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Seems some of us may need to take a ride and actually track old TS down so as to get some quantified answers. I realize some of you feel we shouldn't bother him as he has more important things to do but maybe he should hold an investor call and explain a little more to the investment community if he has nothing to hide and all is good heck it would help support the shareprice and get it away from the flippers and into hands of longs, All his current actions are doing is kicking the longs in the A$$ while helping Cornhole and the flippers. If that is what he wanted to do then I read him wromg and really made a mistake investing in this company. I also question the need for the 80% at this stage of the game, yes he needed it in the beginning but what purpose does it cover that 51% wouldn't cover. Just venting since I have not recieved one e-mail response except for the auto response and feel this is a real low class action on investor relations part. How many would be investors does that stupid e-mail response turn away for fear of never really hearing from the company.
DR G when TS announced that the legacy CD debt was less then 100K on 1\24 his statement even if prepared several days prior would have taken into consideration the increase reported by the TA on 1/24 which was an increase of 20M. Since then it has jumped 86,550,000 which I believe is the figure he was impling as being less then 100K in $ at the 001 rate. Today's increase should be the last otherwise his statement would be considered false on 1/24 opening him up to a serious can of worms which he is definitely smart enough to avoid. I say PR on Mon that legacy debt finished. Any additional share increases after today would in my book require some PR explanation release as to who, and why since it would be beyond the 100K mark from the 1/24 letter unless it is an increase of less then 14,450,000 which would still make his statement as truth.
Tomorrow another channel day and news on Monday IMHO
That was what i wanted someone to verify for me and that I didn't accidentally write down the wrong number.
Squeezer I just called prior to my post and Marcia's numbers where 962,941,917 for the OS which was no change from RPT's report for 3/3 but I thought the float she gave me 934,895,033 was different then what RPT got from them on 3/3 that is why I was asking someone else to confirm either I heard wrong or they adjusted the float since 3/3
Can someone else verify what I wrote down as the float as it seems to be different from the last report and I don't want to mis-represent by accident the count. seems I heard afloat of 934,895,033 and rpt heard on 3\3 a float of 937,893,033
Per Marcia
OS 962,941,917
Float 934,895,033
AP if what she said to Dr Graham was indeed correct wouldn't TS have to notify within 4 business days that it was indeed complete? If so then sometme before the end of 3\7 would be an expected notification PR since I would assume it to be considered significant news thus Shareholder's should be aware.
Thanks rpt
So looking at this list only really one incresae of 10m from the point of TS on 1/24 announcing less then 100G of legacey debt.
investor911
by any chance do you have the list of the oS changes and any T trades since 1/24
Jim correct me if I am wrong but I thought the C's converted 4 c's to 1 common or am I getting old. LOL
Soap don't know if have the answer but maybe redsox or someone else knows for sure.
If shares are held by the brokerage house that your account is with and you happen to put a GTC with a high sell price does that keep the house from lending those shares or is that an urban legend?
Soap, bbb, LB and AP wish I had the time to compare the actual basher ID's on the SWVC board against the below bid CD buys. Bet it would show several of the common bashers show up in force a day or so prior. Cornell working the last conversions to the upmost potential before they loose another cash cow. Hopefully I will never be introduced to someone at a function and have them inform me they work for CORNHOLE as I may need to sell some SWVC to pay bail money. LOL
that was what I was asking which was a smart move on TS's part unlike the the idiot that signed on the old legacy debt CD's. Shows TS is looking out for the SP and not his pockets
cdnkid this scenario you mention isn't there a clause in the newer CD's that states they being CORNHOLE or the CD owner can't short the stock. Don't believe TS or whomever worked on the orig CD's (legacey) had that clause.
I don't believe they are joined at the hip as closely as some of the multiple IHUB user id's used by some here to especially carry on conversations between their several ID's.
If you pay close attention to the written verbiage used along with key similiar word phrases it becomes quite apparant who they and their motives. Quite often you will see the same mis-spelled or grouped adj not commonly used by some.
I am not saying you are one just pointing out this issue on these boards.
So all newbies please keep that in mind.
Disclaimer: I am pro SWVC and have been from the beginning otherwise if I felt this company was not worth investing in why would I bother to visit this board. Granted some claim they are attempting to protect those unfortunate few that invest without DD. If every basher of a stock was really trying to help others then the energy and time spent by these so called good samariatans could be better used if spent fixing the corrupt ways of our politians with their pork projects which directly effects all Americans in their pocketbooks.
Texas very true statement banks don't want to be liable to selling inventory to collect on a default or bankruptcy, not only do they seldom collect what is owed but it costs manpower on their part to organize the selling off of the goods at a steep discount. And at this stage of the economy time is very valuable for the banking\financial industry which has suffered with the subprime crap
Just curious if that was one of the stipulations regarding the LOC, wouldn't that spark the run
cdnkid10 that was my 1st reactional thought this morning maybe we will hear the great news about the legacy debt later today or after the bell tonight.
AP another thought could Wells fargo have been waiting for proof that the legacey CD's are done before signings the LOC? TS would have 4 days to release the CD being done but could have shown proof to Wells if it was a stip on Well's part. Just thinking out loud.
AP when was the last time SWVC released news prior to the open? Maybe more coming at the 10:25am? Seems that was the usual release time or am I forgetting
Well if TS pulled something like that I would hope he have eyes in the back of his head or quickly fly to Thailand like that bum Cavasin from ACMG. If he stayed in the states I think life would not be all that grand for him.
I say he is not that sort of person so that is why I have an interest in SWVC.
Chunky-g I feel the same way why give the fence sitters and such the opportunity to get cheap by posting news during trading hours, make them pay dearly for shares.
RPT whats to say that the float isn't being locked up by using SVC to purchase at these prices along with what the longs are taking down off the table.
that comment perked my interest
Can't be much longer before we take off, float has to be pretty well locked up
so then 3m less to convert
WSF
Goes to show how far the bashers will go with their agenda's. I agree if you read all his posts it will clearly show he is not the typical scam pinky CEO but is one of the few honest in pinkyland.
so between us we have tied upover 25% of the float can't figure where these shares keep coming from
Soapy for the record our group is tapped out after today been buying SWVC constantly and have increased our holding by over 30% from my last mention of shares in the e-mail. All I know is we have taken quite a bit off the table that could be available.
Edit: 11% held by 30 locked up tight and not for sale, Group can't buy until 3rd of march.
Red do you feel that is the end or just a little closer? How close do feel the final is?
Abby whats your thoughts on this puppy? TIA
Soapy will be buying more SWVC today in 100K lots along with ours from the group, unfortunately wasn't able to take advantage of the low prices yesterday because of prior committments.
See Nello is barking at another one, interesting to watch the prices on those he mentions, if you can get in early and not be greedy an get out before he dumps you stand to make some serious gains.
OT:
You're An EXTREME Redneck When...
1. You let your 14-year-old daughter smoke at the dinner table in front of her kids.
2. The Blue Book value of your truck goes up and down depending on how much gas is in it.
3. You've been married three times and still have the same in-laws.
4. You think a woman who is "out of your league" bowls on a different night.
5. You wonder how service stations keep their rest-rooms so clean.
6. Someone in your family died right after saying, "Hey , guys, watch this."
7. You think Dom Paragon is a Mafia leader.
8. Your wife's hairdo was once ruined by a ceiling fan.
9. Your junior prom offered day care.
10. You think the last words of the "Star-Spangled Banner" are "Gentlemen, start your engines."
11. You lit a match in the bathroom and your house exploded right off its wheels.
12. The Halloween pumpkin on your porch has more teeth than your spouse.
13. You have to go outside to get something from the fridge.
14. One of your kids was born on a pool table.
15. You need one more hole punched in your card to get a freebie at the House of Tattoos.
16. You can't get married to your sweetheart because there's a law against it.
17. You think loading the dishwasher means getting your wife drunk.
OT:
A young guy from Minnesota moves to Florida and goes to a big "everything
under one roof" department store looking for a job.
The Manager says, "Do you have any sales experience?" The kid says, "Yeah. I
was a salesman back in Minnesota.
Well, the boss liked the kid and gave him the job. "You start tomorrow. I'll
come down after we close and see how you did."
His first day on the job was rough, but he got through it. After the store
was locked up, the boss came down.
"How many customers bought something from you today?"
The kid says, "One."
The boss says, "Just one? Our sales people average 20 to 30 customers a day.
How much was the sale for?"
The kid says "$101,237.65"
The boss says "$101,237.65? What the heck did you sell?" The kid says,
"First, I sold him a small fishhook.
Then I sold him a medium fishhook.
Then I sold him a larger fishhook.
Then I sold him a new fishing rod.
Then I sold him a complete tackle set.
Then I asked him where he was going fishing and he said down the coast.
So I told him he was going to need a boat, so we went down to the boat
department and I sold him a twin engine Chris Craft.
Then he said he didn't think his Honda Civic would pull it, so I took him
down to the automotive department and sold him that 4x4 Expedition.
The boss said, "A guy came in here to buy a fishhook, and you sold him a
BOAT AND a TRUCK???!!!"
The kid said, "No, the guy came in here to buy tampons for his wife, and I
said, 'Dude, your weekend's shot, you should go fishing.' "
You want graphs then saunter over to MrBz board and asked then nicely
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=10118
Or if you come across redsoxnumb1 he is very good at the graphs
but someone had to buy them, maybe someone that see's the future once the dumping is done or wants to lower their average somemore.
In your opinion how many shares do you figure they could buy?
MBL got out of NUBV today quick flip searching for another to park in for a couple days.
I believe the block is way above the 100M, Soapy knows what I am talking about.
Many are still here no need to post just lurk and buy.