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I’m numb. We have been ROYALLY F*¢&@!
Postscript: if they have releases that are likely to raise the PPS *after* the R/S, then release that content now!! Holding it until after you’ve already fractionalized the wealth-building capacity of your shareholders is NO way to reward them for their patience and increase shareholder value in a TRUE AND COMPLETE sense.
Let’s be real about what we’ve got here, shall we? For starters, the two-ton elephant in the room: even after a 1:75 R/S that will totally render impotent (irony) nearly everyone here, our PPS will rest somewhere between .01 and .02. Let that sink ALL the way in. (A) we were at that PPS two years ago WITHOUT all the dilution and (B) how ridiculous will that market cap be given the SUPPOSED value of the underlying business?
The only news is that another royal dumpfest is underway with 90M unloaded by lunchtime today. Still no news to substantiate the “most productive quarter” claim, nor anything to convince that our “reward” for patience and support will be anything other than a crippling R/S that will “reward us in the near future.”
Last time I checked (maybe 3 months ago) OS was at, I wanna say, 5B or so: just now I looked and TDA says OS=721M??
The only message I care to hear is that they will (1) cancel the reverse split and (2) allow the PPS to grow organically as the business continues to grow and increase revenue. Any other message will fall on my deaf—and disgusted—ears.
FYI: current profit trajectory is $200K/yr. Divide that by $600M and you get this percentage: 0.000333333333333. Do you HONESTLY think this management—which has “delivered” to the apparent tune of roughly 50 procedures per QUARTER—can turn that percentage into 1.0 (much less 5.00) in our lifetimes??
Where? Also all stock services (except OTC Markets) show 1.49B
1,511,896,142 OS as of 9/30/19
Lmao. Jelly donuts
Good news only if these two lenders represent most/all of the outstanding notes...
Once again, OTCX is in line to BUY a large number of shares. I’m my anecdotal observations, he’s typically a SELLER...
Yes, I know. But as I recall that form gives an OS count as of an early November date (maybe 11/1) and also contains generic language that leaves door open for changes subsequent to the firm’s filing.
Just REALLY interesting—as is the 100M share purchase by Tim in advance of a RS...
Multiple sites show OS currently at 1.49B. How can this NOT be indicative of something substantial?
Thank you to all veteran heroes!
1.49B shares is DOWN 50-75% already. TW bought 100M more last week. Something afoot that might lead to cancellation of the RS? Now THAT would be the Christmas gift of a lifetime!
However, if—and that’s a BIG IF—the company is quietly engaging in a massive buyback at these low prices, then that would change the complexion of EVERYTHING. Maybe, just maybe, Tim’s purchase of 100M shares was intended as a flare to signal some activity of this sort going on behind the scenes. Wouldn’t THAT be something?
Now it says 1.49B—I like it! But I don’t think it’s any more correct than the other number they had this week...
+1
They fiddled while CELZ burned
If they had given me ANY indications of upcoming action that would drive this up, I would throw more money at this. As it is, however, I give them the proverbial “vote of no confidence.”
No doubt AT ALL about the science and the credentials/credibility of the folks on THAT side of the house. However, the ham-fisted honchos on the BUSINESS side leave more than a little to be desired. We are about to be eviscerated by a 1:50 RS. Those of us who continued to buy, even as it continued to fall for over a year—yes, the same folks whom Tim thanked for their patience and for whom he declared victory (“we delivered”) exactly one day before announcing intent tobRZ—we now look like utter fools.
Technical question: is the company legally obliged to execute the RS at any point prior to them mailing the “definitive information statement” to the shareholders?
VERY strange: OTCX, typically here to sell, is first in line at the opening to BUY.
That statement indemnifies ALL shareholders, not merely the principals. Nice try though
According to TDA, CELZ now has 1,486B OS
.018 to .07 in first half of 2018. 2019 has been a BUST—with no end in sight and an eviscerating RS on the horizon...
Looks like there IS a “there there,” Hystart.
What exactly is going on with the volume? 5-10X shares on BID vs. ASK: are MMs lining up to buy shares that are being released through dilution? Overall volume has seemed anemic for large parts of he last few days—but then it spiked suddenly (dilution?) and PPS drops, followed by return to former PPS (through buying—but by whom?).
“We” may collectively, but each person’s shares will be reduced by whatever factor is executed for the RS (at this point 1:75 looks like a fait accompli). What GOOD does it do for an INDIVIDUAL to have the OVERALL OS higher after the RS? The LOWER the OS afterward, the HIGHER the price...
I’m expecting 2.5-3B OS when monthly update comes in early November
In order for that to be true, it would need to climb either to .10 with NO RS, or $8/share AFTER RS of 1:75. Otherwise, I’ve been gutted.
I’ve been watching the ($h*!) show: how much lower does this have to go before sane people seriously question the demand, business model, and viability of this company? I mean c’mon: this is becoming a caricature of the absurd (which is worse than the absurd itself).
Almost no volume until late morning—then looks like a regular dilution dump fest
THAT, sir, is what REALLY ticks me off going forward: the idea that they will dilute AGAIN AFTER RS.
1. We can’t even get them to give us clarity on income streams NOW (when they are very simple)—how in the WORLD can we reasonably extrapolate to some “pie in the sky” vision down the road?
2. Your math works, but see #1. In addition, I HIGHLY doubt that the OS does anything close to “remaining constant.”
Once bitten...
I wish I could match your unqualified exuberance. I’ve had that for much—though not all: I can’t help but analyze and question...I even question my questions!)—of the last 2 years. However, their talk of an imminent RS that would DESTROY my position (unless they’re talking $10-20+ PPS in the near future=1 year or so) has thrown a MAJOR wet blanket on my mood.
MMs bidding for more shares than selling (2:1)
Possible reverse merger coming? Tim talked about earlier one (CMTH reverse merging with Jolly, as I recall) in his recent audio interview—and I also note some “Rooster” chatter around CMTH elsewhere online. Thoughts?
I’m done with “hoping,” “wishing,” and the like. Folks need to know what we’ve been through—and that we are about to get annihilated by a RS. THEY deserve context, WE deserve better. Period.
So those of us who choose to have a right to be f’ing furious. We are about to be neutered—and I’m not OK with that