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sara, no one has been confused
Have you ever seen anyone on any board state that they thought my opinions and comments were part of the SEC document? No, NEVER! YOU are the one on RB that they are making a fool of about those candle stick charts. You still don't realize it was a big old joke, just like you. I'm sure that is why you're not showing your ugly stupid mug on RB and Yahoo anymore and why you'd never even set foot in SI. You'd rather be the wrinkly old fish in the tiny little pond of even wrinklier old fish.
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25 days under a buck
Delisting letter to be sent out in five more trading days under a buck. Share price .85, lower volume. ASTN does not meet minimum to access new toxic convertible death spiral financing.
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I posted whom I called
his name adn phone number so anyone could call to confirm. Sorry you don't have enough money for a local phone call and are too lazy to verify anything.
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simple sara, if you can't tell the difference
between my comments and sec language, you have a serious problem and should never be allowed to touch money, not even small change.
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I only reposted after deletion
I did make a note to you that I had done that. Not trying to get it on the board twice, just once.
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jmhollen?
is this the guy that has a bunch of user names and has conversations with himself? agreeing with his own posts on bobz? I really love that function where they add your ip address to your post. As jmhollen posts through a static one, you can always tell when it's him, hyping his own hype posts, specifically la forza. Now there's a dog of a stock.
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I forgot
and for some reason can't edit my post.
I cannot post what a ceo tells me on the phone. He must write it in an email and then it still will not be believed. He must basically state what he told me in an SEC doc or I can't post it. I post his name and number and ask others to verify but no one else is willing to make a simple phone call. I'd record the call but that is illegal.
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these boards are about opinions only
someone here is making a stink that all of our opinions and posts must contain links to online internet articles, sec docs which substantiate everything we post like we are presenting our posts to a judge at a trial. This is not a court of law. This is not the LA Times doing an unbiased article on a company. These boards are just a bunch of people sharing their thoughts and opinions about public companies. If I post that I think I a certain company has scammy elements, there are some posters here who think I should be sued for slander and libel. That is total bull. They call me an idiot without posting a link to my IQ test and you don't see me suing them. It's just so ridiculous that these people are so hypocritical about posting. If I post a negative opinion, I must back it up with only online linked articles. If they post a positive one, they don't need any basis for that post. No one asks for their references. What really gets me is that I'm always posting links. I didn't realize I HAD TO post those links in every single post I make or my posts will be deleted. Hypocritical bull.
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This is a message board
Not a court of law or legal document. These are all just people's opinions. You take this stuff too seriously. Go back to your fantasy games and speaking klingon to your trekkie boyfriends.
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jmhollen, sara deleting posts again
They have just deleted for the third time posts which you restored on PMCY. They obviously have a personal issue with me as I posted just information. I made sure not to violate any tos.
Are there any rules about continuing to delete posts which you have restored? Is that a tou violation? Do they get suspended or can they just do it over and over and over again. Also, how does this enforcement work? On RB and Yahoo you get one warning for minor infractions. Next time you violate tos you are suspended for a week on RB and you get deleted on Yahoo, user name and all posts. What happens at ihub? Do you get get warnings over and over again and just get your offending posts deleted? It seems to me that will not stop the offending behavior but encourage it as there is not even a slap on the wrist. Can ALL of us ignore the tou or only certain people here? just asking.
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My opinion
does not need links. I still think astn is a bad investment about to get worse. They are running out of funds, are about to do some toxic convertible financing and they are not profitable. They will probably be delisted asthey have been under a buck for 24 straight trading days.
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They are using HD engines
to build these bikes and HD parts. HD is relevant to this conversation.
Thank you for forwarding this and the press release to us. To answer your
question, there is nothing illegal in another motorcycle company using
legally-purchased HARLEY-DAVIDSON engines or other parts in the assembly of
its own motorcycles, or in advertising that fact in a truthful,
informational way. Nor, irrespective of how Harley-Davidson might feel
about it (and I can't speak to that because it's not my area), is there
anything illegal in dealers selling these components for this purpose.
However, my guess is that Patriot may find that getting its hands on a
relative handful of engines each year is one thing; getting its hands on
enough of them to go into anything resembling full production will be quite
another.
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new director isn't squeaky clean
He had options for 3,333,333 shares at .003 of this company
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/896145/0001061737-01-500008.txt
here's the last company he consulted for.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=OSFT.OB&d=t
look at these charts, amazingly similar
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ASTN&d=c&k=c1&c=osft&a=v&p=s&t=1y&l=on&...
will he be taking astn to .003 also? This guy is in San Francisco, CA. Is he gonna fly to all the meetings?
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I didn't add anything to SEC copy/paste
I have never done that in my life. I would never forge a document. My comments are plain as day. Someone would really have to have a major problem to not be able to differentiate between the two. I even use quotes.
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I posted SEC link earlier post
should I post it in each post about the same document? Everyone be sure to do the same, with everything. If someone posts that someone is a liar, please post a link to said lie and prove that it's a lie with other links.
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Liar joe
let me post your ip and isp and I will do it. I know if I post more than your area code you will start with lawsuit threats again. Are you allowing me to post any and all information about you on this board?
I have one user name on each board and you know it. You are the multiusername guy.
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Companies are not buying from HD
because HD will not sell new Twin Cam motors to manufacturers. ONLY HD dealers can get them. Do some DD.
Of course there is no warranty for a non HD bike. The people who bought the custom construction with HD registration didn't always realize they were not HDs. There were numerous lawsuits. Some Ultra dealer even sold an Ultra and told the guy it was a HD. Ultra is also the name of a HD model. The guy sued the store and won after the thing broke down on him. HD didn't want their name looking bad just because someone built a shitty bike wtih their parts.
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you are wrong, joe
It is completely against all HD dealer regulations to buy a HD frame for use in a special construction bike. That is why HD frame look alikes sell for twice as much as the real thing, because HD will not sell them. They will only give you a new frame if you sent it a broken piece of your old one, namely the neck. They don't want people calling them HDs. People have done that before. Then they sell them, they break down and people want HD warranties and have none. Before you could have just a HD engine and tranny and call your bike a custom. Not anymore. You need the frame also which they won't sell.
Did you not read the HD email before one of you guys deleted it? It says they MAY get a handful of frames that way but can't produce any number of bikes that way. That company seems suspect to me.
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You emailed shareholder and told him
you lived in DC. Then you emailed him using tim name and stated you lived in florida. You gave him your phone number. This is teh guy you totally suckered over there and he lost a bundle. He says "thanks!"
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notes from new filing
Commencing August 1, 2001, all non-employee directors will receive a
monthly retainer fee of $1,500 and will also be reimbursed for out-of-pocket expenses. The Chairman of
the Audit Committee will be paid an additional monthly fee of $1,000. The non-
employee directors also participate in our Stock Option Plans. We grant options
to purchase shares of Common Stock to each person who becomes a non-employee
director at the time of initial election or appointment. These options are
granted with an exercise price per share equal to 100% of the fair market value
of a share on the date of grant. Such options expire five years after the date
of grant.
golden parachute for fred. Five years from 2000.
Mr. Rittereiser, Ashton and UTTC are parties to an Employment Agreement,
effective September 1, 2000, which provides that Mr. Rittereiser serve as Chief
Executive Officer of Ashton and UTTC for a period of five years. The agreement
provides that Mr. Rittereiser be paid a salary of $300,000 per year by UTTC and
a salary of $60,000 per year by Ashton.
Gothner is not independent
Messrs. Brown, Butler and Kronish satisfy the "independent director" standards of the National Association of Securities Dealers, Inc. ("NASD"), as they apply to the audit committees of public companies registered for trading on the Nasdaq Stock Market, Inc. ("Nasdaq"). Mr. Gothner, however, does not meet this standard due to his receipt of compensation from Ashton in excess of $60,000, other than his compensation for board service. Under the NASD's rules, Mr. Gothner may continue to serve as a member of Ashton's Audit Committee, provided that (i) the Board discloses the nature of Mr. Gothner's relationship to Ashton (see "Certain Relationships and Related Transactions: Adirondack Capital, LLC and K. Ivan F. Gothner;") and (ii) the Board of Directors determines that Mr. Gothner's service on the Audit Committee is in the best interests of Ashton and its stockholders and the Board discloses, in this proxy statement, the reasons for that determination. The Board of Directors has determined that it is in the best interests of Ashton and its stockholders to continue the appointment of Mr. Gothner to the Audit Committee, notwithstanding the fact that he does not meet the technical requirements for independence under the NASD rules. Mr. Gothner has served on the Board of Directors of Ashton since December 1997 and has provided guidance to Ashton, through his service on the Audit Committee, in the areas of strategic planning and corporate finance. This guidance has been important to Ashton in striving toward its long-term goals. In addition, Mr. Gothner has played a critical role in attracting capital to Ashton by acting as the investment banker for most of Ashton's private equity financing. Furthermore, Mr. Gothner has always voted independently as a member of the Audit Committee and Board of Directors. Therefore, the Board of Directors has determined that it is in the best interests of Ashton to re-appoint Mr. Gothner to the Audit Committee.
The Compensation Committee is comprised of Thomas G. Brown, Richard E.
Butler, K. Ivan F. Gothner and Herbert Kronish. K. Ivan F. Gothner is the
Chairman of the Compensation Committee. The Compensation Committee reviews the
compensation of all officers of Ashton and administers Ashton's employee stock
option and incentive plans. The Compensation Committee met four times during the
last fiscal year.
Arthur J. Bacci...................................... 243,660 (1) *
Thomas G. Brown..................................... 55,000 (2) *
Richard E. Butler.................................... 230,000 (3) *
Buntzie Ellis Churchill.............................. -0- *
Wayne H. Coleson..................................... -0- *
K. Ivan F. Gothner................................... 770,262 (4) 2.3%
Herbert Kronish...................................... 100,000 (5) *
Fredric W. Rittereiser............................... 1,628,500 (6) 4.8%
William W. Uchimoto.................................. 275,536 (7) *
Fred S. Weingard..................................... 873,869 (8) 2.6%
All executive officers and directors of the
Company as a group (11 persons)................. 4,187,427***
Fred's shares
(6) Mr. Rittereiser may be deemed to be the beneficial owner of: (i) 403,500
shares of Common Stock held of record by The Dover Group, Inc ("Dover");
(ii) 25,000 shares of Common Stock issuable upon the exercise of
Redeemable Warrants held by Dover which are currently exercisable at
$5.85 per share; (iii) 1,000,000 shares of Common Stock issuable upon
exercise of options held by Mr. Rittereiser which are currently
exercisable at $1.875 per share; (iv) 100,000 shares of Common
Stock issuable upon exercise of options held by Mr. Rittereiser which are
currently exercisable at $10.50 per share; and (v) 100,000 shares held by
Mr. Rittereiser's wife as a gift from her father, Frederick Weimmer, Sr.,
of which Mr. Rittereiser disclaims beneficial ownership. Dover is a
corporation of which Mr. Rittereiser is the sole stockholder, director
and officer
Universal Trading Technologies Corporation (Majority Owned Subsidiary),
Common Stock, par value $0.01 per share. As of June 30, 2001, there were
18,530,417 shares outstanding.
<TABLE>
<CAPTION>
Amount and
Nature of
Name and Address of Beneficial Percent
Beneficial Owner Ownership of Class
---------------- --------- --------
<S> <C> <C>
Arthur J. Bacci...................................... 500,000 (1) 2.6%
Thomas G. Brown...................................... 125,000 (2) *
Richard E. Butler.................................... 225,000 (3) 1.2%
Buntzie Ellis Churchill.............................. -0- *
Wayne H. Coleson..................................... -0- *
K. Ivan F. Gothner................................... 640,000 (4) 3.3%
Herbert Kronish...................................... -0- *
Fredric W. Rittereiser............................... 1,000,001 (5) 5.2%
William W. Uchimoto.................................. 500,000 (6) 2.6%
Fred S. Weingard..................................... 650,000 (7) 3.4%
All executive officers and directors as a group
(11 persons)......................................... 3,649,001** 16.7%
</TABLE>
Based solely upon a review of Forms 3, 4, and 5 and amendments thereto
furnished to Ashton during and with respect to its most recent fiscal year,
Ashton believes that all of its executive officers, directors and persons who
may have been deemed to be greater than 10% stockholders during the year have
made all filings required to be made under Section 16(a) of the Securities
Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, except that K. Ivan F. Gothner, a Company
director, filed one Form 5 that reported one transaction that was not reported
on a timely basis.
notice it says SOME
The following are some of the conditions that must be met before
Jameson is obligated to buy shares of the Common Stock:
. a registration statement of Form S-2 must be declared
effective by the SEC and remain effective. We filed a
registration statement on Form S-2 on July 19, 2001 to
register the resale of 5 million shares of our Common Stock to
be sold to Jameson under the Equity Line and to be issued to
Jameson upon its exercise of the Warrant;
. Ashton's representations and warranties given to Jameson must
be true and correct, and Ashton must comply with the
provisions of the agreement with Jameson;
. the Common Stock must remain traded on the Nasdaq National
Market System or another trading market or exchange.
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new SEC filing
change in directors
The Board of Directors currently consists of eight (8) members: Arthur J.
Bacci, Thomas G. Brown, Richard E. Butler, K. Ivan F. Gothner, Herbert Kronish,
Fredric W. Rittereiser, William W. Uchimoto and Fred S. Weingard. Under Ashton's
Bylaws, the Board of Directors is authorized to determine the number of
directors of Ashton. The number of directors to be elected at the Annual Meeting
has been fixed at eight (8). The Board of Directors has nominated Arthur J.
Bacci, Thomas G. Brown, Buntzie Ellis Churchill, Wayne H. Coleson, K. Ivan F.
Gothner, Fredric W. Rittereiser, William W. Uchimoto and Fred S. Weingard to be
elected to serve until the next annual meeting of stockholders and until their
successors shall have been duly elected and qualified.
Kronish and Butler have not been nominated. Wonder why they're stepping down?
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you state you're in DC
you will again state that you can't possibly have a Florida area code. This is just some set up probably.
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ALL of my pmcy posts are gone but one
which is a oneliner with the correct url for hte company. Why did you delete the other ones? They were pure facts with links.
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you deleted my posts?
matt replaced my posts twice when hollen removed them then YOU deleted them? All of my posts are gone but one. Did you not see matt replace them twice? You also attack me on your board yet you don't delete your own posts. Your reply posts were also attacks and you didn't delete them either. You are insane and a hypocrite besides a horrible investor. If you didn't think astn was a good buy at .87 .90, why did you buy it? You even bought it much higher as per your portfolio. You shouldn't be allowed to touch money based on that portfolio. Sure hope your kids are smart enough to get a scholarship as I doubt you'll have any money left for college funds. I did hear of a girl who worked at a strip joint to pay for her college education. Of course if your kid looks like you, that avenue will not be open to her.
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one person at hdi said illegal
another in a different department said they frown on it but it does not seem to be illegal. I bet if I called another person at hdi I'd get an even different answer. As always, I did not lie. I reported what I was told and I posted my reference, phone call, email... You posted that astn was a great buy at .87 to .90 and you bought more. They're at .83 now.
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in fact sara
hollen just removed all my posts but one so no one can even read the original email.
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jmhollen removed my response to you
you are wrong sara and I will leave it at that. I still don't know why you protect companies like astn and pmcy, loser companies that intentionally mislead shareholders. My first phone call to HD got a different response. This woman is responding from a different division. Notice I posted the email so it's not like I'm hiding anything.
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jmhollen has a few user names
he probably marked himself in his few names. The other ones might be the SEC keeping track of his pump and dumps and admin keeping track of his violations.
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last time i posted timtomjoe's info
He had me booted for posting private information. He also had a tizzy fit on the board. Then he said it wasn't even his information. Why'd he have a fit? Why'd I get booted? He will just deny, deny, deny, like stating he's in D.C. when he's in Florida as per his email ip and isp. They do not have that service in D.C., only Florida and another state down there.
sara, I posted all of your information. I got that right.
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Call up investors relations
I will post the email I received from HD here without the person's name or address so you don't harass this woman to pieces. She is in charge of protecting the HD name. I sent her the Patriot press release asking if this was indeed true. I added the bit from the site about how they get the engines. On the phone they said that they believe the flow from the dealer will start drying up soon. Those extra separate twin cam engines are supposed to be used for a few custom bikes built by the dealers as project bikes. They are not supposed to be sold to others to build project bikes for mass manufacturing purposes. There is another company doing this also called BMC or something. They are an assembler, not a manufacturer, and they build VERY few bikes, so far just one. They look like ultra sledgehammer.
"Thank you for forwarding this and the press release to us. To answer your
question, there is nothing illegal in another motorcycle company using
legally-purchased HARLEY-DAVIDSON engines or other parts in the assembly of
its own motorcycles, or in advertising that fact in a truthful,
informational way. Nor, irrespective of how Harley-Davidson might feel
about it (and I can't speak to that because it's not my area), is there
anything illegal in dealers selling these components for this purpose.
However, my guess is that Patriot may find that getting its hands on a
relative handful of engines each year is one thing; getting its hands on
enough of them to go into anything resembling full production will be quite
another."
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joelong is timandzack
living near Ft. Lauderdale Florida. Area code is 305. He is also thomasfl. He uses all three of these names on Yahoo and RB as well, posting the exact same thing, character for character.
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can I post your ip and isp info also?
along with your computer info? You have a dialup so why would you care as your ip changes all the time. Just making sure I won't get in trouble for it. Your phone number is not in Talahassee. Perhaps when you stated you were in talahasee fishing it was just a vacation.
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24 days under a buck
if they stay under a buck today. I believe they will.
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I spoke with Harley
That's how I know. Call HD yourself. They said they do give engines to HD dealers to make custom bikes. They don't give them to dealers to sell to others ot make custom bikes and market them as a different manufacturer, namely Patriot. They said Patriot's supply of engines will be drying up now.
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Can I post all of that, joe?
Just waiting for you to let me post it. You got me booted off rb for posting it last time. It wasn't your information?
astn is still a super crappy investment. $18 to .86
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and who owns realmotorcycles.com?
this is getting more interesting. Another public company.
DIAMOND ACQUIRES MAJORITY INTEREST
IN E-RETAILER "REALMOTORCYCLES.COM"
Mesa, Arizona (October 10, 2000) Diamond Equities, Inc. (NASDAQ OTC Bulletin Board: DDEQ), announced today that it has acquired majority interest in e-retailer "RealMotorcycles.com."
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=DDEQ.OB
one shell after another
realmotorcycles.com is that other ip address
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Funny it didn't affect AOL browser
just the other ones. I could only post through AOL. Thanks for the warning. I've contacted the servers on my sites.
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Am I only one who can post?
I rule ihub!
I can only post on AOL, not IE.
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tasting, tasting
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23 days under a buck
7 more and they get their delisting letter.
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