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wbmw - I can live with that, at least until it becomes a real issue again, like it was with with the JFTC, and may again become with the EU. But in the absence of actual news to discuss, which could have a concrete impact on the stock and company's progress, it's a fruitless pursuit.
Paul
chipguy - Just out of curiosity, what was the last AMD-based PC you bought?
Paul
Hmmmm............
7 EM64T P4s to be cancelled?
http://www.digit-life.com/news.html?116468#116468
A64 chipset comparison review -
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/a64-chipsets/index.x?pg=1
wbmw, Dan3 - It sure would be fascinating. Perhaps someone ought to request such a review from one of the big review sites.
Paul
Re: Anand WinHEC article hybrid HD section.
Anyone know about what the throughputs of AMD's Mirrorbit and ORNAND(is that right?) are?
Paul
Anandtech - WinHEC 2005 - Keynote and Day 1
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2399
Review of tempting NF4 Shuttle SN25P. :)
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzYxLDc=
Keith - re: Tech Report - Thanks for the heads up; I checked too early to catch it, apparently.
Paul
Keith - That's the kind of intro you like to see. And if IBM demonstrates seriousness re: blades today, it'll make it even better.
Paul
Keith - I hope it's silicon, not paper.
Paul
SilentBob - The market is kindly offering us an opportunity to indulge in some AMD. :)
Paul
Rink - What c't(Stiller) is saying is that K9 is K8 quad core ; if I'm understanding correctly, that is.
Keith - re: Intel 65nm great things - assuming it actually happens that way, of course.
Paul
cd - re: "Other than for gaming, what consumer has needed anything over a basic low-end CPU and graphics card for the past few years?
"
Serious crunchers. (Grid, F@H, SETI, et al) For CPUs, at least.
chipguy - no, it doesn't mean swamp. Kind of the opposite. Try dictionary.com!
Zathras - Care to expand a little?
imho - slow rate of change in server market. It'll come. Flash seems to turn on a dime, on the other hand. And consumer CPU to a lesser degree.
smooth20 - re: VIIV -
You mean Virtual Intensive IntraVenous, which is what it'll need to keep alive competing with Opteron/A64? ;)
wbmw - DDR3 is already becoming pervasive in video cards, and while that's no guarantee it'll do the same in system memory, if there are sufficient advantages to both the user and the manufacturer(which I seem to recall reading there could be), the switch may take place sooner rather than later.
Paul
chipguy - You know very well that clockspeed is not the only performance metric, nor was it necessarily the primary one AMD was concerned with when they made the decision to go with SOI.
Paul
wbmw - With the advances of DDR3, DDR2 may turn into a very short-lived tech, like EDO. Maybe not, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Paul
wbmw - I didn't limit it to the PC market. Apple uses it and Cisco, just to name a couple. Forgotten? Hardly.
Paul
jokerman - No, but where's Rambus system memory penetration today?
wbmw - I'm surprised you so readily discount Hypertransport(both coherent and non-coherent), which was pervasive long before Intel's PCI Express. Perhaps not as "high-profile", but what do you expect,with Intel's marketing machine behind it?
Paul
chipguy - I wouldn't be surprised if the answer to that question were more complicated than you make it out to be.
Paul
alan81 - It is probably their best opportunity yet to capitalize on their lead. Regrettably, I agree AMD has done poorly in capitalizing on their opportunities. But with better performance, equal or better reliability, simpler-to-design systems, and lower power consumption, DC is looking very promising.
Paul
aleph0 - Usually, such things will be included in the BIOS update's notes. At least, from the better MB makers.
Paul
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chipdesigner - Did you even bother to read Keith's post?
Nothing gloomy about it.
Skywriting -> smoke -> vapor - get it?
Paul
chipguy - That's really irrelevant. AMD can do very well without selling a thing to Dell, if they handle it right. They should stop wasting effort on Dell and work on the folks who have demonstrated real interest and effort.
Not all sales are necessarily good for the company. Let Dell come to them with an offer that works for AMD when they feel the need. If never - fine - just focus on those who are doing the heavy lifting with you, not the one that wants to waltz in and skim off the cream.
Paul
chipguy - Cute. Just because I don't worship at the Intel/Itanium/Centrino altar I'm a droid?
What a hoot!
Paul
Jerry R - Did it ever occur to you(or Ed?) that AMD didn't mean Intel's dominance of AMD, but their dominance of the market / their customers? Once AMD is a viable alternative, Intel's big stick doesn't wield the same power.
Paul
wbmw - Wrong. "Turion", just like Centrino, in many ways, is a marketing ploy, though AMD is granting more flexibility to the OEMs.
Perhaps the CPU is not as substantial a change as Banias was, but who cares? If it can successfully compete with Centrino, that's all that matters.
And all the denials in the world from you and chipguy will not matter a hill of beans if the OEMs like it!
Paul
chipguy - And since that almost doubled the server chip market share from the year before, I'm hoping that will be at least a short term annual trend(since obviously doubling annually can't continue for too many years :) ).
chipguy - Isn't denial wonderful?
wbmw, chipguy - And you think Asus and Acer will intro models based on vapor? Sorry, not likely. And that doesn't even include the tier-1s that will be intro'ing them.
Paul
chipguy - Riiiiiiiight!
Paul
Best indication I've seen yet of Intel's threat level from Turion 64.
Pentium M price cuts.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20050314A7039.html