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I believe that both Hotrod and Bradlee have mentioned this. I think Hotrod said Prentice told him funding should be done around middle of August with announcements in early September. Hotrod and Bradlee have both indicated that they or a friend approached Mr. Prentic or Snaper about providing funding for the company and they were told it was not needed (inference was they had it in the works already). This would also support some of LT's reports that they had people interested in funding and had to trim the list down and select who and how they wanted to move forward. LT indicated a lot of people wanted a piece of the pie.
And I fully understand that.
As for those who lie on this forum for their own gain. I despise it. It is the lowest of low in my opinion. But I can only confirm a few people who do that here. I am sure there are others but I will believe those who are consistent until proven otherwise. People who don't own the stock and bash or who pump and then bash and then pump and then bash obviously have an agenda. I have no reason to doubt anyone who says they are long and consistently talks the stock up, just as I have no reason to doubt anyone who says they are long but complain about lack of news or question management.
I have no problem with you expressing your opinions but you have obviously allowed your personal dislike for someone on this board cloud your judgement. Do you really think BB has been 100% honest when posting on this board? Yet you support his post because he called out someone you have a problem with. That is not consistent at any level. You have consistently expressed your displeasure with lack of news from CTDT management. I can respect that. You don't waffle or bounce all over the place. You also spend your time to verify information and help DD. I appreciate that. While I may not always agree with you I have found you to be fair to others on this board. I miss that consistency that I have always seen from you. It is easy to get drawn into a war of words - Just look at Senator Paul and Governor Christis LOLs. And for the record I was not singleling you out as either immature or needing to man up - that was a generalization of much of the board rhetoric (although I understand why and how you would take it that way). No offense intended.
That is my point Jay - Playing the blame game does not fly. You have a choice in who you listen to and who you don't. Life is not complicated. YOU take actions based on what YOU choose to do. If you think you used bad input then correct it. But understand that you are the only one that can do that. Continually calling out or blaming others is an exercise in futility. There is no government bailout coming nor should there be :)
Why should anybody reply to BB - Why does'nt he post his share total? Why does'nt he post his orders? He pops up once and a while to say this is going way up or this is going way down in some form of nonsense language. Just what gives him any credibility or right to ask for evidence from anybody. You wonder why people are not posting here? Just listen to yourselves - Most immature group of people I have ever seen on a board. YOU bought this stock, nobody held a gun to your to your head. IT is YOUR responsibility. Man up and sell at a loss or do what you can to support it. If you are not happy call Snaper and Prentice daily. Bashing fellow stockholders won't do a bit of good to help your position.
There will not be much buying unless some of the current longs get more powder. The shorts have left for the most part. Looks like we have 200 to 400k of flipper shares available. That is why you see the big blocks popping up in the high .04's and .05's. Unfortunately the longs who are buying are bid sitting trying to average down. So the flippers sell into the bid to take some profit. It will not take a lot of buying to push through the flippers but it will take some. Expect it to stay this way until around the middle of August when the 10Q is due. Activity should increase some them. Mr. Snaper and Mr. Prentice have shown over and over again that they want to keep things quiet until they have everything ready to roll. Mr. Prentice has given that time-line to shareholders. Don't expect anything before then - you will be disappointed. PPS will take care of itself when the company announces funding and/or production. At that point everyone here will wish they had more of this stock not less IMO.
No news does not mean no action. Some people assume, because they are not hearing anything, that Mr. Prentice and Mr. Snaper are off on vacation. Mr. Prentice said it would be mid-august earliest for the funding to be finalized and early September for the announcement. I would expect it to be quiet until then. For those concerned about volume it is the same deal. Probably won't be any new buyers until then. Any buying will be current shareholders adding to their positions. No news and low volume will also mean a much quieter board. Not a lot to say right now. I will continue to add as I can :) GLTA
FANC moved ask up.
This is the quiet before the storm - Big things brewing. IMO
Annual incorporation paperwork and filing is different than business license. If you are incorporated you generally have to file an annual report and pay the fee. The business license is usually local and in most states the fee is based on revenue. The more you make the more you pay.
In most states it is a one page form verifying the address of the business and classification. The big thing is paying the annual fee. They want their money LOL Not a big deal at all.
VC I think the cover opportunities are getting slim. Not sure how many shares the MM's are willing to print. It would be nice if there were a few others tomorrow with powder to help. 2 or 3 buyers would really put them in a bind :)
Jay are you talking to me or Brad? I certainly did not. I got a PM from Q about it. Whenever I talked with LT he was always very careful not to give out hard facts. He always said what he wanted to happen but he made it clear it was not his call. I do think LT was a cheerleader but can't imagine him ever giving out information like that until it was public knowledge.
Yes it has Jay. The OTCreport shows 1 million shares being shorted. If I were short on this stock I would be seriously worried. There is no way 1 million shares get covered without PPS going way up. Just 100K could start things popping. The real question is who is able to get out first and who ends up getting the short stick as it moves up while people cover. Also the last 1k hit at .04 directly reduced the share count available at .04 by 1000. It looks like NITE won't be printing shares there. Looks like the coordinated effort my shorts to drive PPS down yesterday failed miserable and now they are knee deep. Q keeps trying to help them but it just is not working.
Looks like they deal with a very high-end clientele and institutional investors.
New MM today - TEJS?
It would seem to me the logical thing to do then (if that is your sentiment) is to sell your position. If you don't want to take the loss then it makes more sense to remain silent or do what you can to support the stock and help it back to a pps that you can except as an exit point. Bashing the stock will only serve to slow down your opportunity to exit without a loss. It is simply rational thinking and behavior.
Really strange trading day today. I have not seen this many large blocks of shares traded since I have been watching this stock. I am assuming it is shorting. If so then any upward price movement would make them have to start scrambling. It actually looks like a coordinated effort. Time will tell but I think the shorts will be disappointed to find out that the longs here are solid and will hold for the long term. It is a very risky play on their part (especially the naked shorts). I don't typically wish ill will toward anyone but considering the shady trading tactics and continual lying about the stock on the boards I really can't wait for someone to come in with about 20K and start pounding the ask. I think the shorts who are working together will soon start looking out for numero uno and step all over the others to get what they want. Bottom line is anyone who lacks integrity when working with someone else will more than happy to sell them out when it becomes convenient.
Yep and it still did not go sub .02 so that blows that argument outta the water. Q it really is a shame that someone who had respect and support from board members and appreciation for your input is willing to just dump that so easily. Is money that important to you? Are you really willing to give up all self-respect and credibility to drive your agenda? I am really sorry. I always enjoyed your input and perspective. I liked the old the Q that used to be here and really hate to think that it was all an act. Count me as someone on the board that wishes you well but finds zero credibility in your post anymore. I sincerely hope you find happiness in life and that it goes way beyond the insignificance of stock trading.
There are actually two more million share holders and Joey is close. I think float is about two grass blades short of locked.
That is what I thought. It seems foolish to do so on a stock with such a low float. I think we are about 250K shy of locking the float. If someone with sufficient funds wanted to burn them it could done very easily.
His share count has always fluctuated when he gave it to me. Lower each time and now he has refused to give a total at all. I would not be surprised if he has dumped all his shares at this point.
Jay can you short shares that don't exist?
Sorry I cancelled my PM service. I got your total and I agree on shares. That is why I asked about shorts and whether or not they could borrow more shares than the float. We only have a handful of people who could have dumped 500K shares at one time.
No it was multiple buys - 1 300K, several 50K's - total was 510K in that group of transactions.
So who just bought 500K shares?
I know shorts can borrow shares but they can borrow more shares than actually exist in the float?
Yes and understandably a sour pickle. I believe it will be a sweet pickle in the long run :)
While I like LT I am not certain he ever really knew the strategic plan from Prentice's perspective. The excom told LT they liked and approved the PR plan but that does not necessarily translate into them running a campaign because it has to fit Prentice's plan. Perhaps the money LT thought would be used for PR was used to pay the auditor's fee for the 10K. Or maybe they thought the funding deal would close earlier. I understand you are frustrated and feel like you were lied too. I don't think it was intentional but rather borne out of LT's unfettered exuberance. Over time I believe that nearly everything LT said will materialize. Just not in LT's timeline but in the very measured and controlled timeline of the COO. In the long-run it will be good for the company and the shareholders. In the short term it means the stock will trade sideways. But it will be worth waiting for. IMO
This is pure speculation but I don't think they have the cash to run PR until the funding deal is closed.
Well if it were a huge scam then they probably would:
Put out a lot of PR's pumping the price.
Issue as much stock as they could.
Borrow as much money as they could.
And would not:
Keep quiet about company developments.
Refuse funding from multiple sources.
Pay for audited financials.
Have a verified GIA document stating what they produced is real.
Have verifiable sub-contractors.
Verifiable resumes.
Verifiable stock float via a real transfer agent.
If anything is a scam it is people on this board that pump the stock for a while and then trash the stock or make up lies to drive pps down. Any rational analysis of the facts will support this is a valid company. While there are a lot of unanswered questions which should be valid discussion on this board blanket unsupported statements like "this is a scam" should carry no weight and only serve to expose the poster.
Yep - I know a lot here consistently hit the ask. I also understand when this was moving down rapidly it was a great opportunity for many to average down and load up. Now it is time to move PPS back up and the only way to do that is if everyone consistently hits the ask.
Unfortunately we have a lot of people on this board that bid sit. They think they are just trading clever and getting better pps. What they fail to realize is it drives the stock price down and lets the flippers and shorts continue to operate. Very short sighted IMO
OK fellow shareholders - I have less than 200K shares of the float unaccounted for as of this evening. Based on the L2 from today we have a few people flipping about 200K in the .05 to .09 range. I will stop keeping track at this point because the float is basically locked with the exception of the few flippers. I also don't know when people will start selling again. My guess is there are some who will look to sell off a portion of their positions around .10 to .12 to get out their initial investment. I don't expect much though. We should see a steady climb into mid August when the 10Q is due. That should be the first "event" or "non-event" coming up. The low float gives us an opportunity to break through .12 this time which I believe we will do easily. From there who knows how much it will climb before news gets out. It could be a lot just because of the float. GLTA
Those who have given me share totals publicly since 7/17 include:
Steve641,BigLLC,Naval,Biz,Switch,Joey,Jocito,Bradlee,Hotrod,Wymont,Iv4life,Billiam,Venture,Pony,JDWarrior,Agigail,Aroque,Devilmania,Thedon88,MBAMann,Mitcheroo,Tender_DP,Tinmetz,Driver103,EZ-E,Pacrat,TerraFirma,Iceandfire,ThePSA,LowLowz,Bigdaddy,Marshski,Tentech,Mr.Wonderful,JayEl,Zamochit
Lets go team - From an official CTDT Cheerleader!
18.25 million accounted for and still a few I am not including in totals. Of these 5 people hold over 1 million, 4 hold between 500,000 and 1 million, 8 people hold 250,000 to 500,000. So about 17 people that could impact the stock somewhat if they decided to sell. I am not including totals for (Q,KKpennies,Willbone,Chsmoke,Inthegreen) There may be more holding who I am not aware of.
That 18 million is held by about 40 shareholders. Could be a few more if I was given a total but it included multiple family members. Some people gave me a breakdown so it should be close. If we all remain disciplined and don't sell and pay ask this WILL climb. Add in some new blood and it climbs quickly.
18 million of the float confirmed in board members hands. Most are very strong longs. Still have a few non reporting but I believe one is holding several hundred thousand - So we are close to locking down the float. If the shorting stops and we clear a few flipper out then we will actually be fighting each other for a handful of shares LOL. New investors are gonna have to pay!