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hello everyone...i was out for a week....just saw the 8k...why do they need a loan already (after the 41m recently)
is that peculiar and kind of bad news?
should they stop dilution the question is if they try to get the pps up or just RS 1:10000 to dilute more or RS 1:1000 in combination with good PR or some guidance to get some reasonable sustainable shareprice
has nothing to do with trying...just market analysis
To all newcomers: The big party (40 fold PPS increase in 2 days) is over...sure, it could go 5 fold to a dollar...but it might not...either way no BIG money can be made anymore. Interestingly, the biggest pumpers here just started to post (and/or got in) on the 24th or even 25th.
There will be a correction. Even if you grant the company a market cap on contracts, and not revenue at all, alone it would be some 40 +/- million bucks....yes the OS looks nice but thats where we are with 0.2, anyways.
And guess what...DNRG and management is going to dilute/convert...just wisely just a little..but enough to stall...and profit taking will settle in by the retailers now...so I'm out to watch.
Good luck to all whatever your decision maybe.
there might be a friday eod drop (on top of that these fireworks often run exactly 3 days before a correction)so I would take 50% profit tomorrow, to be safe, and should it get lower buy 25% or more to get in again.
Worst case scenario is that the PPS climbs and that you despite your gains regret to not have made more, but with little money secure your success now!!!!!!!
if you have this eternal confidence and an epiphany about ECIG then (without questioning it) I would like to ask you how many years you dealt with OTC stocks, and if you were not only successful in making big money but (more importantly) if you saw completely opposite moves (either up or down) in the stocks you invested than you anticipated or if the trend always was down the line of your prediction?
who's on the ask in the 0.29's ... same old misery
Almost :)....
as accelerated filer, yet small reporting company its still 45days...august 15th is a saturday...thus august 17th
the two issues would have to be addressed by management to lift the block ...and maybe management is not in a hurry if they share the observation that NSS was significantly linked to trading on canadian exchanges?
Newcomers and high AVE position holders:::...ECIG bears enormous long term potential IMO: consider to treat it like a 401K by adding consistently a little every 2 weeks to build up a position w/o major risks but highest chances of major reward
i wish but,realisticly there are sellers down to 0.25 as before, but no buyers at this time. The new regulations bill can lead easily lead to selling while it won't give significant incentive to climb.
WE are all sick of the situation, but Q2 ER (around Aug 17th)will be the next likely potential landmark for an upswing (if ok) or rapid climb (if stellar).
Interesting, as CUIN pointed out earlier, the management team listed on the ECIG site shrunk to just 3! That could possibly be in conjunction with newsworthy updates before august (but I doubt it).
I use fidelity trader pro and are very happy with them. For example various stocks right the next day after RS, S or ticker change were tradable and correctly updated while others ETrade, AT etc had problems.
So I should check first with fidelity, I guess, if/how they provide l2 for free.
If not I will default to your suggestion.
Thanks again...yes, I should do that, too...at least for my three predominant stocks...don't have or follow l2 level...just check by EOD but , as you say, it would help or in other words my lazyness probably backfires at some point
OK..java now works...interesting to get the trades listed nicely right here.
nevertheless, your comprehensive row (trade#, Buy, Sell, Short, Short exempt, etc) would be perfect to get also for my other stocks....yet I can't track this kind of listing down, no matter how much I google for it.
Thus, I'd like to ask you which site that is from (not Finra).
great..thanks....i'm reinstalling java now and will know in few minutes...have a nice eve
Thanks...right here on IHUB?! Is it accessible for free?
when I tried to open it it said a plugin is needed...but I have the newest version of flashplayer...do you know what is meant?
Hello TRD
would you mind posting the site for me where you get this comprehensive info.
I'm just fiddling with sites like regsho.finra.org/FORFshvol20150617.txt and such where either trade# or sell/buy vol are omitted.
Thanks
ASK volume still a fraction of the BID...likely to slightly move up in the next hours
just got another 10000 shares....loading up time until mid august (despite nerve-wrecking past months)
Anyone else adding?
yes...some others, too. there was a leap however, and trough that the ASK and BID dropped for a variety of OTC stocks...lets hope its getting up now
This is bizarre...as of now the site shows only few OTC stocks that are halted...yet, all of the 7 OTC stocks I follow haven't traded in 45 min.
The FINRA site shows this message:
OTC Quoting and Trading Halt
FINRA has imposed a quoting and trading halt in all OTC equity securities due to a lack of current price transparency information currently available in the marketplace for OTC equity securities. FINRA will notify the market when quoting and trading in all OTC equity securities may resume.
- See more at: http://www.finra.org/industry/orf/otc-quoting-and-trading-halt#sthash.zjbTd4Dk.dpuf
Newcomers and high AVE position holders:::...ECIG bears enormous long term potential IMO: consider to treat it like a 401K by adding consistently a little every 2 weeks to build up a position w/o major risks but highest chances of major reward
Correct...while the cease tr. in april was inadvertantly, I believe that now the management conveniently delays the quarterly papers necessary for canadian exchanges. Nice experiment to see if the price stabilizes and if so to keep it as that till Q2 release (if no deadline).
19% changes can and have occurred in minutes...it doesn't mean anything but for the reason that 3 days were closing (tiny) green (micro white knights)...in other words tomorrow will be the big day to see if the trend might be real??!
We do not have the volume, at all that makes me feel comfortable...but again maybe 500 k tomorrow would be a good sign (the problem is also that us longs are done buying and newcomers have to be attracted)
have a nice eve everyone
The reason would be to jump to other tickers since its getting too tedious with ECIG if no major fluctuations or drops are created (even though initially ECIG was a good target due to being an OTC stock with a relatively high PPS...I know its sad to say)
My understanding is that these daily short reports are estimates by comparing numbers of sold with bought shares at a given time (no true identification of shares or blocks!), thus, they can be vastly off.
In fact these percentages often rise incredibly when PPS rises dramatically (which is true covering attempts) but I believe naked shorting can not be associated with these reports at all.
Well there are ways for the MMs (off-shore brokers etc) to enter with the failure to deliver in a cycle where it is postponed by delivering through themselves or other entities buying naked shorts once again. Eventually, this will stop but until then the damage can be dramatic.
Legal regular shorting is not possible in high numbers since there are not too many shares provided by the brokers (who would have to hold them already or buy them to offer/lend)to be borrowed in the first place here.
But even in naked shorting eventually it needs a settlement..so at some point there would have to be sellers. Even if the price is driven down through NS by MMs and thus opens price manipulation a la carte if retailers eventually dont sell at lower prices (and here everyone would with a loss)the price must go up again.
"""Naked short selling, or naked shorting, is the practice of short-selling a tradable asset of any kind without first borrowing the security or ensuring that the security can be borrowed, as is conventionally done in a short sale. When the seller does not obtain the shares within the required time frame, the result is known as a "failure to deliver". The transaction generally remains open until the shares are acquired by the seller, or the seller's broker settles the trade"""
they were all listed in Aquisition or Initial statement of beneficial ownership or changes of ben. ownership filings, thus current OS.....also giving them the chance to change AS; vote successfully on RS etc.
I am just not sure if all the convertible toxic notes from before the RS were exercised...however, even if its hard to imagine that these would be the only trigger for the recent price decay but together with MM play these might be the reason for many of us suggesting a dilution while the company signals that there is none.
Newcomers!...ECIG bears enormous long term potential IMO: consider to treat it like a 401K by adding consistantly a little every 2 weeks to build up a position w/o major risks but highest chances of major reward
honest answer...respects...i know its not easy to be "hold guilty" of non-materializing predictions...what kind of news/update were you expecting last week? (are you in Ihub confinement for one more week?)
so 95% of the shares you hold are from a purchase on friday to ave down to 0.32?
I also bought on friday to bring my ave to 0.67
The problem is the average Ihubber has an ave of around $1 which is 370% and would feel some accomplishment at a PPS of $2 which is 740% of the current PPS.
No buying interest and steady decline and no major upward expected till Q2 release by the middle/end of august.
Its not and I agree...someone is selling lower and lower since it can't be all shorting and the CEO should be able to analyze the very few options for that...and clarify the count concern
fair enough...however, if the tone of his emails is consistently confident with the same message repeated, but naturally not specific information provided, what is the cause for and result of a frequent exchange (e.g. these last days) if I may ask?
In any case, I agree...very nice of him to try to instill confidence by being available to us little fish
Interesting...I don't know the content of your emails to him, but other than some comfort are there specific questions and answers that provide guidance?
How long ago did you establish a functional email contact?
No one doubts that he is working hard and very involved..the problem is the lack of guidance and PPs stabilization efforts.
but 11 long weeks to go till q2 release...the pps has to be stabilized during this time...just one week past and q1 did not show s.th. unexpected and yet 30% down since...the company, like it or not, has to instill confidence
Thanks Cuin
True...but what makes my situation difficult esp when it comes to investing is that I raise as a father two young kids by myself and was a professor before but am unemployed and due to various parameters (my age/50, field, overqualification, unability to leave the state I am living in, being dependent on finding a "Mom-job") I am basically living from my limited investment resources [which might last just 2 more years].
Even though the only true hot coals in the fire are with ECIG I am too dependent on this PPS development. So no fun here and not the goal to "make money" but simply getting returns to pay the mortgage.
So while I keep a clear head and do my DD and successfully amplified money in the last 20 years through mutual funds (5 years gold, then 5 years latin america, the last years biotech)this path now is an experiment that I don't enjoy.
Hi Cuin...I did not like that the typical friday ECIG EOD rise did not occur today.
Never asked but how many shares are you (comfortable) holding these days (PM, of course).
I added today once again but I start to feel shaky with 65k and an ave in the high 60 cent range.
Have a nice weekednd