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Here is the Wal-Mart Corporate info.
Wal-Mart Corporate Office | Headquarters
702 SW 8th St. Bentonville, AR 72716 (479)273-4000
Manrod, somewhere I heard a patent was pending. Can anyone verify this?
One problem we may be confronted with is can ZVTK be selective where they want to place their bulbs, or are they obligated to place they bulbs in all Wal-Mart stores. Wal-Mart distribution locations are situated in many states which would make it very difficult to confirm the agreement if ZVTK can be selective as to where the bulbs would be sold. Just a thought.
That's would be great. However, we need to focus on the two retailers that Annette said would be stocking the bulb.
Maybe some people here have a friend that works for CVS or Wal-Mart that would inquire about the status of stocking these bulbs. May be easier for an employee to get information.
The reason confirmation is needed at this point is that if it's determined no agreement has been reached with either retailer, that would indicate no orders have been placed by ZVTK. In that case the Aug/Sept timeframe mentioned by Annette would not be possible. If we can confirm agreements were in fact made that would be huge, and that the bulbs have in fact been ordered to meet given timeframes. My thought is CVS and Wal-Mart have the knowledge, at this point, if there is such an agreement or not.
Corporate Office would be good, or their main distribution center.
climbingup, when did you check with Wal-Mart? Did they say who they were checking with?
Anold, we can only speculate. Posters have call CVS and Wal-Mart in the past, why not call them now. Maybe at this point they have a list of new incoming products.
One thing I don't understand. Why would the company keep this a secret if that's actually what is occurring? What's wrong with a PR stating that agreements have been made and bulbs are on order with delivery expected in the Aug/Sept timeframe? I believe investors have the right to know what's going on behind the scenes in place of the continuous speculations.
Anold, I'm also hoping that the spread she gave in the retailing timeframe was to allow for delivery of enough bulbs to stock the shelves. In other words the bulbs have been ordered, in which case would make everyone happy. We'll see.
Yep, I sure hope so. Would be good for the investors as well as the company.
This quote is from Annette on 4 Jun during an interview.
"available now online and in CVS and Walmart retail stores later this year". Most recently it was posted she now says "will be early Aug or late Sept. IMHO she's now implying there is an agreement with these two retailers and funds are available to stock those shelves. This is no longer speculation, as I see it, she made a factural statement here. What's most important for me at this point is that the stated timeframes remain in force. Any flip flopping on these dates, i.e., moving the dates to a later timeframe could mean, IMHO, serious funding problems. As free_man_in_paris said in an earlier post, "there will be no more dilution as the company has reached its limited at approx 5B A/S". I doubt a R/S would be practical as the current pps is at 0.0018. For me, if the company changed their retail stocking timeframe to later months I would consider that to be a "red flag" that shouldn't be ignored.
We're giving our friend way to much attention. Ignore him and he'll go back to this default MB.
$3 will give you a little gas to take the date to lookout mountain for the evening. Now, that's a cheap date. :)
I can't see the mm's filling a buy order for 0.0017, they make their money on the spreads.
sespears, naw, not manipulation. Propably some young dude selling his shares to take his girlfriend out tonight. :)
Arnold, if true they should issue a PR stating that an agreement has been reached. That would certainly lift investor confidence in the company, as well as enhancing their growth potential.
If she said "we WILL be in CVS and Wal-Mart early Aug, late Sept" appears to me she's implying ZVTK already has agreement with these two retailers. The word WILL is not a forward statement.
Arnold, interesting. Now all we need to do is fit 1M cars into a 100 sq ft space to test that theory. :)
free_man, agree. With that many additional shares out the ask side will move that much slower now. Will need consistant heavy buy volume to move it. As witnessed right now, there has been sizable buys but the ask hasn't moved. Unfortunately that doesn't apply to the bid side.
We just need to hope that bright light at the end of the tunnel is not a freight train coming at us. :)
Arnold, not only increase the pps but also move the ask side at a faster rate.
barb, no reason to stop posting. Some investors are frustrated, including myself, that ZVTK continues to leak down. Atitudes will change once the pps gains upward momentum.
lol, I respect a honest man.
Dilution is brought up a lot in posts. So what would it cost to buy back the 3+B A/S? Lets say $6M to buy back the A/S. $6M in todays market is pocket change, granted for a small company it's a nice chunk of change. If ZVTK is able to get 3-4 retailers to carry the bulbs in the near future it would make that $6M seem relatively small. Although I do not know ZVTK's financial position, I do believe funding for the amount of bulbs needed to supply retailers may be the challenge confronting the company. What we do know is that the bulb works as advertised. Most retailers here in the U.S. do not carry such a bulb. With that said, I'm puzzled why a partner hasn't stepped forward. I would think risk vs reward would certainly be in their favor, providing a partner could assist ZVTK in getting their bulbs to market within a short period of time. If no partner is coming forth then further dilution and possibly a r/s (if possible) may be under consideration. If a reverse split is possible it would have to be huge at the current pps. Then again, maybe they have investors in the wings ready to step forward if needed. The point is ZVTK needs to strike sooner than later while the iron is hot before competitors begin marketing such a bulb.
Arnold, the news is what started the decline. The investors want more meaningful news besides continued advertising.
Muskett50, believe in their lastest financial report is when they changed it from May to Sept. I am positive the company initially gave a May timeframe. I also believe "sometime this year" was taken from one of Annette's articles. To be honest I do not recall the August timeframe mentioned, may have missed that one. Also, IMHO the change from May to Sept may have been, in part, the reason for the pps decline. Anyone else have an input to this? If I'm wrong I certainly need to know.
Vienna, disagree. This is a real company with real dreams for obvious reasons. The company simply needs to let investors know their intentions on retail marketing of the product. I'm sure they know, but they need to give some clue regarding those intentions to build investor confidence. The company has spent a considerable amount of money in advertising. I'm confident this was not done just to play games with the investors, as that simply would not be logical or make much sense. I hate waiting games just as any other investor. I believe patience is crucial at this point.
yep, agree. Right now we have a sandwich with lettace and tomato, but "WHERES THE BEEF!" :)
That will be nice when it happens. IMHO as an investor in ZVTK the company said in retail stores in May, then Sept, now "sometime this year". This leaves investors in the dark as to what exactly is going on. Granted ZVTK probably learned a lesson when they did put the bulb in a retail store, but had to pull it due to limited sales. I really don't know how much advertising they did at that time, or what the problem was. Lets just hope they don't wait to long and give the competition time to catch up.
Advertising is a great vehicle for pushing a product. Problem is people will be looking for this product in retail stores only to find they're not available. How many months has the company been advertising now? IMHO it's time to get the bulb into retail stores. As the news doesn't appear to have much affect on the pps or volume, investors probably feel the same way, get on with the show.
News
Ok, Thank You.
Arnold, the most current I see is 4 Jun. Is that the one?
lol, are you people feeding off each others hype? Tonight it's like an aquarium full of sharks during feeding time. Did I miss something after close today?
Agree free_man. The company had to eat crow when they said the bulbs would be at retailers in May. Instead they had to back peddle and change it to Sept. Investors didn't like that.
Because no official confirmation has been seen. Only speculation at this point. Believe me, the news would have probably leaked if it was a done deal. The has been no evidence thus far, therefore the pps remains where it's at. We'll just have to wait and see how this unfolds.
IF Wal-Mart and CVS was under contract with ZVTK why would the pps be 0.0019 - 0.0020? If the above was a fact investors would be driving the stock up. That hasn't happened. Why?
free-man, At this point agree with your assessment until we get some news.