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Lol, what last post?
I myself started a run up in the stock price of Alliqua late last year, completely unintentionally. There were trades at around $4.00, but it was hard for me to get enough volume, so I bid 7,000 at $4.20.
Same thing might be what happened today with MSLP, very little to buy at $9.00, so somebody like me with little patience just said fuck it, I'm not getting anywhere, let me throw the bid of 500 shares in at $9.45. It sounds a little too aggressive for that little quantity of shares, but if that was what the trader felt was what it took to get something bought, that be it.
When I bought 6,000 shares at $8.29 some weeks ago....I could probably have bought the shares at $8.20 had I been a little more calm....I did not have the time for that as I was late in the trading day, with only 30 minutes left, I felt the price level was good and that I should strike a little higher than the $8.20 level where lots of smaller volumes were going through...Dumb, aggressive, it might be...but I got the shares I wanted.
If I want some stock, I go for it...many times I pay a little too much, but I always secure I get what I came to get. Such a trader like me, makes the market much more fluctuating than the professional traders that nickel and dime on every trade. I personal hate trading, I love picking good stocks though.
I agree that some of the latest price action looks a little suspect to say the least. It does indeed look like somebody is pumping the price up....Whether it is a grand scheme or a coincidence, I should be the last to tell.
Hopefully, it is not because of a forthcoming disappointing result or some bad news in the shareholders' letter. It would definitely be the immediate assumption on such a suspicion, but it could be good results as well. Greed is a human trait and 20% up from $10 is $12 while 20% up from $8 is mere $9.6.
If you hold a lot of stocks, it might be worth overpaying $4000 over a few trading days, to make hundreds of thousands, if not millions more in return. At this stage it is very important for the stock price to recover as fast as possible back to the $12-14 stock price level.
There are lots of stock price manipulations for these kind of lightly traded stocks. Sometimes it is a trader with no insider knowledge that is trying to drive a stock price up to recover from some losses or making a profit selling later in the day. Other times it is an insider trading the stock price up prior to a good, bad or neutral result...MSLP's stock price will rarely be priced particularly efficiently, tending to be overvalued or undervalued most of the time.
lol, we will all be laughing all the way to the bank when the market proves you are wrong!
so Musclepharm pays people in Singapore to tweet?
c'mon! one month off was not too bad!
what a load of crap! Musclepharm is not selling old merchandise to Walmart to fix some channel stuffing at bodybuilding.com.
Revenues have increased at Musclepharm, so how should that be possible?
Channel stuffing is only real when revenues all of a sudden drop sharply from one quarter to another. I don't see any of that...
$14 stock if that is going to be the case and dilution is minimal.
actually, more like a $17 stock.....I cannot wait counting my money...
contracts always work both ways, if you disappoint there is a little less for you, if you perform well, you get a bonus.
Also, there are ways to get out of these contracts if both agrees to part ways. Athletes know that their market value fluctuates with their achievements...so they will be interested in abandoning the deal with Musclepharm if some other sports nutrition company can give them a better deal....and Musclepharm may profit from the transfer.
This is complicated and it is not given that it will happen, but at the end of the day, everything is up for sale, for the right price.
These contracts should be exclusive, meaning that Johnny Manziel cannot endorse any other sports nutrition company than Musclepharm.
baseballplayer forwarded some MSLP filing that said so. I'm not going to dig it up, I got the information I need for now.
Anyways, these endorsement payments are only reasonable as long as Musclepharm benefits from them. I don't think that Musclepharm capitalizes on much else than the UFC sponsorship and the Arnold Schwarzenegger endorsement as it is right now, and that is a concern of course.
No matter what, most of the $13.2 million has to be paid this year and it does increase the risk of the entire operation.
Like Joe's Jeans couldn't pay it's interest payments on it's loans, same scenario could happen to Musclepharm, that it cannot award these endorsement payments. At least Musclepharm doesn't have much debt though, so it might get away with issuing some more shares to these athletes if it needs to or release them from their endorsement contracts if they have increased market value and would rather endorse some other company.
if Musclepharm against all odds come out with a good result for the fourth quarter...like $50 million in revenue, then MSLP is a $14 stock within long time (if the dilution is kept down).
I doubt such a number even if Sam's Club and Walmart might contribute $4 million extra sales I presume. Sam's Club and Walmart don't really compete with those that shop at GNC.
GNC stores are typically located in better urban and suburban areas, while Sam's Clubs are placed in average suburban areas while Walmart is placed in average suburban and rural areas. So, the two channels are not entirely overlapping.
Costco and GNC customers come from some of the same social strata, but they belong to entirely different age groups...and those shopping at Costco tend to want more value for money.
the $13.2 million are only paid in full if certain performance milestones are met by the athletes. That will never be the case with the current endorsers, so most likely Musclepharm won't end up paying that much. Tiger Woods is not gonna deliver what he promised, so he will get a pay cut for sure.
The question is still whether any of these endorsers are gonna make much of an impact on Musclepharm's sales with the current marketing. I personally don't think they affect the sales much more than a few million dollars a year, and nothing in comparison to what they cost for Musclepharm.
Really, until Musclepharm is capable of distributing protein bars widely, at most gas stations and at most super markets nationwide, I see little promise for any energy shot product. Same thing with a water enhancing product like DROPZ.
Thing is that Musclepharm has started selling products through Walmart, but with none of them being high volume products like protein bars that could create lots of brand awareness.
Aren't these protein bars suppose to be widely available? I mean I see protein bars sold everywhere, but not a single place do I see anybody carrying Musclepharm Combat Crunch...
Let's say I drive down to the local 7 Eleven, can you promise me that I will find MP Combat Crunch? GNC is closed now, and I'm hungry!
I don't see Combat Crunch anywhere here in Miami, I have been looking everywhere and I just cannot find the product. Same thing with Coco Protein....so, Im wondering if these products exist at all?
My guess about revenue is $45-47 million for q4, not bad at all...but probably a disappointment to some. I believe that the management thought that it could sell for more, but that the decline and stagnating sales from depreciating foreign currencies and peaking products weren't offset by the additional sales through Walmart and Sam's Club.
I noticed that the 5 lbs Combat Whey Protein was on promotion at Costco, $8 off normal price. Many times you see these promotions when sales are a little underperforming.
bellator_exec is not Ryan Cassill. He has never claimed to have graduated from Brown University, which I'm quite sure he would have, had he attended that school.
It would be poor judgement if he were, as posting anything here could cost his job.
so what's up with Dr Eric Serrano? he is not a real scientist?
http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/learn-to-train-7-roundtable-part-2-dr-eric-serrano/
Perhaps Musclepharm needs to monitore more closely what this guy working for them is saying in public in his off-time, in particular when it ends up on youtube. What a terrible interview to have out in cyberspace.
Analyzing Schiff Nutrition and 5 Hour Energy's branding. Come up with something just as credible but a little more sporty and having Tiger Woods and Arnold Schwarzenegger endorsing it, you might be surprised how much money Musclepharm could make.
NVE Pharmaceuticals is out of the picture and I'm afraid that SK Energy will be prone to attacks and lawsuits from State Attorneys as it launches it's new Marvel line of products. These kind of products should not resemble toys and they should not be targeted kids. Kids have died from consuming these kind of energy shots, so any such marketing is very risky.
The problem is that Musclepharm signs too many high profile names all at once and it is extremely slow at using these names.
By the time Musclepharm is ready with a marketing plan for using Johnny and Colin, they are either retired or playing for Buffalo Bills. These endorsements are extremely expensive, so every month counts.
The Arnold Schwarzenegger endorsement and the UFC sponsorship are really all that Musclepharm needs for now....or at least only one endorser from NFL, not two at the same time.
5 Hour Energy spends close to everything on trade marketing and on TV advertising....and it works for the company as it sells for $2 billion a year. If you want to enter this space, you need to focus some resources on that, apart from some endorsements that nobody knows you got. Nike got lots of publicity regarding it's endorsements, so much more people are aware of them.
How many people are aware of Musclepharm's endorsements?
We need to allow Musclepharm to do some stupid things as that is part of the creative process. There is a limit to how stupid though as any mistake that could be avoided by due diligence should be avoided.
Definitely, Musclepharm needs to take it easy with diluting the stock going forward. The stock DID NOT rise last year, it shrank while Brad made more money than ever, increasing the risks for investors substantially.
Investors and analysts are going to be much more critical going forward during conference calls. So, the dilution and share buybacks better be put on the shelf in the new year or I fear a declining stock price.
lol, Zero means no calories...lots of companies use it.
It is not zero energy, even if some may read it that way.
Musclepharm Energy Sport and Musclepharm Energy Sport Zero are okay product names.
It's great to see Musclepharm continuously throwing things up against the wall, but some of these recent trademark registrations make you wonder if there is much thought process behind anything going on at Musclepharm.
These kind of names are typical from smaller companies without marketing professionals. So, why are the trademark registrations made?
I mean just because I come up with a name, like MP Swedish Meatball powder, that doesn't mean that I should trademark register that name.
Yeah, that's why Florida shouldn't even consider legalizing pot!
It has been announced that some energy product will be launched and endorsed by Tiger Woods.
I agree that there are quite a lot of uncertainties related to these product launches, given the product names that have been mentioned don't seem to be the greatest.
I do see some huge potential though, given Musclepharm got a manufacturing facility that may produce these products. The question is whether Musclepharm won't meet similar problems as NVE Pharmaceuticals from FDA inspectors, or from inspectors from State of California. Lots of redtape when you deal with FDA and the State of California for sure. Musclepharm has no experience in manufacturing, so trial and error approach may cost investors quite some money.
5 Hour Energy's closest competitor for many years seems to be facing some headwinds...
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm364258.htm
Pretty bad for a company that rose out of bankruptcy only a few years back in time.
nothing is original, even 5 Hour Energy founder admits that he imitated a product sold in Asia.
It's fine being original as long as you crack the code to winning in the market place.
Winning in this space requires a functional OTC consumer medicine name....silly names works well for the canned energy drink products because they aren't considered consumer medicine by anybody. In one 5 Hour Energy you got the caffeine of two cans of Monster Energy.
5 Hour Energy packaging looks like Halls cough drops or Aspirins, and that is no coincidence.
Don't look like the Berlin Wall for God's sake!...it is not gonna cut it!
DROPZ may work as a product name for canned energy drink....it is a silly name, but sometimes silly names sell in that space.
It is a very difficult market to crack though, I would stick to the energy shot market and carefully analyse 5 Hour Energy and every failed attempt to compete against it. There is a lot to learn from others mistakes.
The guy behind 5 Hour Energy seems to be the only one understanding what people are looking for, a non complex functional product name. The brand name carries a promise of hours of energy...what more can you ask for?
Other products got weird names and just don't seem to be legit.
Remember that Pepsico's success came from imitating Coca Cola very well. It picked another color, but made the bottle and logo look quite similar. The taste was a little different but not far from Coca Cola's. The marketing and sales strategies very similar too.
Musclepharm needs to do the same thing, don't try to be too original, not more than what is required by law as to not copying somebody else's product.
Yeah, but studying the multiple energy shot launches of the past, a silly product name like DROPZ is very likely to fail.
5 Hour Energy is popular because these kind of products command a functional name or a name tied to the ingredient, similar to Schiff Nutrition product names (that are brands in themselves).
I think Musclepharm got a shot in this space, but that it has to be careful not to launch the product with another nonsensical name. It should come up with names like Caffeine Energy, Endurance, 4EV Energy, Sport Energy, Combat Energy, etc.
Hitman, Dropz, Worx, etc....these names are not gonna cut it....not even with Monster Energy's logo on. The Energy Shots have to be marketed and launched as OTC medicine, these kind of names sell and they protect against lawsuits claiming that the marketing targets kids.
Musclepharm needs to reconsider it's product names.
Assault, Tyte and Dropz.... Why is Musclepharm using so many dumb names for core products?
Gatorade, corporate brand name and product brand name is the same.
5 Hour Energy...good functional name.
Musclepharm...a good name in itself.
Musclepharm Combat, okay I dig it...it is a relatively good name.
Really good product names are both edgy and serious simultaneously such as Schiff Nutrition's product names (that are brands in themselves).
DROPZ might be a bad name for a competing product of 5 Hour Energy though.
The name could be doomed to fail as it is doesn't get the point. Energy shots are functional products, that are meant to boost energy...so putting cartoon figures like SK Energy might be a problem if some kid dies. These products are exclusively meant for adults. 5 Hour Energy has gotten so famous because of the name and the logo. The name and logo tells you that this product will give you lots of lasting energy, that you will keep on running like the Duracell rabbit forever.
So names like SK Energy or Dropz may not cut it.
I believe that Musclepharm got a shot here...but mostly because of the name including the word pharm. These kind of products have to be marketed as over the counter semi-medicine.
http://vincos.tumblr.com/image/862182893
That is very true, stupid, lazy, convenience seeking customers is what you want.
Musclepharm will continue to expand at GNC and Walmart at the same time, because better economic times mean more stupid customers.
Time for Brad to market himself a little more. It doesn't cost much to be give interviews, telling the World his life story. Americans like sports, even if he never was particular famous or anything, still, he played in the NFL.
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/sports/5-successful-business-ventures-of-professional-athletes.html/?a=viewall
akron or toledo...where would you travel to if you were a Cuban dancer planning a vacation up North?
Worx got a lame packaging and marketing....way too serious and boring!
If you need to get your energy boosted, you are not suppose to fall asleep looking at the energy shot.
5 Hour Energy got a great name, it is as simple as those people that buy these products....which are lazy people that don't bother going to the bath room.
SK Energy got nice marketing, I love their Marvel line of products coming out....very clever marketing.
Musclepharm got it's bright packaging, the UFC sponsorship to sell these energy shots, along with Tiger Woods' endorsement. The UFC sponsorship being the greatest asset for sure.
Monster Energy is selling it's energy drinks because it talks the language of teenagers, white trash and black ghetto people....we got the bright colors, we got the monster girls with great bodies....anything somebody uneducated would find cool.
UFC talks to the same kind of people, and they will buy this product regardless what you say. UFC is their favorite sport, along with football and eating nachos.
American pop culture aka dumb americana sells...because people are bored worldwide and the Americans are the only ones that come up with brilliant dumb americana ideas like Wrestling, MMA, UFC, Football, Captain America, Jerry Springer....it's all dumb, but it sells things when you associate yourself with it.
Nobody would ever buy a product with the Harvard logo on it, because it is smart....football players are dumb, so we better pay attention to what they say.
Monster Energy's energy shot product had a terrible packaging. The Hitman bottle looked like a mini shampoo bottle from Comfort Inn
SK Energy has come up with an alternative bottle shape than 5 Hour Energy, Musclepharm should do something similar.
Also, another thing....Musclepharm should try making a product that tastes a whole lot better than any other energy shots. I believe the reason why Hitman didn't hit was that it tasted like shit.
Musclepharm as a brand name is not worth much more than Cheetah in the Tarzan movies.