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END OF THE MONTH - BUY IN THE LAST 5 MIN of trading
I was thinking....... Once we know the amount of money we sold Berlin, we need to divide it by 50% because if you look at the chart Laidlaw Boipower LLC is owned 25% by Novus Energy and 25% by North Star Energy.
Unless Laidlaw Energy Group sold Laidlaw Biopower as well.....
looking for a clear PR soon
end of month - they will keep it down
did you get married yet?
I was watching SWAMP LOGGERS the other day and they were in North Carolina and they talked about all the wood supply they have but the demand for wood was at a LOW..... This gets my mind pumping and thinking.
NO CASH DIVIDEND..that is not what this company is about ...YET. right NOW we needs 100% for the next project....
GROWTH..GROWTH..GROWTH.....
We already know we have invested $14million so far in Berlin and I am sure we will get this back plus some. So I can guess no less than $20million is a fare number. $6million for three years of hard work. We are handing them a gold spoon with the permit in order and PPAs.
The numbers:
$20million / 3billion = .0066 min Price Per Share by August 31th...JMO
$25million / 3billion = .0083
$30million / 3billion = .01 (PENNYLAND)
A/S = 3billion
O/S = 2,379,721,088
Available to issue A/S - O/S = 620,278,912
620,278,912 x .0066 = $4,093,840
620,278,912 x .0083 = $5,148,314
620,278,912 x .01 = $6,202,789
I know most people do not want to think about dilution at this time. It is good to know that it is here if we need cash to help fund a new project. It is all about growth and majority ownership. If dilution is needed for growth and more ownership than this is a good thing for the company.
I think this is going to be good.
Have faith TAP. I was in the same boat as you a few weeks ago but now I see a light.
Only time will tell if I am right ;)
BUT I have not sold a single share in 1 1/2 years and I have no plans on selling.
We will be compensated for the sale of Laidlaw Berlin and that monies will be used to fund a smaller project and obtain a majority stake.
Matt, I like your post, I think we just needed the math. I will try and find time tomorrow to call you. I have a wedding and a wake to go to.
That chart has nothing to do with NewCo or Berlin at all. This is our JV with Homeland, and my thoughts about uplisting the stock to the NASDAQ or other major market (I do not think OTC:BB is a valid market)
I am just trying to answer a question in my head:
how many shares will I have once the stock is uplisted?
That is my point exactly skunk. im thinking 37.5%. 37,500 for every 100,000 shares owned. But you need to calculate by the A/S of 3billion not the O/S.
plus I am sure I an wrong 100%, just a thought that crossed my mind.
sorry about the cheap delete shot i needed a laugh....
LLEG is public but I just feel when he wants to uplist there will be other companes involved in the IPO... I could be wrong, but I want to prepare for it.
I an trying to figure out if I have 1million shares how many shares will I have in the public company IPO?
he better not sell us out in cash and we have to buy at the IPO price on IPO day.
I calculate based on full dilution. So do all calculations on the A/S (3billion) not the O/S.
This way your numbers do not have to change in case there is dilution.
OK let's change the topic a little: (Sorry Skunk it is related to Laidlaw, take your finger off the delete button)
I was thinking about when Laidlaw Energy Group (LLEG.pk) goes public how much will my shares get diluted in the new publically traded company. I came up with this chart that will explain the breakdown in my opinion... What percentage do you come up with?
Michael B. Bartoszek stated “The formation of HLE brings together tremendous synergies between Laidlaw and Homeland. Laidlaw’s strength lies is originating, developing and financing exceptional biomass project opportunities and Homeland’s strength lies in engineering, building and operating such projects. This joint venture gives the parties everything they need to take a project from conceptual stage to operations within one organization.”
We can only go by the latest release... "NewCo Energy, Inc.
has agreed to purchase 100% of Laidlaw BioPower, LLC's shares of Laidlaw Berlin BioPower"http://www.nhsec.nh.gov/2009-02/documents/100816amendments.pdf
If that is the case then we (Laidlae Energy Group (LLEG.pk) do not own any part of the Berlin Plant at all (JMO). So the question is How much money did NewCo pay us to sell them the remainder of Laidlaw Berlin BioPower? $2,000,000 , $3,000,000 , $6,000,000 . . . $30,000,000 . . . ?
Once we have cash on the balance sheet then the ONLY question is What project is next? Cash is nice but it does not equal to growth, and the PPS will suffer till we know the next project.
All JMO
Let me correct that... great for the 100% owners of laidlaw Berlin BioPower....better.
I think is still means the same % for LLEG.pk (Laidlaw Energy group) = 0
JMO
You are so right. . . this is perfect for the 100% owners at NewCo
3billion x .002 = $6,000,000
If we sold Berlin for $6,000,000 then the PPS is trading where it needs to be. There might be new projects but until they are announce we have no future growth and .002 will be MAX for this stock. If we sold it for less then $6,000,000 Triple 000 will be next.
remember the stock price trades based on future growth. This is why I am upset.
I hope MBB announces a new project SOON!
Why is it that something always kills the run in LLEG stock? Before it was dilution and now it is the sale of our one and only project. I hope it is good, I know a lot of people I got into this stock was based on owning a piece of Berlin plant and now some of them are selling.
Yup sorry one too many links
It would be here if available:
http://www.laconiadailysun.com/BerlinPDF/2010/8/20B.pdf
current and past issues can be found here:
http://www.berlindailysun.com/
SORRY
Jon, that was a very cheap shot, even you stooped to the bottom of the barrel on that one.
WildMan: I have no plans on selling and in fact I might add to my position. I need to have confidence in management.
Just my thought . . . . I am not smart enough.
Jon . . . that was a quote i found on the internet that I liked. BUT you are right about your statement. Did you hear about any $$$$ attached to the sale to NewCo?
Sorry I can not PM
e-mail be direct:
dodgechargerdaytona@gmail.com
"It's not what I own, it's what
I control that really counts."
I agree, I feel it was bad timing. I wish we got the permit then sold the plant. This way the PPS would of been MUCH MUCH higher.
and of worse things hearing about it from "You know who"......
But maybe there is another project underway that we do not know about. maybe that midwest plant we heard about last year....
I think they sold 100% and we have no interest at all in Berlin anymore..... But only a PR will tell the true tale here.
Mike, make it a great PR...please
I am not sure of that, this is why we need a PR
YES - NewCO owns 100% of the Berlin Project
it all depends on the follow up PR. if the cash is large enough ($30million) take the cash and divide by 3billion that is the value of the company in PPS. factor in future growth and we could be trading above that .01.
BUT noone here is smart enough to know but the people who know.
from what I guess we sold our 37% of Berlin to NewCo for a nice lump of cash.
I still and will not sell my shares as well. In the long run we will all make out nicely
I felt just like everyone else here. We had Berlin as our first biomass plant and we had our names on it. Now if sold to NewCo it feels like the rug was pulled out from under our feet. BUT I had to be reminded from someone a lot smarter than me this:
If I give you the choice of a pile of cash today or the potential to collect many smaller amounts over 20 years what sounds better to you?
With the cash we will now have capital to own a majority of the next project.
My shares will not be sold and I will buy more if this price drops
Thank you MBB
Matt, did you confirm that Laidlaw was all payed up in its ISO New England stuff?
i am glad we did not have a rocket day today. we need slow and steady.
BUT I think tomorrow will be a down day. I feel all the newbies who bought in expecting us to close at $1.00 today will not do their homework in knowing what this company has to offer. They will just sell in a panic.
JMO
ALL you newbies click on the "SHOW iBOX" on the upper right of this screen to help you realize why LLEG is about to make huge gains in the Biomass renewable energy market.
This is just the start and your investment will be rewarded now and for the next 2 - 3 years....hold on and do not sell.
TWO important thing missing from the previous runs. . . . this run will have no dilution, and Joint venture. in the past the runs was squashed by dilution, but now we have the Joint Venture to prevent this....... NOW WE RUN