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They shouldnt trust me on face value, That is why i have asked others to do the same i have, with posting the phone numbers and such. You said this board is to sway a stock. So you are saying its only to pump it up? We cannot have a discussion about valid concerns? Geo, i just got off the phone with TD. They CONFIRMED the name change. He could not give any other information on the company or any changes. He even tried googling answers but only has come up with what we have found. Now the confirmation of the name change is a pretty good sign i think, no clue what it means in the long or short run. I hope we get some PR from their twitter today then.
Elvis THANK YOU! Now I might not 100% agree with it but you gave a well thought out response to my concerns, something others will not.
I did just get off the phone with them again, after speaking with three different people I got a number to the company. I'm a bit wary of posting the number as it seems like some unfortunate guy has picked it up. He told me he got the number 6 months ago and has been receiving tons of calls about novation. The people I spoke to at pacific, I asked first if they could look up dragon life science holdings, did not have that as the company name and it's still novation to them. Maybe they are last in line for the new info, I don't know that.
Here is the number I received, I only ask that maybe you get one of the more trusted users here to call so this poor guy so he doesn't get bombarded with calls.403 988 2005
edit: also cant complain about us finally being a bit green for the day. Wish CDEL would vanish, they are whats holding us back, with their flip flop daily trading.
Elvis, I think you are right about the Yahoo one. Hey mods, you emailed me and said you would be deleting or talking to users that have personal attacks. I see you removed your sticky stating that. It is ok to call me a shill? Nothing I have stated is false.
A transfer agent would not have the wrong information. They would not give out misleading information. If you are trying to say they do not have the updated info, YOU, are being misleading. They absolutely can get in serious trouble for not giving correct information. A quick Google you can see.
Why won't any of you call the agent? It's a 3min phone call. I will actually call back in a few and ask about the name change, see if anything comes of it
I wasn't the one who brought up empire, someone did through that opencoporate page, https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_nv/E0082952018-5. They said the two numbers matched, NoHo, and This one I linked. I called Empire as it's listed there as the agent. They said they do not have anything to do with them. Them being dragon life holdings or noho. I have included the phone numbers to both in my last post.
Edited with phone numbers, call the transfer agent then, pacific stock transfer, see what they say
Edit: 702 361 3033
You should know they can get heavy fines or lose their license for giving false info. I'll even include empire stock, the agent linked to dragon life holdings in that one document. Call and ask him too.
702 818 5898
Tell me how I am bashing the company. I brought up concerns. Concerns no one will talk about and just, either basically call me a shill, or ignore the concerns. Does it not bother you that officially as of right now, Gelmon is still in charge. To me that kind of lines up with the deal falling south. If that's true I want to know where it is at now. Instead of bad mouthing me, which I thought a certain mod was supposed to put an end to personal attacks, give me an explanation to the concerns I brought up.
How is bringing up facts, like gelmon still being in charge, empire going cold, the dilution of 500 million shares, bad mouthing. I want answers to these questions. If you just turn a blind eye to them, man your gonna get burned. No one will talk about that. This is a board discussing NoHo, is it not? Those are big loose ends to what is going on with them, are they not? I bring these up to get answers. It is not healthy to just look at the good DD without having a discussion on what I brought up. Instead of saying I am just bad mouthing, show me proof that what I brought up is wrong. It would honestly make my day as I could rest easy knowing NoHo will definitely blast forward.
Maybe we care about our investment and dont just look at the DD like a kid looking at keys dangling. We want answers to that final piece, the ACTUAL connection for dragon life to NOHO. As of now, which no one speaks about, the company is under gelmon, this is confirmed by the transfer agent. The empire stock angle fell through, the agent said they never had anything to do with that company. (who knows he could be lying here but i doubt it with how much trouble they can get into). No one will talk about the 500million shares that just popped. You have to take the good with the bad when looking at something. We have found some loose ends and want it tied up. It would be great for the board and the stock in general if we could do that. Dont you think if people could see that those things are taken care of, the stock might fly. Until then everything that happens is lip service. As i have said many many times now, I AM STILL IN THIS STOCK, i think there is something here. I have said the DD has been AWESOME, which it has. All those links line up great! It is just that we need that last connection. The name change thing seems to be fluff right now. I have said for TD nothing has changed. OTCMarkets, where it matters, has not changed. Please, look at all sides. I think we all want this to succeed.
Heres some good news. the 9s are almost running out and we may see some movement up
So you agree then. The name and description has not changed. At least for TD.
Dragon Life Science Holdings, Inc. (f/k/a Novation Holdings, Inc.), through its business relationship with Yaoliu Health Technology (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd., is a holding company for businesses focused in US real estate development & finance, health care, agriculture, nutritional and pharmaceutical distribution, and commercial training. Dragon Life intends to focus on projects including, but not limited to, acquisition and development of real estate properties in the USA with emphasis in Assisted Living and Elderly Care, investments in research & development for life science nutritional products, investments in the development of modern agriculture in China, investments in information technology (IT) systems to support global distribution and logistics platforms of consumer products for industries such as Multilevel Network Marketing and e-Commerce, and development of an International Business Curriculum to bridge Chinese and American cultural & business practices.
That is from otcmarkets. That has been there since i started looking into this stock. Maybe a month a go.
I know for sure OTCMarkets had it like that for at least 2 weeks. I am almost positive since i first checked there a couple weeks ago its always said that. It also had the same description on td mobile. I just checked the profile on TD again and it think this is new
Dragon Life Science Holdings Group Inc. is engaged in the business of acquiring and managing operating companies, initially in the medical device development and production market, and subsequently in other healthcare, technology and similar markets. The Company is also focusing other related acquisitions in the Internet service provider (ISP) field, as well as in other market segments. The Company through its subsidiaries, Burgoyne Internet Services, Inc., a regional ISP and Novation Consulting Services, Inc., an administrative service company, provides management, administrative, financial and other support services.
I do not remember anything related to ISP?
Even if they are acting slow, they can say, our lawyer has reached out as of X date. You can expect official documents on X. I just want that final piece confirmed. Until we see it, for all we know, they abandoned noho as their go-to and are started another American company. I am still in this, I feel I need to stress that here, if I lost anything that doesn't fit the narrative, I get sidestepped or shunned. The DD has been awesome, the links are all there, but on the chinese side. We need that American connection confirmed.
Well, lets hope they post something today. On march 11th, they said they were going to have a lawyer submit something. It has been a week, so plenty of time. This is public record, if they did submit, so they can post something. If they dont post today, then it will be the longest drought since they started again on feb 22. I am pretty sure when i checked the post dates they never posted over the weekend as well
They don't see anything that can hurt the narrative. They won't take that pacific stock says gelmon is in control. They won't take that empire says they have nothing to do with dragon life holdings. I haven't exited. Until we can link NOHO with official documents to the chinese, in the current time, all the other links are moot.
At least for me Td had always shown this description. The name has also been Dragon when you clicked noho. It was 500million shares as well. Why does everyone dismiss that when brought up. I will say all these links are great. We need that final link of American Noho Confirmed as the holdings for dragon life
EDITED MESSAGE PLEASE READ: Can I ask what the most recent article we have posted about noho and it's connections. I know it takes a lot of time to develop the tech and product. Everything though is a year or older.
only have 6 mins to edit: just linking sites that have longpin in the name. dont have time to read before posting so maybe somehting is good here
https://k.sina.cn/article_6447970018_1805436e20010054kn.html
https://kknews.cc/zh-sg/finance/x3kj8vr.html
http://www.ynszhpbzjk.net/ysxw/26555.html
http://hebei.news.163.com/18/0525/14/DILJGE4304158VP5.html
I was thinking that before as well. The last time I went to the gnc page they were talking about the merger and what it would do for their shares. I'm kinda thinking noho will be a part of it somehow, but that angle doesn't seem right. Maybe noho is a holdings for the businesses that supply the ingredients?
almost up to 100mil on the bid, havent seen it that high since ive been in. Also our volume is about 1/3rd of what it usually is at this time. People not selling? hopefully means good news?
For right now 2:15 est looks like all MM
Bid
Inside
5
Shares
96095371
Size
Bid
50047611
CDEL
0.0008
22212499
ETRF
0.0008
16363593
CSTI
0.0008
4630168
GTSM
0.0008
2841500
NITE
0.0008
Ask
Inside
5
Shares
33911489
Ask
Size
0.001
14788033
CSTI
0.001
13764295
CDEL
0.001
2203660
GTSM
0.001
1870000
ETRF
0.001
1285501
NITE
.001
0.5
4000
OTCX
edited to put in that OTCX has it at .50 for the ask which they have for like over a month
Shit when I posted that there were 56 on ask. Wow they all went away or I misplaced a comma ha.
Yeah the asks are starting to build against the bid. Hopefully we can push this up to a nice green finish, with more tomorrow!
Yeah, i am really looking forward to what tomorrow brings, someone answered my question and the ruling does go into effect tonight at midnight, but also stated they still havent clarified how the MMs have to report the shorts.
I think its just MM manipulation, they do this every day. Whats interesting though is there are over 83mil bids right now. I think they want back in before the ruling goes out? I am not sure.
Does that SEC change happen today at midnight or after close tomorrow?
I am not a fake anything. If you all can't see the sketchyness in what happened, you got your blinders on. I have said in many posts I think the DD is great. I can also see the damage one person can do to a stock. I WILL STRESS AGAIN, I AM STILL IN THE STOCK. let's hope we get some good or this week, that can outweigh all the nonsense
Direct links. Make sure to show replies and show all replies.
It seems that I need to make a statement and submit it to the SEC at the same time. I will arrange a lawyer to handle it immediately.
— Dragon Cloud Technology Ecological Co., Ltd. (@dragon_holdings) March 11, 2021
Why should I prove it to you? funny
— Dragon Cloud Technology Ecological Co., Ltd. (@dragon_holdings) March 11, 2021
Imgur is not a meme maker and it's not a gif. Imgur is hosting platform for images. Wth are you even on about.
Art care to explain this, https://imgur.com/a/xtagysG
Geo the transfer agent I believe does that
Well guess they finally verified my account so I get 15 posts a day. I really hope the shares not getting updated doesn't have to do with the pressure pacifc stock is getting with not giving out info they are supposed to.
Thanks I will shoot another email to all three with a link to that doc that shows yan in control. I just got to find that again unless someone has it handy to post quick. Also I think this is my last post today so in the unlikely event they get back to me today, I can't post til tomorrow. Maybe I'll put it up on stocktwits if that happens.
Quick edit: the woman on the phone gave me the email address as @pacificstock.com maybe that's why my email went unheard. Though it maybe a good thing as I didn't post a link to the doc.
It's what the mms do. If you follow the level II trading all day you'll see them fo back and forth like this. If the buy in at .00011 then sell again at .00013 that's 100k profit at those shares. They do that a few times a day for a nice chunk of change. I hope whatever is happening on Friday stops that. Also they seem keen on keeping it above .00010 so maybe that's a good sign?
Geo if you can contact them and ask that would be great. After my initial phone call, where i got the email address, i have not been able to reach them at all. I know others have in the mean time though so maybe just bad luck on my part. I would some how show the document stating it and have them respond. Thats why i was really hopeful when i got the email for that danielleC@pacificstock.com. Thought i would be able to get to the bottom of it, but she has not responded.
Dab I called and I posted the number so anyone to call. I am not lying.7028185898. that is the number. They said they do not have dragon life holdings in their records. I also asked if they had any connection to novation holdings which I told them had pacific as a transfer agent. That's why they told the few others that pacific might help. Please call the number if you do not believe me. Do not just take a post at face value.
I guess i will use my last post now, because this is an important thing some are not grasping, but wouldn't the current transfer agent know something more than a document from 4 years ago? It could relate to the fact that Yan got screwed and did not receive those controlling shares. It does line up. I am editing to let you know that i am calling again, unfortunately it went to voice mail. I let them know about the document and am awaiting an answer. Hopefully they can shed light on it.
one more edit for geo. I did not post it on stocktwits. I did not on purpose as there are a lot of trolls there and i did not want them to take the info and run with it. I am not that rainbow person. If i post on stocktwits its nurgled1one
Elvis, if you have read my past posts i have also contacted Pacific. They have said that Gelmon is still in charge of the stock some how. They have told me there is no relation they can see to dragon life science or any dragon affiliate. I have listed the number for them as well. I also have emailed the person they told me to. DanielleC@pacificstock.com, Who might have more information. That was on friday and i have not recieved anything back from her as well. I contacted Empire as it was listed as the active agent on the DD from Opencoporate.com I am trying tie up loose ends so we can focus on getting something concrete that is recent.
Edit: Only have 1 post left so i am going to save it for if i find anything else out. If i do not reply to you now, i apologize in advance and will try to tomorrow or in my next post.
Ok I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I called the transfer agent listed with the dragon life holdings (I'll list the number at the end,) and they do not represent them. It is possible they are with another agent but they had no record for them. The agents info I got from the opencoporate link posted. The number for EMPIRE STOCK TRANSFER INC is (702) 818 5898. Once again I am in this stock. I believe the dd here is great but maybe this will lead us to something concrete that we can lost that no one can refute.
Geo I posted something about the company that it basically was dissolved in 2018 due to not filing reports. This was for florida. Art said what it meant though. I am just so confused. I think they got super screwed under trump. Hopefully doesn't take a long time to fix.
Edit: https://www.floridareg.com/company/P12000087826/dragon-life-science-holdings-group-inc
It's the admission for Dissolution part.
Art I was agreeing with it not discounting it. Now when I was trying to find any info on the company this is the latest thing I could find from 2018 if you scroll down. It states there was a Admin Dissolution For Annual Report. https://www.floridareg.com/company/P12000087826/dragon-life-science-holdings-group-inc. I think it means the company under gelmon is done but I honestly am not versed in this subject at all. If anyone can shed some light on what this means it would be greatly appreciated.
From 2017 https://sec.report/otc/financial-report/183671. I was the one who asked to find it. If you do a control f for yan you can see he is right. Really odd then when I called the transfer agent they said gelmon is in control? I'm still waiting for an email from the person I posted who is supposed to have more info.
Edit: quick edit since I don't get many posts a day. The guys post on stocktwits is now deleted? Odd again but he was right.