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The CDEX PUMP-N-DUMP is on. Must be that pretty new website, it certainly can't be that silly mock-up picture of the IG4 (along with the 46 page Instruction Manual claiming the G4 utilizes Raman Spectroscopy).
PennLubbock, does the G4 use Raman Spectroscopy?
If no, why is it claimed in the G4 Instruction Manual?
If yes, how on earth could CDEx have developed and put into production such a product in 6 short months between when JB came on board and when the USPTO filing (w/ the silli picture) was submitted.
Once again, how many signatures have been developed for the new IG4?
Is there a published list so a truly independent expert can bring samples into the lab when he visits for a demo?
We will need the drug, strength, dilutent and type of containment.
NO CUVETTES ALLOWED!
Pennstreet does the G4 use Raman Spectroscopy? If it does can you please refer me to where that claim is made by CDEx."
Because I simply wouldn't believe a word he says just like I didn't believe any other of the LOCH/CDEX CEO's which proven to be a very, very wise decision.
The only thing that will be believable IS IF CDEx SELLS LOTS OF UNITS WITH VERIFIED SALES and that's a MILLION-TO-ONE shot.
Make that a BILLION-TO-ONE.
As I priviously posted, here's my position on the IG4:
Crow, there's a very big technical hurdle to clear if CDEX is claiming that the IG4 can identify multiple component admixtures AND THEIR CONCENTRATIONS at the same time AND while in different types of containment.
I don't know if Dr. Poteet is sweating, but whoever is publicly making those claims SHOULD BE.
Clearly pennstreet is going to have a tough time proving that CDEx is no longer a scam.
The only way I can be convinced is if they start sellin them IG4's like hot cakes.
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Pennstreet, cat got your tongue?
"Pennstreet does the G4 use Raman Spectroscopy? If it does can you please refer me to where that claim is made by CDEx."
So why did you go to all the trouble of having your "expert" allegedly visit the lab?
What purpose did it serve?
Thanks kmryp00. eom
Pennstreet does the G4 use Raman Spectroscopy? If it does can you please refer me to where that claim is made by CDEx.
"The G4 was not gifted. I asked Mr. Brumfield if it was gifted, and he said no."
LOL!!!! Penstreet you're to funny! IF the G4 was actually SOLD wouldn't Jeff have told you so when you asked that question?
What was his response, "No, it wasn't gifted." That's it? He had nothing further to say? Really? He just hung you out to dry? LOL
Well, CDEx claimed it was "shipped", so the only reasonable conclusion is that it was shipped on loan.
I wonder how many PP suckers CDEx sold to after that PR. That is how LOCH/CDEx operate- a historical fact.
When is the next SEC filing due?
"Cdex says it can and I have zero doubt that it can do execute every detail as claimed."
OHHHH... "now it's CDEX said it can do it."
NO PENSTREET, you posted the G4 can do everything claimed.
YOU posted you've watched it do everything CDEx claims.
You posted your expert went to the lab and saw it, but I believe that's a big fat lie. Why would CDEx have an expert visit the lab, what would be the reason for that?
You also posted that you believe demos of the G4 will be very well received.
"Will be", when CDEX actually has one to demo that works? LOL
"After 13 years of following this company, I have no doubt that pennstreet will be here year after year."
Pennstreet doesn't "follow" this SCAM, he is a CDEX stock promoter which is obvious to anyone that reads his posts- CDEx Longs publicly call him a "CDEx Shill".
"Follow" the scam- NO. Part of the scam- YES.
You're funny Mrs. Pennstreet.
At leat Diddy thinks you are.
Diddy tells me he must go now.
Gid dai Roberta.
Crow, do you know where (other than an inference in a mock-up IG4 Instruction Maual*) CDEX claims the IG4 has incorporate RAMAN SPECTROSCOPY in addition to the old Valimed technology?
* I have absolutely NO doubt in my mind that LOCH/CDEX (once again) has mislead people into thinking that CDEX has a 43 page G4 Instruction Maual only 6 months after JB took over the front man job. I suspect it is an aid to sell to PP suckers.
HOW ON EARTH CAN/WOULD A COMPANY HAVE A MANUAL COMPLETED BEFORE THEY EVEN HAVE A PROTOTYPE TO DEMO? LOL!!!!
This is exactly how LOCH/CDEX has operated over the years. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. NO DOUBT IN MY MIND AND I'D PUT MY LIFE SAVINGS ON THIS ONE- AND I'M NOT KIDDIN'.
SHOW ME THE G4, SHOW ME A 43 PAGE WITHOUT BLANK PAGES BEYOND THE TABLE OF CONTENT AND I'LL SHOW CDEx THE MONEY!!!!!!!
Pennstreet does the G4 use Raman Spectroscopy? If it does can you please refer me to where that claim is made by CDEx.
Or is this another tall tale like the ELF using X-ray fluorescence at 2 meters in real time?
Loch/CDEx has a proven history of making false or outrageously misleading claims.
Sea Urchin, the problem is one can't believe a word he writes, he's the CDEx company shill just like most the CDEx shareholders posting on the Real CDEX Long Brd have realized.
He is no friend to the common, honest shareholder.
Anything he posts that can't be verified must be dismissed as false or misleading.
That means just about everything is worthless advertising. The only value is in the humor of his posts.
Of course they are, that's their yob.
Demmo, Pennstreet is nothing more than an on-line CDEX stock promoter. His alias will disappear after it becomes clear that all of his positive, rosy glasses CDEX reports have gone unfounded.
Pennstreet, that post doesn't exist because I never made that claim.
Make sure in the future that you get the information correct before giving it to Poteet for rebuttal.
"I believe the demonstrations for the G4 are going to be a well liked demo."
Going to be?
It is STILL the IG4! LOL
Geez, with the 43 page G4 User's Manual already completed* one would think CDEx has already given a demo. What about at ASHP?
Pennstreet claims he's seen a demo and even had his "expert" see a demo, so what's with:
"I believe the demonstrations for the G4 are going to be a well liked demo."
* unless of course the of the G4 in the trademark application was simpley a deceptive prop.
Crow, there's a very big technical hurdle to clear if CDEX is claiming that the IG4 can identify multiple component admixtures AND THEIR CONCENTRATIONS at the same time AND while in different types of containment.
I don't know if Dr. Poteet is sweating, but whoever is publicly making those claims SHOULD BE.
Clearly pennstreet is going to have a tough time proving that CDEx is no longer a scam.
The only way I can be convinced is if they start sellin them IG4's like hot cakes.
"Why is it, when the burden of proof comes out, the bad have to walk, and the good continue to be ever so present. Interesting, is it not."
The burden of proof is with pennstreet. You're so confused! LOL
You see, pennstreet has admitted that Loch/CDEX has always been a penny stock scam... well, always until now he claims.
It's now well established (more than ever) that CDEx has been a scam. What pennstreet needs to do is prove that it's no longer a scam.
Pennstreet's problem is how can anyone believe him now after being so wrong in the past? How can anyone trust his latest opinion after he was fooled into supporting and promoting a scam for all these years. Especially after a group of posters (myself included) have been 100% correct in stating that Loch/CDEX has been a scam for well over ten years?
He just wouldn't listen to us until those CDEx treasury shares ran out.
So who has the burden of proof? Pennstreet does, we've been right all along; he's been wrong. He has to prove it's no longer a scam. The burden of proof is with him.
I guess that makes us the good guys, we've been posting are opinions here under the same aliases the whole time not running, not walking, not going anywhere.
The on-line stock promoters that have operated on these boards appearing and dissappearing under different aliases along the way are clearly not the good guys.
Now, the stock promoters don't even want to admit that they were promoting CDEx during the scam years.
Interesting is it not?
diddy (a good guy)
"pennstreet is not an on-line stock promoter..."
Oh yes you are, show me one of your posts that is NOT promoting CDEx.
LOL!
How to convert a penny stock scam into a legitimate business in four easy steps:
Prerequisite:
1. The Scamco's, "revolutionary", "billion dollar tech" will not sell.
2. The Scamco has exhausted its treasury shares.
Conversion Steps:
1. Have on-line stock promoters blame it all on the CEO.
2. Introduce a new CEO that is a true business man (A true bankrupted business man is optional.)
3. Have the new CEO/BOD authorized an additional 200 million (300 million optional) treasury shares.
4. Begin advertsing a new "Golden Widget" that is better than ever.
5. Agressively seek uninformed PP Suckers to buy the worthless shares.
Of course, this is standard operating procedures for any penny stock scam. Just look at Loch Harris/CDEX, they've performed this conversion at least FOUR TIMES:
LOL! This is hilarious:
"Cdex moved pass the Penny Stock scamster stuff, when a true business man and leader was brought in by pper's. A fact that MANY know to be true.
Dang pennstreet, you sure remind me of Onthedge/Kidinsight with the above foot-in-mouth statement.
The fact is that the so-called (spit) bashers have been telling folks that CDEX is a scam for the last 10+ years. Now after 10 years, you're acknowledging the FACT! LOL
What took you and the other on-line CDEX stock promoters so long? LOL!!
Geez, you guys are slow. And how about Capnmike? He was posting irrelevant links for so long that he missed the obvious too?
So now suddenly it's no longer a scam? LOL
All of the PR's using forward looking statements, and the on-line hype from CDEX stock promoters are about selling those PP's to uninformed suckers.
The CDEX shelves are fully stocked with product (200 million of them) so expect to hear a lot more total BS (followed by "imho")in the new year.
And I'm being nice cuz it's Christmas Day.
Merry Christmas everyone. And merry Christmas to you too pennstreet.
"The patented detection process identifies drug strengths and volume-by-weight in real time. Which will help validate proper dose, diluents, and concentration of high-risk compounded medications and treatment solutions."
This statement is not referring to the IG4. It is referring to the patented process used by Valimed to measure concentration.
The IG4 will not identfy drugs and measure the concentration in different types of containment (bags, vials, syringes) using soley the existing Valimed technology.
In order to identify drugs in various types of containment, Raman Spectroscopy is required.
Ask the experts, not your medical buddy that just completed his residency. He is NOT qualified, even if you actually did have him review the IG4- which I'm 100% sure you DID NOT.
The sequence of events taking place since JB became CEO mirror exactly the sequence of events that took place when MP took over from LOCH HARRIS 10 years ago.
Absolutely nothing has change.
This is a no-brainer scam.
And pennstreet/ontheedge/kidinsight has been spewing the same nonsense the whole way.
This scam turns my stomach.
CDEX is not going away... they have 200 million newly authorized shares to sell to PP suckers first.
Then they'll kick JB to the curb, get a new CEO, get a new Golden Widget and start all over once again.
The MO for this scam is to advertise an imaginary (concept) product to sell PP shares. If they can produce one later, all the better, but not necessary- they're selling the sizzle, not the steak.
The IG4 is the latest concept product that they're advertising but do not have IMO. At least they don't have anything remotely close to what they're advertising.
Talk to the experts and learn. It will be near impossible to have such a product that can measure concentration AND identify the med(s) at the same time.
Valimed suffered from an inadequate number of signatures (that worked reliably). The IG4 will be ten times worst- a signature for every med, a signature for every concentration, a signature for every dilutent, and a signature for every type of med containment (i.e. bag, vial, syringe... etc.).
AND... the orientation for each object put into the "belly" (TM-Pennstreet the CDE stock promoter) of the IG4 must be the same each time in order to have any chance whatsoever to measure concentration with any degree of accuracy.
Ask the experts!!
This is a scam.
Not qualified.
"There will be no pump's at Cdex with the current team in charge. Any and all press releases will be factual and straight forward as is allowed by the entity that is involved with Cdex and the press release."
LMAO!! Ohhhh- you're a riot.
You are a shill that owns millions of CDEX shares.
Your "imho" is worthless, in fact, you are engaging in totally deceptive activity.
CDEx IS A SCAM!
You know it. I know it. And all the past PP investors that NEVER SAW A DIME on their investment knows it.
Invest in CDEx, kiss your money goodbye.
PhillipGT,
"Does anyone have an idea which company received the prototype G4 ?"
No, CDEX never disclosed the name of the company.
"Also, does anyone know if it was the G4 gifted or if it's on loan ?"
CDEX announced that it was "shipped" or "delivered", I forget which one, but you can rest assured it wasn't SOLD.
BTW, I don't believe them; I don't think they even have a working prototype.
"The person that called me back sounded a little young..."
It's the same old game:
Dr. R.B. Baker had his son Mark Baker working for the scam when it was Loch Harris.
MP had his son-in-law.
Poteet had is son .
Tim Shriver had is son junior, now I've read that the new CEO JB has his son working for CDEx.
It's called the gravy train.
"All trades today are sells at less than 3 cents. What is the meaning of that??"
That means that the CDEx salesmen trying to hawk worthless PP shares ain't going to get much- even if a "mark" (sucker) believes their line of BS.
Soon we will see if the imaginary G4 can accurately detect concentrations when one tosses an IV bag or syringe "into the belly*" of the IG4.
That is, if CDEX allows a qualified customer to see a REAL DEMO!
;)
* Quoted from Pennstreet- a CDEX stock promoter
Sea urchin,
I don't believe that pennstreet and you have any common friends, it's just a head fake.
This new poster using the pennstreet alias appears to be using a new tactic- killin' us (spit) bashers with kindness and understanding.
pennstreet poster may be getting zapped because the admin knows the game they're playing- multiple posters is a no-no.
What are you trying to do Pennstreet, debate me with kindness and understanding? LOL
Stop it, you're killin' me! LOL
Where's Roberto?
NO penstreet! CDEX isn't even "a leading developer", Loch Harris/CDEx is a SCAM company- Same players, same scam game.
JB stated in the last PR that they may sell several units in the next 6 months. Geez, profits from "several units" won't even touch the financial burn rate.
Why aren't they selling them NOW?
Oh yeah, CDEX actually has to design and build production units that work reliably. They also have to fix the existing problems with the old valimed units.
Then there's the huge number of signatures required for the IG4 (imaginary G4)....
....then they have to write the remaining 38 pages of the IG4 Operator's Manual, not just the Table of Contents carrot they released for PP suckers to see in the trademark application.
All the CDEX lies are so predictable, they've been using the exact same scamco blueprint for the past 15 years.
Only a fool would consider investing in CDEx without absolute positive verification that the products are selling.
NOT will sell, ARE SELLING!
KAPEESH?
Hello Sassey_Frasse...
Just in case I forget tomorrow, 12/09/11...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Are you still invested in CDEx?
LOL!!! I lost it reading the very first sentence of the PR:
"a leading developer of chemical detection products using patented technologies for use in healthcare, safety and security markets, today demonstrated its recently launched ValiMed(TM) G4 multi-component medication and narcotic detection system at the 46th Annual Midyear ASHP Clinical Meeting and Exhibition."
The very first sentence is a blatant lie. CDEx is NOT "a leading developer of chemical detection products".
So Ahura Scientific is second fiddle to CEDx?
BWHAAAhhahahahaha!!!
Ohhhhh... that's just too funny!!!
This SCAM is just plain disguisting!
Oh well, good luck to all the long suffering shareholders, I mean you all no disrespect, it's just the CDEX stock promoters (kidinsight/pennstreet/capnmike...etc.) and the crooks running this scam that turns my stomach.
"...please back up your reasons for confidence with cold hard facts, like any significant sales."
Sorry Streetpenn, cold hard facts get in the way when a CDEx shill is promoting a scam.
Moisture up in Seattle was probably an issue too.
The Myth gun doesn't work with moisture.
"...If all drip bags were axactly the same, and if UV in the atmosphere were not an interference problem"
I would think the IG4 still uses an optically isolated chamber to test samples where extraneous UV interferences are eliminated.
No CDEx products have been successfully "translated into the field" to my knowledge, not even the MYTH GUN.
Instruments like those of Ahura Scientific based soley on Raman Spectroscopy can be used in open air, but if UV Fluorescence is also used in concert, there will be interference obstacles to overcome.