Trader thanks for your reply and your pleasure.

My detailed reply just disappeared in the ether when I clicked
and returned. umm, may have acted too hastily and presumed
it had like your presumption that I was IxCimi.

Did you bother to check with that ghost, on that?

Not real impressed with your logic and fact.

Think I was probably referring to some sort of equivalence
in substance and meaning rather tham mere syntax.

I didn't say "if one "blows their brains out, the probability of death
from disease falls to zero", did I?

Have to revisit re your Wittgenstein world.

As far as "swaying a jury", I do recall saying that in the sense that we
are all a jury with your election
coming up in 10
days rather than the 3 weeks I mentioned earlier and I don't have expectations
on the outcome of that. How could you with the controvesy swirling about
the touch screen paper trailless voting contraptions. There was a good piece
on Good Morning America I just saw, maybe, you
could have seen it, your morning.

You "champion truth, and challenge thought" yet, post libe
like mis presumption without even checking first with another
concerned.

Expecting others "to change their mind because
of something I say here", is not "a problem of mine"
either, and while I know I admitted to being a blockhead
at times it seems you seem to have the occassional
brainsnap, also; most of us do.

Thanks from me, too Sam.

Sam, remember the post i made
about your African cam?

Missy, Missy, dear Missy,
you "Stranger On The Shore",
while I working and SOTS
was/still is and still
is one of my very,
very favourites.

PPPUUUUUUUULLLLLLLEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEE ...

>.>

Have expressed the sentiment

iwtjf@cgutsmc, before and will

iwtjf@cgutsmc iwtjf@cgutsmc

iwtjf@cgutsmc iwtjf@cgutsmc

.., until it happens,

and t'usting not too

much sicky finger buns

gettin' on as so many deplore.

Enough!!! Who said dat? No I didn't.
We did. Who, we? Sid, Stewie, Alfo, and Will.

Good, gettin' rough and do no more.

Sent, "To me, they haven't "made it"" either,
until they and I go green and just hope,
like you and most others they are mixing
a beneficial brew, for me and you and all
the rest, 'cause, hey, that's all

for the best for all and the rest.

Good luck to you jackdog
thanks to the others
except the last jack
that has talked to himself
in the past, to the last.

jackdog 'tis tough
here with da brudders
but, as sent, said
just gotta be our
druthers.

i'm with you, boss
and restricted from
low jigs and dances
by relatively
high cmommissions
so petitions.

just gotta 'ave 'art
eh, whato

go go, jf,

go go.

itrade, have been paddling down the stream slowly
and finding the scenery interesting and informative.

The ping pong was pretty solid until,
I felt you may have let ...

"if we don't dip into the pot"

go by to the keeper.

While the flippers, lucky them
are making cash, just maybe, also,
jf, is doing the right thing for
the company, in the long run.

Thanks, xan, for this one which I picked up
some time but was distracted down the way
and then detoured, again.

Age, we were very surprised
2 see M's post on the board
appreciated the fact that
it stood

we were timid in going
to answer, just did as
felt we should
and could

Stewie and all the gang
were timid, too
all were thinking

just the same as you

cheers and good luck to you, sire, too

ps just, between you and us, we j'st posted
this on just one, more suitable board ...

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12787011

Ther're so bad

bad

bad

bad

Stewie!

sad, yet ...

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12787011

Brings smiling faces to some ..

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?Message_id=12935613&txt2find=truth

OT, M-16, do mourn for your losses more than most from afar
and publicly respect the sense of duty and love of country
which sends so many of your young to war.

However, it saddens me greatly that with all the evidence available
so many, though each day of decreasing numbers, can continue
to support the war in Iraq, arguably one of the greatest follies
of any past and present president of that great country of yours.

My support for those in your forces and for you lies with those who are
intent on bringing them home safely to their loved ones, at the earliest
possible moment.

Personally prayer has never given solace to me as just cannot feel
any direct causal relationship, between it, in itself, and future events.

Please don't see any disrespect for your and others feelings
and position on this most important question, especially
with your election just 3 weeks around the corner, just
felt like, in all honesty, replying to your post to make
my position clear to those on this board with whom I have
made an acquaintance, on this most important question

For those so inclined, a Bob Dylan message to those who profit, from war...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?Message_id=13685210&txt2find=war

In all sincerity, Jimmy.

anybody huggable out there???

feel like some huggin'.

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/snuggly.html

"More than half of the Native Hawaiian veterans volunteered for duty in Vietnam
to obtain opportunities for education, jobs, and travel,

and they were proud to protect their home and country.

Many re-enlisted and served more than one tour, and many
attained the rank of noncommissioned officer.

They tended to value the training and discipline
of military service but often felt isolated
from their fellow soldiers.

Many faced close and personal racial prejudice and discrimination
for the first time and felt disillusioned and angry when they encountered

racial hostility or disrespect.

... never could unnerstand that chit.

War is to the psych of a nation

as standing in a downpour is

for the common cold.

"The Matsunaga Study's key finding

is that exposure to war zone stress and other military danger
places veterans at risk for PTSD several decades after
military service.

Native Hawaiian and American Indian Vietnam in-country veterans
had relatively high levels of exposure to war zone stress and
high levels of PTSD.

Caucasian and Japanese American veterans tended to have
somewhat lower levels of exposure to war zone stress and later
PTSD."



http://www.ncptsd.va.gov/facts/veterans/fs_hawaiian_vets.html

FA, you mean you don't look for pennies, watch
you don't step on cracks in the sidewalk
or avoid the glare of eyes that dare to look
at you, closely?

Trader, am a bit thick, sometimes, could you
please explain your post to me?

Just don't unnerstand how you
found agreement in there?

Could you possibly just give me one specific
bit of evidence that could sway a jury of
rested, reasonable and responsible citizens?

struth, over the last 50+ years I have really attempted to come to grips
with the Christian belief, but, the idea that a human female can become
with child on a spiritual breath and that a human being can walk on water,
in the liquid state has ever stumped me.

Since your common sense is a result of your nature, nurture, enviornment,
education and interests and I'd assume is in agreement with many revered
and special human beings, including Jesus, is it logical and reasonable to believe
that the few words in the Bible attributed to Jesus come from his enviornment,
education and reading rather than from out of the sky?

Which seems most likely on the balance of probability, as we
know it?

Or, are all those considerations just bound up in the
"leap of faith", which some talk about?

Dispirited, angry US electorate going to the polls

"US voters go to the polls in congressional elections next month divided between dispirited
backers of President George W. Bush's Republican Party and Democrats eager to register their anger.

"(Americans) are unhappy about lots of things," said Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia's
Center for Politics. "They believe the country is on the wrong track."

...Republicans are bracing for a potential election night disaster on November 7, when 435 seats
in the House of Representatives and one-third of the 100 seats in the Senate are at stake.

"When you talk to Republican pollsters and strategists, the nicest word you can come up
with is 'despondent,'" ... Charlie Cook. "This is going to be really bad."

...Iraq conflict is the number one issue ...

Voters had assumed that Iraq would be a shorter commitment that would cost a fraction of the hundreds
of billion of dollars spent so far and claim far fewer Iraqi and US lives, analysts said.

"Since 2004, we've become much more pessimistic about Iraq," said Sabato. "We can't see the light
at the end of the tunnel. It's hard to see the tunnel it's so dark."

.. no longer just liberal Democrats railing against the war: A poll by the Pew Research Center
found that Americans who think the war is going well fell from 47 percent in September
to 37 percent in October, with the biggest drop among conservative Republicans,
independents and conservative-to-moderate Democrats. ...

But political observers say Iraq is just one of many factors. "Part of it is Iraq,
part of it is gas prices, part of it is that wages aren't keeping up with productivity,", said Sabato.

...Pew Institute ... Women threw their support behind Bush after the September 11, 2001
attacks on the United States but they are leaning Democrat now by a margin of 55 percent
to 34 percent.

In another recent Pew poll, only 49 percent of conservative Christians said they believe
the Republican Party is favorable to religion, a drop of 14 points in one year.

... continuing parade of scandals that have mostly affected Republicans and led to the departure
of three powerful Republican congressmen including former House Majority leader Tom DeLay of Texas.

... also ... a sex scandal involving a veteran Republican lawmaker and his sexually
explicit messages to teenage boys.

All of this amounts to an uphill slog for Republicans seeking to hold onto power, especially
in the House, where most polls show the Democrats well-positioned to win, even if not
on the merits of their own accomplishments.

Republicans have narrowly controlled the House since 1994 and have kept a tight grip on the Senate
for most of Bush's presidency.

But the opposition party is now within striking distance of winning back the House and possibly
even the Senate. Democrats need a net gain of 15 seats to wrest control of the House and a six-seat
gain to take over the Senate.

Turnout is expected to be high for a mid-term election and Democratic voters appear
to be particularly motivated after six years of a Bush presidency.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061025/pl_afp/usvoteelectorate_061025172009

Thanks for asking for the song,

have always loved Celine Dior.

cheers

...am gone.

"The troops have figured out that they are not there for the reason stated by the President -

93% recognize they are not there to remove weapons of mass destruction.

The vast majority (76%) also do not believe that the United States is establishing
a democracy that can be a model for the Arab world. But they do not accept
that securing oil was the major purpose - only 11% accept that rationale.

Sadly, the Pentagon dismissed the findings saying "It shouldn't surprise
anybody that a deployed soldier would rather be at home than deployed."

And, "I don't think anybody is getting alarmed over any one
poll."

The message they are sending to the soldiers is that their commanders
are not listening to the troops on the ground."

WHICH IS A MESSAGE WHEICH THEY REALLY DO NOT
NEED TO SEND AS IT HAS BEEN OBVIOUS FOR A TIME.

Brainless, just don't figure you.

Yes, I did go to the dictionary to check the meaning, as I told you and do it
a lot just to check whether or not my understanding of a word is correct,
and I made that clear.

IN LIGHT OF MY EARLIER POST, A PORTION OF WHICH IS BELOW ...

In reply to: brainlessone who wrote msg# 215678 Date:10/24/2006 3:30:26 AM
Post #of 216530

Assume you speaking of Kafir, just noticed that it is also spelt with one "f",
sorry about that, but, wonder why such a fuss? Just went to the dictionary
to check the the meaning of the word kafir and saw it in bold with 2 ff's
and in my rush missed the little one, at the end with one"f".

IT IS BEYOND ME WHY YOU WOULD ASK ...

Posted by: brainlessone
In reply to: fuagf who wrote msg# 216476 Date: 10/26/2006 10:46:01 AM
Post #

but fuagf, did you not know what kuffir meant?

YES, BRAIN AS I SAID TO YOU I HAD AN IDEA WHAT IT MEANT, BUT, WAS
NOT SURE OF THE EXACT MEANING ... I TOLD YOU ALREADY ...

WHY ASK AGAIN??? ... BRAIN, I AM NOT HAVING A GO AT YOU FOR ANYTHING A
ND HAVEN'T ANYWHERE IN THE STREAM ...ALL I DID WAS CHECK WITH YOU ABOUT
THE SPELLING ..
AND STILL NOT SURE IF THE SINGULAR "F", FORM ONLY REFERS TO THE
DEFINITION OF "KAFIR" AS IT PERTAINS TO CORN ...

no Stewie, no need to say it!

"what purpose was there to llookk it up in the dictionary"

MAYDAY MATDAY MAYDAY ...BRAIN I REPEAT AD NAUSEUM ...

I CHECKED THE MEANING BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE OF THE MEANING.

I CHECKED THE MEANING BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE OF THE MEANING.

I CHECKED THE MEANING BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE OF THE MEANING.

Now, can we move on?

I checked the spelling with you, in the spirit of a cooperative
attempt to get it right.

I was not having a go at you.

Maybe I made a mistake assuming that you knew what it meant.

Please, when you used the word initially did you or did you not know
the meaning? I WAS NOT SURE AND INITIALLY TOLD YOU THAT.

Just yes or no, did you always know the meaning?

Just yes or no, please??? or just change the subject or just
remain silent.

lovely sounds filled the sky
exhorting all of us to fly
to cherish the moments
that we taste
for sure it is a shame
to waste.

Nite, all thankyou,
'twas lov a lee.

I didn't bloody "object" just simply told you what I saw in the dictionary
and that should have been the bloody end of it.

Why didn' t you just say something like ...oh not sure how to spell it,
or whatever, instead of the dribble you came out with?

Seriously, just why won't you answer the simplest and innocuous of questions?
me do every oneeeeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Ask just about anybody else a question and you get an answer;
it's polite conversation or debate, just common courtesy.

Where are you from?
me downunder.

Do you think there are any innocent kaffir children?
me answered earlier when you asked me, something like, yes, all
children are innocents.

That's 3 simple ones. Goodnight, lamb griller, spinach, butter beans, peas and bed.

"Woodward, ... wrote in his book that on July 10, 2001, Tenet briefed Rice
about a looming attack against the US by al-Qaeda

-- which according to Woodward was the first known instance that
an administration official was provided with specific details about
the terrorist organization's intentions.

Woodward wrote that Rice did not take Tenet's July briefing seriously
when Tenet and Cofer Black, then the CIA's chief of
counterterrorism, met with her at the White House.

... Woodward added that Tenet and Black considered the briefing
the "starkest warning they had given the White House" on the threat
posed by Osama bin Laden's terrorist network.

But,
Woodward wrote, Tenet and (Cofer Black ...my add)believed Rice
gave them "the brush-off."

... and so it was, how can the American reelect these people ... I know, at the ballot box and we know that is another story.

Atta girl, keep punching.

"For, now just go with the 3rd paragraph.

Now, no fighting, ok?"

Just assumed you knew what kaffir
meant, tha's all.

Later, maybe, late, again.

So on it goes ...

"you start these games and continue them."

..attach blame to other.

"it all stems from your original post."

.. don't remember how, but, will surely

"go back and read it." and will, to quote an old, suppose, favourite of yours, return.

I would never consider intentionally initiating the tone of the dick games
you play, but it is possible that you misinterpreted my sense of humour which
certainly differs greatly from yours, dunno, will check.

"games like which post? this post or that post?.", that's your kind of chit.

Don't understand why you said

"if you arent sure, read all your posts in the thread and see what you did."

as why should I read all my posts if I am fully aware of the general tone and feeling
of the thread and after all, your direction

"it all stems from your original post."

is very clear so I understood it even if you would pretend
that you didn't were our positions reversed.

Before I go back I'll bet you that we will have to agree to disagree on who started
whatever it is you want to call what was happening, but guessing you will never
be happy, as, you just some sort of head hunter and narky as shit, to boost.

Damn, chops will be overdone by now.

Ouch, glad it ain't boiling, sheezzz just remembered meat
downstairs on the table all night and Elsa who has been
sleeping up here just went down!!!!!

Apologies to you, tic and to the board for f'ing up the last and sorry, but, just could not leave is such a bungled emaciated condition ... hope this clarifies things, even stuffed th jocular bit. Fingers crossed.

tic, see you got another one, PaulF … getting lighter here now.

Have passed another night doing my little bit for our children and their's, 2 ... this is a copy of an email, just sent, is a bit unoorthodox, but, oh well, what the hecko

There an old Miss Marpole, I think, on tv, now, it's a hooteroo oo ...

Excuse the more personal stuff, but, just felt like leaving it in.

"... it is with an ever increasingly heavy heart I forward you things like this video which I was given in Investors Hub and please trust that it is done with the sincerest of motives ... on a different subject, but, consistent with the view that sometimes we have a responsibility as citizens of our world to speak out if only by disseminating information, David Suzuki, on on our ABC, at the moment, it is 3:44am, and has just afforded Australia the same "international outlaw" status as the U.S. in that they refuse to sign the, was it '92, Kyoto Agreement.

He has just used a words similar to ones I have used for many years as assume, he has use his also; he just said.”think of your children and your grandchildren", think that is what he said. I tend to use "of your children and your children's grand children, we probably should go to an infinity of greats.

He had reminded us ... oh, he doesn't trust the best press any more than many of us ... surprise ...

As an aside, in a year 12 class, yesterday, we drifted from maths, as is a tendency in relaxed times and, today, a AHAHAHA HE JUST SAID WHAT IS AUSTRALIA DOING FARMING RICE AND WHEAT ... we have macadamia nuts and apparently let France take all the credit for them ... ummm .. always something new.

Anyway the student said "what is the difference between a fat white woman and a fat black women", think a rapper said it, we were talking about music ... his answer was something like, the fat white woman stays home all day while the fat black woman goes out to play … not bad, I thought, comment on culture.

… oh, speaking of Canada now .. do we want fresh air, clean water? ... everybody says yes, so now a target and are working together .. he mentions "Documents of Sustainability Over A Generation” ...by 2030 "Sustainability Within A Generation" ...Nov., Dec last year to Harvard where they made an American document from their doc. and working to try to get an Australian document complete.

He mentioned a Bobby Kennedy book of Bush’s international rejections transgressions .. missed the title. l about giving as big a green light to industry to despoil earth's air and water which our great grand children’s grand children’s will have to cope with .... heh, perhaps we evolve to have electronic air conditioners implanted in place of out lungs which would be no longer able to cope with the air of the future.

Enough, eh, Stewie? Yup, you are raving again. Yeah, but, there is just so much to share. I know, it's tough, but, fun, eh? Always, in chorus Who, Will, Sid, Alphonso, Stewie and I, which includes all of us and more. cheers.

Received this in response to my stating I wasn't sure about possible vote rigging in U.S. elections, awfulstuff to hear ... and worse to contemplate.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8112825559202389150

ps, just deleted heaps of your email addresses, by error in my new, but, bloody confusing Yahoo7 mail bux, well that's what it feels like and using this to reinsert ones deleted.

pss, not light yet, yet, not long to it ... for awhile, again, until plunged mercifully into darkness, again."

Ha, join the maddening madererer crowd my electronics abound
with the lost and, thankfully, some found ..

.. had this on hold, is not quite fitting the occasion, but, there is a slight sense
of sadness, albeit fleeting to be sure ... this lady and those like her, at times,
have more ... hour ya goin', Sambo?

Pounce, like the cheetah I didn't see in your African cam which for bloody half an hour
looked like an Aussi billabong, except most of ours are dry and government aid to farmers
is somewhere around 2.5 billion, not sure how much is going to the wealthy, but, would guess a bit ...

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11214926

retired, there are those who will, at least moan within
and consider admonishment I will just hope with you
and wtjf@cgfnut,asm.

tic, see you got another one, PaulF, getting lighter here now.

Have passed another night doing my little bit for our children and their's, 2 ... this is a copy of an email, fust sent, is a bit unoorthodox, but, oh well, what the hecko ...

There an old Miss Marpole, I think, on tv, now, it's a hooteroo oo ...

Excuse the more personal stuff, but, just felt like leaving it in.




Have passed another night doing my little bit for our children and thier's, also,2 ... this is a copy of an email, fust sent, is a bit unoorthodox, but, oh well.

There an old Miss Marpole, I think, on tv now, it's a hooteroo oo ...

Excuse the more personal stuff, but, just felt like leaving it in.

"... it is with an ever increasingly heavy heart I forward you things like this video which I was given in Investors Hub and please trust that it is done with the sincerest of motives ... on a different subject, but, consistent with the view that sometimes we have a responsibility as citizens of our world to speak out if only by disseminating information, David Suzuki, on on our ABC, at the moment, it is 3:44am, and has just afforded Australia the same "international outlaw" status as the U.S. in that they refuse to sign the, was it '92, Kyoto Agreement.

He has just used a words similar to ones I have used for many years as assume, he has use his also; he just said ."think of your children and your grandchildren", think that is what he said. I tend to use "of your children and your children's grand children, we probably should go to an infinity of greats.

He had reminde us ... oh, he doesn't trust the best press any more than many of us ... surprise ...

Kind of like teacking a class ... on that note in a year 12 class today we drifted maths as is a tendency in relaxed times and, today, a AHAHAHA HE JUST SAID WHAT IS AUSTRALIA DOING FARMING RICE AND WHEAT ... we have macadamia nuts and apparently let France take all the credit for them ... ummm .. always something new.

Anyway the student said "what is the difference between a fat woman and a fat black women", think a rapper said it, we were talking about music ...oh, speaking of Canada now .. do we want fresh air, clean water ... everybody says yes, so now a target and are working together "Documents of Sustainability Over A Generation ...by 2030 "Sustainability Within A Generation" ...Nov. Dec last year and made an American document form their doc and working to try to get an Australian document from a student asked me what the difference ... Bobby Kennedy book of Bush’s transgression .. missed the title. It's all about giving as big a green light to industry to despoil earth's air and water which our great great, great grand children will have to cope with .... heh, perhaps we evolve to have electronic air conditioners implanted in place of out lungs which would be no longer able to cope with the air of the future.

Enough, eh, Stewie? Yup, you raving again. Yeah, but, there is just so much to share. I know, it's tough, but, fun, eh? Always, in chorus Who, Will, Sid, Alphonso, Stewie and I, which includes all of us and more. cheers.

Received this in response to my stating I wasn't sure about possible vote rigging in U.S. elections, awfulstuff to hear ... and worse to contemplate.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8112825559202389150

ps, just deleted heaps of your email addresses, by error in my new, but, bloody confusing Yahoo7 mail bax, well that's what it feels like and using this to reinsert ones deleted.

pss, not light yet, yet, not long to it ... for awhile, again, until plunged mercifully into darkness, again."

ha ha william2112, won't be happy, retired.

how're things and tell me when is da bus going to break the 41 barrier, again?

getting lighter here, kinda in front of you and behind you at the same time.

feel like some music, hope nobody minds ... let's see

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?
message_id=12997135

and all, try not to use your air conditioners and heaters any more
than you have to, all in a good cause for our great great, great,
grand children's children.

Won't bother to Google that's good enough for me and it just goes to show, with some people, you don't even have to ask simple questions to gain information and so more to consider in your quest for some sort of fuzzy enlightenment.
enlightenment

Have in the past expressed my impression that the U.S., just may be somewhat in danger of becoming something akin to a military dictatorship which is really a terrible, sad thought, but, seems closer to reality than many would even dare to contemplate. It is very difficult for most to give up long held faith in a perceived father-protector. I sympathise with those who have to struggle with that, but, WHEN THE SECURITY AND WELLBEING OF YOUR CHILDREN'S GRAND CHILDREN ARE AT RISK I THINK AMERICAN'S WE ALL REALLY HAVE TO DO SOME HEAVY SOUL SEARCHING.

WILL FORWARD YOUR VIDEO TO MANY, INCLUDING MY POOR FAMILY WHO FOR SOME FUNNY, INEXPLICABLE REASON THINK I'M A BIT WHACKO AND CARRIED AWAY BY CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

Oh well, guess we are all a bit deluded and is dead dark here, now at 2:03 am., just a bit ahead of you guys, into the future. That's dumb as we are all in the same moment, just differentiated by a human construct of time.

Man, put together all you guys are formidable opponents to those who want to join the ostriches with sand in their eyes and hate and inhumanity in thier pumps.

Really should go to bed, but, almost getting to late for that, shhhhhhhhhheezz, done this too much lately and swore I would get work more rest. Not sure which is best for the head.

Observed to a friend from Vietnam some years ago that there was more communism in Australia than there was in "communist", Vietnam and that it was terribly ironic that we and other "developed" nations were able to express our largesse to some of our citizens just because we have gained our wealth partly out of exploitation of both natural and human resources of poorer, so called 3rd world countries.

tic, as I was typing the baaloney bit the thought that you just expressed grew increasingly
in my mind and as I clicked the reply I 99% knew that my attempts to place you exactly
where you are were correct. I think it was you who posted the stuff I read before about the lack
of a paper trail, etc.

Thanks for the post, it was a good one and the stuff on Ohio, Florida and, think, Indiana
was, just, a bit more scarifying in the sense that it further wounded the sensibilities.

According to my dictionary ...

Kaffir .. it is capitalized ...

1. (derog.) a member of a South African Negroid race (knew it was from that used to be den of idiotic
racial and religious hatred and abuse, just had to check it out definitely) inhabiting parts
of the Cape of Good Hope, natal, etc.

2. (derog.) any South African negro.

3. a Bantu language.

4. (l.c.) ...don't know what that means .. Also, kaffir corn any of certain grain sorghums, varieties
of Sorghum biclor, with stour, short-jointed,, leafy stalks, cultivated in South Africa. Also Kafir.
[Ar. kafir .. with dot over the "a" .. unbeliever]

maybe, the single f is only good for the the corn, dunno.

We knew the guy was a racist and am guessing we know more about him now ...
reeks of old time, in a rut Afrikaaner, but, may be wrong.

He may clarify it for us, but, doubt it. Too bad.

"That oration kindled broad astonishment at the psychotic fixity of its key thesis: i.e., that U.S. troops are in Iraq to halt the spread of global terror (and not themselves a major stimulus thereto, as Bush's own intel establishment has bluntly noted).

That line has been disdained not only by the media but also by the GOP's top pundits and Congressional candidates, more and more of whom, the New York Times reported on September 3, "are disregarding Mr. Rove's advice.""

I TEND TO BELIEVE THAT THAT LINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN DISDAINED PRIVATELY BY THOSE THAT HAVE PROMULGATED IT.

Have never believed that Bush and his boys and, yeah, the odd female could not have foreseen the opposition which they say they did not expect to face and which they are are up against now, as it would have been glaringly obvious to any legit observer. They have Angola, Afghanistan and Vietnam in their intellectual histories and they know their opposition well as they have worked closely with many of them, in the past.

Am becoming convinced that the plan was always to break Iraq up and undo the Iraq which as formed in the birth of that
so called sovereign nation.

will read that, also, as have quite a lot on the subject before,
maybe your posts about no trace, ease of erasing records
and fixing ballots?

Don't really know if that is true or not, but nothing would surprise me,
any more, except Georgie Boy firing the Ch and da Rummy one.

The stench of the present danger boys, all about, is woeful.

I'll read your 3 pages ...

you tell me exactly what I said was baaloney,
that seems fair ...

Not October sunrise, but,

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12377889

if he just got scared enough, but, guess maybe he even as President
is not strong, enough.

The bastards, just knew they were planning to break Iraq into three,
the old divide and conquer is alive and well.

If successful some puppets may just get caught up in the strings,
in the future.

Wonder whatever happened to Chalibi that fraudster they smuggled out of Lebanon
in the boot of a car and who is quoted as saying that he would never be interested
in being in government in Iraq. Is he still in charge of the oil ministry I wonder?
Easy to find out if nobody knows and will be shortly onto it if nobody beats me to it.