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OT...SK,
I can relate! Yesterday I had a trade go through with ST or LLEG I thought I had "cancelled" but I forgot to "refresh" my home page (browser?) which in reality was signed off due to inactivity and the trade went through anyway. Those commissions add up don't they!
Nez
Sage, IMO, very well said and in the words of another poster/investor-PATIENCE!
Patience is needed when watching something grow, like an investment in LLEG!
This Definition is the interpretation I am using. It works for me and IMO will also work with LLEG:
1. Capacity for waiting: the ability to endure waiting, delay, or provocation without becoming annoyed or upset or to persevere calmly.
JMO,
Nez
Don't know but there are no shares below which I have found yet. Really bad fishing today!
I've had orders in all morning with no takers. JMO but either no one is selling for a good reason or there are no more shares left that are not committed to some type of GTC trade.
JMO & guess I'll check back latter,
Nez
IMO the newspaper in the previous link I posted also provides some pretty good insight into the regular state of affairs in Berlin.
IMO well paying jobs can only help the area and IMO when a family is hurting they “flock” to the source for the best work and support better paying businesses interested in moving to the area. Without a good tax base (I know this is obvious) crime inevitably comes to town with a vengeance, at least that has been our experience here where I live and IMO the level of crime according to the news I have been reading from the area, indicates it is on the upswing. IMO, the best way to stop it is to try and attract new business to the area and that is what they are doing IMO. LLEG is offering good opportunities for everyone involved IMO.
JMO,
Nez
Here is the daily paper with Mike's letter. check page 4 and I suggest you view it @ 100%> so it loads faster.
JMO,
Nez
http://www.laconiadailysun.com/BerlinPDF/2008/5/7B.pdf
Is this NH legislation for governing the type of boiler LLEG plans to use in Berlin?
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2008/HB1405.html
IMO, I believe this and the boiler may be related but I'm not 100% sure so I ask.
JMO,
Nez
Thanks loggerman good article and the source is a keeper IMO!
Nez
IMO, it has been difficult over the past couple of weeks to sort thru the posts here due to the amount of repetitive posts but worded differently from the same people which IMO say basically the same thing.
I check this board as I have found some good sources for information from both perspectives.
However, IMO, one of the perspectives has become stuck on repetitive rhetoric and adds little or nothing to the knowledge base. To me anyway, it is like a "looped" tape recording with each week being a bit different that is until of late. Although I want to hear both sides the source of information I am referring the perspective that has given their "all." Since the point of view expressed by just five posters is pretty much the same (look at “the past 50 posts” under the profiles of the most frequent posters) I decided to use "iggy” 5 times and suddenly my screen is easier to read. For the longs seeking information, and this is just a suggestion “iggy” is a great filter since you just need to use it in 5 cases.
JMO but there are many other sources of DD out there.
As one poster says patience at this point makes the most sense. When there is news I am confident those with advanced DD skills will share it if we other less experienced miss it.
JMO,
Nez
OT
Brundy,
I just wanted to tell you I feel much more comfortable with your position as the way you are explaining things (to me anyway) "feels" much more sincere and respectful. Wouldn't it be a "hoot" if due to our changing the tone of our dialog and focused less on trying to sway one another, wouldn't be a
"hoot" if the resulting respectful and empathetic tone produced both proponents and opponents to begin allocating more brain energy towards finding common ground and as a result if actually happened?
The change of tone makes me feel less defensive.
I don't think this is so impossible as I bet if you look throughout the history of our country, many examples could be found where a solution was implemented, mutually gratifying for both sides, as a direct result of changing a debate from an adversarial nature to a more communal one? (I hate any words that begin with "comm"!)
There are no negative connotations here but each side should start preparing for the worst but hoping for the best and exhorting more effort to coming up with a way to co-exist with what ever unfolds. Sometimes it’s not what we say but how we say it that hinders others from listening in a constructive manner. Anything is possible in America!!
JMHO & GLTY,
Nez
OT
Trick,
What do you mean tI looked at the post and I didn't see any "ifs" used in it!:)
Being ignorant allows me the opportunity to make such a post and look foolish correct?
Nez
O.T.
I just signed in fast with my ticker and I can't believe I am reading the board or at least some on the board maintaining there is "dilution" going on correctly? Is it possible rather than dilutions which ever poster who referred to dilution maybe really meant "concentration?" I mean I only can see a volume of 120,000.
Wouldn't we see a much higher number if in fact there were more shares availible of judging from the small amount of traded shares could we entertain the idea the bulk of the stock is accounted for and being "tightly" held?" Just trying to get a handle on the "dilution" concept! Also, thanks in advance to any one who can enlighten me and please forgive me if I don't answer right off the bat as I have to get some feeling back to may arms!
TIA & JMO, TTYL,
Nez
JMO and a great example of my terrible recall,
Can any one either confirm or correct my misunderstanding I picked up in the past when I came across, at least twice to the best of my recollection, the state of Massachusetts being mentioned in the same writings (for lack of better recall and thus lack of a better way to refer to the "written" pieces) which also contained either together or separately, LLEG and HH and what I believe was the ticker of another company such as "ECO or ECHO" or something of that nature?
Does anyone know if I am talking about something very old or something which was just "kicked around" but never went further than discussion?
Does anyone know of any other sources of information or information about or which may have taken place in Massachusetts revolving around "electrical from Bio-mass. I think there is wind generation regarding electrical production, but I am asking about production via “Bio-mass" either in Massachusetts or else where in the extreme “north east?”
Anyone know if what I am referring to, IMO only, a general way of giving some examples of businesses willing to "go green?"
JMO and I am not implying of referring to anything is a certain sense other than my poor memory!
TIA,
Nez (can't post too much for a while with the weather and all)
JMO,
GP,
Be careful of the "Toxic Cleanup" solution the "state" used here in Bethelhem,PA. BLACK TOP, basically. There were supposed to be casinos on it but they ended up upsate from us.
Later all,
Nez
IMHO,
Trick47,
That’s what I understand the idea of a BB to be. If you could though as some of the readers, me for one, are a little limited with going through many posts and in my case it is even harder to type for any long period. (Quite o few of my posts went way over my comfort level (physical)
If I might suggest something all right? A few posts back penny2007 posted a specific, delineated and non repetitive set of ideas. That was so much easier for me to follow. I am not saying you shouldn't share information we can all get a go at but sometimes and it may be just me your posts come across as repetitive and "sharp edged." No offense as my probably come across as what they are stumbling, bumbling attempts to tie sometimes fragmented concepts together. I admit I have not been doing this long. At this point thought, from a broad read of today’s posts, IMO, many seem meaningless and the board IMO would be as well served by silence. JMO and I intend not to exasperate the situation with more posts for a time. I know I’m probably way past the point of sounding foolish!:)
YTTYL,
Nez
JMO
Hi Trick47,
I think it may be very possible. Although I don't know why some would would be motivated to do so aside from a competitor or LIKE I READ IN A "Dow Jones News Wire Coverage, Article by Jonathan Smith I believe 4/2/2008; In the third paragraph the piece sites an interview with HH Capitol Advisors President John Halle. Quote," ..the sale lease back structure of the agreement provided several advantages over traditional equity investing. "That's the only vehicle we understand and like and we use it in many other different asset classes," said Hall. "It bifurcates the tax equities, which the independent power producers have not appetite for, [and] it's a good way to define relationships between owners and operators."
IMO this is what I believe some one with the correct motivation would pay a person to try and pull a "FUBAR" on. IMO you seem not to be a person who enjoys building relationships on treating others as they want to be treated and I refuse to say you are simply this way. I know many people who get paid good money to type useful information and so pleasantly but I am baffled by the time you spend typing and producing what IMO is caustic communications. IMO it would however make perfect sense if you were trying to "stunt" …..”a good way to define a relationship."
I honestly believe with inexpensive stocks such as are found here, one person’s continuous, unrelenting approach can be effective sort of like we learned in Panama with Manuel and the effect of "blaringly loud,” nonstop rock, etc. music.
JMO and I honestly mean no offense. I don't know enough about the subject matter you address but only what I have found.
I do want to that you because when I do give you a bit of a read I least can say I have become aware of things which I wasn’t before reading some of your posts. Now I can practice tracking some information supporting or debunking same.
JMO & Thanks for the object lesson. I will let you know if I am successful or not and I really hope you don’t take this the wrong way as I really am not experienced enough to take anyone on. All I can do is attempt (when I can ) to find substantive information and let the information be seen,
TTYL,
Nez
Checked with pennies2007 and got permission to post the link to the chart
nez
"**L L E G Annotated Chart**
This one is building up some strength in the sideways channel that has formed. With a good volume day, it could pop. Need to see a close well above that top trend line to confirm a bullish move, preferably closing above the middle bollie."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=28840636&txt2find=lleg+
IMO &FWIW,
http://biopact.com/2008/02/laidlaw-energy-converts-old-paper-mill.html
I missed this one but IMO it may be interesting and informative for any "perspective" LLEG investors. The main reason I find this piece intriguing is the fact that in spite of the scope of the project, the "core" elements fit so neatly together. IMO, these are some of the more important issues that increase the feasibility of the plan, the 65 MW max. output, IMO, is a good example or evidence the planners responsible for putting this plan must have had a high level of input (at the very least, from people in the area to be able to so thoroughly assess the overall situation.) From what I have read on the board and else where there obviously is very passionate “opposition” out there but like many have said, until we know their agenda IMO anyway, the credibility of all opposition must be carefully considered. I believe there is a saying that passions run highest when one or both of two motives are involved; Love or Money. I am trying to keep in mind the possibility there are some out there who have much more to gain or lose than even the largest investor on this board. The fact 65 MW seems to IMO not hinder existing plans of operating or upgrading the transmission capability, in my mind this seems to be a fortuitous coincidence. The link I am posting although 2 months old, also seems to underscore the importance of the existing equipment not just from a value point but from the adaptability it possess to fit the specific needs for Berlin NH. I don't think I have read anywhere or seen discussed how once the existing Babcock & Wilcox boiler, which was installed in 1993 at a cost of nearly $100 million, may very well be actually worth more after the retrofit to the current state-of-the-art, low admission, advanced biomass combustion. ( not sure exactly what that means, but I do know when an existing product is upgraded the cost usually increases rather than decreasing. I know this to be true with A/C anyway).
There has to be a large number of high skill jobs required for such equipment but also it appears there is little about the rail access which may offer opportunities for cheap fuel from other regions (e.g., storm debris from the Southern U.S.).
I promise this is the last time I will bring this up but here in Bethlehem, had we the opportunity which Berlin has at the present IMO it would have been a no brainer choice rather than the choice we made. Like I said I realize this is two months old but as I am very weak in the financial analysis department I relate more to the physical, mechanical and job production perspective as that is how I think best at this point and from experience here in Bethlehem, PA those were the factors which ultimately cast the die for the shape of our future.
JMO, & Night all,
Nez
http://biopact.com/2008/02/laidlaw-energy-converts-old-paper-mill.html
IMO & O.T.
Bundy, the blog found at the link below, IMO indicates there may exist, a rather substantial level of frustration amongst the Incumbent’s constituency due to an apparent lack of implicit and vigorous opposition with regard to discouraging LLEG from attempting to work with Berlin.
What is your opinion about the tone of the following link?
The issues or stances found on the blog at the below link seems to be clear, IMO, anyway?
If there has been some change rendering the views expressed by the author of the piece found at the link below obsolete IMO it would behoove you to share such information as it would greatly enhance your credibility.
TIA and I’ll have to check back later as I have typed way to long,
JMO,
NEZ
http://2much2do4now.typepad.com/bytechew/2008/04/standing-tall-i.html
O.T. & IMO,
Bundy,
Would you please check out the links in this copy of a previous post I made and point out the facts which confirm your statements? If there is not enough information there I will be glad to search for additional information a bit latter. The body of the post and not the links are my opinion and my personal take on the links ONLY. I believe an example of one of the past projects of the company you mention is included. IMO, it is pretty clear even a smaller size of a project in NH or any of its past projects would/do not produce maximum capacity at a constant rate. This area of technology is not an area I have any expertise with.
JMO,
NEZ
copy of previous post I made
O.T. (sort of)
As “Noble” and its form of renewable energy has been mentioned numerous times on the board I ask, “How can a wind farm maybe 3 time the size of the one proposed for NH and which only created 150 CONSTUCTION jobs and generated a whooping 8 local permanent jobs at past locations and is also dependent on massive amounts of acreage be considered a better source for tax generation and job creation for Berlin than LLEG? Here are some links to information about “wind farms including Noble” mentioned in one of jonas’s links he posted. IMO these links provide views and information from the “proponents” point as well as from the “opponents” point, I hope!
Also in my opinion nothing I have yet to read presents the fit for Berlin LLEG offers. However, I am open to all information.
Good night all this should be some enlightening reading.
Nez
About Wind Turbines
http://www.macgen.com/windpower/windfarms/About_Wind_Turbines.html
Wind Farm Facts long term jobs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power#Direct_costs
http://www.res-americas.com/
National Wind Coordinating Committee
Wind Energy and Economic Development Workshop
and Work Group Meeting
FINAL AGENDA
http://www.nationalwind.org/events/economic/2001/agenda.pdf
Wind Farm Facts
http://www.kvnews.com/articles/2008/03/01/news/doc47c72e4796626180695070.txt
Some of the draw backs
http://www.friendsofthealleghenyfront.org/SchleedeSummary
How can a farm maybe 3 time the size of the one proposed for NH and which only created 150 CONSTUCTION jobs and generated a whooping 8 local permanent jobs…
JOB CREATION AND COMMUNITY SPENDING
The Wild Horse Wind Farm employed 250 construction workers, most from within Oregon and Washington and approximately
one-third from within rural central Washington counties. The wind farm will also create approximately
fourteen (14) permanent family-wage jobs for operations and maintenance.3 During construction, Horizon Wind Energy
and its contractors spent over $8.4 million in the local community during a twelve-month period on equipment
rental, salaries for local hires and other local purchases.4
http://www.poweringoregonsfuture.org/PoweringOregonsFuture
Man, that is an understatement, IMO!
TTYL,
Nez
O.T. rick, was there a pun intended? :) Once they get it it's full steam ahead!
LOL,
Nez
O.T.
Rich you signed up for I-Hub on 3/8/08.
38 days later the following (link courtesy of post # 29856, 1st link listed)
appeared, which IMO gives the impression the incumbents constituency was not happy with their elected officials vis a vie opposition to the LLEG/Berlin Project
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=28703601
and now you post just 3 days after the “byte&chew” piece the following links containing “clips” with the bold heading disclaimer;
“These recordings are not the official meeting minutes”
Link to site. http://berlinnhonline.com/council/audio.htm
Link to audio. http://www.zshare.net/audio/10917940cb757711/
rather than post the link to the site where the official minutes are found;
http://berlinnh.gov/Pages/BerlinNH_CouncilMinutes/
I assume you are trying to communicate to the world that in just 3 days!!!, the incumbent mayor and city council, whom in the past many relatively new posters to the board have claimed were elected for the main purpose of derailing the LLEG/Berlin Project, are now sudddenly convinced of the error of thier ways and flipped stances? Flipped from the stance depicted in the April 13, 2008 edition of the “byte&chew” which IMO portrayed the same officials as not living up to the wishes of its constituency, back to now following the directives of its constituency/LLEG opposition?!?
Forgive me if I come across as a bit incredulous but is this what you are actually trying to tell us?
If so why not save us some trouble and just direct us to the City’s Home page link (see above, 4th link listed) in order to save the time of downloading mp3 players etc.?
Is there something we can see only in a video or hear in an audio clip which we would miss by reading the minutes by clicking on the “click here” point under the bold, red letter disclaimer?
I am just wondering why all the trouble and extra steps when we can go straight to the published minutes of a verifiable source?
As I said, forgive me if I sound incredulous about the council’s sudden change but all of this leaves me confused and feeling suspicious of the opposition’s agenda.
TIA for your answers and I mean no disrespect,
Nez
I apologize for any tyos and if they are pointed out to me I will gladly correct them.
O.T. My simple uncluttered mind is wondering why after positive posts from obvious LLEG investors are made, opponents show up on the same public BB dedicated to a company which the opponents maintain has no chance and continue to spend time and effort to convince others of something they already feel is over and done. I have to wonder why.
I then notice the pps is declining judging by T&S of LEGG due to relatively small amounts of shares being sold. Again, judging by the T&S of today’s LLEG trades,
I have to ask in my simple, uninformed way, if this could be an attempt to create a false impression the mega longs of LLEG are beginning to have doubts? Now if the pps were being intentionally lowered by people who are selling at a small loss to give an impression of weakness or lack of confidence existing in the minds of the LLEG investors who really matter, the mega longs, then isn't it reasonable to consider the people in opposition to the LLEG/Berlin project might be willing to suffer such small losses after everything else they have tried in an effort to undermine LLEG has failed? I realize this may sound and may well be a paranoid, conspiracy theory but from the little I have seen and in light of the differences between investing and trading which have been clearly articulated and highlighted by other posters, could this be some sort of "plan B" activation to undermine LLEG/Berlin project in lite of non money losing plans failing?
I don't know to what lengths opponents of an investment project might go but in the world of politics I think we are all aware of this type of Machiavellian tactic being used both in the past and present. From my point of view this investment is BOTH financial and political
I would not be willing to embarrass myself making such a post if I haven’t witnessed over the past few weeks and months, what IMO are actions of a group of desperate people who seem to have apparently allowed their chance to derail the “project” by using the proper channels to expire and are now trying to do so by any means possible. I count, to the best of my ability under 30 trades made so far today ( as of 1225 EST) and they appear to be small and relatively ineffective in lowering the pps drastically.
I know this is going to in all likely hood cause me to be further “ignored,”(heck I would put myself on ignore if I was reading posts like this from someone else) but to turn a phrase, “I will feel unloaded” as I voice my questions.
GLTYA,
Nez
Matilda,
Your post IMO is point blank right on. Especially; "Mike is in the right place at the right time, and he has got his ducks in line."
I also agree with this segment of your post.
"I think Brungy and company should be banned, because they have proved themselves to be bashers, un-willing and unable to substantiate any of their claims. IMHO they a paid bashers with an agenda."
GLTY,Nez
OT -Thank you PC gods for allowing sage to get his post out before "crashing his PC!"
Nez
Sageofflorida,
Thank you for your thoughtfulness, time/work you expended gathering this information. It is information which makes quite a bit of sense and reinforces my own meager DD. I was beginning to think I was in another world as I read all the "uninformed views" for which I could find no substantiation.
Thanks again as now I too am a relaxed investor albeit a tiny one!
Nez
O.T. (sort of)
As “Noble” and its form of renewable energy has been mentioned numerous times on the board I ask, “How can a wind farm maybe 3 time the size of the one proposed for NH and which only created 150 CONSTUCTION jobs and generated a whooping 8 local permanent jobs at past locations and is also dependent on massive amounts of acreage be considered a better source for tax generation and job creation for Berlin than LLEG? Here are some links to information about “wind farms including Noble” mentioned in one of jonas’s links he posted. IMO these links provide views and information from the “proponents” point as well as from the “opponents” point, I hope!
Also in my opinion nothing I have yet to read presents the fit for Berlin LLEG offers. However, I am open to all information.
Good night all this should be some enlightening reading.
Nez
About Wind Turbines
http://www.macgen.com/windpower/windfarms/About_Wind_Turbines.html
Wind Farm Facts long term jobs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power#Direct_costs
http://www.res-americas.com/
National Wind Coordinating Committee
Wind Energy and Economic Development Workshop
and Work Group Meeting
FINAL AGENDA
http://www.nationalwind.org/events/economic/2001/agenda.pdf
Wind Farm Facts
http://www.kvnews.com/articles/2008/03/01/news/doc47c72e4796626180695070.txt
Some of the draw backs
http://www.friendsofthealleghenyfront.org/SchleedeSummary
How can a farm maybe 3 time the size of the one proposed for NH and which only created 150 CONSTUCTION jobs and generated a whooping 8 local permanent jobs…
JOB CREATION AND COMMUNITY SPENDING
The Wild Horse Wind Farm employed 250 construction workers, most from within Oregon and Washington and approximately
one-third from within rural central Washington counties. The wind farm will also create approximately
fourteen (14) permanent family-wage jobs for operations and maintenance.3 During construction, Horizon Wind Energy
and its contractors spent over $8.4 million in the local community during a twelve-month period on equipment
rental, salaries for local hires and other local purchases.4
http://www.poweringoregonsfuture.org/PoweringOregonsFuture
O.T. (sort of) to noload,
Pastor,
I too am trying to make others aware of the consequences making a wrong choice will likely cause them. I am doing so based on my own up close and personal experience. Of course I am not referring to investors who know the risks associated with investing as investors for the most part appreciate these risks. Rather, I am speaking about and IMO, the risks to the long term security and prosperity of Berlin NH in the event Berlin chooses not to take advantage of the opportunity LLEG represents for Berlin.
You see I am from Bethlehem PA. We suffered a situation similar to that which Berlin is struggling with. However, we already have made a choice. Unfortunately for our town, we didn’t have the options, available to us Berlin currently enjoys. As a result, Bethlehem residents here lacking alternatives such as those Berlin has, chose to adopt the "tourism/public use/high tech mfg/gambling solution presented to us mainly by the large, commercial, organized gambling industry in concert with local, state and federal politicians.
At present we are reaping the negative results of our choice.
As a pastor I am sure you are aware of the downside and negative effects legalized gambling has been show/proven to have on a community.
I assume you feel the same about "unloading your conscience" with regard to choosing one of the more attractive appearing alternatives to working with LLEG, which judging from what happened in the town I am from, will be presented to the citizens of Berlin as well as the city council by highly motivated and well trained marketing experts in the most attractive way imaginable. IMO this is happening right now or will be soon and the source will be from the same large, commercial, organized gambling industry and politicos which I mentioned earlier.
As a pastor, I know you appreciate the weight and authority your opinion projects with not just members of your congregation but also the citizens of Berlin who may not be members.
I assume your intentions are well meaning and as such I assume you are making your opinions well known locally and they are being equally voiced about the down side of the gambling/tourism industry just like you are doing here in this much more limited forum.
If I may make one other observation and impress on you with all due respect, the concept that when you post on a board such as this you are speaking for the most part to people interested in investing as well as opponents who are already aware of that which you presented here. I know this probably goes without saying but just in case you are not as familiar with the intent of BBs like this, as those who made you aware of this forum are, this is the way it is with public BBs intended for use by mainly investors. Sorry if this is not as well written as it might have been as I obviously don’t have a background from academia.
Sincerely, with all due respect as well as thanks for your service to the church,
Nez
Also as an aside, I applaud your courage speaking to this forum while holding the place of respect which you do.
O.T.Pastor and I address you as such with sincere respect, as soon as I get back from collecting the kids from school I will reply to your post. Thank you for your time and well worded effort.
TTYL,
Nez
O.T.dmchas, great analogy!
Nez
O.T.,
dmchas, I have found almost the same thing. I wonder, since these "opponents" who seem so desperate to shake confidence in LLEG, are not standing under the "LLEG share tree" catching any shares "shaken lose" from the weaker hands.
All as part of thier premeditated effort designed, to add credence to the illusion and appearance, the opposition to LLEG is larger than it actually is. Thus we see them selling as low as possible and on the bid, whenever the pps begins to rise. IMO, this may be the method to thier madness; which is driving the opponents of LLEG/Berlin to attempt to make things appear to be something other than they are. IMO, there is a distinct probability the reality is that LLEG and Berlin are just taking the time to make sure ALL t's are crossed and i's are dotted in an especially careful manner.
I am just wondering out loud.
Nez
Sage, you're observations are intriguing! I got another group at .0016! IMO since the money in pinks (for me anyway) is "gambling money" I am happy to take what I can as IMO this is far from as risky as Black Jack because one can do DD!
Nez
O.T.
Hi noload,
If I may ask, "why are you, honestly, interested in a group of speculative investors like we who have invested in LLEG? Are you trying to save us from ourselves? What is you're agenda? If you feel LLEG is not what it purports to be then wouldn't you be better served taking the matter up with the SEC of some other regulatory body as there is nothing this board can do other than DD on LLEG and please realize IMO those who have done so, IMO, have decided LLEG to be a worth while investment.
As you alluded to the truth, then let the truth be told. Please tell us why you are using this forum rather than a “more official one” to convince people their DD and subsequent judgment is wrong? If what you say is true and there are not other things happening behind the scenes that are part of a much wider picture and which will lead to the success of LLEG, wouldn’t it be prudent on your part to e-mail your concerns to an entity that has some control over the matter rather than posting your concerns on a public BB? Just wondering and thanks for your time and future reply about your intentions.
TIA,
Nez
IMO, since the opponents of LLEG/Berlin project are absolutely sure as this post claims
Not just Katie, but 75% of the local residents want the remaining stack & boiler removed. By the way, a new City master plan is being completed and a survey was just issued to a random selection of local residents (including myself). One of the questions is specifically related to the re-use of the mill site and whether or not we prefer to see Biomass there. When the results are released I'll be back to post them on this board so that you can see that the residents of Berlin don't want Biomass in downtown. Not that it matters, because LLEG doesn't have the ability to make it happen anyhow. Bartosek is only good at PR, not at earning money. The site will remain dormant for many, many years (unfortunately)
Why are they still here? IMO they are not simply intent about rendering the “down town site dormant for many years” but they also seem to have an underlying agenda to sabotage LLEG by influencing LLEG's mega share holders. It also seems to accomplish this they are buying on the dips and selling at the bid in order to further the illusion the longs of LLEG are invested in a company that is phony.
Why are so-called local resident/opponents of LLEG and the downtown site so vehemently motivated? IMO they are desperately hoping to shake the confidence of the longs and open the door for their agendas ? Is it possible they represent a LLEG competitor or that they stand to make large financial gains of their own?
AGAIN IF THEY ARE SO CERTAIN OF VICTORY (for their side) WHY BOTHER TO INCESSANTLY CONTINUE POSTING? IS IT FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO SHAKE THE GRANITE LIKE CONFIDENCE OF LONGS AND DISCOURAGE ANY OTHERS FROM INVESTING IN A WINNER?
IMO, the opposition’s actions and statements make the most sense if viewed with the assumption they don't really care about the downtown site or the town of Berlin in general aside from how they can profit if LLEG is taken out of the picture. The real answer, IMO, will be found in the opposition’s true identity and their agenda.
All JMHO and musings,
Nez
Before I leave for the weekend, just one observation;
"If the attempts by opponents of LLEG to sway peoples opinions about the feasibility of LLEG and Berlin conducting mutually beneficial business and the opposition is founded on facts, where is all the solid, verifiable information or at least information others where willing to publish?
JMO and have a good weekend all,
Nez
Thanks Howard,
I came across some information, (I don't have at hand but will get it as soon as I get a chance) Noble was 100+ while the numbers I saw for LEGG were in alignment with yours. Glad to see the numbers are consistent.
Thanks,
Nez
Bundy,
I am/was under the impression Noble required a much large transmission conduit than most other electrical generators as they have a much greater output? I certainly thought they needed more transmission capability than LLEG/Berlin project. I have covered a lot of other ground doing research so far and I haven't delved into this end of it for that reason but a larger reason for my neglect is mainly, I am not an electrical engineer. If you could help me out (in layman terms) about the transmission differences between Noble and its competitors especially LLEG I would appreciate it.
TIA,
Nez
Brungy,
JMO, but if there is that much of a "transmission" problem, why would they be open to ANY applications? IMO they realize drastic times require drastic actions and if that means changing the application process from "first come first served" as it seems to have traditionally been, to "first served is the one which offer to benefit the most people in the fastest, long term, expandable and environmentally friendly manner available," especially in light of the times.
Again JMO but to do anything different would be sort of like telling a soldier shot in the field "you have to await treatment as this other man with the splinter is cleaner and we don't have to waste time cleaning him up." Poor analogy but I think you get my point.
JMO,
nez
The following link, "The Defeat of SN Bill 306" addresses an alternative plan for the boiler site in Berlin.
IMO and as a non-resident of Berlin, I thought this plan may have had the most potential of all the alternate plans I am so far aware of, to the Berlin/LLEG project.
Apparently some in opposition to the Berlin/LLEG project were counting on a combination of casino gambling coupled with tourism attractions, high tech mfg. and also a type of residential use area such as a park/bike/ATV facility and foot path etc.
However in spite of the Berlin City Council support for Senate Bill 306 by a vote of 8-1 early this year, the bill suffered defeat. After reading the following link as well as the comments and reply’s button (identified with the cartoon character word balloon) I feel more confident than ever the Berlin/LLEG project to revitalize Berlin is still on the front burner also IMO, makes the most sense for the situation. Please check out the site, revisit the Berlin Home page site and go through all the links including planning board and city council minutes and agendas. I have some other links if anyone is interested (pretty dry reading). I am interested to learn if there are any other viable plans out there and if anyone finds any drop me a PM.
Inclosing, when you read the link you will see referenced something called “The Sands Bethworks project.” Just as a foot note, this refers to the town I live in and only 2 miles from the site. The article at the link I supply contains IMO, inaccuracies about that project's current effect on our towns. Although it has nothing to do with Berlin it is used as an illustration or example and as such anyone interested in the inaccuracies can PM me. I honestly don’t want to see Berlin find itself in the situation we in Bethlehem, Easton and Allentown (yes the same as Billy Joel’s song “Living here in Allentown!), now find ourselves. Many here in the Easton, Bethlehem, Allentown area would have been very grateful to have had the opportunity or alternative, LLEG is offering Berlin.
JMO, and I'll check back hopefully today,
Thanks,
Nez
Scroll to the end to see the article of which I speak and don’t forget the 12 or so comments!
http://www.nhinsider.com/steven-j-connolly
The Berlin City Home page:
http://www.berlinnh.gov/Pages/index