223-0110 Fax
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J' adore la vie "To adore life"
My statements are my opinion only. Good luck!
if they hit 450 mil/yr in revs by end of '08, just off of STv2, the dollar mark will be shattered, imo, probably much earlier.
450 mil/1.5 bil ~ .30 revs per share, conservative net profit margin of 33% gives .10 a share. A conservative P/E of 10 gives a buck a share.
i just did this in my head as a quick example...
just mix in the SWARM revs and other deals along the way, and it could get much better. Time will tell.
all my opinions, in the future, please post your logic with your statements.
thanks
gbathat- and i'm looking forward to a sweet september!
not scared, just kidding around
.012 close actually... scared me for a second there
what's the deal?
literally? what do you think it's going to be?
I'm hoping for the "virtual exchange" concept to come forth... as in a multi-million dollar contract to modify spooztoolz software into a matching engine for a bigshot like google or yahoo. For this, it might make sense that STv2 should be kept off the market temporarily to keep a potential competitor from trying to create a similar system for their own virtual exchange. From what I gather, STv2 is a not just a nice piece of software, but also a new way of trading through its custom market creation ability. (Please correct any erroneous language here, I do not know as much about the software as many here who have seen the demos).
If the deal was just a hedge fund looking to use SWARM (not that that would be bad by any means!), why would they keep a lid on STv2? While SWARM is based in STv2, and a competitor might try to make something similar using STv2, I don't see how delaying the launch would affect this situation.
Perhaps the launch was just delayed because the deal required all the company focus/resources for the time being, but they were awfully close to launching... everything was pretty much set to go, and that was a big sacrifice on their part in terms of advertising, etc.
It is also interesting that the video demo is not available on the website, yet they are reportedly (martingale I think) still doing live demos. Are people seeing the demos now required to sign non-disclosure agreements or anything?
Anyhow, just some thoughts for you while you work your way towards Labor Day weekend. Whatever the deal may be, I am looking forward to the news like a kid on Christmas eve.
Good luck, and enjoy this lesson in patience! :D
gbathat
no that makes absolutely no sense to me, jmo. why would anyone sell off their shares at this time, right as we are expecting BIG news?
I disagree with part of your post. Wing makes a lot of great "new" points and has shared a wealth of his dd on this board. Yes he posts a lot, and I for one appreciate it.
haha, so long as I get to ride on something like a speed of z jetzki, i'm game
agreed, i like the idea of using SWARM in-house, mostly with spzi money. At 6X returns per year, that will grow pretty fast... almost no need to play with other people's money after spooz seeds that thing
just my opinions
Yes, but if the PR's start rolling this week, ahead of the official launch... getting back in will not be fun.
I agree, and I feel those who sell now may regret it soon.
This is going to be an exciting few weeks here... just think about all the PR's we're waiting for, and how each one will reward our faith in the spooz team.
In the mean time, I plan to scour the net for dd til the PR's start rolling...
glta!
mm's on prowl... bid .0095 and ask .01 pre market according to scotty
if you're looking to accumulate, perhaps today is the day... glta
just my opinions
Peeved, I agree with your analysis and relate to the impatience factor, though you've been around much longer by far.
At the same time, I keep thinking that this deal must be pretty huge if it put the launch on the back burner (temporarily).
Wake Me Up When September Ends
Green Day
(lyrics slightly modified) ;)
(yup, bored again on a saturday morning and just couldn't get this song out of my head)
Summer has come and passed
The flippers can never last
wake me up when september ends
when waiting for your fill at ask
seven hours can seem so fast
wake me up when september ends
here come the mm's again
falling from the stars
drenched in my gain again
accumulating we are
as my mind tries to rest
but never forgets this great invest
wake me up when september ends
summer has come and passed
the weak hands can never last
wake me up when september ends
ring out the bells again
like we did when July began
wake me up when september ends
...
i don't understand the first paragraph that talks about a "put" that could have been exercised 90 days after May 2006... should that have read "90 days after may 2007"?? Or did he already "put" the shares to spooz? What would they be negotiating now?
27/08/07 for gbathat