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True they have a demo, we just gotta hope it was worth all this wait.
Are we being blind and stubborn? Reaction is not looking good to the PPS. I never understand why people react to CC's in such a negative manner.
This happened with ATNP also, but fortunately in time it hit the penny. There is always still hope. Just don't understand why people bail on CC's after.
Probably won't see a significant jump in price monday, but it should hopefully let the investors know the product is real.
Then when the following PR's come out, there is more validity behind what they are doing and hopefully better responses to PPS.
For a newbie what does this mean? High volume or heavy dilution. Is this good or bad thing that 2010 has so much more?
It is a shame there were a lot of complications with getting the demo ready. The only fault is that he announced it too early. He is going through great lengths to keep his investors updated, which means we know whenever there is a problem. Other companies would release a PR every couple of months after a lot of things both good and bad have already happened.
I think you are one of the believers too. In the end, the fact that the demo was delayed a few weeks isn't going to mean anything a year from now. By then they should hopefully have tv commercials and mp4 advertisements showing how the product works to the general public.
Constant updates on every move is bad for pps, however they are the only one I can really trust because of that. That is why I am still mostly invested here, and continue to come back.
HFBG still on most active boards. With these attractive prices and a PR summing up the CC, maybe we can get this train going again.
Its crazy because it happens so quick and you just want to say, wait a minute can I take that back?!?!
I sold this yesterday at market value. Only had 39 dollars worth. Thought maybe I could get half back, but I guess market value was 0.00001. Commission was more than the sale.
That was a hard lesson to sell at market but it was fortunately only a 39 dollar investment.
I will be jealous if this thing does start to move now.
I wish I had more money to average down. All I can do is wait for it to get where I need it to be. This is twice I've seen pps tank after a CC. What are people expecting, that they found the cure for cancer?
I'm sure they will PR the conference call, but we are all looking forward to an update from those able to listen in. I am at work and did not have the opportunity to listen in.
Don't sugar coat it. We just like the facts :)
Alright, both sides made good points and are right. Lets not turn on each other. Stay positive and lets just get the results from the CC and move foward.
I think we all want the best here.
That's what I am worried about. CC call has been built up so much that if they don't deliver a bombshell of a news (like a buyout), people will panic and sell even though the CC was still very positive about the direction they want take the company.
I wouldn't want to see a buyout at this moment anyways. The pps is too low. I want to see them get to a penny first. Then talk :)
When they push the GO PHONE second half of the year will be your exit point. Most likely it will be mine too. I am think you will be able to exit with profit though.
I'm saying imagine a true believer that held through two 10:1 forward splits before that.
That is an early retirement on a stock that made it to a penny.
According to the article, it looks like the GO PHONE will be towards completion second half of 2010. That will be the new thing to push this back to a penny after the forward split.
Good find.
Looks like we build ourselves up too much becasue we are already in it. No one else is showing up for the show. Pray this CC sparks some life here or .......
If you think this stock is a scam, you should have seen some of the other ones I've been involved with.
This one at least gives you forward splits and dividends. Those that held in the beginning through all the splits would have made BANK at that last penny hit. Twice they dit 10:1 forward splits.
It will be back at the penny, I just don't think you have the patience to wait around. This is a product that will eventually start TV advertising. You can't expect everything to be perfect on a brand new product. Some claim this product could be revolutionary. I am not looking for that though. I just want a product with a 0.01 PPS and I think this will hit it again.
After the split it went to the 0.000s and thought it was over and a POS, then sure enough a few months later it was hitting the penny.
0.015 ?? Your crazy. I like you, but you're crazy. If we can get to the 0.003 to 0.004 range today that would be a very big step in itself.
Good post. I feel the same way. I hope this price is rising based on the new management and strategic alliance and not on the rumors of the buyout. Otherwise if everyone is buying on belief of a buyout and they find out there isn't one from the CC, there may be a panic sale and the pps will come tumbling down again :(
I hear yah and wish I could have but all my money was tied up in two other pics.
Yes it would feel nice to be at even again. I bought in at 0.0035 thinking we were going to take off. Now I'm praying to break even tomorrow and enter profit territory hopefully if it was a good CC.
Jealous of those that waited and bought in the past few days.
This CC will most likely talk about the new direction they are heading. I hope investors don't misinterpret the CC as bad news if they do not announce a buyout.
News tomorrow?!
If there was a buyout by another company, how does that translate to the shareholders. A price will be determined and we will just get paid?
Could we hit the penny before the split, or is that a pipe dream?
Possible crash after CC? I've seen it happen before with other stocks and couldn't understand why.
Actually wouldn't the worth go up for ATNP? Who gets the money for the sale :)
Excellent question. Fortunately we are getting divis in gotv based on our atnp shares, so we could get a piece of the action.
I was impressed because you said that one minute before it was released.
This company loves the PR Blitz. Though it may have a negative effect sometimes, I trust this company the most because I know every step they are taking. That is why I continue to consolidate and invest more here. I see the potential a year down the road.
This company loves the PR Blitz. Though it may have a negative effect sometimes, I trust this company the most because I know every step they are taking. That is why I continue to consolidate and invest more here. I see the potential a year down the road.
What are you the Oracle? :)
If we could follow this by the demo announcement our upward movement should hold.
Well if we are to believe ageorge on here who has supposedly talk with the CEO multiple times, he is putting together the operation with some success, however we will not get any updates for months.
Really appreciated it for your effort. I am very naive and trust in the operation, but I can only go off internet PR. It would be nice to hear from someone that has been there and actually took a look around.
Maybe each of us will chip in 5 shares post split for your work :)
I am one of those limited investors who bought in at 0.0035 and watched it plummet after. I held because I had this silly idea that it was going to get to a penny by the end of the month.....
Was the Sam Adams just a post from some Joe Smoe like us in a discussion board? I am finding it very hard to believe that they would get involved.
This pleases you that he will not update the shareholders for months?
A PR puts what he has to say in writing and puts it out there for the public to see. It puts merit and liability behind what he says.
He made the profits and does not want to share that info?!?! Are there agreements being made? How are we supposed to know. At least say that you are currently in negotiations. If months go by, we are to assume the agreements did not go through. Does he want to take each investor on a call by call basis? A PR allows him to run his business. He should not be bothered with phone calls from the shareholders daily.
It is one thing to let 2 months go by, but to say months and months and months of no PR is not good. If he is not concerned about investors go private. We have some rights when we invest money to get some sort of formal update. At least put out something quarterly.
I am starting to get jealous of the investors that are hoping in now at the much better rates :(
Did you sell for a loss because you think there is no hope, or you just don't want to wait around and see opportunity elsewhere?
I just don't understand why one sell right before the demo. You might have saved a few points. Also the list of things down the pipeline from the board meeting I think will get the stock up.
Of course if you see something that is moving right now and want to move it there I can understand that.