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More UCHB share manipulation today with 310,400 sells, then a 5,000 ($25) buy at the end to keep the SP looking respectable.
"UCHB only owes 1 mil$ to Larry"
Do you have a link to back up that statement?
I thought someone said he had obtained employment. This says "he wants to travel to Canada for a job opportunity."
From his arraignment;
"His attorney requested that Wilcox be allowed to travel to California and Oregon, where his teenage son lives. He also wants to travel to Canada for a job opportunity."
I found this interesting from Larry's BK; "13. Debtors own shares in the following entities, none of which have any value: The Mercer Group (1,500,000 shares); Groove Inc ((857,143 shares); Savi Media Group (50,000 shares); WOW Technologies (25,000 shares)"
Of particular interest is the "Mercer Group (1,500,000 shares)".
It seems UCHB'S new man in charge, Andy Mercer, is no better than Wilcox when it comes to running a company, since his own company that LW has stock in is worthless! In fact all of LW'S stock is worthless. It's no wonder UCHB is worthless!
It also seems UCHB'S new CEO Andrew E. Mercer has had some very questionable run-in's with the law! In this case it was with the California Corporations Commissioner.
http://www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/2008/Mercer_dr.pdf
State of California - Department of Corporations
TO:
STATE OF CALIFORNIA BUSINESS, TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING AGENCY
DEPARTMENT OF CORPORATIONS
Andrew E. Mercer, President The Mercer Group, Inc. 2421 Fenton Street Ste. A Chula Vista, CA 91914
DESIST AND REFRAIN ORDER (For violation of sections 25210 and 25401 of the Corporations Code)
The California Corporations Commissioner finds that:
1. The Mercer Group, Inc. (“TMG”) is a corporation incorporated under the laws of California on November 26, 1997. Its principal place of business is at 2421 Fenton Street Suite A, Chula Vista, CA 91914. It maintains a website at www.themercergroup.biz. Andrew E. Mercer is the president and control person of TMG.
2. TMG owns equity interests in several companies, including Paradigm System Solutions Inc. (“PSSI”), a company in the computer business. TMG issues and sells securities in the form of interests in a limited liability company, TMG Holdings, LLC (“TMG Holdings”). TMG Holdings shareholders receive dividends in the form of shares of stock in companies including PSSI.
2. From at least November 2006 through March 2007, Mercer and TMG offered and sold shares of TMG Holdings to investors with the understanding that investors would receive both TMG Holdings shares and PSSI shares. Mercer and TMG used the funds invested by TMG Holdings investors to purchase PSSI shares and then distributed the PSSI shares to those investors.
3. The shares of stock in PSSI, which were purchased using TMG Holdings’ investor funds and then distributed to TMG Holdings investors, were securities within the meaning of
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DESIST AND REFRAIN ORDER
State of California - Department of Corporations
Corporations Code section 25019. In purchasing PSSI shares for TMG Holdings shareholders, Mercer and TMG acted as broker-dealers within the meaning of Corporations Code section 25004.
4. Neither Mercer nor TMG has obtained from the California Corporations Commissioner a certificate to act as a broker-dealer. Neither Mercer nor TMG is exempt from the certificate requirement.
5. In offering and selling the securities of TMG Holdings and PSSI, Mercer and TMG failed to disclose that in 1996, Mercer’s registration had been suspended by the National Association of Securities Dealers, Inc. (“NASD”), which has now been replaced by the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (“FINRA”), for failure to pay an arbitration award in an arbitration case brought against him in his capacity as president of Devcon Land Corporation.
Based upon the foregoing findings, the California Corporations Commissioner is of the opinion that Andrew E. Mercer and The Mercer Group, Inc. have effected transactions in securities as broker- dealers without having first applied for and secured from the Commissioner a certificate authorizing them to act in that capacity, in violation of section 25210 of the Corporate Securities Law of 1968. Pursuant to section 25532 of the Corporate Securities Law of 1968, Andrew E. Mercer and The Mercer Group, Inc., are hereby ordered to desist and refrain from effecting any transaction in, or inducing or attempting to induce the purchase or sale of, any security in this state, including but not limited to shares of stock in another company, unless and until they have applied for and secured from the Commissioner a certificate, then in effect, authorizing them to act in that capacity, or unless exempt.
Further, the California Corporations Commissioner is of the opinion that Andrew E. Mercer and The Mercer Group, Inc. offered or sold securities in this state by means of written or oral communications which included an untrue statement of a material fact or omitted to state a material fact necessary in order to make the statements made, in the light of the circumstances under which
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DESIST AND REFRAIN ORDER
State of California - Department of Corporations
they were made, not misleading, in violation of section 25401 of the Corporate Securities Law of 1968. Pursuant to section 25532 of the Corporate Securities Law of 1968, Andrew E. Mercer and The Mercer Group, Inc. are hereby ordered to desist and refrain from offering or selling any security in the State of California, including but not limited to interests in a limited liability company and stock, by means of any written or oral communication which includes an untrue statement of material fact or omits to state a material fact necessary in order to make the statements made, in light of the circumstances under which they were made, not misleading.
This Order is necessary, in the public interest, for the protection of investors and consistent with the purposes, policies, and provisions of the Corporate Securities Law of 1968.
Dated:
October 8, 2008 Los Angeles, California
By:
PRESTON DuFAUCHARD California Corporations Commissioner
ALAN S. WEINGER Acting Deputy Commissioner Enforcement Division
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"Why r u against this from going up no matter how small."
Because I don't like it when people like LW SCAM investors by putting out LIES in news releases touting impending business ventures like he has for the last 11 years that always end in failure and lost money!
Baby steps alright! A whole 13,000 shares for $35 worth of buys so far but 105,000 shares sold! Too funny!
" Although you might have admitted to not being a shareholder"
And NOW you know why some of us are not UCHB SHAREHOLDERS!
Lets face the TRUTH! SHAREHOLDERS are going to lose ALL their money.
Just watch and WAIT! You will NOT be rewarded!
"UC HUB has over 400,000 cubic yards of tailings with sapphires with gold. Mining of uc hub samples indicate 15-20 carats per yard."
This line you posted should have read;
"UC HUB has 450,000 cubic yards of pre-mined “tailings”, with sapphires. Debtors believe there are 10-15 carats per yard with a value of $1-$10 per raw carat."
Stick with the FACTS please! And the FACTS are that this 10 acres was bought from the owners of a 40 acre parcel that they have been selling bags of gravel from for several years. Good luck on finding anything of value, other than selling bags of gravel, since the material was all pre-mined “tailings”.
Here is what Larry's BK filing states as to the amount and value the UCHB Sapphires.
13. UC HUB Group, Inc., a Nevada corporation; Debtrs own approximately 20% of the company, and are the controlling shareholders.Company is trading at less than $0.01 per share. Company owns 10 acres in Helena, Montana. On the land, there are 450,000 cubic yards of pre-mined “tailings”, and in the tailings, Debtors believe there are 10-15 carats of saphires per cubic yard, with a value of $1-$10 per raw carat.
Larry's BK shows that UCHB owes larry 1.5Million.
16. UC HUB Group, Inc. owes debtor for loans and unpaid salry from 1999-present 1,500,000
And it's just a matter of time before they try to collect!
And UCHB owes Larry according to their latest filing; Accrued Officer Salary $1,070,700.
Surely you don't expect the BK court to JUST overlook that do you? They will try to collect it from UCHB. Now just where do you think UCHB can come up with that amount?
UCHB is already several million in debt! Longs might as well kiss their money good by!!!
Unless the BK court goes after the money that UCHB owed Larry!
Larry is being attacked because he was the CEO and sole employee of UCHB and has run the company into debt, then got caught by the FBI and SEC for defrauding others. He then filed for BK and more than likely that will cause UCHB to do the same!
From UCHB'S latest PR; "the company has an estimate of 484,000 cubic yards of tailings piled on top of the ground"
Guess what! Tailings are the materials left over after the process of separating the valuable fraction from the uneconomic fraction of previous miners.
Good luck!
"Larry Wilcox is Still Running UCHB"
Surprise! Surprise!
Here is an excerpt of a UCHB PR when they were PUMPING the wickenburg gold mine.
LOS ANGELES, CA--(Marketwire - February 10, 2009) - UC Hub Group, Inc. (OTCBB: UCHB) Two separate chemists and labs have now confirmed that gold exists on the Wickenburg Property and the range of gold in a particular zone is from 2.06 oz/ton to 7.06 oz/ton.
Notice the gold amounts they claimed, “from 2.06 oz/ton to 7.06 oz/ton.”
Now notice this excerpt from the latest UCHB PR concerning their gold amounts in Montana;
October 18, 2010 --(PR.com)-- UC Hub (OTC Bulletin Board: UCHB.PK) Montana Mine - The gold and sapphire mine UC Hub owns in Montana is a tremendous asset and should be a large income producer for the company?. All of the tests have shown that the mine should be prolific in El Dorado Bar, Missouri River sapphires, some of the best sapphires in the world and well enriched with gold. In the company's test run of the virgin soil, (never been mined) they have extracted approximately one ounce of gold, possibly more, per 100 yards of dirt, and one half ounce to one and one half ounces of gold per 100 yards of dirt in the tailings (previously mined). This is very meaningful for the company and its shareholders and will potentially help the bottom line very effectively.
So now in this PR we have UCHB pumping their Montana Gem and gold mines and they say their Montana Gold amounts are app. 1 once per 100 yds of soil, which is also app 100 tons of soil, which would equal 1/100 of an ounce per ton. Now they say “this is very meaningful for the company and its shareholders and will potentially help the bottom line very effectively.”
So UCHB abandoned the Wickenburg Gold mine with Gold amounts “from 2.06 oz/ton to 7.06 oz/ton” for the Montana Mines which only has 1/100 of an ounce per ton per their latest PR, and they say “this is very meaningful for the company and its shareholders and will potentially help the bottom line very effectively.”
They have no clue as to the cost of processing 100 tons/yds of soil.
Could someone please help me make sense of these UCHB PR gold AMOUNT numbers! Do they even READ their own PR’S or do they just forget what they PRed in the past. According to their figures, wickenburg had over 200 to 700 times more gold per ton of soil than their Montana mine!
As I posted before
So it's OK with you if as in this case, when UCHB/LW says in a PR on 6/2/2009 that; "UC Hub Group, Inc. (OTC BB:UCHB.OB - News) announces the signing of a binding deal for the gold and sapphire mine in Montana. UC Hub has moved its equipment to the property and it will be used for the Gold mining portion of the 100 plus acres. There will be two integrated wash plants on this property. The UC Hub wash plant will focus on the gold mining on the property of which it has been projected to be a significant revenue center for the Company. The gold portion of the mining operation is projected to produce and ramp to about $500,000 or greater a month once the plants are on schedule during a full mining season and may potentially increase significantly with more volume and double shifts. The company projects that the cubic yards per this 100 acre site may have 10-20 year term depending on the depths and layers of gold and sapphires"
Note the words "binding deal", "100 plus acres",and "$500,000 or greater a month in gold". I don't see anything in that PR that indicates what you said, that, "It's very possible that the company planned on buying the entire 100 acres but for whatever reason ended up just buying 10." Or that, "It could simply be a case of changing circumstances, failed deals, etc, and those things don't equal lies."
Well if it's not a lie, what is it? Now if what you said was true, where's Larry's explanation?
And now over a year later UCHB investors have no proof of any of that but do hear from other sources that UCHB has only 10 acres from a MOM and POP gem operation in Montana.
There has been no SEC filing or UCHB PR, that proves UCHB even own the 10 acres let alone the 100+ or production!
The BIG problem here is that this has happened over and over in UCHB/LW PR'S for the last 11 years!
LC was pretty smart about his prediction on the UCHB reality show now wasn't he!
Careful what you wish for!
"You're quoting news from over a year ago. Deals are adjusted or fall through, and things change. With the economy as bad as it is, would that really be so shocking?"
That "OLD NEWS" is a Company PR! So it's OK with you for the CEO of UCHB to LIE to their investors!
If "DEALS are adjusted or fall through" why not be HONEST and PR the CORRECTIONS to your loyal investors! Instead all they got was SILENCE!
Try the UCHB blogspot . com site.
"Take the 10 acres/100 acres. It's very possible that the company planned on buying the entire 100 acres but for whatever reason ended up just buying 10. Nothing sinister about that."
So it's OK with you if as in this case, UCHB/LW says in a PR on 6/2/2009 that; "UC Hub Group, Inc. (OTC BB:UCHB.OB - News) announces the signing of a binding deal for the gold and sapphire mine in Montana. UC Hub has moved its equipment to the property and it will be used for the Gold mining portion of the 100 plus acres. There will be two integrated wash plants on this property. The UC Hub wash plant will focus on the gold mining on the property of which it has been projected to be a significant revenue center for the Company. The gold portion of the mining operation is projected to produce and ramp to about $500,000 or greater a month once the plants are on schedule during a full mining season and may potentially increase significantly with more volume and double shifts. The company projects that the cubic yards per this 100 acre site may have 10-20 year term depending on the depths and layers of gold and sapphires"
Note the words "binding deal", "100 plus acres",and "$500,000 or greater a month in gold". I don't see anything in that PR that indicates what you said, that, "It's very possible that the company planned on buying the entire 100 acres but for whatever reason ended up just buying 10."
Now if what you said was true, where's Larry's explanation?
And now over a year later UCHB investors have no proof of any of that but do hear from other sources that UCHB has only 10 acres from a MOM and POP gem operation in Montana.
There has been no SEC filing or UCHB PR, that proves UCHB even own the 10 acres let alone the 100+ or production!
The BIG problem here is that this has happened over and over in UCHB/LW PR'S for the last 11 years!
OOPPSS! Someone forgot to buy 200 shares at .045 at the bell!
"Actually his bankruptcy has never been discussed. Despite the fact the courts think it should be a matter of public record, most feel it's a private matter."
And just where did you get the info that "MOST" feel BK is a private matter especially the CEO of a PUBLIC company?
Well that was my point also since you said "If not then you can't claim to know that 100% without a doubt that UC Hub is a scam." and that was in response to what the said after the above statement.
"Take the 10 acres/100 acres. It's very possible that the company planned on buying the entire 100 acres but for whatever reason ended up just buying 10. Nothing sinister about that."
What was "sinister" about that is the fact that he never informed investors as to that fact. In FACT investors got it from the people UCHB bought it from and Larry's BK filing where it was listed!
Also that is just 1 little FACT out of literally 100's of similar FACTS over the last 11 years where Larry has made similar statements that turned out to be FALSE. You can read about them all on the UCHB Blog, just google it.
Do you REALLY know Larry 100%? Nobody knows anyone 100%.
Were you or any of Larry's friends at those SEC/FBI meetings when the discussions took place about them buying UCHB stock, along with the kickbacks that are described in the complaint?
So how would you or anyone else know just what was said or done? I think the SEC complaint and charges speak for themselves.
Have you READ all of UCHB'S past PR'S for the last 11 years? If so, do you see a pattern here?
I think Larry is lucky that he's got away with his past shady deals for so long.
Now since you do PR work and run Larry's fan club, we understand your position here but this is not Larry's fan club board. This board is to discuss the UC HUB Group company and it's officers of which Larry is the former CEO. Now if the opinions of investors discussed here concerning their companies CEO offends you, then please don't read them.
WOW!!! A whole $219 worth of UCHB bought above the .002 level. Lets see, that's about 4-5 of those 15lb bags of gravel from the Montana mines!
Well here is Larry's plea agreement and I don't see anything in it that suggests the FBI or SEC was working with any of Larry's former (associate that had frauded shareholders of another company ,and LW(former UCHB ceo)caught him. He even won in court.) scenario!
http://assets.bizjournals.com/cms_media/southflorida/pdf/Wilcox%20plea.pdf
And as for this statement;
"Ever since, this individual and his friends have seeked revenge. Then they told FBI that LW would take some kick back if they pretended to be some kind of fund that was interested in investing in uchub.
Can't really discuss more, but this is just the beginning. I doubt it will stop here. Some associates of uchub have already started procedures against these evil doers."
So, if what you say is true, then that means these UCHUB associates have "started procedures against" this individual and his friends and the FBI and the SEC! Too funny! Good Luck with that!
I think we have all read and discussed that UCHB PR, in fact I was the first to post it;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=55728743
How about the gold found? Who took the samples? Where are the lab reports?
So they claim app 1 once per 100 yards of soil which is app 100 tons. Now that would only be .01 of an once per ton. Do you have any clue as to what it costs to extract that 1 once from 100 yards/tons of soil? And all they have is 10 acres of tailings. Too funny!
This sounds just like the way they took samples from the Wickenburg mine where they said they found lots of gold but it was all a big SCAM just like these mines are!
"some people said there were no mines"
Here is the Montana mine PR posted (IH Post #3268) on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:11:58 PM
LOS ANGELES, CA--(MARKET WIRE)--Jun 2, 2009 -- UC Hub Group, Inc. (OTC BB:UCHB.OB - News) announces the signing of a binding deal for the gold and sapphire mine in Montana. UC Hub has moved its equipment to the property and it will be used for the Gold mining portion of the 100 plus acres. There will be two integrated wash plants on this property. The UC Hub wash plant will focus on the gold mining on the property of which it has been projected to be a significant revenue center for the Company. The gold portion of the mining operation is projected to produce and ramp to about $500,000 or greater a month once the plants are on schedule during a full mining season and may potentially increase significantly with more volume and double shifts. The company projects that the cubic yards per this 100 acre site may have 10-20 year term depending on the depths and layers of gold and sapphires
Now here is a good example of what "some people" were posting just 1 hr and 10 min later (Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:21:15 PM) in IH post #3270. (see below)
Do you see anything about "NO MINE" in the below post?
You also might want to note these 2 sentences in the above PR; "UC Hub has moved its equipment to the property and it will be used for the Gold mining portion of the 100 plus acres." And; "The company projects that the cubic yards per this 100 acre site may have 10-20 year term depending on the depths and layers of gold and sapphires"
100 acres!! Another Wilcox LIE??? Because now it's listed as 10 acres! Where's the other 90 acres???
I don't even see any mention of a lease for the other 90 acres.
All UCHB has is a MOM and POP operation on 10 acres selling bags of worthless GRAVEL! And you want to call that a MINE!
And WHERE is ALL that GOLD that was projected in the above PR "to produce and ramp to about $500,000 or greater a month"??? And you wonder why we say SCAM!
Post # 3270
"What is the location and name of this "mine"? Wilcox the scammer only tells us it is in the Helena Montana area. There are lot of hobby mines in that area and they sell the junk sapphires they find there in grab bags to tourists.
This is another hilarious Wilcox scam.
The reason the sapphires are not mined commerically in that area is because of the high labor costs here in the US and the fact that the gem grade yield is so low. The fact that these stones can not be heat treated further lowers their commercial viability.
Another money losing scam from the same retarded dunce that has lost over 18 million dollars here over the past few years and never produced dollar one in profits. ."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=38331748
Of course I realize that there is a difference between raw stones and cut and polished ones!
The problem is that it is very expensive to cut and polish these stones, hence the high price. But UCHB is not in the business of cutting and polishing stones. Those are the people who make the money!
UCHB is just in the mining business and their stones are of little value until someone else makes them into cut and polished Gems. Now as you can see, there are plenty of MOM and POP operations mining the rough stones. Not much to be made in the rough stone market!
Here's an interesting history of sapphire mining in Montana that kezzek posted a few days ago that explains why UCHB doesn't stand a chance of being profitable.
http://www.airesjewelers.com/montana_sapphire.htm
I couldn't agree more kezzek. In BK'S they go after anything of value and in LW'S case they will go after his UCHB holdings and anything UCHB owes him.
Even if they don't go after UCHB, what's left? A MOM and POP gem stone operation and a 50% interest in a bunch of unprofitable oil wells along with a TON of debt!
"P.S. If UCHB’s permits really exist ….Why haven’t those permits been posted?????"
(see: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=55927306
There's only one reason they can't post a copy of UCHB'S mining permits! They don't have any, and never will. The only permit they may have is to sell bags of GRAVEL, and that is previous MINE TAILINGS GRAVEL where all the good gems have been taken out!
I don't own any UCHB shares and he knows it!
Here's one thing I noticed in the LW BK. (See excerpt below) UCHB'S PR stated their sapphires were worth $600 to Several thousand dollars per carat. Here they are listed as only worth $1-$10 per carrot. Also note, their material is all PRE MINED TAILINGS! GOOD LUCK!
Excerpt from the BK;
Company owns 10 acres in Helena, Montana. On the land, there are 450,000 cubic yards of pre-mined “tailings”, and in the tailings, Debtors believe there are 10-15 carats of saphires per cubic yard, with a value of $1-$10 per raw carat.
It looks like we still don't have any PROOF that the Montana sapphire mine is in UCHB'S name because the seller says; "Maybe it's recorded in Larry's name or a family member of his."
Now since we don't have a UCHB PR or filing showing the $140,000 payment for the mine, who owns it, UCHB, Larry, or this, “CHiPs” star Larry Wilcox has announced the creation of a new charitable foundation designed to benefit children around the world. Created out of the sapphire mine he managed in Montana, his plans are to donate special gems and bracelets and pendants made from the precious gems to terminally ill children and those in crisis."
"We will not tolerate anymore lies or mis- information about us or our company."
The problem has not been with those who own the mine. The problem has been with UCHB which is a PUBLIC company and the investors are very upset with the way this mine was presented as a very big money maker. They even promised production starting way back in mid 2009.
If UCHB would have named the mine and who they were dealing with back in 2009 and kept their investors up to speed, you wouldn't have had all the speculation and mis-information you refer to.
UCHB has a very bad track record for over 10 years now of acquiring business after business and all failures!
Also I don't recall seeing any slander against Bruce Scharf & Nina Pullman and The Blue Jewel Mine/ EZ Rocks 4U LLC .
Here is just one good example of how LW/UCHB distorted the truth about their Gems and Sapphires.
From the; http://bluejewelmine.webs.com/ which is run by Nina Pullman and Bruce Scharf (aka EZ Rocks 4U) which is what UCHB has supposedly bought, they say; "From one of their 15lb bags of gravel they guarantee at least 37.5 carats of sapphires."
"Finished sapphires that are clean with good color can be worth $100 to $1000 per carat or more.
Fine sapphires, like fine diamonds, are rare. As with diamonds, the quality and value of sapphires are determined by factors commonly known as the “Four C's”, that is: Color, Clarity, Cut and Carat weight."
Note the words; "Fine sapphires are rare." And they don't give the cost of cutting and polishing etc.
Now note this;"Finished sapphires that are clean with good color can be worth $100 to $1000 per carat or more."
Now notice what LW/UCHB said in this excerpt from their 5/11/10 PR;"Based upon industry wholesale pricing, which grades individual gems according to the size, the carats, cut and clarity, the price of these stones range from $600 to several thousand dollars per carat for Natural Montana Sapphires."
The Montana people say $100 to $1000 per carat, LW/UCHB say $600 to Several Thousand.
If these mines are so great, why are these people selling it for so little?
Kinda reminds me of a certain wickenburg mine that LW/UCHB Pumped just before getting into this one, that along with another mine or 2 that supposedly had $80 Billion worth of gold.
You can't believe a WORD this company says, and it won't change with LW gone!
I think you are referring to overachiever's post #3270 which was posted on June2, 2009 which I made a "Public Reply" to yesterday. After a post has been left for 24 hr's without receiving TOS violation, it's very hard to get it removed. As you can see # 3270 is over a year old. Kezzek was not the Moderator at that time.
As far as I know, name calling/criticism IS allowed for company Official's/CEO'S, not other board members.
26,000 sells at .03 today, then in the last 1/2 Hr another one of those 200 shares for less than $10.
Someone's sure desperate to keep the SP of WRGL up. Too Funny!
"Is a potential opportunity only to buyers qualified for a mortgage."
That's your opinion!
By the way, for the two years ended August 31, 2010, Standpoint Research was ranked # 3.
What is your ranking?