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Agree, it's sorta a bit now even more over-filled. On my tv now Pelosi has just appeared on The Economics
Club, she is very good. Very, super diplomatic when talking about a president Trump. On right now.
Agree Trump's quote should better be as you said, or even more simply .. I'm here to fuck you up.
Fire ants ouch, have never seen them. You must have solved your athlete's foot before the blister stage.
These are the little blisters i was talking about ..
https://www.sutherlandpodiatry.com.au/blog/the-truth-about-athletes-foot/
Not the large blisters like you get from an ill-fitting shoe, tiny little ones. A match flame sterilized needle can prick them too. Then iodine.
First time i got gout i had no idea what it was. Didn't treat it immediately and after three days couldn't put my right foot on the ground. Still have the image of being helped down a slope to a car with each arm over the shoulder of each of two people, one each side. i was on holiday up north a bit from Sydney, and was put on a bus back to Sydney, my choice.
There i saw my doc and was given a gout tablet which say three or four, cleared it up over about 4 days, by memory.
It didn't take long for me to learn that seafood, not a little, but quite a lot at one time caused gout in me. Fish and chips, ok, no swear, but a good fish lunch would bring it on.
So agree by experience and personal experimentation (i've done that with about everything) some things are caused by some food intolerance.
As a kid i was diagnosed with allergies, and had regular shots. First the needles up each forearm, 10 each arm, 20 at a time. Then as science progressed, scratches and a solution from a dropper replaced needles. House dust (actually the mites in it), chocolate, wool whatever. Trouble is the allergies kept changing. In about '62 i was living at uni (UBC), dad had our home carpeted with cotton because i had tested allergic to wool. After that i could only go home for say three days before hay fever, itchy nose was too much. On being tested again i showed an allergy to cotton.
In about 1969, by that time in Sydney, i was still taking antihistamines for allergies, but was getting fed up with them drying the nose out and getting a bit drowsy from them, but then after a few hours being back where i started. So just stopped taking them. Oh, except on telling the story to a golfing buddy drug salesmen some time later he said he could give my free samples out of the boot of his car so i did that for fun for a time for the fun of it. Just to add to the effect of a few beers after golf.
Anyway i didn't have any more troubles with allergies after that, and haven't been tested since. No doubt in my mind if i was tested i would be positive to many things, but for years i was there and never going back to it. I have a good general attitude to food, i love most all of it. And don't eat much of any sugar etc.
Back to the gout. For years now it has only come back occasionally. Alcohol, research says, can bring it on. Oddly, I've found it's come back when i have gone off drinking. Not every time. And yes, occasionally it has come after a very heavy few days. But, i have not been able to tie it's recurrence to anything really except a lot of different seafood in a lunch or two over a couple of days (that happened in Vietnam where was always treated to seafood lunches.) Very seldom get any gout anymore. And don't have heavy seafood lunches. When i visit Vietnam next will make sure i have tablets handy, in case, after lunches.
In a number of searches, yes changed wording, just now i haven't found any evidence at all that food intolerance can cause athlete's foot or any other fungal disease. i'm not saying that particular info in your link is wrong, Just saying i couldn't corroborate it with any searches.
i did learn one thing that food allergy is different from food intolerance .. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/food-allergy/expert-answers/food-allergy/faq-20058538
Finally, though being well aware that some doctors are in the pockets of some drug companies i don't share your overly, i think, cynical
"I've had gout for years and have done a deep dive into the food intolerances space. Of course,
doctors would rather prescribe shit, it what's they do. Check it out, what do you have to lose?"
and unfair, i think, attitude about doctors in general. I'm not at all surprised to hear it coming from you.
Oh, and would add no doubt those involved in your link would likely have an agenda interest too. Like tarot card readers.
When I Reach The Place I'm Goin' - Jessie Buckley
Peace in This House - Jessie Buckley
As expected all clear. Just a little bleeding under the skin.
Thing is, is it more you than them. Or could it be.
"Why do I have to be on the defensive, or feel that I am?"
There have been times, i know, when it's been more me than them.
Papua New Guinea landslide: rescuers say they do not expect to find survivors under rubble
"At least 53 killed in massacre in PNG highlands
"Biden seals 3 deals in Pacific islands as U.S. competes with China""
Related: Australian aid arrives in Papua New Guinea
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/podcast-episode/australian-aid-arrives-in-papua-new-guinea/bglm2xgkz
Officials are still trying to pinpoint the exact death toll, as rescue teams are set to begin using heavy machinery to recover the dead
Reuters
Thu 30 May 2024 15.31 AEST
Last modified on Fri 31 May 2024 11.30 AEST
VIDEO - 'It destroyed everything we had': aid slow to arrive at Papua New Guinea landslide
Officials in Papua New Guinea have said they do not expect to find survivors under the rubble of a massive landslide .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/papua-new-guinea-landslide-satellite-images-death-toll-rescues .. in the country’s remote north, with the exact number of dead under almost two storeys of debris and mud still unknown.
Heavy equipment and aid have been slow to arrive to the site of the landslide – which hit almost a week ago – because of the treacherous mountain terrain, a damaged bridge on the main road, and tribal unrest in the area.
“No bodies are expected to be alive under the debris at this point, so it’s a full recovery operation to recover any human remains,” Enga province disaster committee chairperson, Sandis Tsaka, told Reuters.
Papua New Guinea PM blames extraordinary rainfall for deadly landslide
Read more > https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/29/papua-new-guinea-png-landslides-pm-james-marape-weather-rescue-efforts-death-toll
Dozens of soldiers, engineers, geology experts and public health officials have reached the site, Tsaka said. Rescue teams are planning to use heavy machinery from Thursday, after unstable ground delayed its use earlier.
Officials are still trying to pinpoint how many people are buried under parts of the mountain which collapsed on to the Yambali village in the Enga region last Friday.
The last credible census was done in the year 2000 and without a current count, officials are relying on incomplete voter records and checks with local leaders to reach an estimate on total deaths.
More than 2,000 people .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/27/papua-new-guinea-landslides-death-toll-enga-province-rescue-efforts .. may have been buried alive, according to the PNG government, but a UN estimate .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/26/papua-new-guinea-landslide-death-toll-exceeds-670-says-un-agency .. put the death toll at about 670, while a local businessman and former official told Reuters it was closer to 160.
Tsaka said the government was still unsure about the death toll though it would be a “significant number”.
“It could be anywhere from hundreds to 2,000. I wouldn’t totally rule 2,000 out because of the uncertainty about how many people were [there] at the time, but I can’t give you a definitive answer till we complete the social mapping,” he said.
Of the six bodies recovered so far, two lived outside the disaster area, Tsaka said, reinforcing officials’ view that there was lots of movement between communities.
Thousands of residents are on alert for potential evacuation .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/papua-new-guinea-landslide-satellite-images-death-toll-rescues .. in case the landslide shifts further downhill.
“We are not even sleeping at night. We are afraid that more of the mountain will fall down and kill us all,” 20-year-old resident Frida Yeahkal said.
The landslide also buried nearby creeks and streams and contaminated the village’s primary water sources, posing a significant risk of disease outbreaks, the United Nations migration agency said in its latest update.
Most households lack alternative sources, such as rain catchment tanks, and there were no methods to treat water, further exacerbating drinking water shortages, the UN said.
The agency estimates about 1,650 people have been displaced, with one in five under the age of six.
“What will happen to the ones alive? I do not know where we will go for food and shelter. Our houses and gardens have all been destroyed,” community leader Yuri Yapara said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/30/papua-new-guinea-landslide-rescues-death-toll-no-survivors-expected
And i wish there were some of them around now. We could do with a
bit of crazy slapstick comedy. Maybe there is some i'm not aware of.
The athletes foot is itchy first, eh, then those tiny little blisters. Those are the only blisters i'm talking about.
The Mass Psychology of Trumpism
"I'm sick of listening to Trump's lies and whining about this already.
That's something I agree about, naturally, but am also puzzled by. Most people dislike whiners.
So why do his culties give him a pass on that? It's so childish; he talks like a fifth grader. '
Gotta be basically what Hanibal suggested
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174525770 .
But there i forgot 'the Chosen One' belief. And the sense of belonging. Think of the music and singing
in black churches. And the music and singing in the new white evangelistic megachurches.
The Mass Psychology of Trumpism
In the minds of his most ardent supporters, the ex-president is both more and less than a person
Dan P. McAdams
Dan P. McAdams is a professor at Northwestern University’s School of Education and Social Policy
and the author of “The Strange Case of Donald J. Trump: A Psychological Reckoning”
February 21, 2024
A digital billboard supporting Donald Trump in Times Square, New York City, in 2016. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
Americans today see two contradictory futures looming in the middle distance: In one scenario, Donald Trump is convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison. In the second, he returns to the presidency in 2025.
The urgent uncertainty of it all may be a reason why, in recent weeks, Trump has summoned forth some of the most incendiary rhetoric ever employed by an American presidential candidate. He has called for the execution of the former chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
[ Insert: Trump Floats the Idea of Executing Joint Chiefs Chairman Milley
The former president is inciting violence against the nation’s top general. America’s response is distracted and numb.
By Brian Klaas
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/trump-milley-execution-incitement-violence/675435/ ]
He now urges police to shoot shoplifters.
[ Trump calls for police to shoot shoplifters as they leave the store
Candy Woodall USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2023/10/01/trump-police-shoot-shoplifters-california/71021289007/ ]
He has begun characterizing his political adversaries as subhuman “vermin” who must be “rooted out.”
[ Trump campaign defends "vermin" speech amid fascist comparisons
Zachary Basu
A Trump campaign spokesman defended the former president's use of the word "vermin" to describe his political enemies, calling critics "snowflakes" whose "entire existence will be crushed" if Trump wins in 2024.
P - Why it matters: Some historians have compared Trump's dehumanizing language — including his claim that undocumented immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country" — to the rhetoric of fascist dictators like Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.
* "[T]o call your opponent vermin, to dehumanize them, is to not only open the door, but to walk through the door toward the most ghastly kinds of crimes," presidential historian Jon Meacham said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
* "[T]hose who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House," Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung told the Post in a statement.
* Cheung later said he was referencing their "sad, miserable existence" instead of their "entire existence," the Post noted.
P - Driving the news: In a Veterans Day speech in New Hampshire on Saturday, Trump vowed to "root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections."
https://www.axios.com/2023/11/13/trump-vermin-fascist-language-speech ]
Parroting the Third Reich while claiming (no doubt truthfully, in this case) that he has never read “Mein Kampf,” Trump has declared that immigrants from Latin America, Africa and Asia “poison the blood” of the United States.
And yet Trump is cruising to a third consecutive Republican presidential nomination, and many national polls show him beating Joe Biden in November. With ominous foreboding, the entire January/February issue of The Atlantic magazine was dedicated to one momentous question: “What if Trump wins?” Jeffrey Goldberg, the magazine’s editor, characterizes Trump as an “antidemocratic demagogue,” one “completely devoid of decency.” If Trump wins again, warns Mark Leibovich, author of “Thank You for Your Servitude: Donald Trump’s Washington and the Price of Submission” (2022), then we Americans will need to let go of the soothing notion that “this is not who we are.”
“Who is ‘we’ anyway?” Leibovich asks. “Because it sure seems like a lot of this ‘we’ keeps voting for Trump.”
How is it possible that a twice-impeached former president facing 91 criminal counts can now be favored to return to the Oval Office? Why do his supporters not recoil when Trump promises to unleash an authoritarian regime as president and to assume the role of dictator on Day One? What explains his enduring appeal?
Questions like these have been raised ever since Donald Trump began to gain political traction in early 2016. Back then he claimed, quite presciently, that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue in New York City and not lose a single vote. Since then, countless observers have puzzled over the unshakable hold he exerts on a vast swath of the American electorate. Many factors — economic, political, cultural, psychological — are surely at play in shaping Trump’s abiding relationship with his supporters.
My argument, as strange as it might sound, is that Trump’s enduring appeal stems from the perception — his own and others’ — that he is not a person. In the minds of millions, Trump is more than a person. And he is less than a person, too.
In 1962, a prominent Harvard psychologist published a scholarly paper titled “The Personality and Career of Satan.” Henry A. Murray examined how, for over 2,000 years, Western theologians and other writers have depicted the mythical figure of Satan, projecting onto him human traits perennially designated as evil.
It is worth noting that Murray’s characterization of Satan bears an uncanny resemblance to the psychological portrait of Trump painted by many psychologists today. A malignant narcissism rages at the core of Satan’s personality. Cast out of heaven for his overmastering pride, Satan wants to be God, resents the fact that he is not God and insists that his supreme worth entitles him to privileges that nobody else should enjoy while undergirding his reign as sovereign of the mortal world below. Wholly self-centered, cruel, vindictive and devoid of compassion and empathy, Satan nonetheless possesses substantial charisma and charm. Completely contractual in his approach to interpersonal relationships, he has perfected the art of the deal, as when, in the Gospel of Luke, Satan tempts Jesus with earthly powers and riches in return for his adulation: “If thou will therefore worship me, all shall be thine.”
Situated in a middle ground between God and human beings, Satan is a liminal figure. He is like a person but not quite a person. For one, he is gifted with superhuman powers of the sort, Murray writes, that children have always imagined they might possess in the furthest reaches of their wish-fulfilling fantasies. But he does not possess certain qualities that adults especially value and recognize as part of the human condition. He lacks wisdom, for example, and love. He is not troubled by a complex inner life, by the doubts, ambivalences and moral quandaries that routinely run through the consciousness of mature humans. He is instead like the modern conception of a superhero. Satan is one-dimensional and mythic, an idealized personification, rather than a fully articulated person.
Donald Trump sees himself in the same way. While Trump insists that he is a force for good rather than evil, he truly perceives himself to be qualitatively different from the rest of humankind. He has often compared himself to a superhero. He has famously described himself as a “stable genius” who has never made a mistake. He is not lying when he makes these outrageous claims, for Trump truly believes them to be true, just as he believes he won the 2020 election.
At the same time, Trump is incapable of describing an inner psychological life or of identifying traces of reflection, emotional nuance, doubt or fallibility. Even though he talks about himself all the time, Trump has never been able to explain his inner world or to narrate stories about how he has come to be the person he is, as frustrated interviewers and biographers have repeatedly noted.
In my book “The Strange Case of Donald J. Trump: A Psychological Reckoning” (2020), I argue that Trump lacks a narrative understanding of himself in time. A well-established line of psychological research shows that human personhood is tied up with narrative and storytelling. People understand their lives as narratives evolving over time. But Trump is the curious exception, in that there seems to be very little by way of a story in his head about who he is and how he came to be. He is instead what I call “the episodic man,” living outside of time in the eternal moment, fighting in the here and now to win the battle at hand, episode by episode, day by day. At the center of Trump’s personality lies a narrative vacuum, the space where the self-defining life story should be but never was. As such, Trump is rarely introspective, retrospective or prospective. There is no depth, no past and no future.
The New York Times television critic James Poniewozik has observed that the “real” Donald Trump is a television character. In trying to predict what Trump will do, Poniewozik cautioned, “The key is to remember that Donald Trump is not a person.” What Poniewozik meant is that Trump’s behavior is not driven by the strategies, motivations and beliefs that we typically attribute to full-fledged people. If you want to gain insight into Trump, ask yourself this: What might happen next on television? What would a TV character do?
Trump played himself as a TV character for 14 seasons on “The Apprentice.” Millions of Americans came to know him through that show, establishing what the cognitive scientist Shira Gabriel and her colleagues have described as strongly emotional “parasocial bonds” with Trump. But even before that, going back to the 1980s, Trump honed his character to play a distinctively Trumpian protagonist in life, so much so that over time he has become a heroic character: Trump is the mighty role and nothing else. You feel it in his presence, as did Tom Griffin, in 2006, after negotiating a real estate deal with Trump in a Scottish pub. “It was Donald Trump playing Donald Trump,” a befuddled Griffin noted afterward. He found the encounter very strange. Indeed, Griffin seemed to experience something like ontological confusion. Did I see the real Trump? Or was he playing a role? The answer to both questions turns out to be “Yes!” That was the real Trump. The real Trump is the role. There is no other Trump.
Trump is like a golden god in his mind and in the minds of many of his supporters: a superhero, able to do things that no other human can do; a warrior who fights furiously to win every battle, completely immersed in the moment. His very identity is the supremely heroic role he plays on TV and in real life. The role is charismatic and mesmerizing, but it is limited, too, as any single role must be, because most people are more than a single role.
Trump loyalist and right-wing provocateur Steve Bannon once described Trump as “the Rain Man of nationalism.” Bannon was referencing the 1988 movie about an autistic savant, played by Dustin Hoffman. Like the Rain Man, Trump may be perceived as deficient in certain basic human aptitudes. By embracing the Trump persona wholeheartedly, Trump implicitly concedes that there are realms of human experience, some of which he may write off as weaknesses, that are completely foreign to him. These include most of the duties of parenthood and close friendships, showing sympathy for others in times of need, expressing fidelity to a cause beyond the self and apprehending complexity and ambivalence in life. As such his personhood is limited, constrained, restricted, incomplete. But no matter, for the Rain Man has awesome special powers — be they godlike or the work of the devil.
An AI-generated image. (The Hartmann Report)
Many of Trump’s supporters perceive Trump the way Trump perceives himself. In their minds, he is a liminal figure, superhuman in some ways but also lacking certain qualities that most people, for better and for worse, possess. A liminal figure who is more than a person, but less than a person, too, may not be subject to the rules and contingencies that pertain to regular people. Conventional norms of rectitude and decency do not apply.
[We all know cancel culture flourished in conservative churches before conservative politicians cynically made it one of their favorite pin on the donkey games. Still, it was with surprise and appreciation that i bumped into and read the the article below. First a tiny reminder:
"Voice of the people: Evangelicals know cancel culture
[...]Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, church youth groups coordinated book burnings and music bonfires to purge their world of evil art. On any given night of the week, televangelists and Christian activists could be found on cable news attacking their enemies by name and blaming them for the “moral decay” of America.
P - Evangelicals tried their level best to smear and shame any person or organization who didn’t behave or believe appropriately in order to forcibly craft a society according to their Christian values.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170893163
[...]To the surprise, straight from the horse's mouth -- Cancel Culture Began in the Church
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174411205
.... and ....
Pastors repeating Trump lies --- 'A spiritual battle': Pastors embrace Trump's grievances in prayers at his rallies
"Trump and the Republican party exemplify these five elements of fascism
[...]At a December rally in Coralville, Iowa, the Rev. Joel Tenney spoke ahead of Trump, telling the several hundred supporters gathered that he wanted to talk to them “as a pastor.”
P - “We have witnessed a sitting president weaponize the entire legal system to try and steal an election and imprison his leading opponent, Donald Trump, despite committing no crime,” he said.
P - “We must re-elect President Trump for the third time,” Tenney said, echoing Trump’s “big lie” rhetoric. He then said that the upcoming election “is part of a spiritual battle” with “demonic forces at play.”
P - His voice trembling at times like a tent revival preacher behind a Trump-emblazoned podium, he continued: “When Donald Trump becomes the 47th President of the United States, there will be retribution against all those who have promoted evil in this country.”
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173646607]
In the eyes of his supporters, Trump possesses extraordinary powers that are wielded for good and against evil. Who cares if he is flawed? So what if he lacks certain distinctively human qualities? What does it matter that he is rude, authoritarian or even a criminal?
Indeed, Trump’s flaws or deficiencies are part and parcel of his wonderfulness. They show that he is the special case for whom exceptions must be made. They may even indicate that he is formed for a special destiny or that he is the instrument of a divine plan.
[ 'God's used imperfect people all through history': Perry shares why he thinks Trump is the 'chosen one'
William Cummings USA TODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/25/rick-perry-trump-gods-chosen-one/4295185002/
The Deification of Donald Trump Poses Some Interesting Questions
[...]I asked Hankins whether Trump’s evangelical supporters “see him as a Jesus-like figure.”
P - Hankins replied, “I think ‘Jesus-like’ is well put. When the indictments came down during Lent last spring, there were references .. https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-arraignment-jesus-christ-conspiracy-theory-670c45bd71b3466dcd6e8e188badcd1d .. to the powers of government going after Trump like the Roman Empire went after Jesus.”
P - Trump’s evolution into a Jesus-like figure for some but not all white evangelicals began soon after he began his first presidential campaign. As David P. Gushee .. https://www.davidpgushee.com/ .. , a professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University, explained by email:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173668410]
Donald Trump professes no religious faith. He knows almost nothing about Christianity or any other religion for that matter. He virtually never attends church. He has dedicated his professional life to amassing material wealth and burnishing his fame, bereft of any charitable instincts or sense of the transcendent. Demarcated by three marriages, his personal life reads like a sordid soap opera, filled with sexual scandal and multiple affairs. Nobody has ever mistaken Donald Trump for a choirboy or a righteous man of God.
Yet the man who is arguably the least religious president in American history continues to command supreme support from white evangelical Christians, 84% of whom voted for Trump in the 2020 election. They are his most devoted followers. To the delight of evangelicals, Trump appointed conservative judges who support religious freedom and oppose abortion, and he welcomed evangelical leaders to the table as president, paying them respect and soliciting their views. Trump also shares their worldview — up to a point. He agrees that we live in a fallen world, a dangerous and sinful world full of vicious people. “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God,” evangelicals believe, quoting Romans 3:23. Trump gave expression to the same sentiment in a People magazine interview back in 1981: “Man is the most vicious of all animals, and life is a series of battles, ending in victory or defeat.”
In a 2019 Fox News poll, 1 in 4 Americans reported that they believed “God wanted Donald Trump to become president.” Even in the first months of his administration, evangelical leaders began to see a higher purpose in the Trump presidency. In a public forum in 2017, the Christian televangelist James Robison told Trump: “You are, in fact, an answer to prayer. … I think you have been designed and gifted by God.” Jonathan Cahn, a charismatic New Jersey preacher and the author of best-selling prophetic books, likens Trump to Jehu, the Old Testament king who led ancient Israel away from idolatry. Cahn argues that Trump, like Jehu, is a “flawed vessel” who is being used by God for purposes that go well beyond Trump’s own comprehension.
Other evangelicals see Trump as akin to the ancient Persian King Cyrus the Great, who freed a population of Israelites even though he was not one of them. Yet others see him as their David fighting against the Goliath of the liberal mainstream. It is good versus evil, the righteous army of God versus the vicious force of the devil. God works in mysterious ways, many Christians believe, choosing the unlikeliest agents for divine purposes. If an unsuspecting virgin can give birth to the son of God, and if Christ’s inveterate persecutor (Saul) can ultimately be transformed into a Christian saint (Paul), then what is to keep God from choosing a crude, self-centered adulterer for yet another divine mission?
Capitalizing on this sentiment, Trump recently shared a video on Truth Social that proclaims, “God made Trump” to be a “shepherd for all mankind.” The video’s narrator intones: “God had to have someone willing to go into the den of vipers, call out the fake news for their tongues as sharp as a serpent’s, the poison of vipers is on their lips. … So God made Trump.”
From the standpoint of many evangelical supporters, Trump’s divine mission is to defend Christianity, and the traditional values and practices associated with it, from the onslaught of godless secularism. It is to restore the United States to its (mythic) Christian identity. It is to fend off the elite agents of modernity — the media, the intellectuals, the deep state, the libs — who denigrate good people of faith. As Tim Alberta writes in his recent book “The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism” (2023), evangelicals feel that they are under siege, that their faith is under assault and their country is being taken away from them. They desperately need a warrior to save the day. In the words of Robert Jeffress, the pastor of First Baptist Church of Dallas, “I want the meanest, toughest son of a gun I can find.” When Peggy Young Nance was asked why she, as a devout evangelical and president of the Concerned Women of America, could, along with her evangelical friends, vote for a brutish man repeatedly accused of sexual predation, she had a ready retort: “We weren’t looking for a husband,” she said. “We were looking for a bodyguard.”
In the apocalyptic battle of good vs. evil, evangelicals have chosen their warrior. “There has never been anyone who has defended us and fought for us, who we have loved more than Donald J. Trump,” proclaimed Ralph Reed, the evangelical luminary and influential political consultant. Evangelicals love Donald Trump because he promises to save them from their enemies. For many evangelicals, their love for Trump may resemble, in some ways, their love for Jesus. While the theology here is complex and manifold, Jesus is also a liminal figure, part God and part man, or perhaps God in human form. Jesus is more than a person, endowed with powers that no person has ever had, as suggested in the story of the resurrection. Christians do not hold Jesus to the same standards they hold other persons. By virtue of his liminal status, Jesus is an exception to all the rules. Evangelical Christians see Jesus as their savior. He is an integral part of the divine plan, the ultimate instrument of God (who happens also to be God). They will never quit loving him.
On the eve of the 2020 election, The New York Times ran a front-page story featuring Jonathan Rempel, a young farmer from Nebraska. Mild-mannered and thoughtful, Rempel told the reporter that Trump’s ascension to the presidency in 2017 ushered in a new chapter for his own life. For the first time ever, Rempel said, he felt a sense of belonging in the United States. Trump made him feel that he was part of something larger, something noble and exalted. Walking through rows of corn, Rempel remarked: “Welcome to my life, where people are good.”
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[ He Already Saw the Election as Good vs. Evil. Then His Tractor Burned.
In Nebraska, President Trump’s supporters hope he wins a second term, and that they
get four more years of feeling like the country’s leader understands and defends them.
Jonathan Rempel enjoys the lonely feeling of being on the farm, where he can zone out in the cab of his combine or behind the wheel of his pickup, rumbling down gravel roads. Walker Pickering for The New York Times
By Dionne Searcey
Published Nov. 1, 2020 Updated Nov. 22, 2020
HENDERSON, Neb. — Jonathan Rempel has never been a loudmouth around town about his politics, but his views are clear when he asks rhetorical questions like, “Have you ever got a job from a poor person?” Or when he says that taxes are a form of extortion. They show up on Facebook, where some of his posts support gun rights and criticize a welfare state.
It was even possible to tell his political outlook from across a field, from the two “Trump 2020” flags that he had hoisted above his combine — until a couple of weeks ago, when a fire destroyed much of his farm equipment.
In Mr. Rempel’s farming community of Henderson and in the countryside that makes up much of the majority Republican state of Nebraska, people say that President Trump represents their deep convictions. And those strongly held beliefs exist in a good versus evil framework in which many see issues like abortion, immigration and what is to them the trade-exploiting, virus-spreading nation of China in the starkest of terms.
Nearly four years ago, in his election night victory speech, Mr. Trump pledged to fight for the “hard-working men and women who love their country and want a better, brighter future for themselves and for their family.”
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It is well recognized that a key to Trump’s appeal, especially among working-class white Americans, is his ability to channel and give voice to inchoate rage, resentment and grievance. Last spring at a rally in Waco, Texas, Trump told his loyalists: “I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution!”
[ They see themselves as victims. He plays on that by claiming to be on their side and that he is their savior. They believe him. He has said he is their "retribution", meaning through him they are able to get revenge. And at least some experts say revenge is the motivation for people to vote against their own interests.
[...]Att: B402 -- Opinion | What the Science of Addiction Tells Us About Trump
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This isn’t a metaphor; it’s brain biology. Scientists have found
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It’s worth asking whether this helps explain Trump’s fixation on his grievances and ways of exacting retribution for them. The hallmark of addiction is compulsive behavior despite harmful consequences. Trump’s unrelenting efforts to retaliate against those he believes have treated him unjustly (including, now, American voters) appear to be compulsive and uncontrollable. The harm this causes to himself and others is obvious but seems to have no deterrent effect. Reports suggest he has been doing this for much of his life. He seems powerless to stop. He also seems to derive a great deal of pleasure from it.
P - The science of addiction provides another cautionary insight: Trump’s revenge habit hurts not only himself and the targets of his retaliatory wrath, but the rest of us, too.
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But what has often been missed about Trump rallies and about the emotional effect Trump exerts on many of his supporters more generally is the sense of enjoyment and thrill he evokes. The New York Times columnist David French is one of the few observers who has underscored the positive feelings — the folksy fun and silliness, the thrilling sense of belonging — that people often experience at Trump rallies. In French’s words, Trump functions as a “godlike, muscular superhero” who has the magical power to make good people feel good. In his essay “Brand(ish)ing the Name; or, Why Is Trump So Enjoyable?” the anthropologist William Mazzarella employs the French word “jouissance” to convey the same Trump effect, connoting a kind of delicious enjoyment that borders on farce and shamelessness, “the raw, jaded fun of knowingly cultivated outrage, the more cynical the better.”
French suggests that the camaraderie and good feelings sit side by side with expressions of anger and hate, as when the crowd breaks out into “Let’s Go Brandon,” which is code for “Fuck Joe Biden.” Yet even this obscene invective is often uttered in a light-hearted way, as if it were a school chant at a college football game. Mazzarella argues that jouissance often feels like a guilty pleasure, feeling good while doing something that is vaguely bad. The fun Trump invokes is of the taunting kind, a “making fun” of others (the enemy) while reflexively making fun of the self too — as if to entertain, for just a moment, the possibility that I myself am not good, that I may even be “deplorable,” in Hillary Clinton’s infamous phrase, that my enemies may be right — but then again, so what? The enemy is totally worse, so let’s party and kick their ass!
Authoritarian leaders make their followers feel good by repeatedly and forcefully proclaiming that the latter are good people, and that their enemies are bad. The opening move of the authoritarian dynamic is the stark division between the good in group and the bad (evil, disgusting, poisonous) out group. Going back to Mussolini, authoritarian strongmen have presented themselves as liminal figures endowed with special powers to protect the in group from an evil world, often by restoring the in group’s lost greatness. In her book “Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present” (2021), historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat notes that the common attributes of authoritarian leaders, as perceived by their adoring followers, include proof of masculine virility (Trump’s sexual exploits work in his favor), a primal ferocity focused on winning at all costs and the invocation of a providential mission (being an instrument of God) during a time of national crisis.
But beyond the characteristics of the leader himself, authoritarianism is also about the special dynamic that exists between a leader and his followers. What psychologists call “the authoritarian personality” is a set of beliefs and values that people who are attracted to authoritarian leaders readily endorse. They include strict adherence to the conventional norms of the (good) in group, submission to (and adoration of) authorities who personify or reinforce those norms and antipathy — to the point of hatred and aggression — for those who either challenge in group norms or exist outside of them (“bad” out groups, who are often demonized or dehumanized).
In the 2016 Republican primaries, scores on a measure of these authoritarian attitudes proved to be the strongest statistical predictors of voting for Donald Trump over other Republican candidates. As Trump doubles down on fascist rhetoric and threatens to take on the role of America’s first dictator, he will continue to win support from those followers who welcome the authoritarian embrace. Trump’s comment in a December Fox News town hall that he would be a dictator on “day one” of his next term sparked the usual brouhaha in the media, but not among his supporters. “I love it,” one woman in her 50s told The Washington Post. A poll conducted in February by the University of Massachusetts, Amherst found that 74% of Republican voters think it is either “definitely” or “probably” a good idea for Trump to be a dictator for a day. Attempting to convince hardcore Trump supporters that their hero is a dangerous authoritarian is an exercise in futility, the journalist Amanda Marcotte observes. “They know — it’s why they like him.”
Whether Trump’s enduring support will be enough to return him to the White House remains, of course, the big open question. He has never, after all, won the popular vote. During his time in office, moreover, Trump’s approval ratings never reached as high as 50%. Just as he seems to enjoy everlasting appeal, there exists, on the other side of the great divide, everlasting repugnance. But this much is certain: Whatever happens, Donald Trump will continue to live on in the minds of millions of Americans as a remarkable liminal figure, the kind of personified entity around which mythologies are made — much more than a person could ever be, and much less.
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Att: janice... -- About shittypants, the thing we forget is that he is seen as Jesus. As God. SERIOUSLY.
For us ordinary people that is so far out we tend to forget it. I didn't think of it when replying to
Hanibal's .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174525770 .. earlier .
But whenever the 'why do his followers stick with him' comes up one thing we must always
include is that he is seen as the chosen one. We must seriously press that upon everyone.
The fact so many of his followers really do - REALLY DO - see him as chosen by God.
Am not kidding. It's important. That IS THE reason why so many stick with him.
Aside; The bastard is a virus and a fungus wrapped up as one, too.
Have just been reminded of that by the article will post next.
Is good you got through that. Would have been terrible. Re the treatment now, am totally serious about the tiny, very sharp scissors to cut the blisters to their very edge then put iodine on every tiny spot of liquid. I remember just now dad saying back then, the lotions moisten which is not good. The iodine drys. The infection is in the liquid in the blisters. So IF you EVER know of, or hear of someone with blisters there - or maybe in other places too (not the penis, i wouldn't go that far) cut the damn things to the very edge and iodine it all. Every his of moisture. You can see the moisture. iodine it, to dry it out. Forget all the other chemist lotion treatments. i think anyway, do the iodine bit first, at least.
LOL That is a compliment. Just sorry Shemp died so young ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shemp_Howard#Tributes .. Thank you.
Good to know just they don't give me any trouble at all, so really no reason to have them taken off. Your mother's must have hurt, i guess, as she said why didn't she do it earlier. Decades ago chemist showed me a claimed solution, even then it was about $100 i remember so didn't bother. It's a fungus .. https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/toenail-infection .
Thanks, pal. Same to you, and all others, whenever.
In the right foot "black toes" google ingrown toenails and athlete's foot was also mentioned with the gangrene. On the latter doc. said the blue (she said, looks black to me) always starts with the tips of the toes. That the little tidbit to know on gangrene. Leaving that, it's interesting i have bad ingrown toenails (big toes badly) on both feet. And on the right foot at about 13 the worst case of athlete's foot dad, who had seen a few, had ever seen. Nothing worked on it until the blisters were cut with tiny nail scissors to release the liquid in them then iodine was poured on them. It hurt like hell but, after repeated cutting and iodining, in about four-five days the foot was dry and healing. So if you ever hear of anyone with athlete's foot which the lotions and powders available don't fix that's the cure. Better still forget the other and, if blisters exist, go straight to the tiny sharp nail scissors to get right to the edge of the blisters and the iodine fix. It's the best. Will let you know on the foot but i know it will be all good. The body talks and i listen to it. 3:30am.
Well said -- "Trump has nothing in common at all with any of them. He pissed on people like them all his life from his golden toilet in his Manhattan penthouse. That is until he ran for president and realized that he needed a way to get votes. " -- just because it is exactly right.
Measured and spot on. I heard appeals in the face of jury guilty verdicts are basically on procedural grounds only so we can assume Trump's appeal will be unsuccessful. Blanche i guess said about all a defense attorney who had just lost could say. Except he shouldn't have excused Trump's reaction. He should have stopped talking after saying he doesn't tell Trump what to say to the public. I'm sick of listening to Trump's lies and whining about this already. In my lol 🙃 82 years now i've never ever heard an ex-leader of a country be so disgustingly dishonest and hypocritical toward the justice system of his country. Trump can only be described as a lying sack of shit. Just because that's what he is. Thanks, much appreciated.
One week! Guess we all share the sick, terrible, awful, horribly sucks bigly experience.
conix, Insult and LOL. It's the Trump way, screw it up and make a joke of it.
Why the ludicrous Republican response to Trump’s conviction matters
"‘Guilty on all counts’: how the world’s media reacted to the Trump trial’s historic verdict"
Republicans are busy attacking the legitimacy of the American legal and political system. We've seen where that leads.
by Zack Beauchamp
May 31, 2024, 10:35 AM GMT+10
Jury Finds Former President Donald Trump Guilty On All 34 Counts In Hush Money Trial
Former President Donald Trump and his attorney Todd Blanche exit the courthouse and speak to media after Trump was found guilty following his hush money trial at Manhattan Criminal Court on May 30, 2024, in New York City. Mark Peterson – Pool/Getty Images
Zack Beauchamp is a senior correspondent at Vox, where he covers ideology and challenges to democracy, both at home and abroad. His book on democracy, The Reactionary Spirit, will publish in July and is currently available for pre-order.
Donald Trump’s very first statement after his conviction on 34 felony charges came, quite naturally, in the form of a fundraising email. “I am a political prisoner!” the former president declared, even though he had not yet been sentenced and may never spend a day in a penitentiary.
Trump was not the only Republican lying about the verdict. Just minutes after it was released, House Speaker Mike Johnson blamed Trump’s conviction on a Democratic conspiracy.
“Democrats cheered as they convicted the leader of the opposing party on ridiculous charges,” he said. “The weaponization of our justice system has been a hallmark of the Biden Administration, and the decision today is further evidence that Democrats will stop at nothing to silence dissent and crush their political opponents.”
But Democrats didn’t convict Trump; a jury of 12 ordinary Americans did. The Biden administration played no role in prosecuting the case; the indictment came from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and was issued after federal prosecutors declined to go after Trump on similar charges .. https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/why-did-federal-prosecutors-drop-trump's-hush-money-case .
Johnson knows all that, but it doesn’t matter. His goal is to support Trump’s narrative that the entire American political and legal system is controlled by Biden and Democrats: a banana republic, not a democracy worthy of its name ..
. A range of leading Republicans — from House Majority Steve Scalise ..Welcome to the Banana Republic of America. https://t.co/dypTchgwLn
— Mike Lee (@BasedMikeLee) May 30, 2024
.. to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott ..Extremist Democrats have undermined democracy by weaponizing the courts to operate like a banana republic that targets their political opponents.
— Steve Scalise (@SteveScalise) May 30, 2024
Today’s verdict is a defeat for Americans who believe in the critical legal tenet that justice is blind. It was clear from the start…
.. to rising Senate stars Josh Hawley ..This was a sham show trial. The Kangaroo Court will never stand on appeal.
— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) May 30, 2024
Americans deserve better than a sitting U.S. President weaponizing our justice system against a political opponent— all to win an election.
We must FIRE Joe Biden in November.
.. and J.D. Vance ..This is America under Democrat rule: prosecuting political opponents whether it’s pro-life Americans or a former President
— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) May 30, 2024
— have all said basically the same thing.This decision is a disgrace to the rule of law and our Constitution.
— J.D. Vance (@JDVance1) May 30, 2024
Dems invented a felony to "get Trump," with the help of a Soros funded prosecutor and a Biden donor Judge, who rigged the entire case to get this outcome.
This isn't justice, it's election interference.
. So too did Asa Hutchinson, former governor of Arkansas.Regardless of the result, I urge all Americans to respect the verdict and the legal process. At this dangerously divided moment in our history, all leaders—regardless of party—must not pour fuel on the fire with more toxic partisanship. We must reaffirm what has made this nation…
— Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) May 30, 2024
The sooner Trump crashes the better for America. He was found guilty by a jury because he was guilty. It's that simple.
B402, Suggesting the Guardian rethink a headline just because a warped, overly zealous conservative is able to
distort one to support his dislike of Democrats wouldn't go any better before any jury than Trump's defense did.
'* Analysis: Trump was convicted of 34 felonies. What is Biden’s next move?
who is Biden's next move on?
Lol, couldn't resist that one, sorry
The Guardian may want to rethink some of their headlines :)"
Biden neither charged Trump nor found him guilty. You doing your Trumpian thing
simply by changing Trump's words doesn't fly with the jury you face here either.
Now IF you said who is Trump's next target you would be demonstrating some honest awareness of the situation.
Plumbing better here too, almost kept MacIntyre and Hughes. Change of strategy next segment, i hope.
GL at DK, hope you win a motza.
‘Guilty on all counts’: how the world’s media reacted to the Trump trial’s historic verdict
"Has the prosecution made its case in the Trump hush money trial? Legal observers weigh in
"In the trial, like the election, Trump’s base is inoculated against loss"
Hung. Or guilty. It was always going to be."
The former president appears on front pages across the globe on Friday, as the
world’s media takes in the unprecedented outcome of the hush-money trial
* Full report: Trump found guilty of hush-money plot to influence 2016 election
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/30/trump-trial-hush-money-verdict
* Analysis: Trump was convicted of 34 felonies. What is Biden’s next move?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/30/trump-guilty-hush-money-trial-biden-response
Jonathan Yerushalmy
Fri 31 May 2024 12.51 AEST
Last modified on Fri 31 May 2024 13.37 AEST
Former president Donald Trump, seen through a camera viewfinder, speaks to members of the media. Newspapers across the world have been reacting to his guilty verdict. Photograph: Jeenah Moon/AP
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“Guilty on all counts,” is the headline on the Guardian’s front page on Friday, after Donald Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records in a historic criminal hush-money trial.
It took the jury less than 12 hours to reach a verdict in the unprecedented first criminal trial against a current or former US president.
On the big question of whether the verdict will affect the outcome of November’s presidential election – in which poll after poll shows Trump to be the marginal favourite over incumbent Joe Biden – the paper’s Washington bureau chief David Smith is clear: “If this doesn’t do it, perhaps nothing will.”
Illustration: Guardian
The headline is no less historic in the New York Times, the paper of record in a city that for years was intertwined with the image of the former president, and is now the site of his conviction.
In an opinion piece, published after the verdict, the paper’s editorial board .. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/30/opinion/trump-trial-guilty-felony.html .. offered the blunt assessment that “The jury’s decision, and the facts presented at the trial, offer yet another reminder — perhaps the starkest to date — of the many reasons Donald Trump is unfit for office.
“The greatest good to come out of this sordid case is the proof that the rule of law binds everyone, even former presidents.”
Photograph: NYT front page
Germany’s Der Spiegel has a characteristically creative headline with the world “Guilty!” repeated 34 times; one for every count on which the former president was convicted.
Photograph: Der Spiegel
Weekly magazine the New Yorker worked at record speed to turn around this cover for its next edition.
David Remnick, the magazine’s editor, says that the conviction is “only the most recent stain on the legal history of the former president”, but goes on to note .. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/06/10/trump-is-guilty-but-voters-will-be-the-final-judge .. that despite his guilt in this case, the final judgment will be made by voters in November.
Next week's @newyorker cover. https://t.co/t0PCZyr8BO pic.twitter.com/FfEnoKdaGw
— Michael Luo (@michaelluo) May 30, 2024
THE TIMES: Trump found guilty in hush money trial #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/Yo34KTxnW9
— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) May 30, 2024
TELEGRAPH: Trump Guilty #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/O00rB7gxU1
— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) May 30, 2024
MIRROR: Trump guilty #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/RlSq7LHTAr
— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) May 30, 2024
STAR: You’ve been Tango’d #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/bkUajVxlsK
— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) May 30, 2024
conix, Your need to explain yourself is telling. Simple fact it is an effort directed at decreasing violence toward women. Being you, you made it a big government issue
""Trigger warning
The insanity of having a special governmental post to monitor men's behavior and minimize "toxic masculinity" was the point of my post.
You could have posted--"Yeah, saw that report in our media. A bit too far and over the top."
Yeah, i could have, just i have more trust in government than you do. It wouldn't be a "trigger warning" for a healthy person in a healthy democracy.
What will the parliamentary secretary for men's behaviour change do?
The role will largely focus on the influence the internet and social media are having on boys' and men's attitudes towards women, as well as building respectful relationships, Richardson said.
While Richardson will work closely with Vicki Ward, the Minister for the Prevention of Family Violence, Allan said tackling gender-based violence was a "whole of government responsibility".
Richardson said he felt "honoured" to be taking on the role.
"We need to make sure that no one loses their life to violence against women," he told reporters in Melbourne on Tuesday.
"We know the cultural change in attitudes towards women and respect for women is so very critical.
"I hope I can bring, along with all my colleagues – but also all of our community, that change over time."
Your link - https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/it-starts-with-us-how-this-state-hopes-to-change-mens-attitudes-towards-women/cjk2ip4er
A parliamentary secretary, not exactly a big government issue.
PS: If you were living in that Victoria i wonder if you would call for the elimination of
" Vicki Ward, the Minister for the Prevention of Family Violence" from the government too.
Violent Trumpers -- 'I'll take up arms if he asks': Violent supporters line up behind Trump
"Repeat excerpts: Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun
[...][Insert: Cleta the cheata, N Carolina - As 2024 Voting Battles Heat Up, North Carolina G.O.P. Presses Forward
"Yep. Trump does still have much control within the GOP. See YouTube of the NBC News video in yours
[...]Lawyer [insert Mar. 25, Cleta Mitchell] Who Plotted to Overturn Trump Loss Recruits Election Deniers to Watch Over the Vote
Mar. 2, 2023 - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171344479 "
When losing on all policy fronts what do you do? Lie. Cheat. Try to steal. The Trump GOP way.
Republicans, whose edge in the state has narrowed in recent years, have gone on offense politically, leading to clashes over voting access and control over elections.
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Some of them have rewritten statutes to seize partisan control of decisions about which ballots to count and which to discard, which results to certify and which to reject. They are driving out or stripping power from election officials who refused to go along with the plot last November, aiming to replace them with exponents of the Big Lie. They are fine-tuning a legal argument that purports to allow state legislators to override the choice of the voters.
[...][CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA. Conservative anti-democratic extremism rejected. For now. Be warned though - seriously warned -
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Steven Carrillo Sentenced to 41 Years in Prison for Murder and Attempted
Murder for Role in Drive-By Shooting at Federal Courthouse in Oakland
[...]... boogaloo members tend to have at least one overarching belief: They claim they are preparing
for, and are even seeking to bring about, another civil war, or “boogaloo.”
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[...]Cassidy Hutchinson’s Testimony Changed Our Minds About Indicting Donald Trump
[...]But Tuesday’s explosive testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, changed our minds. In particular, Hutchinson testified to hearing Trump order that the magnetometers (metal detectors) used to keep armed people away from the president be removed: “I don’t fucking care that they have weapons, they’re not here to hurt me. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the fucking mags [magnetometers] away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here; let the people in and take the mags away.”
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[...]Miloševic, Pape said, inspired bloodshed by appealing to fears that Serbs were losing their dominant place to upstart minorities. “What he is arguing” in the 1989 speech “is that Muslims in Kosovo and generally throughout the former Yugoslavia are essentially waging genocide on the Serbs,” Pape said. “And really, he doesn’t use the word replaced. But this is what the modern term would be.”"
Julia Conley, Common Dreams
May 31, 2024 1:03PM ET
A Trump-themed flag is flown by supporters across the street from Trump Tower before former U.S. President Donald Trump holds a press conference in New York City on May 31, 2024. (Photo: Angela Weiss/AFP via Getty Images)
As supporters of Donald Trump flood right-wing platforms with threats against the jurors and judge following guilty verdicts Thursday in his criminal case regarding hush money payments, fears are growing that the influence the Republican presumptive presidential nominee has over his supporters will soon lead to violence.
"Until and unless he accepts the process, the extremist reaction to his legal troubles will be militant," Jacob Ware, a research fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, told .. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-call-riots-violent-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/ .. Reuters.
The former president gave no sign of accepting the legal process Friday as he held a press conference at Trump Tower, repeating claims that the case had been "rigged."
Shortly after a New York jury announced its verdict .. https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-convicted .. in the case regarding documents that were falsified to cover up payments made to adult film star Stormy Daniel just before the 2016 election to keep her from publicizing an alleged sexual encounter she had with Trump, right-wing websites like Gateway Pundit, Truth Social, and Patriots.Win saw an uptick in violent posts from users.
One commenter called for "someone in NY with nothing to lose" to "take care of" New York Supreme Court .. https://www.rawstory.com/supreme-court/ .. Justice Juan Merchan, while another on Gateway Pundit directed a threat at any and all opponents of Trump.
"Time to start capping some leftys," said the user. "This cannot be fixed by voting."
The reaction is a direct result, said Ware, of Trump's "insistence that he is being mistreated."
Trump retains an ironclad ability to mobilize more extreme supporters to action, both at the ballot box and through violence. His repeated insistence that he is being mistreated will inevitably lead to violent mobilization. https://t.co/dUwSDJ4OcS
— Jacob Ware (@Jacob_A_Ware) May 31, 2024
Collins, like almost every other Republican, is lying about what Bragg said on the campaign trail. He did not promise to prosecute Trump. Reporters should call them on it, not just reprint their statements uncritically. https://t.co/yVC78g58BC
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) May 31, 2024
Yes, on seeing the foot i googled and with gangrene the other familiar problem mentioned was diabetes,
and that you and others with it had a greater chance of developing gangrene. One here ..
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gangrene/symptoms-causes/syc-20352567 .
I do appreciate the good thoughts as all others on the receiving end here would too. The fact we mentio
our troubles off and on here i don't see as a weakness of a basically political board but as
a strength. We share more than world news and political stuff cuz we are who we are.
No person is above the law. It's that simple. 'Grotesque' Marco Rubio trashed over his 'absurd' response to Trump conviction
Tom Boggioni
May 31, 2024 7:16AM ET
Marco Rubio (R-FL) speaks to reporters at the\u00a0U.S. Capitol on Feb.\u00a09, 2023 in Washington, D.C.\u00a0(Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
The entire panel on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," piled on Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) on Friday morning for rushing to Donald Trump's defense after the former president was convicted of 34 felonies in a Manhattan courtroom.
After the jury returned its verdict, the Florida senator rushed out a video .. https://www.rawstory.com/all-video/ .. where he compared Trump's conviction .. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-verdict-hush-money-2668394011/ .. for financial fraud related to paying off a porn star to Fidel Castro's Cuba.
After MSNBC legal analyst Lisa Rubin called out Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) for his "grotesque" comments about the jury's decision — adding that Republicans were engaging in "competitive sycophancy" — co-host Joe Scarborough brought up Rubio whom he also labeled "grotesque."
ALSO READ: Buckle up for Trump's 'October Surprise'
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/buckle-up-for-trump-s-october-surprise/
"Speaking of grotesque, if a guy whose family escaped Castro's Cuba, communist Cuba, a country that Castro ran with an iron fist, there was no rule of law there. There was just repression. There was tyranny," Scarborough interjected with co-host Mika Brzezinski adding, "What an insult."
"Marco, like these other people, all because they want to cozy up to Donald Trump and maybe be his vice president, they degrade themselves, and they slander America," Scarborough continued. "Rubio said in the E. Jean Carroll case, a jury of his peers was a joke because he didn't like the outcome. now, he is comparing America to Castro's Cuba, which I will say, yes, it's meant to kiss up to Donald Trump and shock everybody else. Doesn't shock me."
"It hurts me as a patriot to hear people hating on America, but I do know at the end of the day, it's only going to end up hurting Marco Rubio, Donald Trump, and the Republican party even more, because people don't buy their propaganda," he added.
That led MSNBC contributor Katty Kay to assert, "Yeah. I mean, Marco Rubio of all people knows that this is absurd. The American justice system is not remotely like Cuba's justice system where there is no system of justice. He knows that, and he is only doing this to suck up to Donald Trump."
Watch the video below or at this link.
No thanks to you for diminishing the worth of the rule of law in your country. No playing here. This isn't funny at all.
Thks. Is just after 5am, so in roughly eight hours i will.
B402, Now you are suggesting you are a Russian bot. I only saw you as a guy who claimed to be
independent, yet turned out to be as conservative as can be. You are a jerk, that's obvious now.
B402, You should be paid by Trump for echoing him.
In a world of too much ugliness, gotta create it wherever you can.
B402, Seriously. A jury found your asshole guilty. You country has always prided itself as one based on a rule of law. Read what you just said:
"You fail to see the content of this case, how it was brought about, how the law was used and against whom and when.......
If you're the critical thinker you say you are and can be, you'd push aside those political blinders and look at this particular case in an objective light "
Projection much??? Seriously.
Thks. Hope it's right. Yep, lucky we have skin to keep us in place.
No, only what i felt you were. Anyway, you should have been happy Australia is taking further steps to cut down on violence against women. You could have posted that link and said something like, 'Well done Australia." The fact you took the road you took in trying to turn it against Australia, then against me, is good evidence that what i felt about you must be pretty close to the mark. Mean.
See my doc. tomorrow for the blood test and x-ray results, which will be all good on both fronts. Guarantee it. You must know oldies who get what look like bruises on forearms or other places which are just minor bleeding under the skin. Now that i'm pretty certain that's all it it all worry is gone. Thinners does that. And i learned no more gout tablets. If get gout see doc for something which doesn't do more thinning. Didn't know that tidbit before.
Oh, LOL, just remembered it's June 1, my birthday. Haha, wasn't going to say anything, but wth. .. .. 82 ..
I'll be walking. Best to your new womanfriend.