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Last I heard or read, May? That will be one sign to pay attention to. I personally would give it a bit of leeway, or reasonable explanation if late. Dont think its all cut and dry over there vs here for want of better words.
Lol, good one man.
I think your right, like what Im seeing. Dont care if PPS drops a bit while positioning(IMO)is going on. Its all cool.
I personally think it a watcher. Some questionable news late last week and holding well so... I think we are not the only ones waiting to see what happens.
Am glad there some volume!
I think your partially right, it may drop but think it will be a watcher as one to play in near future. IMO.
Thnik they have a great facebook app/idea.
It's been of interest to quite a few for a couple weeks now. I'm sure there's plenty of reading at sidelines.
Looking forward to this coming week!
There can be a floor on pps that can be put in place, if in agreement. Or so AGS says I think I read.
Here's AGS's PR explaining some advantages :
http://www.prlog.org/11758781-reserve-equity-financing-ref-alternative-financing-to-fuel-growth-for-small-and-mid-cap-companies.html
PR of course but hints at this "Floor" thing.
Cant prove you wrong either, like you said we dont know details of agreement.
Ok I got ya now, no 8k with exhibits etc..
Well, not that this is applicable to CAGR potential agreement but here,s what looks like a recent doc regarding REF funding and AGS Capitol agreement with another co.
http://www.faqs.org/sec-filings/120323/Smart-Kids-Group-Inc_8-K/ex10_1.htm
My guess is something similar in works between AGS and CAGR is being hashed out.
Its possible that this REF type of funding could have a Floor Price feature also? That seems it would be a good thing if so.
May not be applicable to this "Toxic/non-Toxic" thing, one of the hits searching for toxic/non toxic funding opinions.
http://www.angel-and-venture-capital-guide.com/death-spiral.html
"A good solution for most companies is to find a long term funding source for NON-DEATH SPIRAL FUNDING such as Equity Line Funding. This funding structure is being used by many listed companies all over the world on various stock exchanges. Equity Line Funding is used to fund large and small companies over a period of several years. It allows the company to use a floor price feature to protect its current shareholders, yet at the same time provide necessary funding to the company to aid in its overall expansion and growth plans."
It is a bummer we dont get to see everything a company signs up for. Guess that would make it to easy.
I would think shareholders want to know if AGS could take it on the chin if CAGR doesnt work out. I guess what I should of asked: Is there a downside for AGS if CAGR ends up going south?
If there is potential downside for AGS, my next question would be:
Why would they get involved with CAGR?
Would AGS be in a win/win regardless of how CAGR deals with this in your opinion?
REF seems much more attractive for CAGR.
Gotta say I like the fact the waters wont get muddied by possible interference from an outside source, and that CAGR will be left to thier use own discretion for better or worse.
From your experience, can investors typically see details of these types of agreements in financial filings(in this case future filings)?
Thank you appreciate the info!
Speaking of DD, is Marble Arch Research USA as mentioned in cagr news same as:
http://www.marblearchresearch.com/.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=107573628
I went to: http://www.marblearchusa.com/ mentioned in news release and not a lot there; in fact seemed no info.
I'd certainly agree with that. Diversify would be wise regardless of china rocks or not.
That Gordon Chang fellow also seems to post
Weekly on a blog at Forbes. Controversial fellow he is!
http://blogs.forbes.com/gordonchang/
MDCE and Short/Reg Sho etc..
I was curious what some of you make of data at:
http://www.dailyshortvolume.com/CompanyData/CompanyData.aspx?Ticker=MDCE
Can I assume shorters dont mess around much with this one or am I mis-interpreting that data? Just curious, newb.
Does REF basically = EF?
I was reading a few messages of some back and forth on the REF subject. Are some of the advantages/disadvantes from this website basically apply to REF? :
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/detail?itemId=1073789573&r.i=1075081703&r.l1=1074404796&r.l2=1074404799&r.l3=1073864776&r.s=sc&r.t=RESOURCES&type=RESOURCES
"Advantages and disadvantages of equity finance
Equity finance can sometimes be more appropriate than other sources of finance, eg bank loans, but it can place different demands on you and your business.
The main advantages of equity finance are:
The funding is committed to your business and your intended projects. Investors only realise their investment if the business is doing well, eg through stock market flotation or a sale to new investors.
You will not have to keep up with costs of servicing bank loans or debt finance, allowing you to use the capital for business activities.
Outside investors expect the business to deliver value, helping you explore and execute growth ideas.
The right business angels and venture capitalists can bring valuable skills, contacts and experience to your business. They can also assist with strategy and key decision making.
In common with you, investors have a vested interest in the business' success, ie its growth, profitability and increase in value.
Investors are often prepared to provide follow-up funding as the business grows.
The principal disadvantages of equity finance are:
Raising equity finance is demanding, costly and time consuming, and may take management focus away from the core business activities.
Potential investors will seek comprehensive background information on you and your business. They will look carefully at past results and forecasts and will probe the management team. Many businesses find this process useful, regardless of whether or not any fundraising is successful.
Depending on the investor, you will lose a certain amount of your power to make management decisions.
You will have to invest management time to provide regular information for the investor to monitor.
At first you will have a smaller share in the business - both as a percentage and in absolute monetary terms. However, your reduced share may become worth a lot more in absolute monetary terms if the investment leads to your business becoming more successful.
There can be legal and regulatory issues to comply with when raising finance, eg when promoting investments."
Some recent sources for China Wine Market News/opinions
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-03/29/content_14938714.htm
http://www.wines-info.com/En/html/2012/3/189-43908.html
(looks like it might be govt site?)
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=2898
Lot of coverage on wine market in China
http://www.wineintelligence.com/category/downloads/newsletters/
Not sure if its biased one way or another but some of their takes on the markets overseas are interesting and perhaps useful? If it is biased, good to know what competition is thinking.
Who will be the winners in China’s ‘Wine Market 2.0
http://www.wineintelligence.com/wp-content/uploads/Wine-Intelligence-Adhesion-group-White-paper-21-2-2012.pdf
Very Intresting where we could go.
Short-Long Ratio. ASYI
Out of curiosity, I was wondering what folks make of the increase of short to long ratio this week.
I put in asyi ticker symbol at:
http://www.dailyshortvolume.com/CompanyData/CompanyData.aspx?Ticker=&MarketDate=03/29/2012
Is the high ratio for yesturday possibly an indication that shorts might take it in the shorts assuming ASYI pps holds or rises in near future? Just trying to learn.
I was messing with you man BTW last comment.
Still greatly appreciate your info on shorting etc..SEc stuff. I think you have some legit comments but the potential seems to be here; either way i didnt go whole hog and bet the farm(Some caution based on your and others comments).
Bummer, guess I got trapped today. Bought a little bit.
Right on beamin1!
I think your right, next time.
Looks like it might be late?
Will do!
This group is fantastic, so many opinions and most seemed based on more than just talk. Quite valuable to see all takes on the matter. Am personally checking out what everyone says
I had some misunderstanding of dilution/shorting untill coming here, plan on throwing questions out there about cagr re this question
Hope I made a decent call buying averaging in today
Thursdays Reg Sho
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2 13's 4 11's
Theres like 15 mms at least on both sides, at TDA L2
Id be happy to if I knew how. Ill try.
Seems like a lot of MM,s on this today.
Or is that my imagination.
Potential problems with Austrailia's wine harvests.
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/02/27/3439016.htm
So does this potentially help California's wine industry in general to take a lead in overseas markets? I read that Chile and Austrailia were currently the biggest suppliers to China's wine needs.
That is one LONG article(Counterfit Shares) I found. Im still reading with facination as we speak. I thought over-booking flightsby airlines was low....
Right on, it all starting to become clear but will take time!
Its honest answers and patience shown to us newbs by folks like you and the funny Gregg the Greek that sure are helpful and appreciated.
Im still lol'ing in the Mike Jordon thing!
Thats amazing.
I had asked how to interprit the reg sho files earlier today on another board and they kinda explained some of what you did. Its just "air share" term wasnt used.
Thanks man
Haaa, quick one ya got me. LMAO
So, is this like "fail(ed) to deliver" when folks chat about shorting in general? If so, I think I got it.
appreciate the reply
Excuse my ignorance please Im kinda new to this, but what is air share count?