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"The MP-3 Changer also introduces the first ever (Patent Pending) Write Behind capability for post signal music/information capture."
What is your point, everytime I read this it makes perfect
sense.
I do know what you mean, believe me.
I can't see EDIG not protecting that tech -
they are applying for new patents. I can't
believe they would let that tech fall by
the wayside. just offered some ideas about
what could be happening. I too would like to
be sure. If I did ask RP, I probably would
get the same answer you have.
from DB also: I understand that EDIG is applying for new patents -
could be under law that if they can verify that tech
was theirs at the CES 2000 time frame that applying
for the patent is just a formality - no urgency -
not necessary - not required - sort of like copyrights
- I've seen that with copyrights - If you have a way to
protect your IP without the patent pending, it would be
your choice when you apply. I'm sure EDIG would want their
property protected adequately.
So then CES 2000 - the tech that was introduced as
"write behind " was first ever . You may want to
read the previous post on that matter.
You should have seen this reply to you from DB @ 3:47
torf, RP stated in an recent email that the "WRITE BEHIND" technology belongs to e.Digital...but you knew that.
The company's CES 2002 PR, when they first introduced the ECLIPSE product to the industry, clearly states that the technology is PATENT PENDING.
E.DIGITAL KICKS OFF 2002 WITH NEW DIGITAL MUSIC PLAYERS AND FIRST AUTOMOTIVE PRODUCT AT CES JANUARY 8 - 11
Unique VoiceNavTM Speech Recognition Interface and Other Features Highlighted in Branded e.Digital MP3 Players and New Designs for OEMs
(LAS VEGAS, NV - January 8, 2002) - e.Digital Corporation (OTC: EDIG), a global provider of comprehensive digital product development and designs, announced that its product lineup at the 2002 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) will include all of its branded digital music players as well as some designs licensed or available for licensing by OEM customers.
The company’s first branded consumer product, the MXPTM 100 digital music and voice player/recorder, will be joined by the new MXP 100 Sport version. MXP 100, with e.Digital’s VoiceNav technology, is the first portable digital product ever equipped with a user-independent speech recognition interface. Users just say the title of their favorite song to navigate through their portable music library. Boasting battery life of over 12 hours per charge, both MXP 100 models support the removable IBM Microdrive, with storage capacities of up to 1 gigabyte (GB), allowing consumers to store up to 32 hours of music and voice in a sleek, ultra-portable design.
e.Digital’s TREÓTM 10, a 10 GB hard-disk-drive (HDD) based portable jukebox holding over 3,000 songs, will be available for hands-on demonstrations. Its Smart Song SelectionTM feature lets user scroll easily through tracks on an easy-to-read, backlit LCD screen while music is playing. With battery life of nearly 10 hours and a stylish brushed aluminum case, TREÓ 10 is the sophisticated digital music fan’s choice to hold and play the music collection of a lifetime.
The Classic XP3 e.Digital-powered jukebox product from Musical Electronics, Ltd., features the ability to encode music directly from any audio source into MP3 files, bypassing the need for a PC to perform digital compression. The Classic XP3 also features a 10 GB capacity HDD, superior sound quality, and support for both MP3 and Windows MediaTM file formats. The Classic XP3 is field upgradeable to support other popular formats as they become available.
e.Digital is scheduled to unveil a new automotive stereo product based on the company’s MicroOSTM 2.0 technology. The compact HDD-based design is the core of a complete, integrated automotive infotainment system developed with Eclipse by Fujitsu Ten and licensed for sale under the Eclipse brand name. Known as the MP-3 Changer, the system uses e.Digital’s VoiceNav speech recognition interface to simplify use and promote safe operation while driving. The MP-3 Changer also introduces the first ever (Patent Pending) Write Behind capability for post signal music/information capture.
DataPlay-enabled digital music players designed by e.Digital will be on display. Various designs compatible with DataPlay’s new 500 MB-capacity removable digital media are available for licensing by OEM customers. One DataPlay-enabled portable music player scheduled to be shown is a joint development between e.Digital and Evolution Technologies and is licensed for sale by MTV: Music Television. It will be unveiled in the Evolution booth #13432 in the MP3 Pavilion during the show.
e.Digital will also be previewing the ultra-compact "Renegade". Designed for retail sale, this tiny-but-powerful MP3 player includes 64 MB of embedded storage capacity and an expandable Multimedia Card slot that can hold up to 128 MB more. Interchangeable rubberized faceplates in up to six different colors will be included, allowing user personalization.
During CES in Las Vegas January 8-11, e.Digital is exhibiting in the Las Vegas Convention Center, South 3-4, booth #13338. Additional demonstrations of e.Digital technology and products are scheduled to take place in technology suites and booths of partners and OEM customers during the week.
"Don't you think that e.Digital and those making all of these claims about "Write behind" should produce the patent application number? "
Does Law require that they produce the patent app number?
because you didn't find the information,does this mean
it does not exist?
I don't think so - that was introduced at
CES 2000 I believe - I'll try to confirm that.
owd3 I too find it interesting that your
behaviour is much improved when you are posting
on IHUB vs "that other board" where you
usually are uncontrollable - some of my posts here
get deleted too but I don't get upset - trust me
it will make a better person of you.
The MP-3 Changer also introduces the first ever (Patent Pending) Write Behind capability for post signal music/information capture
e.Digital is scheduled to unveil a new automotive stereo product based on the company’s MicroOSTM 2.0 technology. The compact HDD-based design is the core of a complete, integrated automotive infotainment system developed with Eclipse by Fujitsu Ten and licensed for sale under the Eclipse brand name. Known as the MP-3 Changer, the system uses e.Digital’s VoiceNav speech recognition interface to simplify use and promote safe operation while driving. The MP-3 Changer also introduces the first ever (Patent Pending) Write Behind capability for post signal music/information capture.
you would never know why if you don't ...
"I personally review the critics prior to going . "
you need a critic to tell you what's good
that tells me all I want to know -
BTW: you could walk out of movie if you don't like it.
make a market is what they do - no question
we could just leave it at that ...
t;hey go up when they're not worth much also -
have you noticed that? - what's that worth
"if people are willing to buy at higher levels the bid will come up regardless of the mms."
MO - true - but not regardless of the mms - depends on their objective. they still set the pps - .
"What reason would market makers have to keep the price down? Dont tell me accumulation either."
Why not accumulation - if that is their objective
You're right - if they don't want to hold the stock they
won't accumulate.
If their objective is higher prices - they will accumulate within a range - common sense (to them) - wouldn't you buy and accumulate if you knew your objective was higher prices.
trouble is we never really know what their objective is - so it will always appear to be a mystery.
confusion may be coming from the people that
tell other people that they can't see when
they really don't want to hear it over and
over and over and over again - listen up
we already know this is high risk, we choose to
to stay in this stock because WE WANT TO -
please stop trying to save us from ourselves
and take good care of yourself.
fred they control pps up or down - why is that so hard
to believe for most people - and it's legal and written
in an SEC document -
It was marked OT: so you could have made
the choice to ignore it -
OT: How does Truth Or Fiction really work?
A Spielberg in your own mind
A false-memory detector remains theoretically possible
By Jessica Snyder Sachs
Popular Science
Friday, July 25, 2003 Posted: 10:27 AM EDT (1427 GMT)
SEEKING TRUTH
In 2001, Harvard neuropsychologist Daniel Schacter found that an obscure part of the brain known as the parahippocampal gyrus does, in fact, light up for true but not false memories. The work remains preliminary, but it suggests that a false-memory detector remains possible.
(Popular Science) -- Sitting in her office at Claremont Graduate University in California, cognitive psychologist Kathy Pezdek flips open a case file for an upcoming homicide trial -- a drive-by shooting in which the victim's girlfriend will take the stand to identify the accused.
The defense has retained Pezdek as an expert on the reliability of eyewitness memory.
"For starters," says Pezdek, "I see here that the first time the girlfriend talks to the police, she tells them, 'I didn't actually see the guy's face.' "
That's a problem for the prosecution, obviously. Within hours of the crime, however, police pull someone off the street, stick him in a squad car and show him to the witness. "It could be him," the girlfriend says.
Two days later, she views a photo lineup. "Of course," says Pezdek, "she picks out the only guy who would look familiar to her." It's the man she saw in the police cruiser. "And the police tell her, 'Yeah, you picked the right guy.' "
Pezdek has no doubt that, with coaching, the prosecution will have a confident eyewitness on the stand. "Problem is, the jury hasn't seen her progression from 'I never saw his face,' to 'it could be him' to 'yes, I'm sure.' "
In other words, the prosecution will present to the jury a fine courtroom drama, sans the editing job that produced the final cut.
Memories like video
Our memories are, to some degree, like a final-cut videotape: Research confirms that each of us continually edits and splices recollections, replacing one "picture" with another, sometimes with a little outside assistance. "Memory is a creative event, born anew every day," says Elizabeth Loftus, a University of California, Irvine, psychologist who is a leading expert on the malleability of eyewitness testimony. "You fill in the holes every time you reconstruct an event in your own mind."
A decade of intensive research has taught Loftus and her colleagues how easy it is to plant false memories. In experiments, they've demonstrated that few people, if any, can reliably distinguish between memories of something they've been shown and something they've been asked to imagine.
The trick works on the public at large too. Forensic psychologists weren't surprised that what seemed to be a mass hallucination followed the first D.C. sniper shootings last fall. Jumpy residents jammed the FBI's hotline with recollections of white vans and box trucks brimming with guns. All it took to set the editing rooms working were news reports of such a vehicle seen speeding away from an attack.
Not that prompting is even necessary. According to memory-reconstruction expert Charles Weaver at Baylor University, we tend to alter a few details of memory with every early replay. Moreover, the retouch job of a vivid imagination can come across as far more compelling than the washed-out "first take" of our physical senses.
"Eventually, people seem to get their personal story together and stick by it," says Weaver. "But in essence, they've created a memory after the fact." Weaver's studies also show that people tend to become more confident each time they repeat their story. Hence, lawyers prep eyewitnesses: Rehearsal leads to testimony uttered with useful confidence. Throw in a few leading questions, and you have a polished, custom-edited eyewitness account.
A few weeks after September 11, 2001, Pezdek and Weaver began asking hundreds of college students to recall what they saw and felt on the day of the terrorist attacks. More than 70 percent remembered seeing footage of the first plane striking the World Trade Center. Many recalled feeling rage toward Osama bin Laden. In fact, neither the footage of the first plane nor hints of al Qaeda's involvement became available until the day after the attacks. So much for the idea that traumatic events sear "flashbulb memories" into the circuitry. Our brains process and edit trauma just like everything else.
Patching the memories
In some ways, though, the analogy to video replay can be dangerously inaccurate, as it suggests a library of retrievable, real footage. "Unfortunately, that's just how people tend to think of memory," says Loftus, "that we all have these videotapes of events stored somewhere in the brain if only we can find them." In fact, we assemble our memories by patching together broken pieces of stored information and then filling in the blanks.
One has only to view a brain-wave animation of a person viewing a familiar face to see what Loftus means. The act of remembering that face produces a flickering aurora borealis of electrical activity as the brain tries to assemble disparate bits of information pulled from every lobe of the cerebral cortex rather than a single storage place.
Most sensory information never really moves into storage at all. Like shapes drawn with a flashlight in the night air, the great mass of input from our eyes and ears fades almost immediately. Actively paying attention can buy you another 15 to 20 seconds of accurate recall by moving sensory input into short-term memory. Language appears to play a crucial role in moving memory into long-term storage, which is why the socially adept repeat the names of those they've just met. Without the "translation" of language, bits and fragments of input may make it into storage, but pulling those bits together for, say, testimony at a trial may prove problematic. When the brain can't find an intact memory, it does the next best thing -- it builds one.
The terrible uncertainty of eyewitness accounts raises the question of whether science can develop a hard-wired assist for the wetware between our ears -- a machine to sort false memories from real. Recent brain-scanning data suggest it may be possible, but tricky.
Hope of a false-memory detector
For years, neuroscientists trained scalp electrodes and imaging machines on the hippocampus, a small lump of gray matter deep in the brain. Known to be a memory center, the hippocampus lights up in brain scans when people look at something new or later try to remember its appearance. Early efforts centered on the hope that accurate recollections would trigger more activity in the hippocampus than would false ones, but researchers discovered that an implanted false memory was indistinguishable from a true one.
Then, in 2001, Harvard neuropsychologist Daniel Schacter found that an obscure part of the brain known as the parahippocampal gyrus does, in fact, light up for true but not false memories. The work remains preliminary, but it suggests that a false-memory detector remains at least theoretically possible.
Meanwhile, juries weighing eyewitness testimony may do well to stop by the local art-house cinema for a group viewing of Rashomon.
"Hiding behind a veil of "no one else is doing it", does not keep you in business long (unless you sell shelf stock)."
If you are not comfortable with your investment, why
do you keep your shares?
Was that an answer ? You seem to think so.
It was another accusation of wrong doing by EDIG,
I don't believe there is enough power on
all the boards together to influence the price of
this or any other stock - not possible -
I see many CE products with the same features -
when any MFG claims a feature on their product
that is the same as anothers is that Pumpage?
let's see - two diff VCRs have their clocks
set by satellite so owd3 doesn't have to do it -
both MFGs claim they have the feature.
WHICH MFG IS DOING THE PUMPING? lol
Sorry you thought every one had to come to EDIG
for this technology - Did anyone else think that?
Fred does anyone really know if those investors sold their
shares at that particular time?
Volume and rise in share price go hand in hand with any issue, not just EDIG - and Volume and decline in share price are related similiarly.
also a very polite version
she did qualify that one with a
"Personally, I think" LOL
ooooh nice one owd3 ... get those jabs in
at least he qualified his other posts with
a "maybe" or "could have been" - very solid
appraisals - yes indeedy - delete this post too
(along with his)
Venture firms develop coin-sized MP3 player
Two local venture firms announced yesterday that they succeeded in developing the world's smallest and lightest MP3 player, a breakthrough that highlights yet again this nation's prowess in the newly emerging portable device industry.
Station Z and Eratech Co., two small venture firms that specialize in making MP3 players, unveiled the coin-sized MP3 player named EMP-Z, which will enter into mass production beginning early next month.
The EMP-Z model boasts the smallest size of anmy MP3 player, 42mm in diameter and 10 mm in thickness, resembling, at a glance, a 500 won coin. Its weight of 15 grams is lighter than that of two 500 won coins put together, according to the companies.
Excluding the embedded rechargeable batteries, the MP3 players will weigh less, about half of the weight of the current lightest models in the market, the companies said.
In order to reduce both the size and weight of the device, the two companies have focused on "slimming down" by getting rid of non-core functions such as voice recording. Moreover, they combined the USB port and the earphone jack in an effort to simplify the device.
Through the combined port, users can download music files, mostly in the form of MP3s, and recharge the embedded batteries at the same time. In addition, like other MP3 devices, the new model can also serve as a portable data storage device, the companies explained.
"We expect the sales of the new MP3 player model in local markets alone to reach 10,000 units a month once the product hits the market," Kim Kyeung-yong, president of Eratech, forecasted. "The combined sales in foreign markets such as Japan, China, the United States and European nations are also expected to be brisk, exceeding 20,000 units a month,"
The two venture companies are planning to supply the jointly-developed product to Japan under the brand name of TDK and to Germany through distributor dnt, in an effort to capitalize on those firms' their brand power, which is already entrenched in the local markets, officials of the companies said.
(kokobj74@heraldm.com)
By Koh Byung-joon
2003.07.22
Toshiba launches SD card-based DRM system
EE Times Online - 16 hours ago
has announced that they have developed a digital rights management (DRM) system
that supports safe, secure distribution of digital book content, including ...
http://www.eetasia.com/login.php?type=ART&jumpvalue=8800312664&refilljp=%2FRR_curart.php3%3F...
SAN JOSE, California (AP) -- It's like a shotgun marriage gone oddly harmonious: Hollywood and the consumer electronics industry are now working closer together after a few years of claws-out antagonism in courtrooms and on Capitol Hill.
It could be the tough economic times or a distaste for further legal showdowns, but many top gadget makers are now trying hard to please the purveyors of entertainment.
More often than not, that is giving Hollywood's copy-protection interests a virtual seat at the product design table.
"Without good content there, my products are nothing but furniture or art. So it all falls back on what Hollywood is comfortable with," said Chris Cudina, national sales and marketing manager for Samsung's digital set-top box group.
Others contend that such coziness sometimes deprives consumers of flexibility -- or worse, privacy rights and civil liberties -- as entertainment companies exert control over how people use creative works gone digital.
Consider how one-time rebel ReplayTV backed down. The tech company's new owners said last month that its upcoming digital video recorders will no longer allow people to automatically skip ads or share shows over the Internet.
Those features on previous models rattled Hollywood, which fears the Napsterization of television programming and contends that the loss of commercial viewership would kill television's bread-and-butter.
In true form, 28 studios sued ReplayTV's previous owner, SONICblue, forcing the struggling consumer electronics company to pay millions of dollars in legal fees.
SONICblue sank. It filed for bankruptcy in March and sold ReplayTV to another electronics company, D&M Holdings, effectively making the copyright-infringement lawsuit moot.
ReplayTV's president, Jim Hollingsworth, called cooperation with Hollywood the best approach to bringing digital video recording technology to market. "You look for complementary solutions rather than riding roughshod," he said.
D&M's technology adviser Tom McCarthy does not think consumers will lose out: "We'll be in belt and suspenders, but it'll be done in a way where the consumer will feel they can still keep up with their digital lifestyle."
ReplayTV's startup rival, TiVo, has deliberately tried to avoid rankling Tinseltown.
TiVo even recruited a TV network veteran to preach to Hollywood the potential benefits of the disruptive technology that lets consumers record programming onto a hard disk and pause or fast-foward through live television.
"We go to significant lengths to make sure that we stay on the good side of the networks," said Martin J. Yudkovitz, who left his post as NBC's executive vice president to become TiVo's president in April. He said TiVo has stayed away from any file-sharing over the Net or automatic ad-zapping features.
"At first, when the DVR technology came out, there was a near universal gagging from the networks and the advertisers," said Yudkovitz. "Now TiVo is earning a good-guy image."
Spokesman Keith Cocozza of Time Warner Cable -- the first U.S. cable operator to introduce a digital video recorder-equipped cable box -- said a delicate balancing act is involved. The cable company is a division of AOL Time Warner, CNN's parent company.
"We want to deliver to customers services they want," he said. "But at the same time, we need our content and vending partners, and we need to respect and protect their rights."
To avoid conflict with Hollywood, Nokia recently added copy-protection technology to its toolkit for developers building mobile phone Internet applications.
It's a pre-emptive move as cell phones are increasingly becoming vehicles for data, ranging from snapshots to branded entertainment -- such as music video clips.
As they introduce such products as PCs with TV tuners and digital media receivers that let consumers store recorded digital video, many device makers are careful to restrict the number of copies that can be made or shared over computer networks.
And more often than not, Hollywood representatives are sitting in on the discussions that determine those technical standards.
Four years ago, the Motion Picture Association of America formed a technology unit to ensure that device makers understood its copy-protection requirements, said Brad Hunt, the association's chief technical officer.
The two industries argue plenty over the details. Hollywood wants to control distribution as much as possible while the tech industry doesn't want anti-piracy safeguards driving up the price or limiting the appeal of its products.
Still, a product is more likely to succeed if it gets Hollywood support, said Stephen Nickerson, a managing director of Warner Home Video.
Nickerson knows. He was an executive at Toshiba Corp. and active in discussions between the tech industry and Hollywood studios before DVD players debuted commercially in 1997.
Consumer electronic companies realized then that they needed Hollywood's backing, and spent five years resolving technical details and copy-protection standards before DVD players hit the market.
At times, the tech industry has prevailed without Hollywood's blessing.
The precedent-setting 1984 Sony Betamax case established the legality of VCRs and the right of consumers to record and watch shows at their convenience. The music industry also unsuccessfully tried to squelch MP3 music players, losing in court in 1999 against the makers of Rio, the first commercial MP3 player.
But major consumer electronics makers would rather not antagonize Hollywood.
Recent copy-infringement cases have targeted small companies that make bleeding-edge technologies. But can the little guys survive the heat? SONICblue didn't.
Doug Lichtman, a University of Chicago law professor, was dismayed to see ReplayTV's new owners bow to Hollywood: "It troubles me to see the big player bully everyone else, rather than let the courts decide."
Performance (%-changes)
1 week: 16.12%
1 month: 50.00%
1 year: 7.69%
Fred, can we add Digitalway sales to O1000 sales
to satisfy that argument? I believe Digitalway
is gaining ground - and BTW you guys with the negative
viewpoint should really acknowledge that this market
is in its early stages - the growth here is for
years to come - at least a decade.
Why was that post deleted?
wasn't it for the same subject matter you
are now using to provoke the current argument?
let's be honest, your real objective is to provoke.
This is huge - Thanks OWD3
now I can think clearly because of you.
MH - your comment "day late" etc ...
I say this CE market will take the
next decade to evolve - far from over
and probably at least ten more years before
the sky falls.
So Cassandra is EBAY OT or not -
you complain about industry news related to EDIG
What gives?
EDIG 0.43 +0.03 0.42 0.43 220,200 09:35:36
me thinks that was Cassy's listing.
But when they are under warranty
EDIG will replace.
BTW - how many products can you buy
that when the warranty expires you
will get a credit for same?