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Did you get your package yet?? LOL
Well I think the work started a bit later than they thought perhaps, so the ribbon cutting got delayed. I thought someone said middle of the month but since we are there now might be end of month but might find out something soon.
I do not think it was a "fake" or made up PR event.
Question for you Rock...
A/D line almost straight up..
Trying to figure out the trading since about .010 or so..
First there was a huge bid on the 9s to flip at 11 or 12, then the 8s, then the 7s, now the 6s.. All this big bids picked up tons of shares however they were not able to sell them (if the intention was to flip a few ticks higher). Since the stock has not run up since this started.
So there are two possibilities..
1- They keep going lower in hopes that a move from 6 to 9 is a bigger percentage move to bail them out..
2- Someone is just adding a ton of stock that nervous people are bailing out of ..and really does not care about selling them anytime soon..
Could be either, but do not really understand it... any thoughts?
I have been checking the NYSE bell calendar every day, but so far no news on anyone fitting the bill. The dry run was around June 24th? or so. One would think soon. I did ask around and found out sometimes they do a few dry runs over a few weeks to make sure everything goes off without a hitch. But I cant see it being more than a month so we should know soon.
To me , if the picture is the real people (Jasmine pic) then it looks like medical or biotech or tech to me based on what the people look like LOL
Not sure the process of things but one would think if it was us things would have been cleaned up by now. But it does seem weird that if that tweet reply was correct someone on the boards would know of another subpenny cleared of millions in debt heading to nyse by now.
I actually subscribed to the paper for a month to read the article. The loan was forgiven between the town and the agency that fronted them the money. Not sure on the status with Windstream. It might have been forgiven as well. But the local paper did not get into enough detail to determine this.
It is certainly possible. As I have stated before 160 million was the prior high market cap, back before ImpactPPA existed, back when we had a a lot more debt (at least in terms of what we heard much of that is gone) and before this new wave of interest in solar/alt power due to rising fuel prices and a new emphasis on global climate change. So many factors can add to that.
I have seen companies with nothing selling for 200 million market caps.
It is really up to the one thing we do not know yet. What is the "solid plan"..
Well this part is easy..
Windstream was dark for a few years, sitting trading , usually with no bid and an ask at .0001
A company that once had a 160 million dollar market cap was sitting at 220k market cap when I bought in. As more shares got diluted it became at 420k market cap.
Then the ImpactPPA thing started going around. People posted about it put 2 and 2 together. Before we heard about the stock had started trading on the 1s pretty regularly then popped to 2..
At the same time some interested parties started posting about the stock on other boards and the stock "woke up"
Everything was pretty much dead on except the fact that the Modi thing got delayed and the news from Bates was not as "soon" and "shortly" as we had hoped.
We really know the value is here, the question is what is the structure of the deal and when does it all break..
Went over to barcharts for wsti. On the drop down add accum/distribution to the chart.
All that happened here is lots of big owners sold into the price upswing then bought back. We are net up 532 million shares. That usually does not happen if something is going to fall apart.
We had the wake up run, and if news and Modi happened on time we would be much higher right now. But between the size of the run and those two things being delayed we were poised for a big correction.
Right now it really boils down to the plan. We know 1- Wsti has business 2- WSTI has less debt 3- That there is a plan 4- That we are listed as a partner bringing about 186 million dollars plus in business to ImpactPPA (about 1 million or more per MW).
With all the hot money, flippers and scared hands out, when it does move it will be fast.
The plan will determine what we see here in terms of price . That is really where we are. In terms of timing... Modi will probably happen at at least be announced within the next few weeks. The plan cannot be too long now.
If we are waiting for a court case to be resolved it has been way longer than the usual 90 days for a judge to make a ruling on the dismissal. If its a money only thing it shouldnt really matter, and it is also possible the resolution is a negotiated one if things are happening that would allow WSTI to take care of it in another way..
Well I for one would like to know the reason why the PlusOne coin Max supply increased about 25% . After all MAX supply is max supply.
The whole deal with these coins is seeing where the max supply is, looking at the potential, otherwise it is just a coin dilution gig.
Is there anyone official to contact regarding this?
thought it was just me.
Get to website, go back to faucet just returns to faucet page. No 5 coin for me LOL
tried a dozen times, now doesnt even load website half the time! Glad it is not just me :)
cryptocompare
Max Supply
21,000,000.0
Algorithm
HMQ1725
Proof Type
PoW
Start Date
03/01/2018
Twitter
@PlusOneCoin
Website
PlusOneCoin
DifficultyAdj.
Every 2,100 blocks
BlockRR.
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PlusOneCoin
Max supply:
21 000 000 PLUS1
cryptocurrencies supply
PlusOneCoin (PLUS1) HMQ1725; PoW 21000000
Yes, it is the US company not affiliated at all with WSTI
"Windstream Energy LLC <======new york
is the sole owner of the Windstream Wolfe Island Shoals Wind Energy Project, a 300 MW offshore wind power project in eastern Lake Ontario.
Windstream is also the owner of the largest Feed-In-Tariff contract with the province of Ontario."
Why is the max supply number changing? it was 24 million the other day?
It is not a MAX if it changes ;)
Ok yeah I found it as well. (thanks for posting)
So what this is saying is that the event happened after the 3rd quarter closed but before the financials were issued.
Thus the numbers on the financials were all correct but disclosure in the footnotes was missing. Financials not only show numbers for the quarter but "subsequent events". So that would have been needed.
Now while I understand this and the officers should know this is it not uncommon for complex thing like this where people feel well it happened in the 4th quarter as long as its in the 4th quarter etc etc.. So they did disclose it just after the 3rd quarter and the accountant realized there should have been a disclosure..
We all have known about the 55% ownership as we saw the 10Q from 3rd quarter 2015. Whatever this was that happened , happened earlier than that.
If I am correct the net effect of 9 months worth of this was about 200k loss on WSTIs income statement . Which all things considered is not that huge. If they screwed up the 9 months it would be 100k effect (100% vs 55% etc).. given that they had huge losses and this did not make a big difference since there was no net profit it was probably just a mistake not something intentional.
Where did you find the accounting firm quit? They might have quit because Dan was having a hard time money wise..
Yes, the reason why I mentioned the
1- Table with projects
2- Income statement
(both in White paper)
Is I was working on the flow of money. I was not able to get answers but Dan sent me a message saying he was taking it off the telegram board which I totally understood. (I had posted a bunch of questions a few of which might have revealed WSTI details he cannot talk about)
But if you think about how it will work. ImpactPPA or financing will pay for the installations. Then If ImpactPPA had paid for the installation WSTI gets paid up front or in stages of completion however they work it. And then collect the energy revenue.
If the project is say financed by a 3rd party. Lets just say 10pwr.com
Then Impact would get a smaller cut of the energy revenue because some would go to WSTI to pay back the system cost etc.. Who in turn would pay back the financing.
My info is that BOTH of these things can happen. Which is good.
ImpactPPA on the other hand has very low COGS (cost of good sold) and high profit margins and a really good revenue stream. To be honest if it works, I have not seen a real business like this in the blockchain world at all just ideas for business.
I agree! And when the preferred amendment came to the sec of state the buying slowed to a trickle.
While we have no real evidence of anything like this happening. If we were smart enough to see it, someone else had to think about it.
Also control of company would be 2.3 billion or so shares.
It probably was not done but if it was it could self finance by having a much higher valuation then issuing selling the stock. While also booking large gains on it for the financials.
While we speculate... if it was cancelled the TA would know about it. But I did find out if it was not cancelled and held in broker name somewhere it would still technically be OS with a plan in place perhaps. So it MIGHT be remotely possible...
Well everyone has a right to feel frustrated. But for many of us , after waiting 2-3 years or more we can sense it is finally close.
If Bates says anything right now before things happen he can ruin everything for himself and us here. There are strict rules on things. It could also be something like them being in contact with securities people and being told they have xx time to get disclosures done providing they do not PR before the ticker is up to date with filings. All kinds of reasons ...
Lets see how this month closes out and where we stand.
No , not true. In these deals if I am reading thing right, WSTI gets the bulk of the initial money because it it for the equipment. I tried to gain further details but I could not because of the lockdown on anything related to WSTI right now.
Good idea! Just sticky'd it :)
Thanks for all the great info SUTT!
After years , whatever will happen is much closer !
Yes!! One thing that I liked personally was those people getting back to work not once but twice in North Vernon, Indiana..
Because of the difficulties he had there are a lot of locals with nastiness there. I cant wait for Dan to make this happen so I can back there to the local boards and personally show his success to the negative nellies LOL.
I even subscribed to the north vernon newspaper , I thought it was one month online subscription to gain access to the article where the loan was forgiven from the agency the town borrowed the money from to lend to Bates. But I get this newspaper now at my office (print edition LOL)
I just know Dan wants to hear Snap's " Ive got the Power" song being played at a party. We can get Bloomberg and Forbes peeps there...
Ive got the Power
Then we do the series across the world with the same song whenever a major installation goes up..
Sorta like the Where in the World is Matt series here he dances everywhere in the world like this..
Where is Matt
Just as a side note , last night I got followed on twitter by people with 500k followers. Next bugle blast gonna have more zing to it!
Weekend Updated Analysis and New DD
More so than ever I am totally convinced there is value here in both the ImpactPPA project and in WSTI (Windstream Technologies). I have recently confirmed something I had heard from MWM a while back but to be honest at the time I did not think too much of it because there were not many details and I was not sure if he was "just saying it" . But the NY conference spurred some serious interest. They have had a professional road show been to many countries and have top people involved. I have looked at a lot of crypto stuff. I was in Bitcoin when it was 10 bucks, most ICO stuff is complete garbage now but this IS NOT. It is the EXACT use of crypto that makes sense. Removing red tape and bottlenecks to solve a problem with a real solution that is already demo'd with projects already going on. The amount of other "coins or tokens" with this much going for them is near ZERO.
People are circling Dan Bates with money now. I have personally put this stuff in front of tons of people myself and connected with some people that are much bigger players than I am by a factor of 100x at least. He has a winner here in this overall idea of financing electricity in the 3rd world buy having the payment process go through the blockchain etc. and if the white paper is to be believed ,WSTI is a PARTNER and a key factor in the success of the Impact project.
Followers of the WSTI story know that having a sales pipeline was never the problem but that financing was. We have confirmed that just a few years ago ,before all this recent stuff the pipeline was 70 million or so.
I have also spoken to people that are familiar with Dan through past dealings who can bring a ton of business to Dan. In general I noticed interest perking up when I started getting contacted by people I reached out to and spoke with up to 2 years ago.
To be sure, no one really knows much more about WSTI in particular than we do. But the interest level is high and from what I hear money is interested. I have this from numerous sources. I follow everything very closely and what has been happening with these ICO and token deals is all small to medium players are pretty beat up but that big money guys are stepping up to the plate and often just a handful of people take the whole deal. I believe this will be the case with ImpactPPA.
With ImpactPPA getting money, WSTI as a result having millions of dollars in equipment sales and perhaps even working out other financing for deals with projects like 10pwr.com etc we are cleared for having enough business and money to really start rolling.
So lets look at where things stand..
ImpactPPA has a white paper, lists WSTI as a partner, a forward looking company that is set to provide a huge list of revenue producing projects.
It is the opinion of almost everyone I have talked to that he cannot let WSTI languish in SEC non-compliance land much longer as the key partner in a deal he is trying to sell. In fact, that alone has probably kept a lot of money on the sidelines longer than it should have been. I am near 100% sure WSTI will be caught up and a press release issued . I have also heard that given all that is going on Dan has to be very careful not to say anything for a whole lot of reasons. So I would at least in the short term realize that is in our best interest. If people ask 100x he still will not say anything. Because he cant.
So the bottom line is what the heck does all this mean for investors in WSTI stock?
I know on these boards people are either really bullish, or bearish or pretending to be bearish to get in lower. I am generally really bullish but always try to tell an accurate story so in terms of how things will go the scenarios are all over the place so I will tell you all of them below...
We have a company that is selling for a 3 million dollar market cap or so that is worth more than 160 million most likely (its prior market cap high as a starting point. When we had that market cap, the stock had a ton of debt, a pipeline about 1/3 or less of the current one and sales of probably about 2-3 million. Just for starters. With no crypto angle tie in.
All that is left is how the structure goes down.
1- Will the fund raise in Impact combined with any new WSTI financing be enough to allow WSTI to get current open up and run organically? In that scenario we are in multiple pennies, probably very quickly. And maybe even much higher than any of us think because we all know stocks that go to levels that you cannot even dream of hitting when you calculate the potential.
2-Will we reverse split and issue more shares that dilute current owners potential. This is a real possibility. The returns then depend on how much new money is raised as a reverse in itself while perceived negatively is not dilutive. It is nearly impossible to determine possible share prices for us as there are lots of variables. Also we are selling with a "Dark" and "Stop sign" discounts now which could be taken off at the same time as any perceived negative announcement. My best guesses are that in this case would be that with mild dilution 3.5 cents could be come a penny or even less, low point .0060. but if a total screw job it can be lower.
3- A few very smart people I have talked to have said one possibility would be that ImpactPPA raises money and actually goes public itself and then offers X amount to WSTI shareholders in some sort of merger thing. Or even that a new entity is formed and holds both WSTI and ImpactPPA. This is a possibility as well. But I would worry here that scenarios would be not as favorable to us in general but who knows, when funny paper money is around people can be more generous.
With so many things on the table from both really great and really not so great. The answer probably lands somewhere in between. Reasoning? There would be some problems if shareholders did not get any piece of this pie, but the fact is if there is money to be made chances are they will use that chance to raise some to have capital to work with. It is also possible that I am much to conservative in valuation and even with that it could work out well but my guess is somewhere between the low end and high end is where this will wind up.
It is entirely possible that there are things we do not know about, like the purchase of stock in the open market over the last few years that might not have been cancelled yet or even buyout offers. Lots of things can happen.
It really is up to Dan and the people advising him. I never met Dan but got a lot of input from people that have.
I am not sure where his thinking is but hope he strongly considers the interest of the shareholders many of whom have owned stock for 3 or 4 years . I have spoken with the attorney re: the same . And most of you have seen my comments about the reverse split post even though it did not mention WSTI..
The best thing is to be respectful to him let him get this done. Give him every reason to care about your interests rather than feel everyone is a daytrader idiot gumming up his work site for Impact investors.
Dont worry if in any way we wind up on the too short end of the stick there is plenty of ammo with the support of approx 25% of the stock to start with.
So in a few years we have gone from a lotto shot to a company involved in one of the most exciting areas of crypto at a time when oil and gas prices are up and interest in solar and alt power is up. We have big money looking at all the potential. We have an attorney who has worked to restructure and cancel a bunch of debt and we have been mentioned in a whitepaper as a partner in a deal with top people involved. We are part of energy projects all over the world and both North Vernon and India are working building product. This is light years ahead of where we were .
If it were me, I would have done the deal as RSH and I discussed years ago. Bought up all the cheap stock reducing the OS. Then when the company cleaned up or restructured brought everything current and the valuation alone would allow the company to issue that stock without diluting the initial positions at much higher levels.
We are now within weeks or a month or two of whatever happens here. Let us hope this is one time we get a lucky break (or two).
The party will be amazing . The hotel is a wonder of the world and use to be the Conde Nast world HQ. A stream with fish running through the inside of the hotel , gazebo bars,trees and plants inside . Gorgeous place. We deserve it! I am going to have some of my actor/actress friends I made while supporting independent films come (since Bates was in films years ago) and I have an amazing date for the event a girl I have been friends with for years that saw my interest in the NYC blockchain conference and wanted to go with me.
First song will be "POWER" by SNAP whose chorus goes "Ive got the POWER" LOL
Trust me it will happen! I keep my word, the bar cooler is almost to SKinnydude.
Good luck to everyone, let us hope Dan Bates makes it rain! He will enjoy the party.
After we have a bunch of drinks we can chat and watch his film
please see trailer below for one of Dans films..
House of the Dead
Trailer for One of Dans films
What is encouraging is that he is not saying anything .
Unlike other situations where CEOs who cannot spell & issue pump tweets the guy knows what he has to do and for the first time is surrounded by people advising him correctly.
Hope you got your ticket, you made enough to afford one.
You been out of the loop a bit on the recent DD because at times people might not feel like sharing with you.
But to catch you up. Big money circling this deal. To be honest I am not as good a trader as you seem to be and have no crystal ball but the only question left is who gets the pie and how it is divided up. If the goal of some people out there is to grab stock lower thats ok with me, it provides liquidity until the main event.
Good luck to you... if your are nice you will not only make bank here but you will get your second big win with something else shortly.
Thanks NCdreams
I wish people would not do that but you can understand the frustration some people have . Maybe if they use the email address things will stay pretty clean over there on the telegram channel.
Even us positive people are burned out from all the craziness.
Hope you have a nice weekend!
Let us hope someone hears ya ;)
You coulda had your bar cooler but FedEX missed ya , you can call them though maybe they got it locally, pick it up, pack it with some ice and beer and enjoy the weekend!!
FedEx tracking #417497356067 <---- Call FED EX give them this number
Delivery exception - Customer not available or business closed
Just a friendly reminder that calling someone a conman in a public forum is not usually a smart idea.I would edit that part out or delete it.
We will see what happens. Everyone here knows that when a company is dark there are risks. We have known this for years.
But for Dan to be successful, given that he has listed Windstream as a PARTNER in its ImpactPPA effort and where the majority of revenue will be coming from (its project base), I find it hard to believe he will scuttle WSTI in any way shape or form.
If he was going to do that he
1- Wouldnt be in court fighting a toxic lender
2- Bother restructuring
3- Mention WSTI in his most recent and most likely final White paper..
Not sure if people really believe this or not but everyone is entitled to an opinion
From what I have seen, intentions are usually not filed anywhere. They could have made a phone call or contacted someone (or perhaps were contacted by someone there etc)... Usually what I have seen is management states something like "they expect filings to be updated by xx date" etc. then it either happens or doesnt happen etc.. Usually it does though.
Right now I have an overwhelming sense that things are close for a few different reasons . I think everything is in lock down quiet period. Just feels like it.
I know it feels that way, to be honest, one cant help but feel a bit bad.
But my take on it, is I believe we are close to news or something big and they have to tight lip everything and make sure no one spills one tiny thing that can be misconstrued.
Seeing that everyone is in the dark here up and down like a yoyo so far so good for that LOL
However , and this is just my opinion based on my sense of things. There appears to be more eyes on things here on the board and on Impact right now. I am not sure what is going to happen , while I am hopeful there are no guarantees in anything but I would guess that they are in super lockdown mode to ensure nothing gets messed up.
So where does that leave us? Personally, Ill see what happens til the end of the month then have some other ideas. Whatever might be happening will be close.
I just get the sense that something has changed . I am hoping its for the better but we shall see soon enough..
Very true .. Its been a long time but years ago when I invested it was a 100 to 1 lotto play with no bid. It just woke up around the time my dad was very ill and I should have added more. Before you know it it was much higher.. Just the way luck goes..
So I owned this hi tech purse company's stock. They had a nice little run but fell on hard times for various reasons. Stock cratered but was going to become a blockchain company and for some crazy reason people were chucking in money. So when it reversed from .015 to 15 I had loaded up on the bottom and then sold half as it ran to 49 cents post reverse (sold 42)
Sitting there with what I thought was going to be a blockchain company that was once a purse company the tide changed and it was now going to be a pot company LOL . Stock halted. In Canada they halt for months pending the actual change in business operations. Deal was announced recently , should close end of this month and stock trade again etc... originally hoped that money would be free by now but should be a 5 bagger. just followed the private funds as they put in like 10 million , that is pretty big money for a po-dunk beat up stock LOL
Not an expert on trading but in my opinion..
the people that were buying 9s trying to sell at 11
and buying 8s to sell at 10
then 7s to sell at 9 etc etc...
Never unloaded much of their stock. So there might be an effort to load up 6s and 7s then remove the asks convince everyone there is a run to clean out their position.
Just a guess, but all those shares bought were not flipped higher and someone is buying them.
So either 1- it is what I stated above or
2- they really do not want to sell them just for the price to go down to buy more.
Both are possible here
For the last few years we have suggested that it would be a smart option to do that but we have no evidence of that. I did about as much checking as possible. There has been no change to OS stock since the pop here.
Normally in a buyback the shares would be cancelled and removed from oustanding stock. There was some evidence in my research that there can be stock bought and not cancelled. Which would be the interesting situation where the company could then resell it later. But I do not think that has happened or is happening here based on the facts (just being honest)
But being dark it is hard to tell much of anything.
Back a few years ago I speculated if I was a wealthy investor I could buy a ton of stock help with the restructuring then when the value went from (Then 420k) to 150 million I could own 30-40% or more of a company worth that much with almost no risk to the outlayed fix up capital.
WSTI has always had a project pipeline just struggled with funding.
Welcome to the board Mikey! Tankers are welcome here! ;) LOL
Today we have regular at 7 cents and premium at 8.
Feel free to gas up !
If you have any questions feel free to ask lots of people have info here.
Thanks! I like to be straight with people. Of course we all start out not wanting to make emotion riddled choices but we tend to over time.
As I pointed out a few times missing out on 57,000 in money by failing to hold bitcoin 6 more months was a lesson learned for me. I mean I had it pegged all along. So I am trying to cover cost and be more patient knowing I really cannot lose , keeps me in the game longer. So I set alerts in TD (First time I ever did that) and try to stay to things..
The two main things we are looking for now are
1- The date for the PM of India (MODI) to cut the ribbons. It was delayed and last word someone got was mid month which we are pretty much at now. But even if it was end of month the date might come soon.
2- A press release announcing next steps for WSTI and where we are at.
I wish I had a crystal ball. I had sold some stock on the way up as my plan to cover cost then book some gains, wound up buying almost all of it back and then sold recently 600k just to cover cost.
But even my own thoughts on thing are up and down. It is easy when you see all the bouncing. I have a small position though and got in early I do not play with big dollars here.
While I now have a little money to chase if it breaks, I wish I had a bit more. I have a pot conversion stock coming off halt soon, if that flips ill have more to add on any dips or news.
The two main things we are looking for now are
1- The date for the PM of India (MODI) to cut the ribbons. It was delayed and last word someone got was mid month which we are pretty much at now. But even if it was end of month the date might come soon.
2- A press release announcing next steps for WSTI and where we are at.
I wish I had a crystal ball. I had sold some stock on the way up as my plan to cover cost then book some gains, wound up buying almost all of it back and then sold recently 600k just to cover cost.
But even my own thoughts on thing are up and down. It is easy when you see all the bouncing. I have a small position though and got in early I do not play with big dollars here.
While I now have a little money to chase if it breaks, I wish I had a bit more. I have a pot conversion stock coming off halt soon, if that flips ill have more to add on any dips or news.
It was a buyer that took out multiple sellers across 3 different market makers stock
Welcome back :)
Short vacation ;)
I do not know the answer to the first question regarding the patent. Patents sometimes get done in peoples names or company names or both but that is a good question. Not sure if it matters much if Windstream owns the patent whether Dan is listed or not?
Second question. Another good question. Everyone here wants a press release like ... yesterday. I personally am not sure of the legal reasons why a press release can or cannot be released but there might be some reason for it. While I have seen statements by other entities that filings were being worked on or coming etc, perhaps Bates just wants to get them done and announce everything at once. Not sure.
It is frustrating that "soon" has turned into a few months now. I have to expect we do in fact hear something soon, perhaps by the end of the month.
So much stuff going on that I believe we should hear something by then or sooner.
Patience is tough when a stock is going down knowing that it could easily go up if just a few things were done. But I think a reasonable period of time has passed and if we do not hear something by the end of the month we could speak up a bit more.
The reason I say this is WSTI is listed as a PARTNER and the main source of revenue producing projects in the ImpactPPA whitepaper.
I have to imagine that given the relationship and all the eyes on both these things these filings need to be done and a press release very soon.
Every transaction has both a buyer and a seller (unless it came from the market makers pool of shares)
The BUYER paid the ASK, the SELLER sold at the ASK. It was an uptick which started the stock moving up.
The stock was trading on the bid, then the large buy came in , moved the stock up a notch. We know because in watching it the ask was taken out in a few minutes. I saw every trade on delay.
WSTI is the stock symbol for Windstream Technologies.
This same demo using Windstream Technologies equipment was shown in :
1- Haiti where the system was constructed on site and there is a time lapse video of it
2- North Vernon, Indiana - video
3- The one just posted.
Even a system provided by Windstream India would be 55% owned by Windstream USA as per the information in SEC filings.
Incorrect information
The 35 million was a BUYER when the bid was 7 ask was 8. It was all there in the trade history as I looked at it.
That is why when the ask was taken out it popped up to 8 to 9