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I think it is irrelevant how they will handle it. If they still do 1 for every 1000. The % of allocation will remain the same amongst the investors and future payouts would still be the same.
If it's more than 0.01 it won't be much. At least in the beginning. Some people have thousands of GOTV shares and now they will be issuing more. I can't see them paying investors thousand dollar dividends just yet.
PR's to be released tomorrow for launch date and divis
Will the PR's post to this screen?
There is no need to worry. This stock is actually up in value at the moment. Since it is a 5:1 forward split. You have to take the value at the close of yesterday and divide by 5 to get the new pps.
Take the closing rate of yesterday and compare with the closing rate of today (times 5) to see if the pps went up or down.
If it closes at 0.002 that is equivalent to 0.01. You will have 5 times the shares so you can multiply whatever the pps times 5 to determine if there is profit or loss.
Most of us are in limbo right now waiting to get our shares before we can trade.
There might be a massive selling off point in which the pps could tank for a brief period. Something to keep in mind when deciding your entry point.
You may have more time than you expect to buy in.
I forget who usually does this but could someone send a list of updated links on ATNP. We are on the most active board list right now.
Most likely due to all the questions concerning the split and the divis.
That was the issuance of the first round of dividends.
I do not know how they will break out this round of dividends. All I know it is that whatever breakout they will use, it is based on the number of shares you have AFTER the split.
I don't have any free cash.
I assumed GOTV was private. What are they selling for on the open market then? What is the ticker symbol?
I don't think these are tradeable shares. They are issued within and only way to obtain them is to be invested in ATNP(D). If and when they issue a dividend we will be compensated through cash.
I just assume if they issue a 0.01 dividend per share lets say, then it will be muliplied by the the number of GOTV shares you have and will appear in your broker account as cash. You can do whatever you want with the money. That or maybe the broker will mail you a check.
When a buyout is proposed, they will allocate a % to each share and that will get paid in cash.
I am not a 100% sure, but that is how I think it will be handled.
CEO knows this, that is why he timing his dividend issuance and announcement of the launch post split to try and sustain these levels.
Will it work........that is another story.
You were issued one share of GOTVT for every thousand ATNP that you had. No payouts made in a cash dividend yet.
They will issue more GOTV shares this time around shortly. Took awhile to receive them in my account. These can not be traded on the open market and currently have no value.
If GOTV were to be bought out, you would get a percentage based on your shares, or if they turn a profit and decide to issue a quarterly dividend you should receive cash.
I thought about it more as I typed though, there will be a massive sell off onces our new shares are issued and if this continued to rise up until that point.
I think it does have potential to keep traveling up, but it won't happen over night. I would probably recommend taking profits while you can.
Hopefully I can sell asap at the top and buy back in 100% at the bottom. I think it will def be goign up to a penny in 2010 again.
I might not have the stones to hold on if it hits the penny. You never know if this could be the one that could break out though and start traveling towards the dime.
This is hopefully a product that we will be seeing very shortly on tv advertising with commericals and infomercials. This is also licensed internationally and may be more successful in other countries.
Lets stay positive here because we're in the same boat. We should hope that the new pps will be close to a penny when we get our shares :)
They are supposed to release news on the GOTV launch date. When investors see how low this pps is they will want to hop on board since there is plenty of profit room between here and the penny sale that they love.
Is the bridge comment a reference to something that I'm missing?
I was just trying to speculate why those random buys came in on Thursday. It was dead for awhile and all of a sudden a bunch came in at once. I was assuming it was more than one buyer. Couldn't figure out why.
With others, I notice sometimes a bunch of buys come in a day or sometimes hours before the PR is released. Was hoping it was the same case here. Partnered with the fact that it has been a few months, I thought the chances were good.
I am wrong though. Looking to jump ship at 0.001 on next pr if possible. Believe me, I want out of here and invest in things that fluctuate on a more day to day basis and are known for releasing PR's with progress.
When you say you hope they have a few more cycles in them, are you referring to more forward splits?
I've been here since Sept. I'm still not worried in the least. I plan to stick around for all of 2010 though. Not sure what the flippers are thinking.
3 PR's released today too and still not takers. We could see 0.000s for a brief period again. Only wish I was getting paid sooner than later to take advantage of that. By the time I get my next paycheck, all the key PR's will be out and should already be bouncing back.
Perhaps at this point in time people are holding off until post split before they buy in. Maybe they are worried there will be a period where it will drop and the best entry point for them would be later down the road. For those already invested, we are holding because of uncertainty and want to take advantage of the divis.
Trying to rationalize the situation. I remember before the last split, there was day it went up 240 percent at one point. Didn't see that happen this time around.
This stock is neck and neck with evfn. Both very disasterous after the reverse split. Which one is worse, I still can't decide.
I guess every forward split must be treated differently. Not looking like a solid finish here. Chart analysis did not help.
It could all be irrelevant. If it starts to move after the split with all the good PR's it doesn't really matter. I was just hoping it would hit the penny so I could try to flip it.
I'm holding and taking the divi's. Long term investment. It is going to be a great year for GOTV. PPS may not reflect it, but they are making huge progress this year with the business. Looking forward to their advertising campaign :)
I would hope we end Green !!! We are bouncing back and forth between positive and negative.
Only shot at getting the dividends is to hold through split or to buy back in on April 6th?
Smart strategy on their part to get people to hold.
I am a believer though, don't get me wrong. I think this company is still off everyone's radar. Only a couple of subpenny investors know about this. There could be potential for this to trade in the big leagues one day provided GOTV doesn't get bought out and goes private. The tv commercial ads will really get their name out there.
If PPS rises quicker than expected, I may even remove the penny sale post split and continue to hold to see if it could break out.
It's a discussion board, it is good to have all perspectives. Freedom of speech.
It is something to keep in mind when investing. They split like no one's business. Fortunately they have revived each time, but we should consider how many more times can they continue to forward split. How much more dilution can it handle.......
Thats a fact jack
Pretty much everyone who has stuck around long term kirby has profited from this.
I've made money since sept 09. I bought in just before the split when it was closer to its highest point and have made money. I made money throughout after the split being the "sand bagger".
Those were the harder times when they weren't releasing any PR or have a product. Still not sure why you are negative here.
Excellent question, can anyone answer?
I've got my sell order in at 0.0103. I am not sure if I will get there.
Yes it will take a dive, and maybe even start at some point today. This stock will be back though. Hoping for a flip play opportunity here.
Something is up with all those buys and no PR. I don't think those are Freddie's purchases either. I think a few people are hopping on board because of a leak in news.
With the right advertising, yes I think they could get that. No one knows about this stock or this company yet. Just a handful of speculative traders who deal with pinks.
check out its parent company ARIO. Flatlined at 0.0001 for ages. Glad I have not involved myself with either. Still like to check up on these for some reason...
I kept asking what that meant and would never get a response. I sold out over a month ago for my 0.0001.
I don't have the stomach to trade these speculative gold stocks. I tried this and NGHI and sold both for great % lost. Based on my research, this one wasn't even a real company. Had I read some of the articles about brownstone I would have never never never invested here. When I gamble with subpennies, I look to see that they at least have a product and keep investors informed.
Check back in here because I always wonder if anything would happen here.
Perfect name for the product. Advertising as a hangover cure and a great mixer for alcoholic beverages will be great for college campuses. Redbull was a great mixer, but provided nothing for hangovers. Not sure if this would either, but at least they are advertising that it does :)
I just wish I new about this stock a few years back and could have taken advantage of all their splits.
Seriously, those that rolled the dice on this and had held their shares would have been able to retire.
If you bought a million shares back when this was trading in the 0.000's for a couple of hundred bucks and held till now.
one million would have turned to 10 million on first split. 10 million would have turned to 100 million on second split. 100 million would turn to 500 million on this split.
If it makes it's way back to a penny that equates to 5 million dollars.
Is it possible to make that kind of cash with this company??? I feel like I must be missing something.
That is why in a sense I am glad it has not hit the penny yet because I will hold my shares through the split. If it does hit the penny on monday though I will try to flip it and increase my number of shares here.
I'm pro ATNP, but Kirby was right. Yesterday he called the sell point at 10:30am. If it continues to drop all the way to split then he may be a basher, but there are some truths that we just don't want to hear.
If this continues to drop pre and post split I will load up even more, because I think that this could hit the penny again before 2010 ends.
I highly doubt this will trade sideways though on the last trading day.
There is going to be big movement in one direction. Unless if we get a sharp rise and sharp fall or vice versa and net back to here again.....
Too unpredictable for me to make any trades unless if we hit the penny.
It may go down after the split, but after the dust clears (hopefully less than a months time) we should return to normal levels and hopefully a gradual increase as the news comes.
Of course I've been wrong about all my predictions here so forget what I just said. I'm amazed that made money here :)
Having fun anwering all the split questions over and over :) ?
Power hour back in the 8's ?!