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i'm not telling anyone what to do with their shares, i don't own them, i am just saying i spend alot of time reading charts, looking for patterns in charts and am fairly good at it, am i always right, no way, i'd be retired if i was always right, i compared the two spikes and the techs for hours and saw that pattern, i already had looked at the old short data many times before the last spike, there were just too many consistencies in the candles and the short data to just ignore that data, that old short PR with the .13 cent trigger is no longer valid, those shorts covered long before the last spike, this is a new crop of shorts now, plus the bollingers are way wide open and won't support a new large run unless an incredible news release comes out, and i'm still sticking with a new short run tomorrow, same as first run, there are some killer stocks out there that release phenominal PR after phenominal PR and their pps just keeps going down because the short position is just that large, unfortunately, i can't find recent short data on WWEN so i am basing everything on prior performance
as to your large pos, you are certainly in a dilemma if you want to sell them all, yes that will create downward pressure, but you might consider flipping some if the opportunity arises, you need to think about this also, if the price is flying and and your sitting on such a large position you should start thinking about selling long before the buying tops out, if you don't time it right the way this stock moves it could drop .30 - .40 before half your shares are sold, a good startegy to have is to have your sells set before hand, like when it hits this pps i will sell this many and so on, unless of course you are in for the long haul and if thats the case, i wouldn't even be reading this board, i would put my sell in for 10.00 and go on about my business, if your holding 1 mil(guess) shares there's nothing wrong with trying to flip 250,000, thats how people get mega rich, do that 4 times and now you have 2mil and maybe extra cash in the bank, if the mm's are going to play it why not you
that may be true, but it has been my experience that companies do not release ground breaking news during an interview, the are best contained in a PR, all investors will not be listening to that interview so it is a bigger but limited audience, look for the same info that he talked about in th mn1 interview, it is just for exposure not ground breaking info, he will rehash older PR's like last interview and talk about the technolgy
if thats the case then when we have a small spike in pps, no news and the techs don't really support another huge run it would be much better off if some people wouldn't promise the moon, because the next day when it goes down alot of potentially new longs will be very upset, think it's a scam, totally played and manipulated, even by people on this board, and then look to get out with as least pain as possible, it's the nature of the pinks, pumping only creates false hopes and pissed of potentially new longs, honesty on the other hand will produce those new longs
the mm's and shorts do not care about strong hands and longs, they want your money and thats it, there are ways they can manipulate the pps without you selling your shares, they can flip them between each other thereby keeping the same amount of shares but slowly bringing the price down, some investors have there limit and good investors sell their shares when their losses approach 8% to 10% so they don't incur major losses, the mm's and shorts know all about this thats why they apply the pressure and when poeple crack, even the strongest of longs, they crack and thats also that, most longs on a stock of this nature are long because they bought way to high and let it run down way to low and they are long because if they sell they have lost, they are forced to be long or lose, all i'm saying is we can't control it so play with or lose money
good luck jabber got to run for now
P.S - the pps took off this morning, why didn't that momentum keep the pps going up with more panic buying?, because the drop was planned way ahead of today jabber
midas
actually what i am doing is trying to keep our money in our hands, you just don't get it yet, the mm's have all the control, the pps was going down and it was planned long before yesterday, the upward movement at the end of the day was planned to take in more money from people buying in the AM, if we don't inform the new money of what is going on and they continue to get taken then we will never ever get more longs in this stock, and the constant pumping of this stock only to see the price go down due to the mm's when we know it's the mm's and shorts is not helping to attract any new longs, we need to stop living in dreamland and wake up to the facts, the stock is being played again and everyone should know this, honesty is the best policy in the LONG run, all pun intended
GL jabber
to the WWEN board,
bethoven, brahms, mendelsohn, none of them are near as good the virtuosos playing this stock !!!
what color is that candle i see today, looks like it's a lot more shades darker than all the pumpers said it would be, when are we going to learn we have no control here over what is going on with this stock, we can post all the ceo information we want to death but when the mm's say down, down it goes, they sucked in a little more at the open just like i said and then bam down it went, the pattern i described yesterday is there for all to see, the candles for the two spikes are nearly identical, i'm sorry to say this but i see a blood bath for tomorrow, just look at the candle of the first spike for may 23, i'm not going to fluff this for anyone, could i be wrong, yes i could, just be ready with your finger on that button if you want to keep any profit you may have, i'll say it again, no REAL news has come out, doesn't matter if Mclaren is speaking to the president of the united states, if ths shorts and mm's want this to come down it will, no matter what, the only way to beat them and to stop them is to play their game, when they see that no one is falling for their game anymore they will stop, there will be no more profit for them to take, it's your money and i won't tell you what to do with it, you are responsible, so play the game responsibly, it is also the responsiblity of this board to let new and old investors know what is going on here, if new investors keep getting suckered by the mm's and shorts how are we going to produce more longs, wake up people please!
GLTA the REAL investors on this board
midas
it's all good bro, i still have my shares so i hope your right, just don't be surprised if that candle is a little darker than you think, also i'd keep my finger close to the button, might be a good op to double your shares in the next two days, the mm's traded some shares, the pps moved up investors joined in to move it further, ceo even stated that short selling was a problem again right, do you think they are going to settle for .088, do you think it was a coincidence that todays spread was .057 and the may 19 white candle was .055, 10 days apart each, to much of a pattern, we'll see
GL have my sell already programed into the phone for easy access if needed
yeah those were good replys by you and fringe, no problem not stirring the pot and i hope i'm wrong about the next two days
no brikk, really just my honest opinion, i would like nothing more for WWEN to go to the moon myself, but i do believe it is more manipulation and if their going to play it like that so am i, i am an honest investor and just don't like the way the market is set in their favor, but thats life so we gotta play their game eh
midas
i believe i have all the techs right and the pattern is almost confirmed, black candle tomorrow and major sell off thurs, this is a warning to all REAL investors of this stock, it is being manipulated once more by the MM's and by supposed longs on this board, nothing has changed and no REAL news has come out, compare the 10th candles after the end of the spikes, one is todays, both white and tops of both sitting right under the 15day SMA, look for a black candle tomorrow just like the 11th on the last spike, look for a major shorting rally thurs just like on the 12th day of last spike, don't believe me look at the PR about the last shorting, with the .13 trigger price, just look at mays shorting 3,500,000 @ .17, all of it during the 12th candle last spike, they have sucked in new money, they will suck in more in the AM, close the day down and sell off on thurs, i'm not telling anyone to sell, just protect your money if this starts to happen, they are flipping, taking profit and accumulating free shares with your money if you are left holding the bag, i am 90% sure i will be flipping mine, i can play the game and so can you
GLTA the REAL investors
midas
i agree with whomever said support is at .07, actually i have it at .075, and unfortunately thats were we are going unless incredible news comes out, look for .075 tomorrow or the next, macd has just rolled over, sorry fellas without news she's going down
just to clarify some of the information posted by joe burmiester, hence i followed his link to sedar and would like to CORRECT some misleading information posted by joe, regarding michael mclaren it does not say 20 yrs experience in plastics, it states
Mr. Mclaren has worked in the automation and robotics industry for 20 yrs. His experience has allowed him to increase his skills as a results oriented executive with strong customer relations experience with variuos companies.
thats what it says, to have 20 yrs experience in robotics i'm sure would need some form of education in physics although it does not state that, so we have misinformation #1 by joe
i have read all the available financial information for world wise and those statements pose quite a different picture than joes picture of a ceo who ran the company into the ground in a year, the financial statments say they were incurring losses long before Mclaren stepped in as CEO, no where does any of the reports state that Mclaren even came from Acutec plastics limited in the acquisition, so there we have misinformation by joe on all of his information, nice try though joe, although some of us are still worried about other information that will need to be clarified, until such time be leary of the bashers they are starting to come out of the wood work, WHY?
my apologies to all on the board who had to read thru all the crap to find the good information here yesterday, certain people have been put on ignore and that is the end of the matter, i will continue to delve deeper in the matters at hand and will let all know what the outcome is
midas
yes obp it is interesting the different perspectives that unfold as a stock moves on, and yes i have many questions that need to be answered, and yes i am concerned about the validity of information being passed around but as you can see i have done major DD on the company and have yet to form an opinion either way, i am just along for the ride with the shares i have now until this information and the questions can be answered, until then i won't buy more and i won't sell any, i believe i have told you this before, i am concerned that the pps is steadily moving down, compare the pps now and all the other techs compared to the first spike and we are doing 100% better then last time, also i am in at .06 so being still green has alot to do with being optimistic, if i were down 50% i would definately be searching for all the answers as you and several others are now, like here's something you have probably never seen before either
http://www.otcreporter.com/ReportDetails.asp?RptId=35&col=Projects
it is a paid promotion the company recieved 250,000 tradable WWEN shares by a third party, the company claims to still hold the shares and others in the company may have bought more and are still holding, the problem is it's not dated so i don't know if they still hold those shares, i don't post trivial stuff on WWEN, if it has bearing i will post it
i am not bashing anyone on this stock but if you didn't know about the rotary engine then you have not done your DD very well, hence here is the information you should have known about prior to the recent announcement
it is dated mar 22, 2005, well over a year ago
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage2291.html
this is the last time i will post to you americano, because i hate to offend people but it seems it's the only way to get through to you, i commend you firsthand for standing by your convictions but the info you post does not mention WWEN so it nothing to do with W2 if there is no W2, which is a distinct possibility and which is something you just cannot seem to comprehend, and pls don't start with "well i spoke to blah blah blah at the company and he said" as i already told you twice and now a third time, i have a bridge in brooklyn for sale, it has revenue of 1.7 bil a year in tolls and i will sell it to you for .115 cents, deal!!!, useful information americano, useful
americano, why do you continue to post the most useless information when someone asks important questions, we all know the need for this type of technology, what we are concerned with is W2 the company that can provide it
that is not very sound reasoning for investing in a stock, for one and repeat after me, the oil companies will do everything in their power to squash a stock like this if it ever becomes that big, there is alot of oil left in this old world and they will continue to pump it out for the next hundred years or so if they can, if you are thinking the oil comanies are going to invest big in this then sell it now cause it ain't gonna happen in your lifetime, if you want to think bi investment and i mentioned this before, governments around the globe arte going to have to say "WWEN here's 10 bil, build me some plants"
hey bold, i'm not against you on this, i too have questions, but it doesn't help yourself to jump to any conclusions before the questions have been answered, lesson #2 i learned in investing, leave your emotions for a stock out of it, there is no place in investing for emotions, relax a little, take a deap breath and keep working
that link is for a company called world wise which is now W2 Energy, it's called DD americano, did you do any before buying
what did you do cut and paste it my post of about three posts ago
last note before you leave, no amount of information i have given proves they are legitimate, and believe me when i tell you i have alot of unanswered questions too, but slowly some of them are being answered as i dig further, i am about as skeptical an investor as you will find which is why i do an extraordinary amount of DD, when investing no question is a bad question, if you seriously have questions that are unanswered you have three options, sell and get out, continue to dig for those answers yourself, believe me it is not enough to rely on answers from others unless they are related to you by blood and the third option is to relax and let it ride and sell on the next spike, it will have a next spike, you just seem very uncomfortable in this investment, and uncomfortablity is not an option for an investor, it leads to ulcers, migraines and in a select few even death by either physical reasons or mental reasons, time for you to decide where your personal comfort level is, if you are in big and at 50% loss and feel you have to stay in to make your money back but are worried it will drop further then maybe it's time for you to choose, your health or the money
srry thats 1 and 2, read 1 carefully
1) Development and marketing application specific technology for maximizing productivity, energy savings and cost efficiency. 2) Design, integration and marketing of Robotics and Advanced Computing products. 3) On-line tool for problem solving for engineers, plant managers, business persons and entrepreneurs.
it does not say 'developement and marketing applications specific to', it says ''developement and marketing ""application specific technology"" for maximizing productivity, energy savings and cost efficiency'
sounds like a gat reactor to me
cmon bold, i am way ahead of you on this, noone here has probably done more DD than me, not calling you a liar,
http://infoventure.tsx.com/TSXVenture/TSXVentureHttpController?GetPage=CompanySummary&PO_ID=1062...
read the description of what they did, better here it is
1) Development and marketing application specific technology for maximizing productivity, energy savings and cost efficiency. 2) Design, integration and marketing of Robotics and Advanced Computing products. 3) On-line tool for problem solving for engineers, plant managers, business persons and entrepreneurs.
pay attention to # 2
don't make such a big deal, these are not new developements and nothing has been proven or not proven, perhaps the other person is really a basher or maybe he made a mistake and went to the wrong address
i am fully aware of that but i don't believe you are correct about computer systems as their business
http://press.arrivenet.com/business/article.php/284227.html
World Wise Technologies Announces Corporate Update
Distribution Source : CCNMatthews
Date : Wednesday, April 07, 2004
NEW YORK, NEW YORK--(CCNMatthews - Apr 7, 2004) - World Wise Technologies (WWISF.PK), owner of several patented technologies and provider of green energy, announced this day that it will begin the application process to list the company's common shares on the OTC-BB. As part of this process, the company is preparing to meet eligibility criteria as required by the Exchange including meeting audit requirements as verified by an SEC sanctioned accountant. The company's stock has been trading as a pink sheet stock (symbol: wwisf.pk) since 2001.
"By beginning the process to list World Wise' shares on the Bulletin Board, we're closing in on achieving an important step in integrating companies with complimentary achievements in the Energy sector, " Mike McLaren, chief executive officer commented on the news. "...this listing will enable the company to structure offers that will attract important players in our sector."
Also as a part of meeting the Exchange's requirement, the company has announced plans to open U.S. based offices within the coming months.
Mr. McLaren stated, "The Corporation has for the last year been re-organizing and preparing the launch of its power generation technologies". He added, " We are confident that the corporation is in a strategic position at this time to execute on its plan and complete a series of financial placements to achieve its goals".
Mr. McLaren further commented, "I wish to thank all involved for their devotion to this corporation, especially those who have dedicated their time and money to achieve the goals we set forth and ultimately create a platform we can build upon".
thats actually old news bold, it was in a press release some time back, i have read all press releases, have they started that plant i don't know that either, let me see what i can dig up
ok, then i will share with you what i know which maybe old news or new news to you all,
here's the deal if you are any good at DD, and i am, now i don't know the significance of this but here it is, this is news to me and i found it by digging in further when this guy said he went to that address,
W2 Energy is actually Ashwood Capital, or Ashwood Capitol is W2 Energy, a search on 26 Densley Avenue,
North York, ON M6M 2R1 has turned up this, so now call up canada directory assistance and see if this company is listed
http://www.yellowpages.ca/searchBusiness.do?what=&srchtype=business&street=26+densley+ave&am...
Ashwood Capital
416-246-1100
26 Densley Avenue,
North York, ON M6M 2R1
note the phone number, same as listed for W2 Energy, a search on Ashwood Capital has turned up this
http://www.v-capital.com.au/vcdirectory/2vcf_content.cfm?id_vcfirm=VC421CA07ASHWOO78
notice the presidents name, Charles Litman, same as some of the other businesses posted on the address search, i called each one and got answering machines for all, but this is saturday so it stands to reason none might be there, as you can see Ashwood has investors invested in 8 projects, is W2 one of them i would have to say yes do i know for sure no, does this confirm that there are actual tenets at 26 densley no it does not, it might confirm how W2 is able to operate without any cash flow, having an investment capital company in your back pocket sure wouldn't hurt, if you are around, fringe, maybe you can ask them about Ashwood Capitol, What's there relationship to W2, are they acquiring operating capital for W2 from private investors etc. etc., there is also another company called Ashwood Capital in NYC,
http://www.kellysearch.com/us-company-900563514.html
a call to that office returned a no longer in service message, are the two comanies related, i don't know but would pose another good question for the W2 interview, i am going to call Ashwood Capital on monday and see what ican find out and what information they can release, but it seems calling Ashwood Capital is the same as calling W2 as the numbers are the same, i called today and the message i got was, thank you for calling Ashwood Capital, etc, etc
i don't know if it is good or bad yet i haven't been able to confirm anything one way or another
i will have answers for those questions on monday, i have found out some things that i will not talk about until monday after i have confirmed it all, Patience,
the only problem is what is the bottom this time around, so far we have held .125 like i thought, the 6 mos daily shows we have lost some A/D but nothing like the last spike, what i like even more is on the 10 day, on the 10 day which is probably a little more accurate than the 6 mos daily in this instance is we have lost almost no A/D, first two days after the skike we had some distribution but the 10 day daily shows minor accum since then, we really need a good day tomorrow, a close over .14 will be very good on the weekly chart, it will give us three positive weeks in a row and keep the expansion moving forward, opinions please
i have a better idea, lets call warren buffet and see if he uses charts, i would be willing to put up everything i own that the answer is yes, seriously you must be kidding with this right, no good trader/investor trades without charts which means....
dr bill, i have been pretty successful since i started trading/investing and without my charts i'd probably be in the red, i have saved countless pennies, which translate into dollars due to chart reading, maybe you should learn to read them better, all i have to say to you is....good luck
this is what i think is going on, it's obviously my opinion but i think some of you will agree, those shares were issued monday, monday was an up day, they are pushing the price down and now two days in a row a large purchase right before the bell, someone wants those shares cheap and they are being accomodated, as soon as those shares are gone we will start to move up steadly, i'm not right all the time never said i was, but we did start to move in the AM, then they started pushing it down again so this some one can get those shares, the good news is they can't seem to push it down hard as in the past which means as they are trying to push it down investors are propping it back up, the fact that those big EOD trades are going through between .125 to .15 is an indicator that a good base is forming here, everyday price volume indicator is increasing in this range, before the spike there was almost no money in this range, i think the pps stays here till those shares are gone and then it's back up
hey OBP, charts are unpredictable but i wouldn't even contemplate a trade without them, they are invaluable and tell you if money is going into the stock or coming out and numerous other things, the pattern was there and if i get this right they issued 3mil more shares monday, no wonder we are not steadily moving up, looks like some peopls want those shares at a good price, we started to move on the open like i thought but then we stalled, i believe once those shares are dried up we will make a steady up down advance up till the next run
LMAO, HTF do you come up with this stuff,
the general market does affect all stocks, when there is a major selloff, almost all stocks get hit except the rare few that have just released some phenominal news, earnings or something, and then their run may not be as solid as it could have been, so yes some stocks bust the trend and the market may not pertain to them at any given moment in time, but it is all there in the charts as in technical analysis or TA, but trading on charts alone is for flippers, in order to pick the really good ones you need to combine them with fundamental analysis, which is basically the news on the company, charts are good for picking your entry point and exit point and before you invest in a stock you should at least have an entry point for a long term pick, if it's long term you really don't need an exit now do you, but one thing is for sure, good news trumps all techs, if phenominal news comes out it doesn't matter how the techs(charts) are set up, it will run anyway
GL
Midas
i don't have L2 so i don't know if it was a buy or sell, does anyone know?, i was basing my reply on previous posts that said it was a buy, the day before the spike, on the 10 day daily, stochs(slow) formed a W pattern and stochs and RSI flatlined at 2:45pm, macd was also pretty much flatlined on 0 all day, same as today, except todays W is more pronounced, 2 days before the spike stochs(slow) coiled before noon then dropped to 0 around 1:30 then raced to 100 EOD, same as yesterday except yesterdays coil is much heavier, if that was a buy then someone wanted alot at 3:58 and all daily techs point to a run if the pattern repeats, news tomorrow?