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I had a plan to load on Monday at .0014 but that proved to be too pessimistic. Expect .007 by end of March.
50 DMA is at .0026 so we closed above it. Bullish.
Probably a great price target for a year from now. Depends on their ability to generate growing revenue and profitability.
Roughly 135m and .052
Current financial info suggests a fair market cap of $28.5m. Nice to see what happens after dilution ends.
Mine returned to fair market cap value today based on my modified DCF formula. Same exact method calls for 3.5 cents for $vpor. Be patient. These are real companies that must return to fair market value. Early news next week bumps us up to .004-.005 range...
Dilution is done!!! Go go go
Nice... Get out around .38 - that's fair value.
How many shares outstanding here?
Discounted Cash Flow Analysis of VPOR
http://www.investopedia.com/university/dcf/dcf4.asp
Ever heard of the show Shark Tank?
I have been tracking this company for a while now, and am not in this for a quick flip. While it's a penny stock, The Vapor Group is a real company and I look at it as more of a venture capital investment at this point. Need to think about this company in terms of if you were going to buy them out. Pretend you're a big tobacco company. The dilution will be over soon, and it is important to understand what the company is actually worth.
Revenue is increasing by roughly 20% per quarter, and costs are stabilizing, indicating the fact that profitability is within reach. Profitability indicates sustainability, and the CEO indicated for the time being that outside financing is no longer necessary.
Assuming they stay on the same revenue growth trajectory (which is conservative, given the explosive industry they operate within), I expect Q4 revenues to be 1.57 million dollars. It will be a coin toss as to whether they are in the black, but that is normal with a start-up venture. With a figure like this, I project total revenue in 2015 to be 10.1 million dollars with profitability at the bottom line.
Using a 12% discount rate, DCF Analysis suggests that this company is worth (10.1M / .12 ) = $84.2M. After conversion of notes ends, I expect the market cap to adjust towards this figure.
I will revisit this analysis each quarter.
Educated comments and thoughts are welcome.
Catalysts:
PPS should begin to ascend toward fair value without news once the artificial selling subsides. Expecting about 2.8B shares once complete, which supports a price at .03 minimum with current audited financial information. 100 dma is at .0068 for the time being and this will be the first major resistance over the next month.
Likely to see 1-2 development PRs in March.
Expecting annual report by March 31.
Expecting debt clearance by second week of April.
Expecting Q1 fins with additional revenue stream (VGR Media) included by May 15.
If all signs point to growth, it's going I be a beautiful year.
Best current valuation of shares: .0341.
Good luck!
Time to play through the 3s
Toxic debt is basically a loan that can either be paid back by the company or converted into free trading shares. It's usually a combination of payments and conversion. However the lender makes more money from the shares usually so they short the stock to force an early conversion... That's what happened when this Stock went under a penny- it allowed the lender to start converting before maturity. It was in the contract the whole time. They shorted it so they could sell and then told the company they couldn't make any large payments. This is because they get the shares at .001 and can sell at whatever market price is. Right now they're essentially tripling their money. That's better than the 8-30% interest they would get from the original note. Get it? Also if they allow it to go higher then they make more money so they may not choose to sell everything right now. Hence the reason the dilution MM BMAK is hanging back at .0035.
The toxicity usually comes from the fact that the share price gets diluted when the debt is cashed out. The price has been brought down due to the sale of couple million dollars worth of shares. There is not that much buying so the price just tanks. The lender is selling because they want their money, not because the company is bad. Therefore we have an artificially low price. The CEO has announced that the debt is almost gone, and that they don't need that type of financing anymore. We should expect some dilution over the next month as the debt dries up, but should also expect demand for shares to increase with this knowledge.
I can't really see the price getting lower than this, and based on historic revenue and estimated share count of 2.6B we could make a run to three to four cents very soon.
My sell target is currently at 3.6 cents and I'll hold another 6 months to get it.
.03 is still a realistic price... Just look at HEMP. Same share structure
Definitely. I think Q1 will be the tell all...
What's your cost average these days link?
I think it's cool that products are being sighted in the northeast. Can't wait to see what kind of sales figures they put out.
It's a company that is growing in a pre- booming industry. They are becoming debt free and sustainable on their own cash flow. Price per share is currently artificially held down by a few large sellers cashing in their shares from a loan agreement. At this price level, it's a buy.
Catalysts:
PPS should begin to ascend toward fair value without news once the artificial selling subsides. Expecting about 2.8B shares once complete, which supports a price at .03 minimum with current audited financial information. 100 dma is at .0073 for the time being and this will be the first major resistance over the next month.
Likely to see 1-2 development PRs in March.
Expecting annual report by March 31.
Expecting debt clearance by second week of April.
Expecting Q1 fins with additional revenue stream (VGR Media) included by May 15.
If all signs point to growth, it's going I be a beautiful year.
Looking good guys!!! Looking for .004 by end of week.
If the .003 wall falls we close at .0035
Slow motion battle at the 50 DMA. Holding up well so far. This might be the new .001 folks.
Nice to see that the 50 DMA has increased - thinking we get to the 100 before the debt PR next month
I'm ready to make 1200%. Next stop is .004 before pullback.
Multiple forms of analysis based on real revenue, gross profit and growth rates value shares at 3.7 cents each. That's 1200% upside from here.
The train is leaving the station. Don't get left behind.
Projecting $10m over the next 4 quarters - average quarterly revenue growth is 20%.
Pending Q4 revs this stock is worth .03-.04 per share.
Power hour coming....
Thinking next stop is .004 folks... Buckle up.
Discounted Cash Flow Analysis of VPOR
http://www.investopedia.com/university/dcf/dcf4.asp
I have been tracking this company for a while now, and am not in this for a quick flip. While it's a penny stock, The Vapor Group is a real company and I look at it as more of a venture capital investment at this point. The dilution will be over soon, and it is important to understand what the company is actually worth.
Revenue is increasing by roughly 20% per quarter, and costs are stabilizing, indicating the fact that profitability is within reach. Profitability indicates sustainability, and the CEO indicated for the time being that outside financing is no longer necessary.
Assuming they stay on the same revenue growth trajectory (which is conservative, given the explosive industry they operate within), I expect Q4 revenues to be 1.57 million dollars. It will be a coin toss as to whether they are in the black, but that is normal with a start-up venture. With a figure like this, I project total revenue in 2015 to be 10.1 million dollars with profitability at the bottom line.
Using a 12% discount rate, DCF Analysis suggests that this company is worth (10.1M / .12 ) = $84.2M. After conversion of promissory notes ends, I expect the market cap to adjust towards this figure.
I will revisit this analysis each quarter.
Educated comments and thoughts are welcome.
Similar valuation method puts little brother $m1ne at $28.5m and look where it popped to after debt announcement. Patience required.
Discounted Cash Flow Analysis of VPOR
http://www.investopedia.com/university/dcf/dcf4.asp
I have been tracking this company for a while now, and am not in this for a quick flip. While it's a penny stock, The Vapor Group is a real company and I look at it as more of a venture capital investment at this point. The dilution will be over soon, and it is important to understand what the company is actually worth.
Revenue is increasing by roughly 20% per quarter, and costs are stabilizing, indicating the fact that profitability is within reach. Profitability indicates sustainability, and the CEO indicated for the time being that outside financing is no longer necessary.
Assuming they stay on the same revenue growth trajectory (which is conservative, given the explosive industry they operate within), I expect Q4 revenues to be 1.57 million dollars. It will be a coin toss as to whether they are in the black, but that is normal with a start-up venture. With a figure like this, I project total revenue in 2015 to be 10.1 million dollars with profitability at the bottom line.
Using a 12% discount rate, DCF Analysis suggests that this company is worth (10.1M / .12 ) = $84.2M. After conversion of promissory notes ends, I expect the market cap to adjust towards this figure.
I will revisit this analysis each quarter.
Educated comments and thoughts are welcome.
Fair value today is around .03, unfortunately. Dilution is a nasty thing. At 270m shares outstanding fair value was .25. Everything above that was third party pump and dump.
Based on current sales figures, a fair market cap is $29m. Just over a penny is a fair PPS.
CEO said debt free or close to it by beginning of April. Expect 2.5-3B shares to be OS. Should start the sustained move upward about 3 wks from now anticipating debt PR and fins.
Yes. Q4 and update on share structure allow a better picture, but I think a share is worth at least .02.
+10 but cloudy. No snow here...
Wise guy here !!! Hope you're well.
.12 is the discount rate aka 12%
Discounted Cash Flow Analysis of VPOR
http://www.investopedia.com/university/dcf/dcf4.asp
I have been tracking this company for a while now, and am not in this for a quick flip. While it's a penny stock, The Vapor Group is a real company and I look at it as more of a venture capital investment at this point. The dilution will be over soon, and it is important to understand what the company is actually worth.
Revenue is increasing by roughly 20% per quarter, and costs are stabilizing, indicating the fact that profitability is within reach. Profitability indicates sustainability, and the CEO indicated for the time being that outside financing is no longer necessary.
Assuming they stay on the same revenue growth trajectory (which is conservative, given the explosive industry they operate within), I expect Q4 revenues to be 1.57 million dollars. It will be a coin toss as to whether they are in the black, but that is normal with a start-up venture. With a figure like this, I project total revenue in 2015 to be 10.1 million dollars with profitability at the bottom line.
Using a 12% discount rate, DCF Analysis suggests that this company is worth (10.1M / .12 ) = $84.2M. After conversion of promissory notes ends, I expect the market cap to adjust towards this figure.
I will revisit this analysis each quarter.
Educated comments and thoughts are welcome.