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I 4 one am encouraged by the inaction. Seems like outstanding shares are extremely limited, smart ones like urselves r holding 4 much much better days. I'm in til the end on the C's and D's. What really encourages me is the institutional ownership of these shares, trusts and adr's, in that link one of u posted. 2 see john hancock and other mutual funds holding millions of these dirt dirt once in a lifetime cheap shares, 2 me that's a very good sign. If lehman really feels their assets are worth 400bil in "non-distressed" market, then we will all b in really good shape whether u hav trusts or preferrd adr's. What do u all think?
Gamb, why would they now gag the T/A? I'm a novice, so I need some explanation. I read that statement carefully, culd we b preparing for a little Walmart? I hope so
Lehman 2 spin off assets?
http://www.financierworldwide.com/gp.php?id=20
Wrong my friend. AMRE errr AART err ARIO.... By far the worst. Cmon Walmart contracts, make em eat their words. STILL long n strong!!
What's with the bid/ask of .06 and .60 on this? This is the 3rd time I've seen this after hours. By 8:00 am it will be back to .07/.11. Games or signals?
I hope ur right. I'm sick of them, had enuff. Tired of waking up to a .06 bid .60 ask on lehdq. Sick of 100 share trades at .01 on lehcq. Now on ur PQ's. Long time coming, but somehow I doubt it
I'm not saying the run is over necessarily. All I'm doin is correctly pointing out that all of this is backd by nothing. We have learned not many new rthings at all. Have any of u contacted Lehman estate team members for some knowledge about what's going on? Its good Barclays and Neubarger seem to be making good on their buys of lehman entities, but other than that, we know nothing new. Don't underestimate MM's. I dislike them and don't trust them 4 a minute. I do think in the end, we will all make $ here, just depends on hw much and when. Prefd's should get sumthin unless they r purely toxic. I'm interested in adr's cuz they r foreign companies who issued stock thru Lehman to make it easier to trade their stcks on US exchanges. My logic wuld b that if they r still in business and not bankrupt, they will b able to recover something in the end. The question is what foreign entities r represented by the various adr's.? Trusts r great, but if they r debt equity laden and were mixd up heavily or bacd by derivatives, then u aint gonna get much. Timing is the name of the game. I sppent $50 on some of the adr's, only $50, and as of now, I've made ten twelve times my investment. I'll hold til the bitter end, and I pray I'll b laughing to the bank! All IMHO of course. Do some real DD and end the speculation. I hope we all get handsomely fatter in the wallet.
Isn't J and ADR like C and D isn't it? If so, those r foreign companies trading thru lehman depositary bank. I stll believe manipulation is happening with all these. Just because there is nothing out there to support what's been happening, as far as I see. Right now, lehdq has bid at
.06 and ask at .60. End time now I've seen the ask at that. The other day, bid .001 ask at .60. End day in a row that lehcq traded 200 and 100 shares at .01-.02. As far as the others, I just don't know. I got my feelers out about the ADR's, hope my DD pays off. We'll see
I've read rthe board, I just wanna know based off what? What have we learned that's new? That's all.
I'm confused by all this. What do we know that is different than what we have over the last few months? As far as the push to treasury to buy paper, those r local bonds. Is the Lehman update report dated 1-29-09 just now been available for public view? I hope ur all right, I'm ready 4 a ride, just hope lehcq and dq are on that wagon. What u guys think?
Oh, yeah. I'm holdin 4 even better days. At least to where P's are now. Signal sent to MM's on LEHCQ, probably next to pop soon, I hope. Still gettin D&D on the F's J's and other prefd of similar nature. Will share when I know
Viva, what do u mean? Sorry
Just more MM games. I'm sick of MM's. I know its life in the pennies as usual, but still sick of them. 6000 at .35 then .08. Insanity. Give us a break u sscam artists. Don't u have clients to make money for? If these stocks r going to b woth something, they can't do this forever. Or can they?
Its a valid one. I dislike the co's agree 2 not disclose the financial #'s also. Says top three. Hope other two r Walmart and Lowes?
News is out. How we gonna poo-poo this one?
Thank you my friend. I appreciate it. I have put in emails to Lehman estate execs about ADR's C and D. I will share what I find out if anything. I got a response, but was asked for clarification of my question. I will let all know.
I hope so. Which symbols r senior? I wish it wuld happen sooner rather than later, but I'm a patient guy. If the brits don't hold us up, I hope it takes about another 12-18 months
If those trusts were mortgage backd securities or part of derivitive swaps, without federal backing, ur not gonna get squat, imo. I wuld think the foreign companies who were or are represented by the ADR's might have some say in their potential value. I am hoping, tho its a one in a million shot, that they merely got caught up in the BK and are waiting to be valued.
I c a lot of posts about the trusts, facts yes-cannot argue with what the trusts are and their spot in the pecking order, but no one on here even addresses what ADR's are and why they were valued $50 face at the ipo. Plus their are only 4 and 5 million shares out there, and are traded extremely thin which would lead me 2 believe that low volume means a minute amount of investors who hold them. Strange trades by MM's, I presume, also signal 2 me dat no one wants to part with them. All in my novice opinion, so I may not know what I'm saying. If so, please educate me, I guess u culd say I'm sh@?!@n in one hand and wishin in the other :~)
Not a problem. This will b the 4th email I hav sent 2 them. Figure at some point they'll answer. Just can't figure out why I can't find info onthe foreign entities their ADR's r correlated with. Hope that 10 percent the WSJ mentiond includes lehcq and lehdq
Unless they r worthless, then nothing will b paid. Still nobody on ADR's? I emaild lehman, hope 2 get response
Thank u 4 the clarification. What of the C and D ADR's? Do u know what foreign companies they represented? I don't believe they are debt backd equities, r they? I've been tryin 2 find out with no luck. Hopefully they aren't toxic, but hw can I find out? Thanks to all!
It is my understanding that trust prefrd's are debt equity trusts. Considering default swaps were the catalyst 4 this mess, why would trusts b better thab say adr's like lehdq and lehcq? Of course if all of these alphabet soup symbols were backd by mortgage securities, then we aint gettin squat. LB isn't going to get TARP $ nor any fed help. Am I wrong? What's up with the adr's? Anyone?
When I checkd Etrade at 7:30 this morning, lehdq had a bid at .001 and ask at .60. Hour later, bid .07 ask .14. The 1st was either a mistake cuz makes no sense at all. Can anyone explain? All this past week lehm's all games and bull?
Any info on the C and D adr's. I hav had no luck om finding out what foreign entity they represent or if they are mortgage backd securities. If the trusts and preffd's are not, I hope 10-20 percent is plausible?!?
I'll take 10%. I paid $45 got over 5K shares. I'll take 20K on a chump change investment. Go lehcq and lehdq!!
So I've learned. My question is how do MM's benefit from this here on LEHDQ? They waiting 4 a huge payoff? Pllease enlighten me
Bid now at .005. After hitting 4 cents constant, who in their right mind wuld sell at .005. Answer= MM games always with this stock. Sick of it. SECOND is supposd to watch these BK stocks. MM's stop now! Give these stocks a chance, please!
How many shares u all holdin? I wonder hw many people own with so few shares in circulation? I'm lookin for 5Centd on the $ of face minimum?!?
You know, I don't know what to think about this anymore. The high volume but no upswing concerns me some. Its hard 2 tell what's going on. R/S's always scare me. Thru Gamb, JD insisted no r/s, so I have 2 b-lieve that. I know this is a real company, so that's not concerning. I guess these things take time. Don't know what else 2 think.
At one point, there was talk of uplisting, that was b4 the current economic downturn. My question is why was there talk of uplisting. In its past, I don't remember seein any revenues even close to warrant an uplisting. Wuld that have occurd thru just hyper-speculation of potential future earnings? I'm lookin 4 any answers here. I am long, patient, and confident this thing will make a run. If it would, how many would sell all their shares right away, and what wuld that do 2 the long term value of the stock.
Mayb if I were in JD's shoes, I wouldn't want this to break out either. Most will jump ship, which is why u invest to make $, but the co would have to have a solid shareholder base to keep the pps at any level it may go 2. EESO went from .05 to now .01-.02. I dunno. Think I'll stop reading this board and check the pps everyother month.
While on etrade browsin thru quotes, I ran across a latest headline about penny stocks and how investors r beginning 2 take a close look at being more aggressive in the pennies 4 the possibility of "gold mine" investments. The outfit they were referencing was pennypics.com. Now this made the latest headlines when I pulld up Citigroups quote.
The release went on 2 dscribe the high risk but great potential rewards of investin in small cap companies who make profits during tuff economic times when bigs do not, and how investors r turning to them.
Now it seems this stock has many of us unwilling to sell at these ridiculously low bids, hence little to no volume being traded. Is this due 2 the seller being gone? I am long on this stock, but JD needs 2 b more agressive in promoting EXPH to garner any new interest. If it is true that investors r looking to b more aggressive and r turning to pennies, then EXPH is ideal. Let's get a pr blitz going, if indeed (I b-lieve there are) there are things that have developed to report. Fins would b good in conjunction with the pr's. The time is NOW, let's not miss the boat. If itro is trading at .002 and has millions in debt, why wouldn't we run to that level again and higher? Am I off-base or just plain wrong. Many on here know much more than I do about OBV, accumulation, etc. Please help my ignorance and help me understand why we aren't marching on. Thanks and good tidings to the holders of EXPH.
Isn't it about time 4 some news to come out? We could use a little oomph, so to speak. Since its earnings season and da big boy's earnings will suck, b nice to see EXPH's recent progress, particularly since its been stated their making profit on their contracts. Would b welcomed. Things hav been too quiet, imo
Right on Pele. Hope JD Brown is heeding ur advice and seeking out those contracts. I'm ready 2 get fat!
I am aware of ur post and u r exactly right. If there are possible contracts available that have been already budgeted, then I wuld hope 2 get them. 1st priority will b minority owned businesses, then the rest. Many people r feeling EXPH should go after newly budgeted contracts, ie stimulus $, but that $ will come witht the strings I mentiond earlier. Look at the "shovel ready" stimulus $. No $ will go to businesses unless they are union or pay prevailing wages. The BHO admin has made that clear. We wuld have to get "earmarkd" $ for contracts from the congresswoman and she may b reluctant to request, plus since she isn't a Demo-rat that will b troublesome. But u r correct, but it wuld have to b money from prior budgets.
Under normal circumstances, I wuld agree govt contracts wuld b good 2 pursue. The only caveat is: unfortunately, the current moronic administration of wealth killers would grant contracts to only companies that are 1. Unionized, or 2. Will pay prevailing wages. Now tho EXPH employees deserve great pay and do great work, paying $45-50 per hour for a $15-20 per hour job doesn't help the bottom line, nor shareholders. That's fact, and not just imo. If he culd get them without the prior 2 caveats, which I doubt, go to it. Cmon EXPH and Walmart and some FINS!!!
That's cool iwish. I can't really argue much with what u have opined, but I'm patient to wait things out. I realize many of u have been waiting a long time already, but what else r u gonna do? Selling now at tremendous loss really wouldn't b my choice, but I understand ur frustrations. I am tryin to stay positive here, cuz I am still mourning BHO's election and I just feel a company like EXPH will take longer than 2-3 years to really begin 2 develop. But u gotta admit that Lowe's, Home Depot, Food Lion, and possibly Walmart aint a bad start and I think is pretty impressive. People talk about eeso so much, but I will b-lieve their 150mil revenues sellin "green" chemical pig crap deoderizing potion to the Koreans when I c it. Just IMO
Gamb, when this thing hits a huge bash would b choice. I too wish I lived near there, the winters r too cold in Indiana. To b honest, I am new to the penny and ihub world and want to write a book about penny investors and all it and they entail. It's like a sub-culture with its own lingo, personalities, and often times, downright amusing things. I think Pink Pennyland Dreams would b a success. Thanks again Gambler!
Patriot Gambler, thanks for the legwork that u do. Good questions and I am satisfied with the responses. Can't wait 2 see more PR's with project details. Now let's hope "mr. quotation" gives Mr. Brown a break and let's us wait for fins and pr's b4 he criticizes the legwork you've done. Just kiddin ya iwish!
It doesn't mean anything really. What's up with the pref adr's, what toxic assets are they gonna try to get rid of. I have been tryin like hell 2 do some DD, but 2 no avail. Barclay's brushd me off, Neuberger the same. The Treasury is controlld by Goldman Sachs lackey's and there is no way they wanna help Lehman out. Derivitive swaps r the toxic assets and cause of all the financial mess. LEHCQ, LEHDQ, PQ, NQ, those weren't mortgage backd securities 2 my knowledge(please let me know if I'm wrong) r those worthless at the time of the BK? Aren't those deposits of some kind? Anyone hav any real thoughts? Please opine. Thanx
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Thanks Gambler, I completely understand. I look 4ward to hearing from u again and please tell JD to keep on keepin on. I've been around business my whole young life and know the difficulties, risks, and sacrifice it takes to b successful. B safe on ur travels my friend.