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I agree with you fully. I have endured 3 R/S's in two years and took a beating! I also felt this company and Ted may prove to be an exception and maybe succeed? I even had a long phone call with Ted 6 months ago. He told me that we are moving forward, be patient and stick with me. We will all succeed in time!
I sold out 3 month ago at a loss of $4000! Bought High!
My feeling from the beginning and even talking to Ted was they lacked funds? It proved to be correct.
I do think Ted means well and wants to succeed. I say start all over as I think this still has success potential! But(TED)himself must make himself available rather than the P/R clown who is just a puppet!
Here that Ted? Ddon't screw all of us. Please talk from your hearth and future plans?
I sent that exact statement and action myself to Steve and Ted. They never replied. I even re-sent and again no reply.
I agree with you and what you say. But I still will not be surprised with a R/S because there are too many shares out there for this stock to ever move! Steve will say, I am sorry but I have no choice if we are ever going to get any stock value back!
I spoke to the CEO on 5-15-08 and posted my first post regarding that phone conversation at 3:41 PM. I went on to spell things out a little more clearly in the 4-5 following posts that same day.
People thought I was insane and some kind of idiot? Read my posts from that day as I really tried to help all involved. I hope someone tries to help me with some important inside info in the future if they see me on the board? I hope a few people listened and believed me?
I know how you all feel as I went through 3 R/S's in two years!
You are right. A R/S will all but bury this stock. I have been through 3 of them! That is why I sold all my 13.5 million shares 3 weeks ago as I do expect this to happen and Steve to open a new company. NUBV will help in marketing and try to diversify?
I bought(PNHL) hoping to get back some money.....? I took a killing in the past year!
I will monitor where Steve is headed and if it is with a new company stock and he does show he owns the patent, I may give it another chance?
Any good email addresses to contact someone at the company?
I only bought into this 1 month ago. It seemed to have much potential! It is looking I made a mistake?
All the PR's look great and offer hope. I was in this stock staring 8 months ago deep! I finally sold as I realized the company lacks funds and the bottom line is you need it to purchase and sale the product! Sales agreement are easy. But to take a good product and sale it is the real game!!! I was hoping to see things have changed to get back in? But I am still seeing the same progress and PR's from 6-8 months ago when I was personally talking to Ted! I still think this can succeed if Ted does not dilute the stock and gets someone to invest in the company who will have some funds?
No response to my last 3 emails!
I am new to this stock and from what I am seeing is different statements of outstanding shares? Pink Sheet website is showing the following. Any feedback will be appreciated...!
Outstanding Shares
3,818,734,000 as of Feb 25, 2008
New to this stock. I just bought into this 7-8 days ago after selling off dead stock I took a beating on! I am hearing about a buy out or purchase of another company the past few days? Can someone briefly education me on this along with a reference of something like 10:1? I would appreciate any help....?
Never going to waste my time which I have little to spend 30 minutes trying to give facts, speculation and possibilities with only good intentions. I will be watching this stock but will never post again! My last post is listed below if anyone wants to read it? Hope it helps. But most people will not read in full and keep an open mind. I have been in penny stocks for 3 years and know what they are all about! REPOST Below:
I just got home from work and found all these new posts in regard to what I wrote. I will only post one more time and in facts and guts feeling from my conversation from the CEO.
(1) I got out from not just what I heard but because I went through 3 R/S's. I saw 5-6 million shares become 50-500 shares each time!
(2) I do think this company has moderate to long time potential.
(3) The CEO did state he does not know much about stocks and how they work. He could reverse several things he said and it may never happen? I did sell because I was told no PR for several weeks. We can't get any lower than we are now! I will monitor the this stock during that time?
(4) There has been some some modest revenue gains but the CEO is concerned about the outstanding shares and did say those "dreaded words"!
(5) A thought? What will come first if this CEO who may be confused, a somewhat positive PR or two or a R/S?
(6) I AGREE WITH allot of people's posts normally. Not too many outstanding shares. Why A REVERSE SPLIT? THE COMPANY will loose shareholder trust and loyalty!!!
(7) MY GUT FEELING IS THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW much about the stock market and penny stocks. He did say they had hoped to generate revenue and was surprised with the results?
(8) SO Anything can happen? Like I said in one of my posts:
The exact words from CEO were "we know the value is so low"! We were expecting to generate revenue? I also know the company feels that even at appx. 1 billion shares outstanding and with some positive news coming, exact words, "Too many shares out there"! My guess it they feel "what will shares bought at 0.0001 and 0.0002 bring in"? Maybe more dilution?
My feeling is that they want to show they are on a slow but positive path! They want to create credibility and value!
My opinion? PR's with a R/S to create value so they can increase sales and distribution when they approach potential business deals. And hopefully stock value will hold at a decent value and people will buy in!!!!
I KNOW THIS IS DIFFICULT AND IF I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT I DID AND EXPERIENCE R/S's I WOULD STAY IN! I ALSO FEEL THE CEO COULD COMPLETELY CHANGE HIS MIND? Like someone said, "Like playing the lottery"!!!
IN Closing, I am being honest and trying to help? Please someday if you hear something about a stock I am also in return the favor even if I don't want to hear it.....! Give me a "head up"?
Just got home from work and found all these new posts in regard to what I wrote. I will only post one more time and in facts and guts feeling from my conversation.
(1) I got out from not just what I heard but because I went through 3 R/S's. I saw 5-6 million shares become 50-500 shares each time!
(2) I do think this company has moderate to long time potential.
(3) The CEO did state he does not know much about stocks and how they work. He could reverse several things he said and it may never happen? I did sell because I was told no PR for several weeks. We can't get any lower than we are now! I will monitor the this stock during that time?
(4) There has been some some modest revenue gains but the CEO is concerned about the outstanding shares and did say those "dreaded words"!
(5) A thought? What will come first if this CEO who may be confused, a somewhat positive PR or two or a R/S?
(6) I AGREE WITH allot of people's posts normally. Not too many outstanding shares. Why A REVERSE SPLIT? THE COMPANY will loose sharholder trust and loyalty!!!
(7) MY GUT FEELING IS THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW much about the stock market and penny stocks. He did say they had hoped to generate revenue and was surprised with the results?
(8) SO Anything can happen? Like I said in one of my posts:
The exact words from CEO were "we know the value is so low"! We were expecting to generate revenue? I also know the company feels that even at appx. 1 billion shares outstanding and with some positive news coming, exact words, "Too many shares out there"! My guess it they feel "what will shares bought at 0.0001 and 0.0002 bring in"? Maybe more dilution?
My feeling is that they want to show they are on a slow but positive path! They want to create credibility and value!
My opinion? PR's with a R/S to create value so they can increase sales and distribution when they approach potential business deals. And hopefully stock value will hold at a decent value and people will buy in!!!!
I KNOW THIS IS DIFFICULT AND IF I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT I DID AND EXPERIENCE R/S's I WOULD STAY IN! I ALSO FEEL THE CEO COULD COMPLETELY CHANGE HIS MIND? Like someone said, "Like playing the lottery"!!!
IN Closing, I am being honest and trying to help? Please someday if you hear something about a stock I am also in return the favor even if I don't want to hear it.....! Give me a "head up"?
I can state the facts and my gut feeling feedback after my cell phone call with the CEO?
(1) Some positive news coming in a few weeks. Nothing huge but progress.
(2) I feel this could be a real start up company with sales and revenue hitting 1 million 1st quarter of 2009. As of now there has been a increase in revenue.
(3) What specific PR 's will be released were not talked about as I was asked to call back in a few weeks.
(4) I agree that the volume was up today and outstanding shares are not very high! But the exact words from CEO were we know the value is so low! We were expecting to generate revenue? I also know the company feels that even at appx. 1 billion shares outstanding and with some positive news coming, "exact words, Too many shares out there! My guess, what will shares bought at 0.0001 and 0.0002 bring in? Maybe more dilution?
(5) My feeling is that they want to show they are on a slow but positive path. They want to create credibility and value!
(6) My opinion? PR's with a R/S to create value so they can increase sales and distribution when they approach potential business deals. And hopefully stock value will hold at a decent value and people will buy in?
(7) Risks? Will PR's come first or the potential R/S?
(8) I sold out today but will watch this in the weeks ahead and make that other phone call if the PR's do not come out first?
Remember: I SPOKE TO A SUB PENNY CEO. THIS IS JUST MY FEEDBACK FROM THE TALK WE HAD. THIS ALL CAN CHANGE AS WE ALL KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN DEALING IN PENNY STOCK IN THE PAST 2-3 YEARS!!!
WE ALL HAVE BEEN LIED TO AND SCREWED IN THE PAST!!!
I did hear those (dreaded) words but no details on how bad? That is why he asked to call back in a fews weeks? He is uncertain of all that will be PR'd? Also about the volume of shares out there which the company knows they have to act! But to what degree?
Remains to be seen?
Then we don't know if a good PR will come first then the R/S?
But revenue has increased modestly and some distributors are being added.
Thank you for the words of hope for better results?
I even bought another 10,000 shares at 3:35 to the previous 850,000 I bought 2 hours earlier to try and keep the value up only to see I wasted my time!
I am confused as to why people are selling despite revenue being generated and outstanding shares being somewhat low as I am being told? Very weird! Am I missing something?
Only if the PR's come out before a possible R/S. This is the risk? If the PR's come first, Sell! If not, you know what happens!
it is either people selling out or dilution followed by some promising PR's in a few weeks.
But remember, I was told the company knows that too many shares are our there and that may lead to....?
I made the call as I had to come home at 2:00 with a bad head cold! I did talk to the CEO and got some info. I was also told to follow up in a few weeks? I will not post what we talked about but will give you this. Don't expect something for a few weeks. Then some positive news? Not great but encouraging for the future. I will say that the company knows there are too many shares out there. That is all I can say? If a good PR"s comes first, it may be wise to sell? But something else could happen first?
Thank you!
Do you know what the outstanding shares count is at this time frame?
Any gut feeling or speculation on this stock and where it may be heading?
Thank you for the reply. I was so upset I just realized I wrote quickly with poor typing and didn't check before I sent!
Repost:
I just bought 850,000 shares at 2:35 and I see now the stock value went down from 0.0008 to 0.0006.......!
How in the world can that happen when I see nobody else made a transaction? I just see now before my buy this happened below in sells!
14:25:11 Q 0.0006 -0.0002 250,000
14:24:34 Q 0.0006 -0.0002 500,000
But my buy should offset this if it came after the sales, correct?
I just bought 850,000 shares at 2:35 and I see not the stock value with down from 0.0008 to 0.0006.......!
How in the word can that happen when I see nobody else made a transaction? I just saw before my buy this happened below in sells!
14:25:11 Q 0.0006 -0.0002 250,000
14:24:34 Q 0.0006 -0.0002 500,000
But my buy should off set this?
Time to contact the SEC to investigate past PR's to see how badly we have been mislead?
I sent this to the president of the company. A similar 3rd try to get any info? No reply again! I think this may be a shell? Here is my latest email:
I wanted to talk to you and was grateful for the phone number once I get free time out of work? But with the above results and your total unwillingness to reply only even 1 sentence leads me to the the following:
CALLING YOU WILL NOT BE AN OPTION ANY LONGER UNLESS YOU CAN SAY IN (1)
SENTENCE, "THINGS ARE NOT AS BAD AS THEY LOOK AND I SEE SOME POSITIVE
NEWS COMING! Everyone feels this is a dead stock and only a shell of a company! Looks like another big loss for me....!
Will
I sent this to the president of the company. A similar 3rd try to get any info? No reply again! I think this may be a shell? Here is my latest email:
I wanted to talk to you and was grateful for the phone number once I get free time out of work? But with the above results and your total unwillingness to reply only even 1 sentence leads me to the the following:
CALLING YOU WILL NOT BE AN OPTION ANY LONGER UNLESS YOU CAN SAY IN (1)
SENTENCE, "THINGS ARE NOT AS BAD AS THEY LOOK AND I SEE SOME POSITIVE
NEWS COMING! Everyone feels this is a dead stock and only a shell of a company! Looks like another big loss for me....!
Will
Since the rumor of the NUBV patent sold or licensed to TCHL was posted and somewhat confirmed, look at you stock value. It went from 0.04 to 0.008! Do your research on NUBV? You will see and find the answers why this took a huge value drop in one week!
We took a huge loss at NUBV and sure hope your future stock success is not nearly so bad!!!
2008-05-05 Q : TCHL 0.04 0.04 0.028 0.028 -0.004 110,519 14 0.0135
2008-05-02 Q : TCHL 0.021 0.032 0.021 0.032 0.005 429,500 13 0.03 0.032
2008-05-01 Q : TCHL 0.026 0.036 0.021 0.027 0.002 272,400 24 0.021 0.027
2008-04-30 Q : TCHL 0.023 0.029 0.017 0.025 -0.004 198,000 16 0.02 0.026
2008-04-29 Q : TCHL 0.045 0.047 0.024 0.029 -0.005 286,208 33 0.02 0.029
2008-04-28 Q : TCHL 0.045 0.05 0.034 0.034 -0.006 518,457 42 0.03 0.033
2008-04-25 Q : TCHL 0.033 0.04 0.033 0.04 0.005 246,080 24 0.04 0.042
In know you were! I just wanted to make a statement why I may not follow through with the phone call?
I agree as I received this from Ted 3 days ago.
RE: From Will, Hoping for the best?
From: "Ted Segal" <tsegal@nutripurebeverages.com>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:48:28 -0700
To:"Will" <xxxgan@epix.net>
Hi Will: Steve asked that I respond to your e-mail of May 6, 2008. Between
my regular work and all the
E-mails coming in it is difficult to respond immediately. Steve is in the midst of final settlement
Negotiations but has no specific idea what will ultimately happen to the shareholders.
If I get some free time I still may take him up on his offer and call him(President Bob Segersten)? But with two email requests asking him to give me even (one good word) like "things are not as bad as they look or I have some future news to talk about", gives me a strong feeling it would be a waste of time! Just some words of bull...!
What can we talk about? (0.0001?)
Yes! I agree. I just sold 5 million shares at 0.0001 from the 12 million I had today! Many were bought at around 0.0008! I wrote these two email to Ted and Steve below with no reply. I am sure this will get deleted...!
Below is just my opinion only and hope to put some sense in the players involved!!!
Ted,
Thank you for the reply. I understand it must be overwhelming with all the questions coming in!
The uncertainty about how shareholders will be effected does not sound good? I think we will be left behind with no value in return for our
$5000 to $10,000 investments. (I just want to say this and please forward to the other side.......!)
I know if this happens, with the caliber, knowledge and determination of 30-40 of the largest investors, they will launch a campaign against anyone or any company who causes harm and action to their investment! This mean law suits and SEC charges!!!
There will be no winner if some suitable settlement is not arranged? It is like the movie about 15 years ago, "War Games".
The only solution finally reached will be there can be "No Winner playing this game"!
Lest hope for the best!
Steve, Ted and All.....
Again another thought for all parties why from what I am hearing why there will be no winner if shareholder are effected badly. Please read in full and also pass this on:
(1) No penny stock ever recovered when the shareholders were badly effected. This stock and product would be "dead for good" like the flat line value currently is at 0.0001 or lower.
(2) I do not spend allot of time on all the boards but do read the highlights and read interesting posts. Ron, Steve and all the players have a long history with many of these current shareholders and know them well. They know all the history and movements for the past 5 years.
(3) I believe they will launch a huge public release of negative information and stock bulletin boards data and statements against whoever "thinks they won this case"????
(4) Again "No Winner", No Product or new company will get off the ground unless whoever the "idiots" out there are get more intelligent quickly!
(5) (I am not referring to Steve as I have supported him!) But if he comes up winning and what he does greatly effects the shareholders in a negative manner, this unfortunately will be his end result. There are allot of people out there who have something against him?
Email to and from President Bob Segersten
Please read from and to emails. I just can't find the time to contact him based on work circumstances and he has refused to offer any feedback via email. Maybe you guys can and (share any feedback with me)? wnmorgan@epix.net
Two Email addresses and phone listed. I will not give you his private cell phone number he left with me as he asked not to give it to anyone in his voicemail he sent!
Will,
I'll give you a call if you can let me know how to contact you.
Best regards,
Robert Segersten
President
Solos Endoscopy, Inc.
Boston/Dedham Commerce Park
65 Sprague Street
Boston, MA 02136
ph: +1.617.360.9700
email: rsegersten@solosendoscopy.com
email: ldobay@solosendoscopy.com
Mr. Bob Segersten, President
Thank you for the opportunity to call you as you left a welcome voice mail on my cell phone while I was in work.
I still hope to call and talk. But as I wrote before, I work at a
security enforced government facility. I can't even login to home email or any stock websites. Even cell phones don't always receive good reception.
Please at least answer this question even in a few words. Give me
(1) good reason why I shouldn't sell my 5,000,000 most bought at 0.0025 at (0.0002) if I can even get it? This stock has been running most of the week at 0.0001!
(2) There has been NO good news, words of encouragements or financial information? Most people feel you are sure to file Bankruptcy?
CALLING YOU WILL NOT BE AN OPTION ANY LONGER UNLESS YOU CAN SAY IN (1) SENTENCE, "THINGS ARE NOT AS BAD AS THEY LOOK AND I SEE SOME POSITIVE NEWS COMING!
I have been away for awhile and just decided to come back and check things out? The Outstanding shares is not bad for a sub penny stock! Why do you see a reverse split?
I do believe company funds are a problem and that is why I sold off my shares 4 months ago! But now it has my interest again?
Outstanding Shares: 714,445,091
Restricted Shares: 319,547,951
Float: 394,897,140
verified from T/A on 04/14/2008
From Ted two days ago. FYI
Will: I checked with the attorney and it was what I thought it was. Ron and
Doc were discharged but Zouvas was kept in. He is the main character since
he is the interim President of NutriPure which is a Nevada corporation.
The beat goes on to the next appearance in Court which is still scheduled for May 12, 2008.
I couldn't find anything else except this in my Google search? I am not even sure when it was posted?
NutriPure Beverages Power Point 1 - 6:51pm
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
A contract between NutriPure and Chameleon Beverages. (Commerce, CA) is in its final stages of negotiations and is. scheduled to be signed within the ...
www.seatro.com/waterbeverage.pdf
Thank you for the feedback. If you hear anything let me know?
I will do the same! I also believe there will be a settlement as this is the statement from the lawyer in the last court date minutes!
Sorry for the mistake. I just got home and wanted to post what I found. Then I see directly after the post that appeared to reflect what I thought? I do not spend much time on the boards. So if you guys find something new keep me updated as I will also do the same!
Have to go....! One quick question?
Do you agree with what appears to be a possible end and solution in the next court hearing?
Click on Court website and calendar. Go to the date listed below:
Click on the (1) under continued. You will see under minutes (yes) Click on this and you will see the exact information I copied and pasted on the website. Not my writing but the courts!
I have no need for arrogant and no it all people. I will not post again and try to help if this is the quality of people on this board? I agree the spelling is poor from the court website! But don't insult people until you check things out?
05/12/2008 at 03:45 PM, MANDATORY RULE 16 CONFERENCE
(1)
Looks like a settlement 5/12/2008!
Minutes from last meeting:
N CHAMBERS: Mr. Kulwin advised this case is almost settled, noting there are a few technical issues which Mr. Bendavid will speak with his client about; and requested a Settlement Conference with the Court to enforce the settlement if the clients disagree. Mr. Bendavid stated the main terms are agreed upon. Upon Court's inquiry, counsel advised that a Jury has not been demanded. Following colloquy regarding a Settlement Conference, Mr. Bendavid requested to continue today's conference. COURT noted Mr.
Bendavid's clients are from out-of-state; and ORDERED, matter CONTINUED; participants to be present or mandatorily accessible by telephone.
If you read all the info on the court hearing update, you will see something is scheduled for the 21st?
04/21/2008 at 02:15 PM
MANDATORY RULE 16 CONFERENCE
Denton, Mark R.
All Parties