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works for me, le le le er gooooooooo
Post your findings
now that's a thought I could have done with out lol
more than that
maybe
Here is something that will help.
http://www.babypips.com/
This site is for trading money, BUT chart in Currency and charts in stocks are ALL THE SAME. Press on the school tab and learn the charts
Guys Look at this
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Press the second GameznFlix selection
That is the problem sr, he has no Idea where that is
You and a few of us are
le le le le let er gooooooooo
Correct, its a collective effert
Make sure you understand that the charts are "Just an Indicator" of where it WAS ... It will NOT tell you 100% where its going
AND you can misread it.
YES! Learn the Chart ... PERIOD
I can go for that
You notice a lot of new names poping up. Names that were just born. Those guys must think they are the only smart ones lolo
Tell you when we talk, but yes
I got your PM ...
but
I can no longer PM anyone
inversion at its finest lolo
L2 Please
we all are tough. Just for dealing with this!!!
Ya I figure you would come up with something Childish, Never grew up ha bud. Your mother still change your Diapers ...
I am doing ok thanks
Hey TAKI, just stoping by to say hello bud.
I'm a tough guy ... but thanks anyway
1,000,000.00 * .0006 = $600.00 … ???
then learn to make it back and keep it. But do not start up an attitude and try and belittle people just bacause you had a bad run. Would you like to hear my story. I will bet its bigger than yours.
Guys, learn to teach each other and help one another. If we tought each other, we would have a better trading tomarrow. And to hell with the Banks, They are the ones that have put our USA in major trouble.
lolo there is NOTHING SPECIAL about that feeling needing Pepto Bismal ... lol
Now don't start a rumer
lolo Me wake up lolo you ... need to learn to read ... NO WHERE in any of my post have I ever said anything about ANY R/S, mucj less any number tied to it.
eWorld Companies' Outstanding Common Shares and Public Float Remain Unchanged for Past Year
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/eWorld-Companies-Outstanding-iw-696629564.html?x=0&.v=1
NP bud
This is LONG; If you read anything, read this part:
However, an indirect approach tends to weaken the
path of least resistance before slowly overcoming
it. The most effective way is long-term investors
slowly accumulating and holding thus drawing the
MMs out of its defenses making them as naked as
their short position. This is war so this slow
accumulation and holding for the long term easily
achieves the desired effect to force MMs to cover
and knock off the tactics or bury themselves
deeper.
The MMs when caught will especially use every trick
and tactic in the book to get a Bear Raid (big sell off) thus
playing on the individual fear of most people. The
MMs feel they have information and position
advantages over the investors as long as the
holding of the stock is in weak hands or short term
holders. Since they are OTC BB MMs who believe all
OTCBB companies are not worth investing and
management is ineffective regardless what is
happening within the company. Furthermore, MMs know
they are in the position to impose a great deal of
influence in OTC BB stocks trading when it suits
their needs.
This inherent power of position enables the MMs to
move the markets at any time up or down. As a
result, the only way to draw them out of their
favorable position is going long. Now this does not
mean just any company but to effectively nail the
MMs, Longs must find the great company on the floor
and accumulate long before the MM tactics and games
begin.
This requires extensive research to find such a
rare stock, but once you have found it, you are one
up on the MMs so be prepared for every tactic in
the book.
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OT For the investors that are not use to penny stocks. This is a good read.
More and more investors are winning the game
nowadays despite all bashers that float through the
Internet that has become part of the game. Floor
traders of market makers often watch CNBC, news
wires and bulletin boards in order to follow the
market during trading session. OTC BB market makers
(MMs) don't use fundamental and technical analysis.
However, what they do realize is a lot of dumb
money does use this newest niche charting or TA
(Technical Analysis) to run a stock either up or
down. To the MMs this is like taking candy from a
baby. Simply they will paint the tape and use
whatever tactic to affect the charting bands. Thus
the public and dumb money they will have eating out
of their hands. Effectively the MMs can show a
strong stock growing weak by manipulating the close
price in order to generate selling volume, delaying
trading time to manipulate trading activities, or
even stalling the ask without honoring orders to
hold a stock price.
MMs follow a simple code of business when making a
market in a stock especially an OTC BB / PS. That is the
level that stocks will seek that yields the most
volume. Now this is very important because they
make money on the volume buying at the bid and
selling at the ask. In other words, by making the
market they are buying low and selling high. Now
smart money adheres to that rule, so do all the
market makers. They could careless whether the
stock is at $22 or at $0.0002. All they care about
is the action thus being able to sell stock at the
offer (The high) and buy stock at the bid (The
low). To increase their profitability, they make
the spread as great as possible on as many shares
as they can especially if the volume falls off.
When they have mostly all "buy" orders, that's not
the price that's going to yield the most volume.
They need both buy and sells to get the maximum
action. Remember, MMs play the volume. If the
volume decreases and there are mostly Buys that
become a one way volume, Buy volume. So what they
do is let the stock run up to a price where it runs
out of steam. They fill all the buy orders there
that they can and then comes the pullback one way
or another naturally or induced. During the pull
back they can buy tons of shares and flip them to
those averaging down or trying to catch the bounce.
At some price, the stock will be relatively stable
and yield the most volume. Now that is the average
price you will see
The average price is the point where a stock seeks
a level where MMs can profit on the most volume.
So during the day that is the price that MMs and
momentum/day traders want to see the stock at. Why?
Because they know the public and dumb money was
chasing the price thing up. Most of the time, the
MMs love a flurry of Market Orders which is a dead
sign of an artificial run or momentum. Merely it
is money in the bank for them. Most get hung in a
momentum or day trade or by the tactics of Market
makers, who are in the business to screw the public
every chance they get. They are merely making the
market liquid is their reasoning.
The market makers have created an added
complication to the OTCBB's /PS chaos of the already
volatile intra-day price movements created by dumb
money, momentum and day-traders. MMs can not relate
to long-term holders in the OTC BB / PS. That makes
absolutely no sense what so ever. They feel a large
percentage of trades in the OTC BB / PS market consist
of short-term or day-trades, MMs merely view the
barrage of buy and sell orders as relatively
neutral to the market. How they figure it is when
the average dumb money buys shares in a company,
the MMs feel or rather know with some certainty it
is very likely that dumb money will want to sell
back those shares relatively quick on the slightest
drop.
Now somewhat comfortable with this logic the MMs
merely short sells into the buying and attempts to
take the stock down in an effort to "shake out" the
weak. Since it is tough to know for sure whether a
move is the beginning of a trend, or a routine
shake out, this type of deception works quite well
for the MMs. What the long-termers do to a stock
is surprise the MMs because instead of falling, the
shorting has no effect and the price goes up. Now
that puts the MM at selling low through shorting
and thus having to buy high in order to cover.
Boy, when this happens, the MMs are not very happy
campers. The investors and traders aren't supposed to
be doing that to them. Now it becomes time to pull
out every trick and tactic in the book in order to
attempt to get a Bear Raid at every dollar/cent mark or
percent from where the stock started. Could be a
fraction of a penny in smaller priced securities.
What MMs do is give you a chance to make a small amount
of money for your momentum and day trading style by
shorting it at these levels and trying to get a bear raid
each time. Each failure is compounding the MMs
short position so they let it go to the next level.
Now come more deliberate tactics MMs use to coerce
Bear Raid or panic selling.
Once the MM is caught short and the strength of the
buy is overpowering the MM will want to cover his
short position. So the MMs call up one of his
friendly MMs and says some like "the weather is
sure rough today." The MM along with the other
"friendly MM initiates a down tick about the same
time. Now this can also be done with a certain
amount of shares such as an infamous 100 shares
flag. This down tick gives the illusion of weakness
designed to hopefully begin the bear raid of
selling. The fickle, fearful, day trader, momentum
and short term begin to sell out allowing the MM
to cover his short position at lower prices. They
will move it down quickly to get it to a price of
least financial damage. Problem they have is
long-term investors in the OTC BB / PS. They start
accumulating and buying comes flying in when they
take it too far thus the MMs took it to the point
of volume again and not only investors the other
MMs step in the make money on the spread.
Alas the poor MM does not get to cover. Now comes
various tactics like stalling, boxing, or even
locking the Bid and Ask for a while.
Of course, MMs aggressively deny any sort of
collusion designed to fix quotes or spreads.
MMs have a vast resource of tactics and it would
take probably more than a lifetime to figure them
all out.
So how do investors somehow manage to overcome the
obvious deception in OTCBB arena? One answer is
indirection trading style by going long which the
MMs do not expect. In the war between investors and
public companies on the OTC BB / PS vs the MMs, if the
MMs have all the advantages due to position or
other factors, direct confrontation such as
momentum or day trading hitting the stock is a
definite death sentence.
However, an indirect approach tends to weaken the
path of least resistance before slowly overcoming
it. The most effective way is long-term investors
slowly accumulating and holding thus drawing the
MMs out of its defenses making them as naked as
their short position. This is war so this slow
accumulation and holding for the long term easily
achieves the desired effect to force MMs to cover
and knock off the tactics or bury themselves
deeper.
The MMs when caught will especially use every trick
and tactic in the book to get a Bear Raid thus
playing on the individual fear of most people. The
MMs feel they have information and position
advantages over the investors as long as the
holding of the stock is in weak hands or short term
holders. Since they are OTC BB MMs who believe all
OTCBB companies are not worth investing and
management is ineffective regardless what is
happening within the company. Furthermore, MMs know
they are in the position to impose a great deal of
influence in OTC BB stocks trading when it suits
their needs.
This inherent power of position enables the MMs to
move the markets at any time up or down. As a
result, the only way to draw them out of their
favorable position is going long. Now this does not
mean just any company but to effectively nail the
MMs, Longs must find the great company on the floor
and accumulate long before the MM tactics and games
begin.
This requires extensive research to find such a
rare stock, but once you have found it, you are one
up on the MMs so be prepared for every tactic in
the book.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/financialcareers/06/mmakertricks.asp
How To Work Around A Market Maker's Tricks
by Glenn Curtis (Contact Author | Biography)
In many ways, the Nasdaq is more efficient than the major stock exchanges because it uses lightning-fast computer linkages, which are typically "open cry" floor models. However, the process associated with bidding for stock and executing a Nasdaq trade is far from perfect. In fact, in spite of the quick "fills", Nasdaq is also known for giving, market makers, who make their living trading Nasdaq stocks, ways to fool brokers and investors into thinking that they are truly getting the best execution price, when in fact they are not. For this reason, brokers need to ensure that they and their customers are being treated fairly by being aware of the tricks and gimmicks market makers use.
Trick #1: Giving Phony Sizes
When a trade is called into the floor of the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), it is immediately routed to a specialist in the stock, who often has limited interest in the individual trade. Because the specialist is being inundated by traders, he simply wants to find a buyer or a seller for your stock as soon as possible. Essentially, he is an intermediary, who sometimes takes positions in stock, but is really there to function as a liquidity provider.
However, Nasdaq market makers, routinely take positions in stocks, both long and short, and then turn them around for a profit, or a loss, later in the day. They provide liquidity, but they are also more focused on capitalizing on your lot of stock by buying it for their own trading account and then flipping it to another buyer. In any case, market makers will sometimes post phony sizes in order to lure you into buying or selling a stock.
For example, market makers may post a bid and an offer that looks something like this:
$10-$10.25 (75x10)
This means that they will buy 7,500 (multiply 75x100) shares of your stock at $10 per share and they will sell 1,000 shares of stock at $10.25. They are obligated under Nasdaq rules to honor those sizes. However, there is a chance that the market maker already owns a position in the stock, and by posting a bid for 7,500 shares, he is merely looking to fool brokers and investors into thinking that there is big demand for the stock and that it is moving higher. (To read more on this subject, see Electronic Trading Tutorial and Markets Demystified.)
Note on this subject: While actions such as this may be frowned upon by the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) - they are still fairly common in practice. Also, if someone tries to sell 7,500 shares to the market maker, he must buy them because his bid is posted.
So what happens? Most brokers will simply pay $10.25 for the stock just to get the trade done, but in reality, the purpose of posting a big bid was to sell the market maker's 1,000 shares at $10.25 to the unsuspecting broker. The trick worked! Incidentally, the same trick can be used in reverse on the sell side of the equation. The market maker may show a big offer of say 10,000 shares. Brokers see this, think that the market maker is looking to unload a big block of stock, and quickly sell their shares at the bid price (which, using the above example, is $10). In this case, the trick works again because the market maker fools the broker into selling his shares at $10, precisely where he (the market maker) wanted to buy them.
How to Avoid this Trick: Watch a stock trade before buying or selling it. Learn the players in the stock. By watching the action on a “level 2” or “level 3” screen, you can tell who is accumulating shares or unloading them. With this knowledge, you'll have a better idea of whether the sizes the market maker posts are real. (To learn more, read Introduction To Level II Quotes.)
Trick #2: The Ticket Switch
When a broker enters his order, he usually fills out an order ticket and then gives it to a clerk, who then (in theory) executes the order himself, or gives the order to a trader. In doing so, the clerk takes the broker's ticket, time stamps it and attempts to execute the trade. (To continue reading on this subject, see The Nitty-Gritty Of Executing A Trade and Understanding Order Execution.)
However, sometimes the market is moving when this process is going on. In other words, the stock is moving higher (from $10, to $10.12, to $10.25) from the time it takes the broker to get up from his desk and hand the ticket to the clerk. In this case, some clerks will take the ticket, see the stock moving higher and buy the stock at $10.12 for his own, or another broker's, account, and then sell the stock at $10.25 to the broker who originally placed the order. What happens if the stock goes down to $9.75 immediately after the clerk buys it for himself? Although the practice is illegal, the clerk could take the physical ticket, switch the account number on the bottom and tell the original broker he bought the stock at $10.12. Incidentally, market makers will pull this same trick, buying and selling the stock for their own account, using your trade as a cover.
How to Avoid This Trick: Brokers should watch their order entry clerks place the order and wait near the order window to see if they "got a fill". If the transaction is done electronically, correspond with the order clerk, and/or the market maker through your trusted order clerk immediately to see your execution price. Also watch how the stock moves and make sure that nobody is making money off your trade.
Trick #3: Jumping Ahead of Market Orders
When a broker places a market order for a stock, he or she is giving instructions to buy the shares at whatever the current price is. This can be a lucrative order for an unscrupulous market maker.
Again, using the same example as before, suppose he is posting a quote that looks like this:
$10-$10.25 (75x10)
If that market maker is getting "hit" with orders, he may sell 1,000 shares at $10.25, then 500 at $10.30, and so on. But seeing your "market order" in his basket of orders to be filled, he knows that you are giving him a carte blanche - in other words, that you are essentially willing to pay any price to get into the stock. So you will.
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In most cases, a market maker will make sure that you get filled at a high price (maybe $10.45 a share or higher), and you won't even know it happened! Here's how it works: You saw the stock moving higher and assumed you were last on line, but in reality, the market maker saw your order in the long line of orders and simply bumped up the offer price to accommodate your carte blanche. Working for you are the time-and-date stamps on the physical tickets, a running electronic tally of bids and offers that will help limit occurrences such as these. There's the fact that all these actions are monitored internally at the firm and may be spot-checked by regulators. Despite these safeguards, however, in a stock with high volume, it is hard to prevent and/or prove.
How to Avoid This Trick: Don't place market orders. Use limit orders. In the example above, your order should sound like this: "I want to buy 1,000 shares of XYZ stock at $10.25 or better for the day." This means that the maximum amount you will pay is $10.25, and that the order is good only for this trading day. This will give the market maker fewer opportunities to manipulate you and your client. However, it also means you might miss out on the order should the price rise above your limit.
Conclusion
In short, market makers are trying to make money. It's their job. It's also why you need to keep an eye on your order immediately after the trade is placed. In the long run, both you, and your clients will be happy you did.
by Glenn Curtis (Contact Author | Biography)
Glenn Curtis started his career as an equity analyst at Cantone Research, a New Jersey-based regional brokerage firm. He has since worked as an equity analyst and a financial writer at a number of print/web publications and brokerage firms including Registered Representative Magazine, Advanced Trading Magazine, Worldlyinvestor.com, RealMoney.com, TheStreet.com and Prudential Securities. Curtis has also held Series 6,7,24 and 63 securities licenses.
I spoke and you all still twisted my meaning.
GO LIVE IN YOUR OWN DECEPTIONS, I am done explaining
lolo REALLY!!! wow I did not know that
Learn the Charts ...
I could be wrong, but I do not think so.
I will not tell you he is NOT a crook. I do not know him well enough. And you NEVER hear me stick up for him in ANY POST.
But if you and your so-called friends are investing in a Pinky stock where the CEO is a crook as a Long ... well you get just what you deserve.
I have invested in the Idea of the buyout myself, but 95% of the pinks are scams ... AND YOU KNOW THIS. So Do Not carry your self-riotous twisted words here. You know as well as I that my post were always talking of the stock rebounding. I NEVER SAID anything about the CEO. Or the Company.
I am seeing the support and resistance levels holding. The MM’s are in control … PERIOD …
They will not buy all that money back and be left holding the bag.
Looks like we r running soon
Board take note, The Genius investors have spoken. The true EWRC investors are back once again to lie and twist facts to make a living.
That is a good thing
Who knows. But pink's are not run by the PR's. The MM's control them. The charts are showing a run comming
Yes I surely agree