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When they announce new date for 10billion shares vote I will buy.
Then it will be prime at a tenth of a penny.
Appreciated that someone likes to look at both sides of vision. I too wish there was a way for both sides to be told and heard. The opposing opinion too often gets blunted as off topic. I too have been in a long time still way in the red. Take care and happier investing to you.
WOW, and why do we care about the billionaire? That gets us closer to financing how?
Then I assume that means because they won the edison award. That means something also. Is Patrick going to invest? Maybe edison will too, oh wait a minute hes dead.
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Thank you. I agree with that squid guy.
Lousy management again WOW all those revenues pouring in to the coffers and they forgot to write it in the ledger because I dont see those revenues. Lousy management
They have had product for 4 years and have no financing. Nothing more than 1 contract for 2 or 3 trucks a month for testing. Everything is buried in 10Q and 10k. No patents on software , no protection of the product. No amount of spin will change the facts. Public Relations is non existent. They are lousy because if they were to come out with a PR saying the A/S is OFFFF the table and the Public Perception of an A/S is OFFFF the table. We go to 50 cents in a few hours. Creating deeper pockets, confidence and base. We hit Nasdaq in days not years. That is lousy management.
It IMO is a horribly run company. Seems like decent product but they just have no clue at what they are doing.
There is nothing to propel buying. Oh my bad yes there is. Announce to the world. We will NO LONGER purse A/S increase to 10 Billion ! Then its 50 cents in a few hours.
I guess we just have to agree to disagree on this , the reason they don't buy has nothing, repeat nothing to do with shorts or MM'S The reason is they dont want to enter the pearly gates of heaven to realize there is no floor and the slippery slide into hell is before them. They IMO have got to take it off the table.
True. The way I 'm thinking an a lot of other longs is, hey I can get a lot more shares to go long with at .002 Take that issue off the table. And I will try and go long at 2 cents in the morning that's all I am saying.
Yes we get it power it is NOT going to happen but the DD was the same 6 monrhs ago and they didnt have the votes then. That didnt stop them from announcing the 10 billion now did it. With all we know how do you not see that is why people are not wanting to buy.
Totally agree I am drooling all over myself power to buy LOL. But if they don't put the thought to rest, I might as well just wait til it hits below sub then I can get 10x the amount. How many people are sitting there like me saying same thing damn I want in but gotta kill that issue.
Sorry MyPenny Just annoyed I'm sitting on 13,000.00 I want to buy but I'm like okay I will buy at 2 or 4 or 5 cents and then boom another letter says were gonna try the vote again. Now I know they wont get the votes but fat lot a good that does me if I buy at 4 cents and it goes back to sub silly land. Im not buying til they announce no more.
NO, If one is truly long they have that information.
I am only 1 voice. Call, fax, email them. It's your money. Trust in public pressure. Public pressure always creates change.
lyIn every way known to man , I even thought of sending flowers with my thoughts on the card. But its gotta come out in a PR, I now totally understand this A/S is NOT going to happen because they don't have the votes. But they knew they wouldnt get it through before, and still announced it and scared everyone. hey have to publicly remove this perception.
JMO But I think what has happened is that the perception is this is a sub penny. 99% aren't doing any DD why would they if I were day trading I wouldn't do any DD either. The last thing anyone has "officially" seen was VIIC OTCBB to increase shares to 10 billion. So it is trading like there are 10 billion. Until the company says there are not and will not be, nothing happens. In my research, there isn't much in the way of news coming anytime soon. Nothing of any substance. Only one of two scenarios moves this stock. 1) The unknown , buyout, large contract etc,etc newsworthy. And then there is my favorite.
They have GOT to come out and say this A/S perception is NOT going to happen. Then it's off to the races. Any thoughts am I really the only one that believes we dont move until they first say no A/S.
I am familiar with what a chart is. I just think what we see are ghost trades perhaps for day trading they serve a purpose. How is it that you see 2 or 3 million in buys with not one sell but the price drops. Not knocking your work just dont believe the data
If anyone thinks charts mean anything. They dont
It's called a buying opportunity. HeHe
You Guys led me, I had to do the DD myself. You were right this thing will explode at some point the daily nonsense is comical though. No longer worried but I do wish they would announce it being done so we can go parabolic get rid of the penny pinchers
10Q 6/2014 Only 21 million shares available. HeHe
Only 21,322,722 Shares Left All others Locked Up!
Buy as many as you can, as fast as you can.
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Fascinating, does this rule apply to NYSE,NASDAQ or is this a OTCBB Pink rule.
Why in your opinion does this not happen to all tickers. My assumption is that naked shorters only would do this sporatically to keep it under the radar. How does this action fly if the market makers role is to maintain a liquid market?
There are NO shares out there, not for dilution and not to buy. This thing goes parabolic. WOW.
As I said if power and Blanka are right I tip my hat. Therefore I do so. I had to do the DD myself. There are NO shares out there.
Buzz I agree, but it is irrelevant.
I now believe the A/S will not happen, If you understand the product to be viable the A/S actually might not be bad, But it is not
going to happen and hear is why.
Our articles of incorporation could be amended at any time by a small group of persons, who control over 50% of the our shares.
On February 4, 2013, the Company entered into a new agreement with QIF Malta 1 Ltd. (“QIF”), for a principal sum of $1,290,000,
plus the previous loan amount of $500,000 (dated September 12, 2012), which included outstanding interest, pursuant to a new Loan
Agreement (“New Loan”). The outstanding principal balance of the New Loan bears interest at the rate of 8% per annum and does not
include a conversion feature. The total amount due of $1,790,000, plus outstanding interest, is payable to QIF in three equal
installments on October 31, 2013, November 30, 2013, and June 30, 2014. The New Loan also includes a non-dilution clause, applied
to QIF and to five other entities that collectively held a 57% majority interest in Vision.
So far this tells us that 57% majority ownership is controlled by 6 enities, which includes a non-dilution clause. (They will certainly not be
voting to authorize shares, duh.) Therefore whatever these enities want, they get.
Add to that the fact that beneficial ownership (insiders) own 27.58%. My numbers are based on the latest 10Q and my proxy vote invite
which stated 138,279,647 shares outstanding. Combined between those 6 enities and Vision VIIC insiders. They control 84.58% or
116,956,925 shares,
138,279,647 shares outstanding, 116,956,925 shares "Locked UP". That only leaves 21,322,722 shares. Which leads us to estimate.
How many do you have.? After crunching the numbers myself, I believe there are a good chunk of shares that are probably sitting in the
pockets of many of the posters on this board. So IMO if you are already in add to it. If you are not in best get in early monday.
Excellent and very well said. You encapsulate that perfectly. I guess that begs several questions for many. The real world testing has been underway for more than 3 years. The concept, design, and build happened before testing with TTSI. So one of my concerns is does this actually work? Is VIIC product sustainable? Why hasnt someone bought this company because we all say to ourselves wow this could be bigger than Karl Benz. We have seen a few snippets of interviews that say wow this thing is great. However I would love to see and hear from the drivers that are actually using these trucks. Mr LaRosa from TTSI said yeah ya know if this thing holds up like it seems to be doing with no real major problems Bada Bing.
I am not quite sure why this conference means anything to anyone. It seems to me like it is just a sales call. A lot of times in penny stocks the PR is everything because there is nothing else, just pretty pictures. So they go to make the sales pitch in Germany, and that does what? The people presenting and those that are being presented to are certainly aware of hydrogen fuel cell trucks. This is their world no one at the conference is gonna fall out of the chair and reach for the checkbook. LOL I mean it's for sure a good thing that he is trying to make some contacts, but for me to make a decision based on a sales presentation?
Clarity is a great concept. Here is clarity.
"We did not receive enough votes to achieve a quorum to hold
the special meeting. We will therefore continue to solicit your vote. Your vote is important no matter how many shares you own .Thank you for your investment in Vision. You will be hearing from us soon as to the date for the adjourned shareholder meeting."
Martin Schuermann
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Long Beach, California
August 27,2014
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Demand that your Chairman and CEO immediately file for clarity. Demand that the authorization of 10 Billllllion Shares be taken OFF the table.
"We did not receive enough votes to achieve a quorum to hold
the special meeting. We will therefore continue to solicit your vote. Your vote is important no matter how many shares you own .Thank you for your investment in Vision. You will be hearing from us soon as to the date for the adjourned shareholder meeting."
Martin Schuermann
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Long Beach, California
August 27,2014
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Thanks, and thank yourself for protecting your investment. Spread the word demand that your Chairman and CEO IMMEDIATELY take the A/S issue off the table. He does work for us. Long day, have a great night all.
Thanks Nathaniel, I am so passionate about this issue and thanks I appreciate it. I don't have private so I couldnt hit you back. Now following you. So many good things could happen here but they need to get their act together. This A/S thing is beyond toxic and we all know it,and its just being disregarded by so many people it is tough. I am only one voice. I need help take care. BTW east coast time.
That is exactly right. All they have to do Monday morning is come out with a another filing with the SEC stating that in keeping with our fiduciary duty which is to our stockholders, we believe because a quorum was not available it is in the best interest of our shareholders that we now aggressively seek financing to implement full commercialization, and therefore will NOT pursue the authorization for an increase of shares. That happens and Vision is 50 cents by noon.
Demand answers, Demand that the A/S be taken off the table permanently. Be heard call your Chairman and CEO. He works for you.
As with any stock board ticker their is plenty of manipulation and VIIC is no different. I have also made placements only to have the MM's manipulate the timing. And then later it will post on the account. If you were watching today one of the MM'S wasnt there anymore and has been removed.
I would imagine that you would be very hard pressed to find anyone that believes playing penny stocks is without risk, and that is no different with VIIC. The price will fluctuate 10% easily for months and months. Traders will have a field day and are going to make a ton of money. For me I define long as minimum 2 years. I just wish people would not vilify each other and the motives that anyone has. Some have very simple strategies they will buy VIIC and check back in a few years. Some will watch the ticker all day. I am long. Some want to drive it down, some want to drive it up and some jut like to say whatever is on their mind about Vision. As many know, I want everyone to call the CEO and demand they take the A/S issue of the table that is MY strategy because if we do not resolve that issue like yesterday no serious investments will come in and it is CURRENTLY scaring many away. Eeeeew I'm not buying that they are about to flood the market with 10 billion share. We have strategies all of us, lets respect it.
I think my analysis is correct on VIIC and I stand by my speculation. I stand by that post thanks for the re-post though I couldn't find it.
Timberrrrrrrrrr at this rate I don't think anyone will be able to get out in time. And what makes it tougher is the sells are big ones not little 5k 10k
At .015 The Bottom Falls Out Weeeeeeeeeeee.